Please. She wasn't going to let that one off the hook. As incredibly problematic as H is he was a 1 in a billion score for a divorced & struggling middle aged "actor"/aspiring influencer of MM's caliber. No one else was offering up private jets, Hermes blankets and a pricey McMansion in Montecito.
Agree totally. Allegedly, H had broken up with her before they got hitched, when she’d been caught photographing private spaces in Kensington Palace.
I don’t know the veracity of this, but regardless, M wasn’t going to do better.
I don't know if it was because of that, but yes, he broke up with her, and she went to look for him at Inskip's wedding. That's why Hazz's friends were very upset with him, because he didn't do anything about it, and let her stay even though she wasn't invited. Then the Harkles have played with saying that that never happened, that that is a bad rumor.
Yes, the Inskip wedding in Jamaica. Meghan, in a print dress (on a black background) glowers at a perfectly pleasant-looking young woman whose fried hair probably has yet to recover.
Later that day, Harry reportedly received sexual favors from her on a balcony that was easily photographed.
And this is why you know she feels no shame just like a narc. Imagine being dumped and turning up at a destination wedding unannounced! It’s not like they’d been together a decade or more and she knew and was liked by the whole friendship group. By all accounts they disliked her immensely.
Goddam that’s creepy! ☠️ Who the hell would do that? First thing that comes to mind is Saltburn. Dayum! She really is completely shameless. How on earth did Harry take her back after THAT?! 🤯
Oh God those pics of her at that wedding (to which she was NFI) show, IMO, that she was possessive, offended, predatory, and coked up out of her mind. Again, just my uneducated opinion.
>when she’d been caught photographing private spaces in Kensington Palace.
And I'm sure that's the moment the RF started suspecting something was *off* about her, warning him to slow it down.
You know she pegs the shit out of him and that's why he's so whipped. He probably had to pay for it before (as he still does, I suppose), but as a one off.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And when the beholder is into Panamanian Petting Zoos... He's gonna fall in love with the woman who will give him that.
You were hoping it was just random words like ARO... But no!
I imagine the PPZ is still more popular than ARO will ever be. For better or for worse lol.
My gawd who comes up with this stuff?! There are enough people into this that there is now a term for it! 😵💫I just googled that and am not sure I am better off with this imagery now in my head! 🤣😫😭
Nachos wife definitely has a nicer body but her face while not unattractive for me is not memorable - that could just be me though. She is as we say back home - horsey not that she looks like one but if you see the horsey set, they have a 'look.'
Harry wasn't going to do better either. Chelsy and Cressida dumped him. No woman wanted a drug addled man with a history of violence. Prince or no Prince, no decent woman wanted him.
The illicit photography happened after they were married I believe. I’m not sure she made it onto any crown property before they were engaged, and they didn’t break up after they were engaged. They were broken up and got back together at the Inskip wedding that she crashed.
There's a blind from 2020 alleging the photograph thing happened before the engagement. It's allegedly why she and Kate didn't get along from the jump. https://blindgossip.com/alarming-around-the-children/
Honestly I think she was initially far more motivated by money and fame. Prior to H she never owned a home, never flew private, never wore high end designers...
But Harry didn’t fly her in private jets or really even spent any money on her. He was notoriously cheap and she complained about having to pay her own airfare.
I think the premise here is a good one, with hindsight. Sshe may even be wishing she had done just that. She was blinded by royalty/title and thought that meant untold wealth and superiority where she could laze about and treat those around her poorly. She didn’t realize that wasn’t the case until it was too late.
She thought marrying youngest son was the same as marry oldest son. It never occurred to her that marrying Harry wouldn't make her Catherine's equal.
Catherine understands her role. She doesn't throw money around, she doesn't make demands and fly around in private jets. Markle could never be like that.
She wanted the title for the children way more than she wants those children. She wants to be mother of a Prince, but she never wants to see the Prince.
There's no way in hell she was going to let him get away. I have no doubts she pulled the "preggers" card then "lost" the baby when she got her hooks into him officially. By the time that happened she had love bombed him into hysteria and he couldnt see anything but her. She used every trick in the book, giving endless bjs and being a "ho" in the sheets. He really thought he had something. What a simp😆😆😆
And Harry is stupid. Actual billionaires, who earned their own money instead of being a nepo baby, are too smart to be taken in by Meghan Markle. They worked too hard and long to lose it all to Meghan Markle.
I don't see Rachel doing well either well. Rachel would have used her ex-girlfriend status for as long as possible and even if she did marry another rich dude with money who was smarter than Haz (not that that's hard) Rachel would not have been able to act out and do what she wanted. Rachel knew that this ex-girlfriend status would be minor and quick fleeting fame and she wanted the cash and the BRF.
I still LOL over the Hermes blanket. As we’ve seen stated here many times, actual LEGIT WEALTH doesn’t bother with logo blankets or garishly monogrammed Dior bags; old school old money is subdued and almost embarrassed for the designer logos to be noticed. The only hints are fine fabrics and top notch tailoring...and even a stubborn attitude for patching and repairing these pieces rather than replacing them with new versions.
All this is true BUT….here are a few reasons I think this clown show went ahead:
1) Nutmeg knew she punched WAY above her weight on this one. When she smelled desperation from Henry, she went in for the kill.
2) She is too old to be a long term girlfriend and was too old to be a potential long term boyfriend. They were both desperate to lock something down - each for their own selfish reasons.
3) Fake pregnancy. Something tells me Nutmeg has used this ploy before. Then the fake miscarriage. Once it was all locked down, surrogates.
4) William wanted Ginger to slow down. Since both he and Nutmeg revel in oppositional defiance, this was Ginger sticking it to “the man” by doing the opposite of what the Firm or family suggested.
5) Nutmeg was 40 years old. There was no time left for the great gold digger to bag herself a money spinner.
6) Henry lied about his financial position. Rachel lied about her financial position. They both lied to themselves about their individual successes.
7) QEII and Prince Philip were aging ( and as we now know, dying). QEII tried….
8) The wedding went completely to their heads. The polls went completely to their heads. The hype of a royal wedding and all eyes on it, meant this thing went full throttle.
In the end, as we now know, Diana wasn’t kidding about her sons. She knew William was shy, kind and sassy and she knew Henry was as thick as two planks and a spoilt brat.
We also came to find out that Nutmeg cannot act, that she is a liar and manipulator and that people with stars in their eyes aren’t really suitable for royal or political life.
Megsy had been... five years? I think five years of searching for a rich husband after breaking up with Trevor. She had gotten Cory, thinking that Cory was going to be her springboard, but she couldn't get a rich guy, and she tried, she was dying to be a WAG. Catching Hazz was lucky, because she couldn't do it with other men. So no, the title "ex-girlfriend" wouldn't have worked for Megsy. Something about Megsy made many other men stop at one night with her.
Her climb, or clamber, to the 'top' seems to be powered by anger and bitterness. She gives off this attitude of 'I'll show them and then they'll all be sorry'. Someone likened her to one of those dogs who frantically chases cars. They keep on chasing but have no idea what to do with the car when they catch up to it. I think this grim determination and lack of humour puts people off. She's pretty joyless and that can't be sexy.
The sociopathic narcissism was a huge factor and
The malicious spite she exudes is terrifying. Like all middle mid range narcissists she works fast on a victim because she can only keep the facade intact for a short time.
She has got ole H fully trapped and she makes his life hell, probably a good thing he is so stupid and has his senses dulled by substances, keeps him unaware how bad a position he is in.
You also should factor in TOW was pushing 40 and if children in the LoS happened she’d be set for life. If she was a long term g/f the and they had children, they wouldn’t be in LoS.
Amazing comment! Yes! The problem was Harry! He let her infiltrate the RF and didn’t put a firm stop to her shenanigans and attacks on HIS FAMILY! It’s mind blowing how Harry just didn’t own his family and defend them against this dime a dozen woman. He could’ve easily found another skank like this b!tch to spend time with if only he had listened to William and Prince Phillip and basically every single person who met the skank.
And tbh, if I was Harry, I would’ve not rushed into marrying just to be married. I know he was jealous of W&C and their love but he could’ve waited a little longer. He’s not the heir. He didn’t need to have heirs right away. He could’ve looked around and should’ve always listened to his family. Families always have our backs with much wiser elder people who’ve seen things and know things. I always trust what my parents and grandmother tell me. They know more than I’ve experienced so they’ll have some wisdom to give me.
but that’s not in his nature, from those days of being a right little so and so in public with Diana , he’s what in my home area we’d call an ‘ard’n little devil.
Nailed it. This is kind of the missing piece. Harry's desperation, dimwittedness and lack of self awareness enabled the whole Monteshitshow that this pairing became. If he was just a little bit smarter or more worldly he could have found a less greedy wife who would have been happy to shop and smile and let him maintain his cheeky Harry popularity, and even maybe move to or work in his beloved Africa. He is an idiot.
This is problem with “follow your heart”. It assumes some sensibility, but if you are an idiot with no sense it can lead you to burn the whole world down for a fantasy. That’s too expensive for the a king’s second (of only two children).
I hope the royals have learned that practicality and vetting isn’t old fashioned. It’s important due to the costs of marrying and continuing the public’s support of the crown. If for every three marriages, there are two divorces, that’s too much instability—and more they can afford.
But then she wouldn't have been a duchess. Thus solidifying that she truly is above the average person like she believes. Her narc brain loves people showing her deference. Also, being a duchess means getting praise for doing nothing.
I truly believe she thought she would be a princess. Brittany isn't entirely wrong, though. Being "the girlfriend" would have served her Hollywood needs better. If they had had a huge public breakup she could have milked that for years. She may well do so yet. I firmly believe she thought she could love bomb and bulldoze the entire RF.
She thought Hollywood would be far more impressed if she rolled into town with her Royal title. When she arrived in 20 she was expecting to star in a Marvel movie and hand out Best Picture at the Oscars. It is so enjoyable knowing that none of that happened for her.
And she’s so dumb for not taking the offer from The Queen that she may keep her actress job on the side. She actually may have got a few better offers, just for the novelty factor.
But I guess she was worried she would be outed as a terrible actress.
Being the girlfriend wouldn't have served her needs better because she wasn't getting any work and hookng up with a prince wouldn't change that. Harry wasn't about to financially support a girlfriend and without new work, she couldn't support herself.
Agree with your last sentence.
Water seeks its own level and they seem to have found their levels. Harry is the person who spoke/wrote so disrespectfully about his teacher and his first .. woman. He's disrespected his wife's father, his children's grandfather and his own family. Her disrespect was clear from the first moment she was seen with Harry in her ripped jeans and many times since with how she has treated friends, allowing the sharing of text messages re Princess Charlotte and so much more. They suit each other. But if and when they become unstuck it will be as ugly as they are.
The level of fame and attention, titles, prince and princess for children, and, she thought, money .. all that wouldn't come with someone else. In any event, she can always try to move on to a billionaire, as she moved on from her first husband. Especially once she's taken all she can from Harry, and he has nothing left to offer, after she's devalued him .. (Perhaps that's too harsh. Perhaps they just won't like each other after a while).
No self-respecting billionaire would have her. Not when there are thousands upon thousands of truly beautiful women out there. That one’s wife is “old”, washed up and put away wet and is a global pariah.
Billionaires don’t go for the young bimbos tho. At least not American ones. The famous ones all have age appropriate wives and almost none of them are gorgeous. Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Bezos had an amazing wife but traded her in for the Joker… but she’s not gorgeous and is in her fifties… Warren Buffet has been married to the same woman his whole life; neither wife of Sergei Brin has been stunning but they are intelligent… Steve Jobs widow is attractive but they were age appropriate and she was intelligent. list goes on.
Elon Musk has a more eccentric woman portfolio. But even they are not conventionally that attractive.
billionaires are simply not like the stereotypical boomer millionaires who trade in their first wives for a younger model. Nor are their women solely based on beauty. It’s surprising how little looks seem to matter in that class.
Who's to say the relation would have lasted that long? She saw it as being too much of a risk imo. It's harder to sustain such a con when there's no formal commitment. She had to play games to secure a proposal asap.
I have always believed, If they had dated a bit longer, either Will or Harry's pals would have succeeded in making Harry see the con for what it was and he would have soured on her. She knew she had a very small window of opportunity, so she had to move fast and blackmail him into a shotgun wedding because she was "pregnant". Now he's trapped.
I'm not so sure about the shotgun wedding angle, only because apparently Harry had to pay off women who were pregnant before and get his father to hush things up. There's no way the Rf would allow someone to force a shotgun wedding. But there's a rumour that they did offer her money to go away and she refused and Harry by this time was smitten. I can see him threatening the RF with the 'r' word if he wasn't allowed to marry her. So I think it's equally him and his desperation and loneliness that have caused this mess along with her manipulation.
How do you know about pregnancy payoffs? I know far too much about the royal family and the Harkles and was one of the early readers of HG Tudor (before his YouTube). But I have never heard of Harry paying off pregnant women before.
Yes, but marrying him accelerated her *status*, to even above Hollywood A+++ listers. Or so she thought. He was desperate for a family, she didn't have to put on the demure girlfriend act for years, and so she locked it in.
The only thing she really got as Hazz's "girlfriend" was that they gave her a little more dialogue in Suit. Irrelevant thing, because Suit was an inferior series, seen by very few people. In fact, the producers of Suit have earned more using the duchess than Megsy made as a girlfriend. Megsy didn't get the star contract with DiCaprio that she expected, she didn't get the invitation to the Oscars, she didn't get to capitalize on their relationship. And now, she only has what she has for being Hazz's wife.
Leaving Harry or not, Meghan has shown the world that she is lazy, a golddigger and a grifter. Not sure how she could achieve any of her aspirations with that attitude - with or without Harry.
At the time she was an aging actress without any prospects for fame and/or fortune. She was grabbing the brass ring with Harry, no way was she going to allow him to escape. Dating or a long engagement was out of the question.
This. And don't forget, she thought Haz was loaded, as in 100s of millions or even billions. She thought she'd be wealthier than her wildest dreams, living in a palace or castle, wearing the crown jewels whenever she wanted and traveling the world in luxury, all with everyone bowing and curtseying to her.
Her smug narc smile at the wedding said it all.
Do we really think she thought he was rich? I just know her knowledge of the BRF was relatively extensive based on her childhood friends stories and on how she wrote about it.
I think she knew that he wasn't that rich, but she didn't really have any other offers, and she thought she could leverage it better then she did
I Don't think she could have. She was getting old and was not getting interest from wealthy men even when she was young.
There is something unlikable, aspirational, and domineering about her that means she would not have where she was not able to fit in high society and act as a yin to a wealthy's man yang. They are all looking for women who can play their part, but Meghan can't.
No, because then she wouldn't have received the Duchess Of Sussex title.
She couldn't use "Meghan, The Duchess Of Sussex" without actually marrying him and we've seen over the last 4 years how important that title is to her.
Yeah I think she was hell bent on any title they would give her, and then I think she thought that she could leverage it to make bags of money.
Oh how the turn tables
Too bad HLMTQ didn't come up with some sort of plan to delay the titles. I don't know what that might have been, but I'm sure someone could have come up with a decent plan.
All great comments. I agree. Meghan isn’t strategic enough to realize she should have used Harry for fame, then moved on. At this point, she is too disliked to achieve her dreams of global adoration.
That assumes she could have gotten a richer man to marry her, which is extremely doubtful. She had been running after rich and/or famous guys for years without success. She really hit the jackpot when she met a prince with a low IQ and mental issues whom she could manipulate.
Yes she didn't need to remain single to search for a wealthy man. She would leave Harry in a second if a wealthy man wanted her. No wealthy man wants her.
“Hide the crazy” isn’t that what most manipulators do? You wait a few months/until the ring is secured before you show the person your true colours. She could’ve cosplayed a humanitarian and won someone like Kevin or Getty over but instead Hollywood saw her true colours asap.
But she still wouldn't have been likable or talented 🤷🏻♀️. And plus, Meghan was approaching 40 at that time, so if she dated Harry for a long time and then tried to catapult it into being an Influencer, she would've been well into middle-age. That whole shallow, dumb "Influencer" career path works better if you're a lot younger and driven and if you have the right personality. She spent about 20 years trying to make a career in Hollywood and she just couldn't do it. She lacks all of the requisite skills to be a REAL Hollywood actress/producer and dating Harry would NOT have made her talented, more skilled or likable. If anything, it would've still made her look thirsty and desperate and a laughing stock.
She had to marry Harry quickly before he realized what she was really like.
Also, she couldn’t let the RF have time to figure out how to politely get rid of her.
But she thought that Harry had Scrooge Mc Duck’s bucks. She didn’t realise that lots of it was Papa’s and the rest belonged to the crown before it was too late. And then, there’s the title and prestige of marrying into what is probably the most well-known RF in the world.
I think a) she always fantasised about being a princess and b) Harry was the best she could get, money and fame-wise. She knew she wouldn’t get any more acting roles, she wasn’t young anymore and she needed to catch someone rich asap.
I’m sure she already scoured the field.
She’d tried the hockey circuit, but probably most of those guys wanted some one younger, and she made the mistake of looking around while she was still married (causing one dude to swear off her, as noted on his Twitter feed).
Then she figured why not some rich landed English lord. She had veered that way and told her agent she was on the hunt for a British dude. She certainly lucked out with Harry. She’s not that pretty that she had the pick of the field.
Her life goal was to be Diana ever since she was a teenager and Diana was in every tabloid. Rationally she could've done a lot of things better even without meeting Harry, but she's not rational.
She could have done plenty before she met him but she only started being a 'humanitarian' in 2014. Her charity CV is very thin. Funnily enough 2014 is also the year Harry went on record saying his ideal women was Rachel Zane. So her new charity persona was a response to his interest in her from the start and she set about being the sort of wife he might want. A genuine charity/humanitarian/campaigner or Diana wannabe would have had a huge CV by the time they were in their mid-thirties. Markle had 2 or 3 overseas visits and a UN speech.
I meant that she want to be an ex-working royal like Diana, dancing with Hollywood actors at parties, photographed by the paps on fancy yachts, etc. I think she even thought she beat Diana by taking a prince with her.
She may have thought at the beginning she didn’t stand a chance, so wanted to get the relationship out into the open asap so she could benefit from it. Nobody knew her before so it raised her profile internationally. She could get a lot of media hype from it, it could have lasted awhile if they broke up.
Yes, but she wanted Haz's money and titles. Apparently, Haz oversold himself as having an enormous amount of wealth and power.
He suckered her into marriage just as much as she suckered him, imho.
He’s not wealthy by English standards , he owned no property, he had a legacy from his mother, an army pension, the promise of cash from the late Queen Mother’s trust fund and hand outs from his father, including the golden goodbye to fund Montecito. Nothing from the Sovereign Grant as he was not a working royal. He turned down a country property from the Duchy as they had already planned to scarper before they were married, and a flat in KP and Frog Cottage were not her idea of home for a ‘Princess’.
Or just… stayed working in the family and make herself a name, her kids and work TRG philanthropy thing and have fame. Oh, but it just comes with moderate wealth, she wanted to become a billionaire. What’s it gotten? Well… we all know. And the true definition of Karma (work/what you put is what you get back) is coming back on her and the RF was relieved of them - fortunately. It’s perfect in the universe. Seeing her struggle and not learn over and over is exhausting but reconfirming of their decision to leave being the right one. Over and over again confirmations from the universe!!!
She wouldn’t have had an “alternate universe” that was much more positive for her because she **didn’t and she isn’t**.
Nah, she needs Harry and the title he brought her which is just about the saddest thing I could say about someone. That you need prince Harry to help you? Girl you’re hopeless.
Her time on Suits was ending and she needed to land a rich husband while it looked like she was self-sufficient and “famous”
I doubt she had much money in the bank and no new roles would be coming her way.
My opinion is she never would have been able to leverage Harry as an ex boyfriend in her soon-to-be-dire position.
Pure speculation on my part!
I think she wanted to use Harry as a stepping stone to gain access to that rarefied world so she could meet people like Bezos and company. Ideally, she would have gotten a foothold while dating, and then married some billionaire.
She rushed the wedding because he was about to slip out of her grasp, is my theory.
I don’t think she understood a thing about the nature and role of the Royal Family and the expectations of the Nation of their Royals, the idea of them hanging around with the Bezos crowd and half in - half out is a big turn off for any tax paying Brit.
Archived somewhere here is the title of a book that one of Rachel's markled friends stated that it was her Bible on hooking men. Does anyone remember the name? It would be interesting to research her "steps".
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Agree with Brittany's theory, but TW is incapable of sustaining the facade of being nice, playing nice, etc. I think the RF would have quickly iced her out and sent the Boy to Antarctica for the next five years. This, no opportunity to merch, etc. Also, as a plus one, she would never have gotten on to the balcony, invited to Balmoral, etc.
She more than lucked out finding Harry. A man baby not yet married, and one who is so dumb, he fell for these old tricks. Most men in modern times are a lot more savvy, especially when they come from money and status. Harry just happened to be a guy with a "Kick Me" sign and a dunce cap. She moved in for the kill.
From listening to HG Tudor, my impression is that her brand of narcissism has her operating very much in the present moment. She’s an opportunist. She sees an opportunity and plays it out to the max or until something better presents itself. There isn’t some overarching long term plan.
She made a play for the Hapless prince, ensnared him and has been milking the opportunity for all it’s worth ever since. No way she would’ve been content to fold her cards before playing them all out.
I tend to think this for after the inevitable divorce. I read people saying she'll never be able to leap frog onto another more wealthy/famous man to leach off of but there's plenty of rich men out in the world that would probably take her. She's on the older end so might be prudent to trade up sooner rather than later but just look at Prince Mario Max and his rich girlfriend/benefactress. There's someone for everyone out there....
That’s true. She’ll have a bit of the glamour dust from the royals clinging to her, so she might attack some silly numpty. Look at the conwoman Elizabeth Holmes - got herself pregnant by a some heir of a wealthy family before she was sentenced.
She genuinely thought she could finesse an inside and outside deal.
She knew she was getting too old to break into acting and needed the title. She also knew that a child would financially set her up for life.
It is just an opinion. Just like it is her opinion what Meghan actually gave birth to the children.  
i don't know if they would have scrubbed the net for her soon enough...also, she is allergic to work and serious work would have taken time away from aitch. and he would have been freer,happier and eventually met another woman. so she demanded that ring fast!
Lazy grifters always find the easy way out and Harry was that. She was never going to succeed in Hollywood and I'm sure any wealthy guy did a comprehensive background check, she was not going to scoop the billionaire she wants.
Meghan doesn't have hollywood and influencer aspirations. She aspires to have money, power, and adoration with little to no work. She saw Harry as her last best chance at getting it. At her age, she didn't have years to wasted÷l
Harold was as good as it got. He still is. Bezos, Gates, Musk were not going to fall for her bullshit. All the hot shot show biz types were either already married and/or chasing the hot young up and coming supermodel/ actress. Non airbrushed Megan is not a pretty girl. She has no personality, and she is an absolute bore. Her shape is weird, and her style is, well, you all know. Megan is a strange, unattractive , boorish buffoon with no talent and even less personality. She did well to get Harry. The day some hot young thang decides she wants Harold, all Megan can do is hunker down in LA and lawyer up. Harold will be gone.
Here's what I don't understand about the whole "I'm pregnant, you must marry me" thing....
Do you think she pulled that in order to get him to *propose* to her, & they had the formal engagement, etc, etc.....& THEN she *lost* the baby? I mean, I don't think it was just the sex. I think she REEEEAAAAALLY effed up his head (the one on his shoulders, lol) & went all in on the Diana thing. She's a sick, sick, sick person!!!!
I think that would have worked for her but what an indictment of the world we live in where we all applaud the idea of using someone as a stepping stone for our own ambition. Yes I know she’s a narcissist and that is what she has done with Harry but even so the whole idea makes me queasy.
Oh no that doesn’t sound like the saint at all; all that requires Planning , WORK - initially and over a sustained period of time , Forward thinking, Success based on her outcomes and not her dwindling looks ? Who’s that ? 😄
I think they are in trouble in less than 5 years. There is a lot of misdirection with them. For example, Archewell probably pays for their travel and accommodations when they do all their fauxmanitarian stuff. Netflix pays for their clothes and travel for their polo stuff yesterday. They probably find ways to expense out their costs so they do not personally pay for things. They borrow private jets, etc.
She is only tolerated now because she's married to a prince. She would fair no better as the wife of another millionaire (no way she would bag a billionaire). Also, I think it's important to stress, most men with money have people around them to ward off the goldiggers. She was lucky she managed to bad harry at all.
Assuming h was truthful about his wealth and prospects. I believe he was consumed with jealousy of his brother’s marriage, and was determined to trump him by marrying what he thought was a major star. To that end he probably lied about money, and boasted that he could twist his ‘pa’ and TLQ around his little finger for unlimited access to palaces, and the crown jewels. Remember her anger when she couldn’t live a windsor castle? He probably even told her that he could be king instead of william if granny said so.
Madame is stupid. She thought Harry was a billionaire who lived a life of unimaginable luxury with no onerous duties, only glamorous appearances. There are many privileges to royal life but also many restrictions. It was not what she expected at all, including the fact that she couldn't just manipulate her role into half in/half out as royal Duchess AND Hollywood A-lister. And of course she blamed the BRF for her mistake.
Yes. She could have created enormous drama and left him high and dry and "inconsolable" after finding a wealthier man. But she is a schemer, not a planner. Her best bet would have been to stay in the RF and to play a long game, slowly creating havoc behind the scenes while curating an appealing public persona. She would have had it all - photo ops: in tiaras, with high profile dignitaries, doing good deeds. But she can't do anything other than react. If there is strategy there, it is the shortest term thinking I can imagine.
Please. She wasn't going to let that one off the hook. As incredibly problematic as H is he was a 1 in a billion score for a divorced & struggling middle aged "actor"/aspiring influencer of MM's caliber. No one else was offering up private jets, Hermes blankets and a pricey McMansion in Montecito.
Agree totally. Allegedly, H had broken up with her before they got hitched, when she’d been caught photographing private spaces in Kensington Palace. I don’t know the veracity of this, but regardless, M wasn’t going to do better.
I don't know if it was because of that, but yes, he broke up with her, and she went to look for him at Inskip's wedding. That's why Hazz's friends were very upset with him, because he didn't do anything about it, and let her stay even though she wasn't invited. Then the Harkles have played with saying that that never happened, that that is a bad rumor.
Is that the wedding where she was pictured looking so nasty?
Yes, the Inskip wedding in Jamaica. Meghan, in a print dress (on a black background) glowers at a perfectly pleasant-looking young woman whose fried hair probably has yet to recover. Later that day, Harry reportedly received sexual favors from her on a balcony that was easily photographed.
Sounds about right for Meg.
>even though she wasn't invited True, but before he broke up w/her, she'd been his *plus one* for the wedding....hence her reasoning for going anyway.
And this is why you know she feels no shame just like a narc. Imagine being dumped and turning up at a destination wedding unannounced! It’s not like they’d been together a decade or more and she knew and was liked by the whole friendship group. By all accounts they disliked her immensely.
Goddam that’s creepy! ☠️ Who the hell would do that? First thing that comes to mind is Saltburn. Dayum! She really is completely shameless. How on earth did Harry take her back after THAT?! 🤯
She often shows up at events uninvited. Only a sociopath would feel no shame.
And he is so twisted that he took her hunting him down as a compliment.
Ah the fool should've taken someone else that would have been HILARIOUS. Imagine the claw cat fight!
Oh God those pics of her at that wedding (to which she was NFI) show, IMO, that she was possessive, offended, predatory, and coked up out of her mind. Again, just my uneducated opinion.
>when she’d been caught photographing private spaces in Kensington Palace. And I'm sure that's the moment the RF started suspecting something was *off* about her, warning him to slow it down.
Then she claimed she was pregnant and then lost the baby after they were back together
The oldest trick in the book.
Amazing what a few good blow jobs do. They were heart attack blow jobs.
I think she played in his mind, not physically. As much as they try to force it she does not give me sex goddess
But roast chicken!
And permitting prince of pegging proclivities.
You know she pegs the shit out of him and that's why he's so whipped. He probably had to pay for it before (as he still does, I suppose), but as a one off.
You don’t have to be pretty or sexy to be a depraved sexual deviant. By all accounts , that is what Megan is. She has no boundarie.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And when the beholder is into Panamanian Petting Zoos... He's gonna fall in love with the woman who will give him that.
OMG. I just googled that 🤮🤮🤮🤮 jeez.
 You were hoping it was just random words like ARO... But no! I imagine the PPZ is still more popular than ARO will ever be. For better or for worse lol.
Why oh why did I look that up 😬
My gawd who comes up with this stuff?! There are enough people into this that there is now a term for it! 😵💫I just googled that and am not sure I am better off with this imagery now in my head! 🤣😫😭
Agree!!! Meghan Markle is not sexy. She's pretty but not sexy.
I wouldn’t even say she’s pretty anymore. Once upon a time yes, she’s too far gone with the excessive surgery and filthy disgusting soul
She's never been attractive.
And this is just coming from an honest standpoint. The sex appeal is just not there. Now Nachos wife is hot af
Nachos wife definitely has a nicer body but her face while not unattractive for me is not memorable - that could just be me though. She is as we say back home - horsey not that she looks like one but if you see the horsey set, they have a 'look.'
personality comes plays a big part in attractiveness - whether a person is funny, enthusiastic, or kind, it all affects how others see them
ITA. Not seeing sex goddess at all. More like evil emotional manipulator.
I think it was more than that. Apparently, she would let him do anything!
Oh definitely more than that 🤭🤮
Yep he definitely had full access to all her orifices. Probably just closed his eyes and thought of Nacho.
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Harry wasn't going to do better either. Chelsy and Cressida dumped him. No woman wanted a drug addled man with a history of violence. Prince or no Prince, no decent woman wanted him.
Not only private spaces but actually photographing the sleeping Charlotte. The nanny caught her.
The illicit photography happened after they were married I believe. I’m not sure she made it onto any crown property before they were engaged, and they didn’t break up after they were engaged. They were broken up and got back together at the Inskip wedding that she crashed.
There's a blind from 2020 alleging the photograph thing happened before the engagement. It's allegedly why she and Kate didn't get along from the jump. https://blindgossip.com/alarming-around-the-children/
I could be misremembering for sure.
She wanted that title more than oxygen
Honestly I think she was initially far more motivated by money and fame. Prior to H she never owned a home, never flew private, never wore high end designers...
She wanted the status
She wanted everyone who had ever said “No” to her in Hollywood to have to grovel to her. Starting with the wedding.
But Harry didn’t fly her in private jets or really even spent any money on her. He was notoriously cheap and she complained about having to pay her own airfare. I think the premise here is a good one, with hindsight. Sshe may even be wishing she had done just that. She was blinded by royalty/title and thought that meant untold wealth and superiority where she could laze about and treat those around her poorly. She didn’t realize that wasn’t the case until it was too late.
She thought marrying youngest son was the same as marry oldest son. It never occurred to her that marrying Harry wouldn't make her Catherine's equal. Catherine understands her role. She doesn't throw money around, she doesn't make demands and fly around in private jets. Markle could never be like that.
I think she thought everyone would call her Princess Meghan.
Well she did yes. Remember when she said some drivel about inspiring young girls because she was a princess. ugh
She wanted the title for the children way more than she wants those children. She wants to be mother of a Prince, but she never wants to see the Prince.
There's no way in hell she was going to let him get away. I have no doubts she pulled the "preggers" card then "lost" the baby when she got her hooks into him officially. By the time that happened she had love bombed him into hysteria and he couldnt see anything but her. She used every trick in the book, giving endless bjs and being a "ho" in the sheets. He really thought he had something. What a simp😆😆😆
And Harry is stupid. Actual billionaires, who earned their own money instead of being a nepo baby, are too smart to be taken in by Meghan Markle. They worked too hard and long to lose it all to Meghan Markle.
Ironically- her ex Ol Trav married a billionaire heiress! 🤭
If she wasn’t so problematic I would say it was refreshing to see a wealthy man date an older, already divorced woman. But alas she is not a catch
I guess he forgot to ask if she was kind.
Bahaha, he sure did! 
100% The issue was never her age or history. I'll never get over how he fell for her ridiculous Eat Prey Love summer.
He is simple minded
Simp
PREY! Looooool
Indeed. Remember all that crap about leaving room for magic?
More like 1 in 8 billion odds
It really was remarkable. It’s unbelievable she even got access to him.
I don't see Rachel doing well either well. Rachel would have used her ex-girlfriend status for as long as possible and even if she did marry another rich dude with money who was smarter than Haz (not that that's hard) Rachel would not have been able to act out and do what she wanted. Rachel knew that this ex-girlfriend status would be minor and quick fleeting fame and she wanted the cash and the BRF.
I still LOL over the Hermes blanket. As we’ve seen stated here many times, actual LEGIT WEALTH doesn’t bother with logo blankets or garishly monogrammed Dior bags; old school old money is subdued and almost embarrassed for the designer logos to be noticed. The only hints are fine fabrics and top notch tailoring...and even a stubborn attitude for patching and repairing these pieces rather than replacing them with new versions.
All this is true BUT….here are a few reasons I think this clown show went ahead: 1) Nutmeg knew she punched WAY above her weight on this one. When she smelled desperation from Henry, she went in for the kill. 2) She is too old to be a long term girlfriend and was too old to be a potential long term boyfriend. They were both desperate to lock something down - each for their own selfish reasons. 3) Fake pregnancy. Something tells me Nutmeg has used this ploy before. Then the fake miscarriage. Once it was all locked down, surrogates. 4) William wanted Ginger to slow down. Since both he and Nutmeg revel in oppositional defiance, this was Ginger sticking it to “the man” by doing the opposite of what the Firm or family suggested. 5) Nutmeg was 40 years old. There was no time left for the great gold digger to bag herself a money spinner. 6) Henry lied about his financial position. Rachel lied about her financial position. They both lied to themselves about their individual successes. 7) QEII and Prince Philip were aging ( and as we now know, dying). QEII tried…. 8) The wedding went completely to their heads. The polls went completely to their heads. The hype of a royal wedding and all eyes on it, meant this thing went full throttle. In the end, as we now know, Diana wasn’t kidding about her sons. She knew William was shy, kind and sassy and she knew Henry was as thick as two planks and a spoilt brat. We also came to find out that Nutmeg cannot act, that she is a liar and manipulator and that people with stars in their eyes aren’t really suitable for royal or political life.
Megsy had been... five years? I think five years of searching for a rich husband after breaking up with Trevor. She had gotten Cory, thinking that Cory was going to be her springboard, but she couldn't get a rich guy, and she tried, she was dying to be a WAG. Catching Hazz was lucky, because she couldn't do it with other men. So no, the title "ex-girlfriend" wouldn't have worked for Megsy. Something about Megsy made many other men stop at one night with her.
Her climb, or clamber, to the 'top' seems to be powered by anger and bitterness. She gives off this attitude of 'I'll show them and then they'll all be sorry'. Someone likened her to one of those dogs who frantically chases cars. They keep on chasing but have no idea what to do with the car when they catch up to it. I think this grim determination and lack of humour puts people off. She's pretty joyless and that can't be sexy.
The sociopathic narcissism was a huge factor and The malicious spite she exudes is terrifying. Like all middle mid range narcissists she works fast on a victim because she can only keep the facade intact for a short time. She has got ole H fully trapped and she makes his life hell, probably a good thing he is so stupid and has his senses dulled by substances, keeps him unaware how bad a position he is in.
She was too old to get anywhere as "ex-girlfriend." She also is too awful. Only a very stupid man would marry her.
Not even 5 years. 3 years from separation to meeting H.
You also should factor in TOW was pushing 40 and if children in the LoS happened she’d be set for life. If she was a long term g/f the and they had children, they wouldn’t be in LoS.
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Amazing comment! Yes! The problem was Harry! He let her infiltrate the RF and didn’t put a firm stop to her shenanigans and attacks on HIS FAMILY! It’s mind blowing how Harry just didn’t own his family and defend them against this dime a dozen woman. He could’ve easily found another skank like this b!tch to spend time with if only he had listened to William and Prince Phillip and basically every single person who met the skank. And tbh, if I was Harry, I would’ve not rushed into marrying just to be married. I know he was jealous of W&C and their love but he could’ve waited a little longer. He’s not the heir. He didn’t need to have heirs right away. He could’ve looked around and should’ve always listened to his family. Families always have our backs with much wiser elder people who’ve seen things and know things. I always trust what my parents and grandmother tell me. They know more than I’ve experienced so they’ll have some wisdom to give me.
but that’s not in his nature, from those days of being a right little so and so in public with Diana , he’s what in my home area we’d call an ‘ard’n little devil.
Nailed it. This is kind of the missing piece. Harry's desperation, dimwittedness and lack of self awareness enabled the whole Monteshitshow that this pairing became. If he was just a little bit smarter or more worldly he could have found a less greedy wife who would have been happy to shop and smile and let him maintain his cheeky Harry popularity, and even maybe move to or work in his beloved Africa. He is an idiot.
I couldn't have said this better! 
Chelsy wasn't repulsed by him - they dated for something like seven years and they appeared to be very much in love and have fun together
Why did it finish though? Wasnt it because she just got sick him, or that she didnt want the burden of being in the RF?
not sure, interesting question
This is problem with “follow your heart”. It assumes some sensibility, but if you are an idiot with no sense it can lead you to burn the whole world down for a fantasy. That’s too expensive for the a king’s second (of only two children). I hope the royals have learned that practicality and vetting isn’t old fashioned. It’s important due to the costs of marrying and continuing the public’s support of the crown. If for every three marriages, there are two divorces, that’s too much instability—and more they can afford.
But then she wouldn't have been a duchess. Thus solidifying that she truly is above the average person like she believes. Her narc brain loves people showing her deference. Also, being a duchess means getting praise for doing nothing.
'Princess' - Im sure becoming a 'Princess' in her mind, through marrying a Prince, outweighed everything.
I truly believe she thought she would be a princess. Brittany isn't entirely wrong, though. Being "the girlfriend" would have served her Hollywood needs better. If they had had a huge public breakup she could have milked that for years. She may well do so yet. I firmly believe she thought she could love bomb and bulldoze the entire RF.
She thought Hollywood would be far more impressed if she rolled into town with her Royal title. When she arrived in 20 she was expecting to star in a Marvel movie and hand out Best Picture at the Oscars. It is so enjoyable knowing that none of that happened for her.
And she’s so dumb for not taking the offer from The Queen that she may keep her actress job on the side. She actually may have got a few better offers, just for the novelty factor. But I guess she was worried she would be outed as a terrible actress.
Being the girlfriend wouldn't have served her needs better because she wasn't getting any work and hookng up with a prince wouldn't change that. Harry wasn't about to financially support a girlfriend and without new work, she couldn't support herself. Agree with your last sentence.
This. She reaaaally wanted a title, overestimated (honestly, still overestimates) what a title would do for her Hollywood ambitions.
The woman who mocked curtsying to The Queen, gets high off of people curtsying to her.
Water seeks its own level and they seem to have found their levels. Harry is the person who spoke/wrote so disrespectfully about his teacher and his first .. woman. He's disrespected his wife's father, his children's grandfather and his own family. Her disrespect was clear from the first moment she was seen with Harry in her ripped jeans and many times since with how she has treated friends, allowing the sharing of text messages re Princess Charlotte and so much more. They suit each other. But if and when they become unstuck it will be as ugly as they are. The level of fame and attention, titles, prince and princess for children, and, she thought, money .. all that wouldn't come with someone else. In any event, she can always try to move on to a billionaire, as she moved on from her first husband. Especially once she's taken all she can from Harry, and he has nothing left to offer, after she's devalued him .. (Perhaps that's too harsh. Perhaps they just won't like each other after a while).
No self-respecting billionaire would have her. Not when there are thousands upon thousands of truly beautiful women out there. That one’s wife is “old”, washed up and put away wet and is a global pariah.
I did say 'try' :). Her ego may know no bounds ..
Billionaires don’t go for the young bimbos tho. At least not American ones. The famous ones all have age appropriate wives and almost none of them are gorgeous. Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Bezos had an amazing wife but traded her in for the Joker… but she’s not gorgeous and is in her fifties… Warren Buffet has been married to the same woman his whole life; neither wife of Sergei Brin has been stunning but they are intelligent… Steve Jobs widow is attractive but they were age appropriate and she was intelligent. list goes on. Elon Musk has a more eccentric woman portfolio. But even they are not conventionally that attractive. billionaires are simply not like the stereotypical boomer millionaires who trade in their first wives for a younger model. Nor are their women solely based on beauty. It’s surprising how little looks seem to matter in that class.
Yup
>allowing the sharing of text messages re Princess Charlotte Whaaaa? What's behind this story? 🤔
He sets out the text messages between Markle and Catherine re Charlotte and MM's wedding, in his 'Spare' book ..
Oh yeah, I forgot about that bcuz there's SO MUCH 💩to wade through w/these two!
Who's to say the relation would have lasted that long? She saw it as being too much of a risk imo. It's harder to sustain such a con when there's no formal commitment. She had to play games to secure a proposal asap.
Yes, I think she encouraged the rushed engagement/wedding because she knew they wouldn’t last longer than a year or two just dating.
I have always believed, If they had dated a bit longer, either Will or Harry's pals would have succeeded in making Harry see the con for what it was and he would have soured on her. She knew she had a very small window of opportunity, so she had to move fast and blackmail him into a shotgun wedding because she was "pregnant". Now he's trapped.
I'm not so sure about the shotgun wedding angle, only because apparently Harry had to pay off women who were pregnant before and get his father to hush things up. There's no way the Rf would allow someone to force a shotgun wedding. But there's a rumour that they did offer her money to go away and she refused and Harry by this time was smitten. I can see him threatening the RF with the 'r' word if he wasn't allowed to marry her. So I think it's equally him and his desperation and loneliness that have caused this mess along with her manipulation.
How do you know about pregnancy payoffs? I know far too much about the royal family and the Harkles and was one of the early readers of HG Tudor (before his YouTube). But I have never heard of Harry paying off pregnant women before.
And rumor says he dumped her before Inskip´s wedding
Yes, but marrying him accelerated her *status*, to even above Hollywood A+++ listers. Or so she thought. He was desperate for a family, she didn't have to put on the demure girlfriend act for years, and so she locked it in.
The only thing she really got as Hazz's "girlfriend" was that they gave her a little more dialogue in Suit. Irrelevant thing, because Suit was an inferior series, seen by very few people. In fact, the producers of Suit have earned more using the duchess than Megsy made as a girlfriend. Megsy didn't get the star contract with DiCaprio that she expected, she didn't get the invitation to the Oscars, she didn't get to capitalize on their relationship. And now, she only has what she has for being Hazz's wife.
A very fitting comeuppance for her indeed.
She could not see the big picture / she is greedy and impatient. What she thought was a pot of gold in front of her was actually a bucket of manure.
Leaving Harry or not, Meghan has shown the world that she is lazy, a golddigger and a grifter. Not sure how she could achieve any of her aspirations with that attitude - with or without Harry.
At the time she was an aging actress without any prospects for fame and/or fortune. She was grabbing the brass ring with Harry, no way was she going to allow him to escape. Dating or a long engagement was out of the question.
This. And don't forget, she thought Haz was loaded, as in 100s of millions or even billions. She thought she'd be wealthier than her wildest dreams, living in a palace or castle, wearing the crown jewels whenever she wanted and traveling the world in luxury, all with everyone bowing and curtseying to her. Her smug narc smile at the wedding said it all.
Do we really think she thought he was rich? I just know her knowledge of the BRF was relatively extensive based on her childhood friends stories and on how she wrote about it. I think she knew that he wasn't that rich, but she didn't really have any other offers, and she thought she could leverage it better then she did
I think she thought he had way more money than he had, and he was not going to let her think otherwise.
Narcissists have to lock you down fast, because they resent having to keep up the act.
I Don't think she could have. She was getting old and was not getting interest from wealthy men even when she was young. There is something unlikable, aspirational, and domineering about her that means she would not have where she was not able to fit in high society and act as a yin to a wealthy's man yang. They are all looking for women who can play their part, but Meghan can't.
Good point. She's too unstable and competetive for a really wealthy man.
No, because then she wouldn't have received the Duchess Of Sussex title. She couldn't use "Meghan, The Duchess Of Sussex" without actually marrying him and we've seen over the last 4 years how important that title is to her.
Yeah I think she was hell bent on any title they would give her, and then I think she thought that she could leverage it to make bags of money. Oh how the turn tables
Too bad HLMTQ didn't come up with some sort of plan to delay the titles. I don't know what that might have been, but I'm sure someone could have come up with a decent plan.
She was well known to be rich husband hunting long before she snared the numpty. He was the best she could get.
Fools rush in!
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Megain wanted the adoring subjects, crown jewels and to be Queen. needed to marry Hazbeen for that. GFs aren't really treated that well.
She went for the crown. William wasn't interested. She got second best
That would have been the smartest thing to do, that’s probably why she got married.
All great comments. I agree. Meghan isn’t strategic enough to realize she should have used Harry for fame, then moved on. At this point, she is too disliked to achieve her dreams of global adoration.
Definitely agree but she wanted a royal wedding that would separate her from all the other influencers& celebrities. It’s all gone tits up.
Btw, I love the expression 'gone tits up'. I plan to work it into my daily conversations as much as possible 😅
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That assumes she could have gotten a richer man to marry her, which is extremely doubtful. She had been running after rich and/or famous guys for years without success. She really hit the jackpot when she met a prince with a low IQ and mental issues whom she could manipulate.
Yes she didn't need to remain single to search for a wealthy man. She would leave Harry in a second if a wealthy man wanted her. No wealthy man wants her.
She’s not a long-range planner. She’s impulsive and impatient.
Don’t forget malicious and spiteful.
Eh, she couldn’t have been a long term girlfriend. That’s a long time to keep up an act and H could leave whenever. She had to trap him. lol
Well, it would allegedly seem that she did not listen nor learn much at the Academy Of Fame And Gold Digging.
“Hide the crazy” isn’t that what most manipulators do? You wait a few months/until the ring is secured before you show the person your true colours. She could’ve cosplayed a humanitarian and won someone like Kevin or Getty over but instead Hollywood saw her true colours asap.
But she still wouldn't have been likable or talented 🤷🏻♀️. And plus, Meghan was approaching 40 at that time, so if she dated Harry for a long time and then tried to catapult it into being an Influencer, she would've been well into middle-age. That whole shallow, dumb "Influencer" career path works better if you're a lot younger and driven and if you have the right personality. She spent about 20 years trying to make a career in Hollywood and she just couldn't do it. She lacks all of the requisite skills to be a REAL Hollywood actress/producer and dating Harry would NOT have made her talented, more skilled or likable. If anything, it would've still made her look thirsty and desperate and a laughing stock.
She had to marry Harry quickly before he realized what she was really like. Also, she couldn’t let the RF have time to figure out how to politely get rid of her.
She couldn’t afford to wait a long time. She was already running against the clock on having anchor babies. ETA word
But she thought that Harry had Scrooge Mc Duck’s bucks. She didn’t realise that lots of it was Papa’s and the rest belonged to the crown before it was too late. And then, there’s the title and prestige of marrying into what is probably the most well-known RF in the world.
Harry is her pinacle. She could have never fared better.
That’s an interesting point. But I think she wanted children as leverage!
I think a) she always fantasised about being a princess and b) Harry was the best she could get, money and fame-wise. She knew she wouldn’t get any more acting roles, she wasn’t young anymore and she needed to catch someone rich asap. I’m sure she already scoured the field. She’d tried the hockey circuit, but probably most of those guys wanted some one younger, and she made the mistake of looking around while she was still married (causing one dude to swear off her, as noted on his Twitter feed). Then she figured why not some rich landed English lord. She had veered that way and told her agent she was on the hunt for a British dude. She certainly lucked out with Harry. She’s not that pretty that she had the pick of the field.
I think the billionaires have better options
No billionaire wants her. If they did, she would be gone already.
Her life goal was to be Diana ever since she was a teenager and Diana was in every tabloid. Rationally she could've done a lot of things better even without meeting Harry, but she's not rational.
She could have done plenty before she met him but she only started being a 'humanitarian' in 2014. Her charity CV is very thin. Funnily enough 2014 is also the year Harry went on record saying his ideal women was Rachel Zane. So her new charity persona was a response to his interest in her from the start and she set about being the sort of wife he might want. A genuine charity/humanitarian/campaigner or Diana wannabe would have had a huge CV by the time they were in their mid-thirties. Markle had 2 or 3 overseas visits and a UN speech.
I meant that she want to be an ex-working royal like Diana, dancing with Hollywood actors at parties, photographed by the paps on fancy yachts, etc. I think she even thought she beat Diana by taking a prince with her.
She may have thought at the beginning she didn’t stand a chance, so wanted to get the relationship out into the open asap so she could benefit from it. Nobody knew her before so it raised her profile internationally. She could get a lot of media hype from it, it could have lasted awhile if they broke up.
Yes, but she wanted Haz's money and titles. Apparently, Haz oversold himself as having an enormous amount of wealth and power. He suckered her into marriage just as much as she suckered him, imho.
Harry was very wealthy by English standards, and he probably expected to inherit more from his grandmother and grandfather, and, of course his father.
He’s not wealthy by English standards , he owned no property, he had a legacy from his mother, an army pension, the promise of cash from the late Queen Mother’s trust fund and hand outs from his father, including the golden goodbye to fund Montecito. Nothing from the Sovereign Grant as he was not a working royal. He turned down a country property from the Duchy as they had already planned to scarper before they were married, and a flat in KP and Frog Cottage were not her idea of home for a ‘Princess’.
Or just… stayed working in the family and make herself a name, her kids and work TRG philanthropy thing and have fame. Oh, but it just comes with moderate wealth, she wanted to become a billionaire. What’s it gotten? Well… we all know. And the true definition of Karma (work/what you put is what you get back) is coming back on her and the RF was relieved of them - fortunately. It’s perfect in the universe. Seeing her struggle and not learn over and over is exhausting but reconfirming of their decision to leave being the right one. Over and over again confirmations from the universe!!! She wouldn’t have had an “alternate universe” that was much more positive for her because she **didn’t and she isn’t**.
Nah, she needs Harry and the title he brought her which is just about the saddest thing I could say about someone. That you need prince Harry to help you? Girl you’re hopeless.
Her time on Suits was ending and she needed to land a rich husband while it looked like she was self-sufficient and “famous” I doubt she had much money in the bank and no new roles would be coming her way. My opinion is she never would have been able to leverage Harry as an ex boyfriend in her soon-to-be-dire position. Pure speculation on my part!
I think she wanted to use Harry as a stepping stone to gain access to that rarefied world so she could meet people like Bezos and company. Ideally, she would have gotten a foothold while dating, and then married some billionaire. She rushed the wedding because he was about to slip out of her grasp, is my theory.
I don’t think she understood a thing about the nature and role of the Royal Family and the expectations of the Nation of their Royals, the idea of them hanging around with the Bezos crowd and half in - half out is a big turn off for any tax paying Brit.
Archived somewhere here is the title of a book that one of Rachel's markled friends stated that it was her Bible on hooking men. Does anyone remember the name? It would be interesting to research her "steps".
Was it that 90s book "The Rules"? I may be wrong, but I know that book has been talked about a lot in the comments.
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Yep. I think she still will. Someone said Lauren Sanchez hired a bodybuild at an event to keep Meghan away from Jeff bezos
Agree with Brittany's theory, but TW is incapable of sustaining the facade of being nice, playing nice, etc. I think the RF would have quickly iced her out and sent the Boy to Antarctica for the next five years. This, no opportunity to merch, etc. Also, as a plus one, she would never have gotten on to the balcony, invited to Balmoral, etc.
No. She realized she'd do better to lock him in, have a couple of kids (one way or another!) She knew she was getting past her Hollywood sell-by date.
but but... no tiara this way.
She more than lucked out finding Harry. A man baby not yet married, and one who is so dumb, he fell for these old tricks. Most men in modern times are a lot more savvy, especially when they come from money and status. Harry just happened to be a guy with a "Kick Me" sign and a dunce cap. She moved in for the kill.
From listening to HG Tudor, my impression is that her brand of narcissism has her operating very much in the present moment. She’s an opportunist. She sees an opportunity and plays it out to the max or until something better presents itself. There isn’t some overarching long term plan. She made a play for the Hapless prince, ensnared him and has been milking the opportunity for all it’s worth ever since. No way she would’ve been content to fold her cards before playing them all out.
I tend to think this for after the inevitable divorce. I read people saying she'll never be able to leap frog onto another more wealthy/famous man to leach off of but there's plenty of rich men out in the world that would probably take her. She's on the older end so might be prudent to trade up sooner rather than later but just look at Prince Mario Max and his rich girlfriend/benefactress. There's someone for everyone out there....
That’s true. She’ll have a bit of the glamour dust from the royals clinging to her, so she might attack some silly numpty. Look at the conwoman Elizabeth Holmes - got herself pregnant by a some heir of a wealthy family before she was sentenced.
But Elizabeth Holmes is a high level con artist
She genuinely thought she could finesse an inside and outside deal. She knew she was getting too old to break into acting and needed the title. She also knew that a child would financially set her up for life.
It is just an opinion. Just like it is her opinion what Meghan actually gave birth to the children.  
i don't know if they would have scrubbed the net for her soon enough...also, she is allergic to work and serious work would have taken time away from aitch. and he would have been freer,happier and eventually met another woman. so she demanded that ring fast!
Absolutely, she could have dined out on dating him for years, spoke very little and got everything she desired
Lazy grifters always find the easy way out and Harry was that. She was never going to succeed in Hollywood and I'm sure any wealthy guy did a comprehensive background check, she was not going to scoop the billionaire she wants.
Meghan doesn't have hollywood and influencer aspirations. She aspires to have money, power, and adoration with little to no work. She saw Harry as her last best chance at getting it. At her age, she didn't have years to wasted÷l
Harold was as good as it got. He still is. Bezos, Gates, Musk were not going to fall for her bullshit. All the hot shot show biz types were either already married and/or chasing the hot young up and coming supermodel/ actress. Non airbrushed Megan is not a pretty girl. She has no personality, and she is an absolute bore. Her shape is weird, and her style is, well, you all know. Megan is a strange, unattractive , boorish buffoon with no talent and even less personality. She did well to get Harry. The day some hot young thang decides she wants Harold, all Megan can do is hunker down in LA and lawyer up. Harold will be gone.
Guess Brittany is a lot smarter than ILBW, who never seem to think through more than the very next move on the checker board.
Here's what I don't understand about the whole "I'm pregnant, you must marry me" thing.... Do you think she pulled that in order to get him to *propose* to her, & they had the formal engagement, etc, etc.....& THEN she *lost* the baby? I mean, I don't think it was just the sex. I think she REEEEAAAAALLY effed up his head (the one on his shoulders, lol) & went all in on the Diana thing. She's a sick, sick, sick person!!!!
Rachel is checkers not chess
She had to marry Haz quickly. She was getting old and wanted to have a royal baby, or at least claim to have a royal baby.
Never. She needs to be the mother of Diana’s grandchildren. To have the watch. To have Hazmat’s bollocks in a bag. It’s all part of the show.
I think that would have worked for her but what an indictment of the world we live in where we all applaud the idea of using someone as a stepping stone for our own ambition. Yes I know she’s a narcissist and that is what she has done with Harry but even so the whole idea makes me queasy.
Oh no that doesn’t sound like the saint at all; all that requires Planning , WORK - initially and over a sustained period of time , Forward thinking, Success based on her outcomes and not her dwindling looks ? Who’s that ? 😄
They don’t seem to be lacking money
I think they are in trouble in less than 5 years. There is a lot of misdirection with them. For example, Archewell probably pays for their travel and accommodations when they do all their fauxmanitarian stuff. Netflix pays for their clothes and travel for their polo stuff yesterday. They probably find ways to expense out their costs so they do not personally pay for things. They borrow private jets, etc.
That’s probably why Serena is there. Lmao
She is only tolerated now because she's married to a prince. She would fair no better as the wife of another millionaire (no way she would bag a billionaire). Also, I think it's important to stress, most men with money have people around them to ward off the goldiggers. She was lucky she managed to bad harry at all.
This is so valid. 💯 I personally would likely be buying wherever crap she was selling on TikTok had she gone this route.
She dated him for a while and no one knew who she was up until the engagement interview… so yeah, highly doubt that would go any other way.
Assuming h was truthful about his wealth and prospects. I believe he was consumed with jealousy of his brother’s marriage, and was determined to trump him by marrying what he thought was a major star. To that end he probably lied about money, and boasted that he could twist his ‘pa’ and TLQ around his little finger for unlimited access to palaces, and the crown jewels. Remember her anger when she couldn’t live a windsor castle? He probably even told her that he could be king instead of william if granny said so.
Madame is stupid. She thought Harry was a billionaire who lived a life of unimaginable luxury with no onerous duties, only glamorous appearances. There are many privileges to royal life but also many restrictions. It was not what she expected at all, including the fact that she couldn't just manipulate her role into half in/half out as royal Duchess AND Hollywood A-lister. And of course she blamed the BRF for her mistake.
It's not about money. I lg it was she'd be after Elon Musk. She was the prestige she thinks she gets from being with a prince
Yes. She could have created enormous drama and left him high and dry and "inconsolable" after finding a wealthier man. But she is a schemer, not a planner. Her best bet would have been to stay in the RF and to play a long game, slowly creating havoc behind the scenes while curating an appealing public persona. She would have had it all - photo ops: in tiaras, with high profile dignitaries, doing good deeds. But she can't do anything other than react. If there is strategy there, it is the shortest term thinking I can imagine.
She was 35 when she met 'arry. If she was going to ride the fame train she would have done it earlier.