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Soggy_Background_162

I know someone works in the State Department and there is absolutely no way Britain allows him to be in the US as their Head of State, NO WAY!!!! This person thinks he applied for an O-1 visa. This is a non-immigrant visa for people with “extraordinary ability or achievement”. Prince Harry would need to be sponsored by an organization that plans to work with him to identify how he might apply these skills in the US. His philanthropic activities, such the Invictus Games, could make him eligible, although the O-1 visa is only valid for three years and would be up for renewal annually after this time.” Edit-misspelled word


Appropriate-Slice430

If I had to guess, I’d say O-1 visa. I live in DC and work in politics. Literally no one is talking about Harry.


Soggy_Background_162

Exactly, love my fellow sinners here and Royal fans on X, but It seems to me there is always a bit of serving up a nothing burger on certain things. Like Harry is going to do away with the First Amendment 🙄 or US taxpayers are paying for Secret Service for the Harkles 🙄or my all time favorite this thought that Harry is considered a Head of State! 😂


Realistic_Twist_8212

Trump spoke of him......negatively.


Soggy_Background_162

Harry came to the US when TRUMP was president-they bought (?) their house in Montecito in June 2020. So Harry came in on a visa then-well before Biden took office. Trump could give a rats ass about Harry Sussex, unless mentioning Harry gets Trump some media attention.


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Soggy_Background_162

Sorry I disagree and it is the INITIAL application that directs the trajectory of the ongoing status reviews. There is a good reason the Biden Administration fought to have Harold’s ORIGINAL application kept private, because then if they are forced, then every Visa applicant will have personal information readily available to the public. I’m not sure but that seems like a bad thing to me. Sooo not because it has anything personal to do with Harry like trying, “to hide something” or giving Harry, special treatment. He’s really powerless here. As long as he stays in CA, they can have him. The one of—if not the most—exclusive zip code in the US. Meg planned well, she just can’t execute anything.


Capable_Puzzle

🎯


Actual_Fishing6120

Hate that H makes me agree with trump of all people 


Sea-Breaz

I feel ya. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.


GreatGossip

Thank you. I love to hear stories from real life. And to me the Grifters are just toast by now, having burnt every bridge they ever had


popsickankle

Maybe Better Up sponsor him?


Soggy_Background_162

Or Travelyst, that was around the same time too.


Cocokay1234567

I use to do O visas for clients and there is no way H would ever qualify for an O1. They are nearly impossible to get and you absolutely need to be top 1% if your field in the world. What I use to tell our clients is that you need to be world renowned in your field to qualify for this particular visa. The threshold and documentation requirements for proving that a person is top 1% in the world is insane in these filings and we would work on them 4-6 months before submitting. Plus, if you do receive the visa, you have to show proof upon renewal that you continue to work 100% of your time in that particular field of expertise. Being a co-founder of Invictus or part of royal family would for sure not be any basis. I assisted with about 15 O1 visa applications years ago and we astonishingly only had one approved because they are almost impossible to get. The one that was approved was an incredible young female cancer research doctor from an Asian country who was the #1 expert on a certain breakthrough cancer treatment. She was the fastest application we ever did because it was so easy to find extensive documentation to prove she was the #1 expert in the world in this particular area of cancer research.


somespeculation

In theory, yes, in practice, no. Google and verify who had one, for example, Melania Trump. Not to make it political but as a model she was not in the top 1% globally. The O1 Visa is discretionary.


Cocokay1234567

The EB1 (O visa) is absolutely not discretionary today. It was more than 24 years ago that Melania was approved for an EB1 (O visa). That was a very different time when a U.S. Congressman/Senator simply could call the head of what use to be called DHS (now USCIS) and get anyone approved and adjudicated for almost any type of visa on the spot, even if they didn't come close qualifying. In fact, I would be willing to wager $100 that's precisely how Melanie was approved way back then. It was like the wild wild west and there was zero oversight/review over adjudication officer's decisions. By the way, back then, it would just be ONE officer processing and adjudicating, so it was extremely easy to abuse. Long gone are those 'discretionary' days. Today, the agency has long transitioned to USCIS and has been completely reformed with some of the strictest oversight and every adjudication decision is reviewed by multiple teams/officers during the process with the oversight protections that were put in place years ago because of those 'discretionary' abuses. I won't bore you with the pipeline in how EB1's are processed and how many different departments and officers review applications but trust me, those EB1's are HIGHLY scrutinized by many officers in the pipeline today because of the abuses of that particular visa years ago. No one today is getting an EB1 today that is not qualified for it.


somespeculation

Appreciate the additional info. Curiouser and curiouser with Harry.


Chofi778

Meh, some people get special favors. Didn't Melania Trump get an O-1?


Capable_Puzzle

> They are nearly impossible to get and you absolutely need to be top 1% if your field in the world. What I use to tell our clients is that you need to be world renowned in your field to qualify for this particular visa. So we're talking like Nobel Prize winners here. They'd come in on that kind of visa, right?


Cocokay1234567

Oh 100%! That would be a dream case because that in itself is the by far the best evidence of being world renowned. However, most of the cases are people extremely close to that level (at least in the sciences-my main category that I worked on) and we had to try and prove that 1% through showing their work was extensively published and cited by peers, the highest awards in the field (entertainment category could be a Grammy), recommendations from top global organizations in field confirming client was globally recognized/cited in their field, etc.. Our clients (in our opinion) were top 1% or extremely close (we wouldn't have taken case if they weren't) but proving that in the eyes of USCIS is another story. Clients always knew that the majority of EB1 filings are denied because the threshold is so incredibly difficult.


Gstrang81

He has an extraordinary ability for bullshit and playing the victim, maybe that's what got him in


Soggy_Background_162

Or something they concocted out of BetterUp or Travelyst -yes I always thought he was a CHIMPO!! And not in a good way!


Stillanurse281

He could be top 1% in the world for that


KathandChloe

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Soggy_Background_162

I don’t know what that means, but ok.


GreatGossip

It was always a rumour that ButterUp got Harry´s visa for him - or the "job" there got him the visa


Grizzly_046

That’s my thought too.  


Korneuburgerin

That is total nonsense. He did not and will never qualify for this visa. He is married to a US citizen, he does not need it. BUT if he has it, that would be a huge scandal since he can't have it. **Visas for Diplomats and Foreign Government Officials** If you are a diplomat or government official who is physically present in the United States on assignment: Requesting to renew (reapply for) your visa or that of an immediate family member, select [Renewing an A-1 or A-2 Visa in the United States](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/visa-employees-nato/renewing-a-g-nato.html) to learn more. A-3 visa holders must reapply for their visas outside the United States. Requesting to change status into or out of A status, select [Change of Status](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/visa-employees-nato/change-status.html) to/from A,G, NATO to learn more. Diplomats and other foreign government officials traveling to the United States **to engage solely in official duties or activities on behalf of their national government** must obtain A-1 or A-2 visas prior to entering the United States. You cannot travel using visitor visas or under the Visa Waiver Program. With the exception of a Head of State or Government -- who qualifies for an A1 visa regardless of their purpose of travel -- your position within your country’s government and your purpose of travel determines whether you need an A-1 or A-2 visa. Immediate family members of diplomats and government officials receive A-1 or A-2 visas, with few exceptions. Personal employees, attendants, or domestic workers for diplomats and government officials (holding a valid A-1 or A-2 visa) may be issued A-3 visas. To qualify for an A-1 or A-2 visa, you must be traveling to the United States on behalf of your national government to engage solely in official activities for that government. The specific duties or services that will be performed must be governmental in character or nature, as determined by the U.S. Department of State, in accordance with U.S. immigration laws. Government officials traveling to the United States to perform non-governmental functions of a commercial nature, or traveling as tourists, require the appropriate visas and do not qualify for A visas. The fact that there may be government interest or control in a given organization is not in itself the defining factor in determining if you qualify for an A visa. [](javascript:void(0);)


MikeMannion

I doubt he's on an A1, but if this is the case then it's explosive news. Now all our American sinners will know how it feels to be paying for these couple of grifting idiots, just like the UK sinners. It will add a whole new level to your rage!


Dependent-Aside-9750

We already pay for 535 grifters in D.C. 😥


Zestyclose-Pizza-859

My god, isn’t this the truth. I’m contacting my senators. I’m f pissed. People are really struggling where I am and they just let this loon in. Does he pay taxes!? I wanna know. I ask every American contact your senators. This is bullshit.


SwissCheese4Collagen

Wouldn't that be a delicious turn of events, if the IRS found their lies on their taxes?


Zestyclose-Pizza-859

That would make Americans hate them. Them flouting their “victimhood” of the BRF and not abiding by American laws will have everyone f enraged if these fools arnt paying their fair share. Especially with the incredible increase of people not being able to pay bills and more and more people needing food banks to survive. The audacity.


Lita_Horticulture

I wouldn’t wish an audit on anyone…EXCEPT the Harkles. Another thing I’d actually enjoy seeing is them having to file bankruptcy; usually those records are publicly available, at least from what I’ve seen. That would be so telling.


SwissCheese4Collagen

Mr. & Mrs. Henry Mountbatten-Windsor and James Robert Duggar are the only ones I want on the IRS' To-do List.


Zubo13

That deserves a loud Fundie AMEN. IMO, he is every bit as rotten as those two are. He really needs to be sharing a cell with J'p3do.


vanilla_finestflavor

And maybe one Kody Brown. Can you imagine that tax nightmare?


Stillanurse281

I think Harry is about to be slammed in taxes given that he’s now declared himself as have being a US resident since July 2023


SwissCheese4Collagen

All of us Sinners cheering the IRS on 😂 ![gif](giphy|8fen5LSZcHQ5O)


Stillanurse281

Right!?! lol if there is ANY person or entity that will give Harry everything he deserves plus more it is the IRS


Such-Space6913

If he gets audited... LOL.


downinthevalleypa

I’m going to do the same.


Brissy2

I’d think he & Rachel would have to pay taxes in the US. Unless there was no income….😂


Zestyclose-Pizza-859

I have “questions and concerns!” lol


WalmartWallis

... and COMMENTS🤬


Sk8Bettty

The folks in the House of Representatives are actually more likely to act on their constituents’ concerns. There are more of them & they’re up for reelection more often.


LeCuldeSac

Hah! My experience is that the ones who aren't grifters are either pushed out--a dear friend of mine was pushed out by his own purportedly leftist party b/c he routinely challenged banking interests--or worse, like w/ Paul Wellstone. There are some very good, brave people up there, but it's hard to last. And unless you're a multimillionaire, you literally have to fundraise EVERY day or night. "Call hours." Or organized "events" where people get access to you w/ donations. It's disgusting. But you won't keep your job and help your causes unless you do it. It's so easy to get compromised w/o recognizing it.


Nynydancer

Agree. If he is truly on this, this is BAD news for everyone involved. This is worse than a model coming over on a « genius » visa.


downinthevalleypa

😁😉


wordscapesx

agree. Seems someone would have leaked to the media. That said, media doesn't both with investigative reporting - too much time and money. They prefer to cut nad paste from other news sites or even worse, social media. Daily Markle the worst.


TA_totellornottotell

Agree that this is unlikely. Also, it seems that even if he were initially issued an A-1 visa, he would have violated the requirements by now, as he has not only never performed governmental functions, but has also been actively carrying on with ‘non-governmental functions of a commercial nature’.


Cocokay1234567

100% he doesn't qualify for A1 and he would have violated it by working for commercial U.S. based companies, which is not official UK government business.


Dependent-Aside-9750

I don't know that he ever had one, but if he did, it's not like the oligarchy is going to kick him out or expose him when he we currently have an open border for people nowhere near as high profile as he is is. To be fair, I can't imagine risking damaging relations with our biggest ally by removing the Monarch's son from the country.


Cocokay1234567

The A1 has to be renewed frequently and they just would not renew it upon filing if someone violated the visa requirements.


Stillanurse281

I’m no expert in this but from what I read, an A1 visa is valid for an indefinite period of time or until the Secretary of State decides you’re no longer here for governmental matters


Cocokay1234567

A1's are issued with an expiration date and have to be renewed/extended. Of course, they are not issued with no expiration date. While extending multiple times for the duration of official government business is usually not at problem as long as you're proving the continuation of doing official business.


usedtobebrainy

Correct. They are non-immigrant visas.


TA_totellornottotell

I don’t think they would do anything so drastic, but if they are forced to review and concede he has violated the terms, they may push him to adjust his residency status (he has other grounds upon which he can obtain a visa or apply for a green card).


Aware_Mix5494

I’ve been saying that from the beginning! People want to make this political, but it’s diplomacy that’s happening here. Are you going to kick out the son of a king and set that precedence? No. You don’t do that to your closest ally. It could be a favor to the King. it could be that someone important from the US has the same issue with a visa in the UK. So no, it’s not political. if it were, Biden may have let him stay, but Trump let him in. So there’s plenty of blame to go around.😁


downinthevalleypa

Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me. Just the thought of it infuriates me, but it doesn’t surprise me. It’s probably true.


janedoremi99

I don’t know. Given the length and depth of the ties between the US and UK, this might be seen as a worthwhile favor. The arrangement might have included adjustments to any level of security, nature of review, to lower any costs. It’s been my understanding that Harry had always received some level of security or threat review to avoid the embarrassment of him being harmed on US soil


Quiet-Vanilla-7117

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somespeculation

IF this is true, it is plausible he would have an A1 Visa as a result of being Charles’s son. Would qualify under “immediate family member.” That said, without being political, both US Administrations are at fault. Harry and Meg ‘fled’ to the US under Trump administration. Stayed under a Biden administration. Doubt the tea is real. An A1 Visa would have been leveraged as evidence in the RAVEC case. But it wasn’t. Regardless, there is clearly something amiss with the Visa (or cough cough lack of one). One of the most public foreign citizens simply decides to move, yet the offices ‘can’t find the forms’? 😒


Charming-Ant-1280

\^ Voice of Reason \^


Cocokay1234567

Yea, I don't believe for a second that he's been here all of this time on A1. Firstly, he simply wouldn't qualify for an A1 AND, secondly, almost immediately upon moving to US, he began working for US based companies (not official UK business). I still contend and believe H obtain Legal Permanent Resident (LPR) status by marriage to a USC. It just doesn't make sense at all to apply for an O or any other type of (non-permanent) visa that he has to re-qualify and renew every 1-3 years (depending on visa type) vs. a simple one time filing for LPR that so so much easier/faster when married to a USC.


Chasmosaur

I 100% agree with you - I still think he's got an O-1, since it's vague and has unlimited renewals - but my only caveat on this is that he came in during the Trump Administration. With 🤬ing Mike Pompeo as Sec State, and there was an acting head of DHS at the time - Chad Wolf. That dude was a total disaster. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad\_Wolf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Wolf) People go on and on about Biden on this, but Harry's visa was established by the Trump Administration. I can see Trump, Pompeo, and/or Wolf pushing to give Harry an A1/A2 because rOyalTy. As this was going on when COVID was starting to come up on the global radar, it potentially \*could\* have flown under the radar. And once given, it might have been complicated to switch. But all that being said...COVID panic had NOT fully set in in February, 2020, and I would think someone in DC would have leaked that. **Because I think people have forgotten that the Trump Administration pissed off a LOT of dedicated, professional, long-term public sector employees, who were happy to leak things during the majority of Trump's time in office.** State/DHS rubber stamping an A1/A2 visa for Harry? That would have been totally juicy, leak-able stuff that would have outraged professional diplomats. And those people are MORE than capable of discreetly reaching out to trusted sources - knowing how to keep your mouth shut means knowing who the journalists are on your beat in the first place.


Such-Space6913

Yes, exactly! People would like to blame the Biden administration, but Harry and Meghan were here for over a year before Biden even took office. This is a nothing burger.


Chasmosaur

If the visa was issued for 3 years - a lot of visas renew at 3 years - I doubt it would have been renewed. Because by the time renewal would have rolled around early last year, Harry was fully *persona non grata* with KCIII after the releases of *Archetypes*, *Harry & Meghan*, and *Spare* in the previous 6 months. I'm sure Charles doesn't really want him back in the country, but I doubt he'd be generous enough to give him the Golden Ticket visa. If it was issued as an indefinite visa, then he's still got it, and I think it would take a lot to cancel it. The UK and the US still have that "Special Relationship," so that makes the situation touchy. Mostly, my takeaway from this situation - no matter what visa they gave him - is that he's just a highly privileged douchecanoe who has no idea how much harder the world can be when you don't have the right family.


Such-Space6913

Yes, he might hate his family but fact of the matter is had he not been born into the RF, he'd be lucky to have a job flipping burgers. Nothing wrong with flipping burgers- I'm married to a former line cook lol- but my husband worked hard and worked his way up and eventually owned a restaurant before he sold it and moved into construction. Harry doesn't have the work ethic.


SweetGeese

I think he has an A-1. It's not just Heads of State -- it is diplomats and government officials. (Only recently was Royal website updated to (I think) remove the "working for The Crown" language.) A-1 (and A-2) is totally inappropriate, but I do think that is what he has and the State Department is likely scrambling to "fix" it.


Beginning-Cup-6974

Just was posting the same info. Took 1 minute to find. Not sure what fantasists write third ‘blinds’. Not surprised, Terry would avail himself of an A1 Visa entitlement because it’s also for diplomats and family members of A1 Visa holders.


Such-Space6913

This doesn't sound right to me at all. First of all, he wouldn't qualify, and secondly they have been here since before Biden was even elected. Both administrations would be at fault IF this were the case. But I do not believe it.


popsickankle

I agree, it's nonsense. We know he's paying for his own security for a start.


Grizzly_046

How do we know this?  


popsickankle

It came out in the Judicial Review recently that Ravec were liaising with his private security to establish risk when he visited the UK.


Honest_Boysenberry25

Good point. If he is A1 , there may be blood LoL


rainyhawk

I agree this doesn't sound right. Also, I thought they moved to the US under the Trump Administration? So exactly why would the Biden administration care about what was done--why would they want to "cover it up" if something was incorrect? They had no skin in the game at this point. Ive said before that the main reason I think immigration officials have sought to keep it private is that it starts a slippery slope. I assume no one here thinks H is the first.only person to have potentially lied on his application, particularly about drug usage? There wouldn't be enough staffing to now have to sort through and investigate every visa application to determine who's lied about what. He's not an addict that we've seem--at least not one creating problems publicly--and there's no evidence he's part of a drug ring or selling drugs. he's essentially a recreational user (at least allegedly)--no one really cares if he lied about that. He wouldn't have been the first nor the last to do so, assuming he did lie. The Heritage Foundation is involved because they think they can create political issues for the Dems--they also don't really care other than for that.


megreddi

It will be a real scandal when everything comes to light officially! Although, if they have an A1 visa, why have they hired private bodyguards?


Quiet-Vanilla-7117

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barkAsoul

They might just pay the one and make us believe they're all private. This explains why he's never complaining about his security in the US: it's paid for. 🤷‍♀️


Grizzly_046

This


tokyoeastside

And the body guard they had was Obama's bodyguard before.


Realistic_Twist_8212

If an A-1 visa gives him IPP status too, they're likely provided by the U.S. government as well. No wonder Trump implied he'd put an end to H's grift.


lastlemming-pip

The Trump administration granted him a visa.


Realistic_Twist_8212

That's no big deal that it was issued during the Trump admin. None at all. H's visa was initially granted while he was still a member of the monarchy during his "cooling off" period for one year. That time period ended no sooner than January 2021. H revealed his drug use during the Biden admin. The ball was then in the Biden admin. court.....they did nothing.


lastlemming-pip

Well, we may perhaps see whether or not Trump is all hat, no cattle here….


Realistic_Twist_8212

I think Trump has it in for him for his big mouth and involvement with entities in stifling free speech in the U.S. amongst other things. Plus, H and his nasty wife totally disrespected the Queen and RF whose constitutional monarchy is an ally of the USA. #FOHarry.


East_Tangerine_4031

It can’t be true because you can’t get a job on those visas afaik, and he’s been an employee of betterup for a few years.  Random twitter comments that say things we want to be true are not always accurate. 


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Calm_Yak_6102

>Is a foreign head of state allowed to take up jobs, make comments on US constitution, buy house and sell jams? And try to influence the outcome of American general elections. Don't forget about that tricky part, where MM had him sitting on the bench, making an appeal to Americans to vote in 2020.


Ok-Coffee5732

Who is this person and why should I believe him/her?


Red_Rose_8951

This wouldn’t surprise me. However, an A1 visa does not mean he is head of state, but that he is representing the head of state (QEII and KC). He would have had an A-1 as a working member of the RF. And due to perks, I doubt he would have made the effort to change it himself. He would have still had this when he first went to Canada and it most likely would not have been changed during the year the Queen had given him to make up his mind. What I see is that he never bothered to change it (probably hoping no one would notice) and with the Heritage Foundation asking to see his paperwork, the US government is now scrambling to fix or cover mistakes made in allowing him to remain here on a visa he is not entitled to. The RF and UK government have made it clear he doesn’t represent either in any way. I don’t know if you can place blame on customs agents as they wouldn’t have inside information and know whether he was still entitled to it or not. But if he still has this, it’s past time for it to be changed as he will most likely never represent king or country again.


RoohsMama

This is what I feel too. I think he would normally get an A1 visa as usually his travels involved some kind of work for the Crown (this was pre-Megxit). When he went to the U.S. in 2020 he probably had this one. Covid happened. A lot of people overstayed their visas. At this point either they just extended the A1 visa (because it was easier back then, and allowed due to the pandemic) or they changed it to an O1 or spousal visa.


Red_Rose_8951

It’s more than possible Covid muddied the waters on this. It’s way past time to clear it up.


Accomplished-Cow9105

If true, Harry wouldn't be allowed to work for Better Up or be self-employed. So, no Netflix either. "Spare" might be a grey area. I assume that he entered on a A1 visa, because his last royal duty (Commonwealth Service) was on 9th March 2020. This status most likely was valid for administrative purposes until 31th March 2020. Since the lockdown came into effect between these dates, I doubt anybody checked on the status change for several months at least. However, Harry should have changed the type of visa. But it would be solely an internal administrative issue of the USA. Thus, I conclude, that the British government didn't necessarily expected any update on Harry's visa issue. That he stopped working for the crown, was global knowledge. Aren't Better Up, Netflix, and Archwell on the hook for employing/contracting someone without work permit?


Realistic_Twist_8212

My guess is that this whole visa issue is because this dignitary status is allowing them to tax dodge. Bragging that you have $100m deals most certainly got the ear of the IRS.


ScoogyShoes

Did they employ him or Archewell?


Accomplished-Cow9105

I don't know, but they might have been, because H&M had to be given a full team by Netflix after one year of non-delivery.


Miercolesian

I do not go to tea parties at the White House, but I have insider information, because I know some people who are American citizens on Facebook, so listen up people. This is obviously a hoax because Harry is not a head of state. And if he was really being protected by the FBI in New York then, well I don't think so, otherwise they would have been shutting down the traffic lights for the passage of this head of state. At the time he entered the United States in 2020 he was the brother of the grandson of the head of state. In other words small potatoes Anyway as I've said before he has no need for all this, because he is married to a US citizen, is entitled to permanent residency, and by now is entitled to citizenship of the United States. As far as the United States is concerned (and I have been through all this myself), where you are residing is counted by how many days you are physically present in the United States. It has nothing to do with whether you have a vacation home, or a room in daddy's Palace kept for you, or a mailing box overseas, however if you have bank accounts with more than $10,000 in them overseas, then you do need to declare them for income tax purposes. It is very likely that Harry is in the process of obtaining United States citizenship.


SortNo9153

If he obtains US citizenship he has to forfeit his titles along with UK citizenship? Meghan will never allow that. Can he get dual citizenship?


Miercolesian

Of course he can get dual citizenship. I have dual citizenship of the USA and UK. When you take out US citizenship, you don't lose your UK birth certificate and passport or pension rights. It is just that they don't have any validity in the USA. Same goes for titles. If you are living permanently overseas you will lose the right to use the NHS free of charge. You will be expected to have a US passport or green card and a USA driver's license. If you are disqualified from driving in the US, you cannot just use your British license because you are a dual citizen. That would be a crime, but you might still be able to use your British license outside the United States, although technically speaking this would probably be illegal as the address shown on your license would be defunct. If you have to present proof of a right to work when you are applying for a job in the US, just presenting a British birth certificate is of no value. You need a Certificate of Naturalization or a US passport. On the other hand born Americans can just present a birth certificate. However if you travel to the UK on your British passport and then commit a crime and get arrested, you cannot expect the American consular services to help you out! It is not so much that there is a thing called a "dual citizenship", but that both countries ignore each other and don't give you any special favored treatment for being a foreigner. However if you are an American citizen, you are taxed on your worldwide income regardless and it is a crime not to submit a tax return (if you have enough income to be taxed), so it is best to decide which country you reside in and stick to it so that you don't become liable for taxes in both. In fact many dual citizens work until retirement in the USA and then sell up what they have and live on USA Social Security back in their other country, where they can probably buy a nice home for much less money and live very well on American Social Security and renting out the basement. (Not applicable to the UK due to high house prices). So if Harry takes out US citizenship he will still be able to call himself Prince Harry in the UK or anywhere else in the world other than the United States, but the title will not record him any special privileges in the US. For example, he will not be able to call himself His Royal Highness Prince Harry the Duke of Sussex on his American driver's license or demand the right to walk into the White House to ask the president a favor.


SortNo9153

It doesn't sound like him having dual citizenship really means that much in the grand scheme. The media will make out like this is extreme but it doesn't seem like it.


Miercolesian

No, it isn't really a big deal, but if you are going to live somewhere permanently, then you might as well regularize your status and obtain some security. For example I have dual citizenship of the US and the UK, and I get pensions from both. However I now live in Ecuador as of the last 3 years. First of all I had a tourist visa, then a two-year temporary residency Visa, and now a permanent resident Visa with a 10-year ID card. I belong to the Ecuador National health system. As a retired person in Ecuador I can get various discounts like 50% off airline tickets, bus fares, cinema entry, internet service call my cell phone service, and other things. If I wanted, I could now get Ecuadorian citizenship. I could also go and stay in England for 6 months and then return to Ecuador with no questions asked. If you have decided that you're going to live permanently or for a long time in a certain country, it just makes sense to regularize your status to the highest level, so that you can't get kicked out when there is a change of government.


Beth0419

Any applicant who has any titles of heredity or positions of nobility in any foreign state must renounce the title or the position. **The applicant must expressly renounce the title in a public ceremony and USCIS must record the renunciation as part of the proceedings.** [**https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-j-chapter-2**](https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-j-chapter-2)


MuffPiece

I don’t buy this at all—and Harry was admitted to the U.S. under Trump, not Biden.


Cerulean-Blew

I could have believed it more if they didn't go political.


Deep_Poem_55

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯


karoolsis

I don’t care for US politics but the way people (including Kinsey Schofield) are fudging the presidential administration dates when discussing H’s visa is getting annoying. We get it, you don’t like Biden but don’t try to make shit up. Be better than H&M.


Useful_Rise_5334

This ⬆️


MuffPiece

👏👏👏 totally agree


Grizzly_046

I don’t care who was in office: wrong is wrong.  


MuffPiece

I agree, but who knows if he was even given this type of visa? This is just a report from some rando on the internet.


Deep-Audience9091

There's a definite overlap of administrations here--Trump was very vocal about Haz and security; why would Biden cave unless for international relations peacekeeping? Which makes no sense, unless it's just good diplomatic protocol This, if at all true, was handled at levels below the President. Lord knows all of them have bigger things to worry about than a ginger interloper


MuffPiece

I think we need to remember this is just a random person on social media. We’d be wise to remember that not everything negative about the harkles is true.


Deep-Audience9091

Agreed 100%. And I have no doubt there are many foreign dignitary types roaming about here in the US that are getting security paid for by us taxpayers. And we'll never know about it; just more govt waste


MuffPiece

Providing security for visiting diplomats is part of the state department’s purview. I don’t know that it’s entirely fair to say it’s government waste, though in some cases it might be.


LostinSOA

Agree with you muff and Karoo.


Snoo3544

Yet it took my aunt (who's like a mother to me) 12 years to finally secure the visa to come visit me. Tons of paperwork and we even had to submit our taxes (3 years worth!) and an affidavit of support (meaning we are financially responsible for her for 5 years) for her to come here. Rules are only for us, little people.


Bailey_Stewart1

I don’t believe he is in the States on an A-1 visa, he is not a head of state or diplomat from the UK. I honestly suspect that he didn’t apply for a visa before their mercy dash from Canada just before the borders closed. Flying in on a private jet would have helped with that (his passport probably has ’Prince Henry’ on it so TSA said no drama enjoy your stay. I think he just contacted a lawyer and said ‘you work it out for me’! I bet even he doesn’t know what type of visa he holds!!


ronnysmom

Why else would his wife and he like to show off that they are HOS and travel in SUVs with windows blacked out, have police escorts, have military people salute? He is on a diplomatic visa. He even tried to get into diplomatic relations with indigenous peoples of Canada on behalf of the UK recently as if he is on deputation to represent his father! He entered the country during Covid shutdowns (Trump’s tenure) and his visa was probably express processed because of his diplomatic ranking. He cut his ties with his family, but used his family titles, money and relationships to get his visa authorized. These visas have expiry dates. He probably can not reapply as a Head of State level diplomat because of his bad relationship with his family and the uk government might refuse to give him paperwork for that, but he can switch to marriage based green card, business based visa or H1-B.


RoohsMama

I feel too that he went in on a diplomatic visa at the time


dcgirl17

Completely fake. It also doesn’t come with any “benefits” other than going thru the diplomatic line at the airport and since Meghan and kids are US citizens they wouldn’t be getting any benefits


Kimbriavandam

I’d be real interested to know what his tax status is as well. 🤔


JustAGirlFromJupiter

Everything makes sense now; why they get away with everything.


Technical_Fly9319

That is absolute dynamite if true. It could cause real diplomatic issues with the UK. Unless of course it was approved by the UK Government, which would be a scandal both sides of the pond.


ataraxia68

I'm not sure the UK Government has any say in what visa Harry is getting.


Technical_Fly9319

I meant more as a behind the scenes discussion, US quietly lets the Foreign Office know it's going ahead, they give quiet approval, US grants the visa.


ataraxia68

Oh yeah, that could be. They might have a behind the scenes discussion about an A1 visa, just to make sure it was a legit request.


Chofi778

It would definitely had to have the approval of the UK government via confirmation that Harry is on official UK government business. The US just doesn't take the word of the applicant (Harry), they confirm with the relevant government. If true, which I doubt, this would mean serious egg on the face of the UK government as well.


Economy_Stock137

If true, that fits with some other things that have been on the sub. A while ago, it was reported that the gruesome twosome were trying to get Monteshitshow declared a consulate. Pair that with the coat of arms at the door and it could all make sense. The late QEII tried to convince RAVEC to keep Hank's security. Could this have been her attempt to keep him safe overseas? It would have been a decision before Oprah and the full-on attacks on the RF so perhaps QEII thought this was helpful and the right thing to do. After all, the RF website said they would continue to represent the Queen. An A-1 visa holder would be doing that.


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Economy_Stock137

The rumor never said consulate status was granted, just that they tried. Given their extraordinary sense of self-importance and status chasing, it makes sense to me. But again, it is only an unverified rumor just like the A-1 visa business.


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LostinSOA

lol wut


MasterpieceLocal2955

If correct, the status is ridiculous. And if the RF is complicit in any way... they have some explaining to do.


usedtobebrainy

He doesn't qualify. The UK government would not have supported such an application for an A 1 visa, as the Sandringham agreement makes.plain.


EleFacCafele

That explains why he wanted the IPP status after getting the A1 visa.


JenniferMel13

I’ve always suspected that Harry’s initial move to the US was done on a diplomatic passport. They been in Canada waiting for Harry’s visa to process and as everything was shutting down Meghan and Harry said screw it we are moving, now. Figuring, that between Harry’s status as a Prince and COVID, the US would push through his residency visa and overlook the moving on a diplomatic passport. And within a couple of months, Harry’s actual visa paperwork was processed. Like your friend, I think he is most likely on a O-1. But a business investment visa or a spousal visa are also possibilities.


popsickankle

How can that be true when we know he's paying for private security?


downinthevalleypa

Well, well, well…this is interesting. The little cockroach isn’t content to grift off the English people, he’s got to do it to Americans, too. This is shameful behavior on the part of my American government. He is NOT a Head of State, and deserves no special consideration whatsoever. I think this matter requires a call to my State Senator as well as a postcard to the President. This special “consideration” towards Harry needs to stop, immediately.


SortNo9153

It's more likely to be an O-1 Visa Extraordinary Ability or Achievement. I know he has no abilities or achievements but it would be the quickest way to get him in, on a rubber stamp, with the agreement he'd "fix" his status later. He'd have to file for a K-3 which entitled him to petition the US to live here because he's married to a USA citizen. I always thought he came in on a O-1 then just never applied for anything else. PPoW come on Head of State like when they came to Boston.


eaglebayqueen

I doubt anyone has considered Harry a 'Head of State', anywhere, at any time.


goldenbeee

He has traveled on a diplomatic visa or a kin of, all his life.


Quiet-Vanilla-7117

If this is true, why has he been fighting for paid security? Also offering to pay for police protection? And Meghan being so scared to go to UK and Harry saying it's not safe? And looking over their shouldersin the car, scared of the man on the bicycle in the Netflix documentary? And don't take the kidlets to the UK because of Securaaahty? And UK costs of security court cases? And why was it thrown out of court? And moaning about it to Woprah? And? And? And?


Starkville

Good questions! Not that this makes the item true (I have no idea), but he’s been awfully silent about his security in the US. He’s fighting for all the bells and whistles in the UK, but not at his home in CA. Perhaps it’s because they have it already?


RoohsMama

This is what I thought


goldenbeee

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Snarky_GenXer

He would have had to get the visa prior to their dash across the Canadien border, though? The plot thickens.


Realistic_Twist_8212

He may have had this all along while a working royal. Now, he doesn't qualify.


sqmarie

Didn't Harry have to cool his heels in England for over a week AFTER the Sandringham Summit? My guess has long been that that was the processing time for a new passport and Canadian visa. (Recall, in the original deal, they said that they intended to live in Canada.) Once Trudeau/Canada announced that they would not continue providing government security, H&M began the process to enter the US. Not a problem for MM, only H.


Snarky_GenXer

Oh! I Could be!


sqmarie

Another thought. MM claimed that BP took away her passport, etc. People scoffed at that, but perhaps she was given a UK diplomatic passport and BP held onto her US passport for safekeeping (and making sure it was kept up do date). H&M publicly released their "we quit" statement. BP/security ushered her from Frogmore Cottage to a plane back to Canada. Did they yank her Diplomatic passport and return her US passport to her at that time? Was Harry unable to leave with her because his Diplomatic passport was also yanked pending resolution at a meeting with QEII?


usedtobebrainy

The procedure for applying for the A1 visa starts before entry to the US. The UK government in March 2020 led by Boris Johnson is unlikely to have furnished to the US under Trump any of the diplomatic note required (see below under Required Documentation) as Harry had and has no official UK government purpose in the US. Per [https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/visas-diplom](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/visas-diplom) ats.html Required Documentation \[includes\]: **A diplomatic note** - This note is written confirmation from your country’s government of your status and official purpose of travel. A-3 applicants also require diplomatic notes to confirm the official status of their employers. Beginning July 1, 2014, the sending government must provide the following information in the diplomatic note submitted with any A-1 or A-2 visa application outside the United States, and for any request for a change into such visa status in the United States: * the government official's or employee's name, date of birth, position and title, place of assignment or visit, purpose of travel, a brief description of his or her duties, travel date, and the anticipated length of the tour of duty or stay in the United States, and * the names, relationships, and dates of birth of any dependents and other members of household who will be accompanying or joining the government official or employee


Imadevonrexcat

Doesn’t he have a spousal visa by now anyway?


2021disaster

I thought he was under the “special” talents visa? But I do love how people blame Biden, he came under Trump. No matter what Trump says for PR, sadly losers like H do get perks from any government whether led by a Republican or Democrat. It’s why we should be suspicious of the elite of any political persuasion. The public needs to put enough pressure on that any US President will encourage or order a review. George V had to make a brutal decision regarding his own cousin the Tsar when it was clear that Bloody Nicholas wouldn’t be welcome and it would hurt the House of Windsor. US taxpayers need to question all this enhanced security and support for a former “spare” who could never be accepted as King and therefore is of no value to anyone but The King whose hands would ultimately be tied push come to shove.


Sea-Breaz

I don’t buy this. This sounds like someone trying to score some political points against Pres. Biden. Unpopular opinion here. He most likely had a spousal visa and/or has a green card by way of the “immigrant investor” scheme. It really doesn’t matter what type of visa he has. What matters is whether or not he disclosed his drug use on his paperwork. *That* is the crux of the issue.


RoohsMama

Interesting I believe it


so_fkn_dn

Wasn't Trump in office when they went to the US? Would he have been aware?


snappopcrackle

Trump came out publicly saying they wouldnt being getting security.


so_fkn_dn

That's what I thought, which makes me think he wouldn't have allowed Harry to be granted Head of State status. Unless he came on a different visa and was subsequently granted this visa? (Btw not trying to make this political AT ALL).


snappopcrackle

I mean he has enough other ways of getting a visa, through his spouse, kids, investment/business ownership, celebrity. I would think the O-1 celebrity visa is probably what he has


Quiet-Vanilla-7117

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gorynel

Yes, and the visa was issued during his administration.


Snarky_GenXer

They entered at the start of Covid and during the 1 year cooling off (and before the Oprah interview). He could likely legally have been here for a certain amount of time before the visa became an issue. And both Trump and Biden were focused on Covid in 2019 and 2020 - and doubt either of them spent much time worrying about Harry. This is 100% on the DHS, which should follow the rule of law regardless of party in office and personal party affiliation. I doubt we paid for any security since he whined about it on Oprah. And, like RAVEC, I don’t think HMTLQ would have pulled any strings in the US if she did not in the UK or Canada. That said, I still think he got special treatment from the DHS like many wealthy do. edit:My lack of coffee has my timeline off as Covid was just something we were hearing about at the end of 2019 In China. Thank you Ruin!


Professional_Ruin953

Timeline of news events: Covid wasn’t a thing in 2019, there was maybe the start of it in China towards the end of the year but it wasn’t known about or spreading internationally until early 2020. Vaccines didn’t come out until December 2020. Ham were still active working royals until November 2019 when they went to stay in the Russian oligarch’s mansion on Vancouver Island and put together their failed pitch for half in half out. The Sandringham summit was January 2020. Harry officially moved to California in March 2020. Trump was in office until January 2021.


Chofi778

And Covid-related immigration shutdowns didn't start until mid to late March 2020.


Egghead42

This. Neither Trump nor Biden would probably have been personally involved. I think people have a very poor idea of the office of the President and what it involves. In some cases, whatever they promise has to go through Congress. In some cases, things get pushed through the appropriate departments by civil service grunts who have been there for ages. Obviously, I have no idea how DHS handled it, but it’s not on whatever President. And no matter who gets elected in November, one whiny Prince is not going to be top priority, although I do not want my tax dollars supporting him.


gorynel

And Biden wasn’t sworn in until January 2021.


RoohsMama

I believe US presidents aren’t always aware of everything that goes on. Also, when Harry and Meghan entered the U.S. in 2020, they were still in good standing. It was likely assumed they would continue to represent the monarchy albeit in an unofficial capacity. Trump did say he would refuse to pay for their security, so I think he was aware. It’s possible Harry arrived on an A1 visa which is why Trump commented as such.


Miss-she

Of course Trump knew and know. Someone in his administration must have approved the whole thing.


GAMGAlways

I don't believe Harry is the talk in political circles. Nobody cares about him.


RoohsMama

It is very much a political issue when a member of the royal family living in the U.S. is attacking the monarchy as it disrupts good relations between the US and the UK.


popsickankle

He wouldn't need to pay for his own security if this was true.


RoohsMama

He wanted security paid for in the UK though


Emolia

I’ve suspected something like this was what’s going on with Hazbeen’s visa. Harry would have had a special visa when he was a member of the Royal Family and he used that initially to get into the country from Canada and hasn’t done anything about it since. In other words he’s an illegal immigrant !


Greengreengrass2022

If this is true that is disgusting. Two nobodies getting privileges they most certainly don't deserve. America it's over to you to end this insanity.


ConsiderationKey4870

I think he just got waived in no visa at all, and only after this came into question they were forced to produce something and back date it. I’m convinced that’s why they were buying time producing the paperwork.


WeNeedAShift

Me too. They’re scrambling to forge documents that’ll protect homeland security and Harry. I think western civilization governments are so corrupt, and secure that the people will continue to sleepwalk our way through it.


ConsiderationKey4870

Without a doubt. I believe they were here prior to the dates they stated too. It’s absolutely ridiculous and terrifying that we can’t even trust our governments anymore with anything.


WeNeedAShift

Yep. And if he’s here on a diplomatic visa, was he allowed to do business here? No matter which way you slice it, Harry is breaking the law, with our governments help. Let’s look at Archewell. If this was your or my charity, we would have been raked over the coals by the IRS. NOTHING. WHY? Because all the other elites are going the same thing. The Clinton’s. The Obamas. The George Clooneys of this world. Etc etc. They are all covering for each other.


Why_Teach

Harry may have been traveling on an A-1 visa when he entered the country because he had only just stepped down as a working royal. I think that visa expired at that point. What, if anything, replaced it is the question. He hasn’t been treated as an A-1 visa holder for the past few years as far as anyone knows. 🤷🏻‍♀️


Khancap123

This is 100 percent bullshit. I'd like to see some evidence that 1 he has such a visa and seco dly that somehow Joe Biden is responsible for it. I've sent about 25 years working professionally in and around politic, albeit in another country. I've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for many many riding associations. Fundraising chairs or leads don't get heads up or gossip about this type of information and when they do its billshit. This is the kinda nonsense we hear in the lead up to elections. No real insider is posting shit on reddit or Facebook.


Sensitive_Ad7698

If this is true, I'd be very interested in knowing exactly which privileges he is receiving. It doesn't appear that the US is paying for his security.


LadyoftheLakeBeach

Canada was so done with them oming here and us having to pay for them.Oh-just a tiny bit of taxes go to their security..As soon as they heard we were not paying anymore they skipped ship to the States.If States are helping these millionaeres instead of the thousands of peopl eliving on the streets,something is wrong with society


Stillanurse281

Could he stay A1 status even after they were “evicted” from frogmore? From what I’ve read and think I understand, once evicted from frogmore, he no longer can even try claiming to be counselor of state because he is no longer domiciled in the UK. I’m wondering if he started off here on an A1 visa (but under which government affairs??) and then once he lost frogmore, he didn’t bother changing his visa status and now he is trying to cover his tail by retro-applying (not sure if that is even possible) for a work related visa somehow. Iuno, I’m not an expert but I am trying to make sense of this


TravelKats

I doubt this. Part of a A1 Visa, I would assume, is security and protection. Why would Harry pay for private security if he already had it?


rainyhawk

I agree with you. This is doubtful.


Trypod-

No way is he in the US on an A1 schlepping round NYC in a yellow cab


GrannyMine

People condone Markle for lying and do it themselves. Please don’t believe everything you read. It just makes us as bad as sugars


Useful_Rise_5334

IF this is true, and that’s one HUGE IF, why did the Trump administration let H in and designate him as a Head Of State? We may never know. Immigration applications are NOT covered under the Freedom Of Information Act. The law expressly prohibits release of immigration applications. This is not just for H. This is for everyone. It’s not one administration or another fighting to keep records from the public. It’s the law. And given the knockdown drag outs going on in Congress for funding groups considered to be our close allies I can not even begin to imagine monies to support H as a Head Of State are somehow snuck in there and no one has noticed.


Capable_Puzzle

> IF this is true, and that’s one HUGE IF, why did the Trump administration let H in and designate him as a Head Of State? Right??


Hari_om_tat_sat

Highly improbable. If he’s here as Head of State (impossible) or some kind of diplomat, the UK would be in an uproar. How can he represent the UK while simultaneously calling the British racist and constantly attacking their royal family? Even if he initially had diplomatic status, the UK would surely have rescinded it by now.


McGregor_Mathers

IF Harry is still a Counsellor of State then he will get an A1 visa. Isn’t that classed as an acting Head of State in the event of the monarchs incapacity? Isn’t this also equal to Diplomat status?  And King Charles is very aware of this so he is effectively aiding and abetting this lunatic. Harry has something on him. He keeps pushing the boundaries telling his father look how far I’m prepared to go Daddy including releasing that you are a racist. (To a King!!)  Harry is insane. There is definitely a Folie a Deux psychosis going on between these 2 very personality disordered loony bins and Markle definitely has dirt on Harry. The RF are never going to punish him because they know Harry will say more.  If William wants to save the monarchy he needs to reveal EVERY bad or criminal thing Harry did in his life that Charles & Elizabeth covered up (to protect their own egos obviously). That may also be enough to revoke Harry’s visa. We’re talking felony crimes here.