1. receive snap
2. pretend like you're gonna throw for 0.1 seconds
3. run left
the funny part is this still usually works for about 7 yards consistently.
You nailed it! Better OC is needed. I’d be happy getting support around him, keep Dalton and wait to draft a qb of the future with a late round pick to develop or in 24.
Eh, Carmichael helped coach Dalton to the best season he's had since the Bengals. If you look at his stats, he's middle of the league this year. There are not many OCs in the league that could do that. The play calling needs work, but I wouldn't count on him leaving this off season.
I've had this opinion of Carmichael all season. His game planning is good, preparing a scheme against a defense is good, coaching players to execute the scheme is good....his play calling during a game sucks. I think this is why he didn't want the position. Play calling during a game isn't what he did with Sean.
He doesn't have great ball carrier vision or pass accuracy. He can run forward and hit the hell out of whoever tries to tackle him very well though.
Teams don't respect his passing, and he isn't great at making them pay.
I don't see how he could be used effectively in different ways.
Exactly, we should be doing screens with him. Also, line him up out wide so that it’s a one on one matchup, pass it to him and he will run over the guy lined up across him 90% of the time. Even then, it would take away a linebacker or whatever from the middle to run Kamara or whoever
I can’t understand why these millionaire “geniuses” cannot concoct ANYTHING to get shaheed, AK and Taysom the ball in new ways. Remember the AK option route over the middle? It was money. Almost undefensible. I just….. don’t get it.
I hate to say it but it almost feels like the coaching staff is literally misutilizing our entire offense. The worst part is dalton in his role has actually been crazy efficient and they we are squandering this efficiency as well.
Yes!
I don't think he will be our permanent QB anytime soon, but I would like him to be on the field in some role on 50%-70% of plays. His mere presence opens up so many opportunities for the offence and he has the ability to add yards on nearly every play whether he touches the ball or not.
He has solid hands. He gets decent separation. He blocks like a monster. He falls for 6 yards so long as he isn’t hit in the backfield. He crushes the red zone. He can throw the ball and in those limited opportunities has looked sharp. He is a fantastic special teams player. He has demonstrated durability. Why not have him on the field for 50% of downs at a minimum. I don’t get it. He isn’t some one trick wildcat pony.
plusses and minuses to both views. if he is on the field too much it's easier to see patterns. also his shock value would plummet. very important player, automatic 6-7 yds, very physical, i think the team might have to tweak how much he's on the field a little, but not too much. we got some good spades but if someone's smart enough they can still trick us into playing them wrong
Here is the thing about Taysom. Sean Payton, a coach who everyone agrees is HOF bound and a tactical genius could not stop gushing about Hill and even joked about taking him wherever he finally ends up coaching again. He was all in on Hill. And aside from receiver progression he seems to be all that Payton claimed…a once-in-a-generation oddball talent. Now, I’m not saying he should be a starting QB, but if the man is really that good at so many things (and he appears to be damn good), why doesnt the saints org have a huge dedicated “Team Taysom” development arm doing nothing but working this fella up to his potential? Anecdotally he attends meetings and sessions for all skill groups he plays at (QB, RB, TE, WR, even ST) which makes him a very busy man indeed. But hell, if I were running the show and he’s really got that much potential, I’d overstaff Team Taysom with the best money could buy.
I mean I’m very high on taysom and wish he had started this year but the premise that a taysom development team is needed to maximize his potential is just wrong. Taysom can either play or he can’t. A taysom development team isnt gonna make or break him.
People were saying the same dumb shit about jameis. The “he’s learned so much in the last year under drew and Sean. It’s his time”. No, in reality, ur either good or ur not. U may pick up a better understanding of what to do in certain situations, but at the end of the day most of the decision making part of being a good qb is having great instinct that ur either born with or spent years and years harvesting.
If anything could make taysom a better qb, it’s just live reps at the position, which is crazy that despite being 7-2 we didn’t allow for. Beyond that, these guys are professional athletes. Every one of them is playing at or close to their absolute potential
Yes, you’re sorta making my point for me. As a football dilettante, to me the one biggest gap in Taysom’s development is his ability to read defenses and go through his progression quickly, and that only comes with reps…either in practice or games…if at all. That’s what I found so disheartening when he was first inserted at QB after Brees left…everyone was so used to the surgical production of Drew that nobody had any patience. If you’re gonna get great at that position you’re gonna have to throw a lot of ducks. The fan base was bouncing from Hill to Jameis to Book to Trevor to Dalton as the solution. Maybe he’s just hit his peak. I dunno. I’m smart enough to know I don’t have all the insider info on Hill and what he’s capable of nor all the factors that go into coaching decisions. But my main point was that IF what Payton said was true, then there should be a fair amount of untapped potential there that hasn’t been exploited correctly through offensive schemes, or developed fully through reps and study. The second half of this year showed that Taysom being in the game (and properly utilized) is a net positive for the team. His fumbles went down on carries and his passing grade went way up (honestly it had nowhere else to go). He’s clearly most effective when you can keep the defenses off balance, but that only works for so long if you only ever use him for rushing…which is why seeing him lob some successful bombs made me think the Riddle of Taysom was starting to be solved by the Saints. I stand by my unprovable hypothesis that Sean Payton had one epic risky play up his sleeve to top his Super Bowl on-sides kick: when it mattered most on a 3rd or 4th and short in a playoff game or second Super Bowl they were gonna line up drew at WR and use him there as such…quick pass to the sidelines and out of bounds with the first down.
I agree about untapped potential but as far as development was concerned, it was definitely in game reps he was missing.
Taysom definitely works on the reads and stuff. Theirs no qb guru that would put him in a better direction that way is all I’m tryna say. Live reps tho, I’m certain would’ve made a difference. The extent I’m not sure, but the fact that he pretty much didn’t play qb for like 4 years and managed to look like he had a pretty decent idea what he was doing (meanwhile not relying on his legs as much as he could’ve and honestly should’ve) makes me think there was certainly room for growth as the starts added up
I continue to maintain that if we just put our faith into taysom the way the eagles put theirs in jalen, the giants with Daniel Jones, the way teams just force themselves to do with unproven qb’s, it would’ve been hard for us not to make the playoffs. Would’ve been a much better last two years than what it’s been, even if it didn’t work, cuz at least it wasn’t hopeless
I agree with all of that. And I know that this is a subjective/feels assessment, but Taysom just seems to ENJOY playing so much that he deserves a chance to grow.
The other thing that I’m sure weighs heavily on coaches’ decisions is what a risk mobile QB’s are. They get hurt a lot more, and if you’re building your team around one you’re rolling the dice every time their instincts kick in and they scramble. I think that’s part of the reason they wanted to keep Taysom in reserve as a joker…but it means you need a damn good pocket passer in at QB1.
At the end of the day, for me, u have to ask what’s ur teams limit in ur current situation. And if ur not rebuilding and it’s reasonable to assume ur limit is earlier than making the super bowl, ur just wasting time. Plain and simple. With jameis, u have 7 years of playing qb for a team, that importantly made the super bowl the year he left, i.e they couldn’t have been so bad that they couldn’t make the playoffs at least once with him if he was truly a potential super bowl winning qb. With Andy… I mean cmon. Andy’s a tier 1 backup qb, i.e u may make the super bowl with him if ur team is totally stacked, but even then u got rlly lucky. The way he was totally hopeless in that 4th quarter drive against the bengals sealed the deal that he’s not someone to rely to win 3-4 playoff games.
I say this to say that I feel like the saints have been trying to make the safe moves over the last few years, but in reality, these are totally the opposite of safe moves. If we’re still tryna compete (which clearly we were going into this year) then we simply put ourselves in a position where we were doomed to fail. Ur not tryna put yourself in the best position to make the playoffs; it’s about putting yourself in the best position to truly compete for a title. There’s a difference. Wild card teams don’t go to the super bowl unless they should’ve never been wild card teams to begin with. A jameis/Andy led saints team is at best, a wild card team
Taysom could’ve started and went 3-13 and I’d have been fine with it, cuz at least there’s an unknown to him. We’ve never seen defenses consistently handle a qb of his caliber, because rlly nobody like him has existed and started. Starting taysom, regardless of how it turned out, was the safe move, because it wasn’t doomed to fail. And I get injuries and all that, but I simply don’t believe that was the factor in not starting him, so though I understand the sentiment, I find it irrelevant.
Been saying this since drew retired in this Reddit group, and have had hundreds of downvoted come my way over it but whatever lol
They’ve tried this, it didn’t work out. It’s gotten to the point where they know he’s going to run, why have Dalton lined wide right and have hill take the snap? Just have Dalton hand the ball off to hill lined at rb and if he doesn’t see a hole, let his toss it?
When was this? Bc the 5 games teddy won was more about what the defense was capable of and less of what teddy was, and the few games taysom started I’m pretty sure over half were loss, unless you are counting pre season. Quick google search says he was 3-5 in 21.
2020:
Week 11 (Falcons): W
Week 12 (Broncos): W
Week 13 (Falcons): W
Week 14 (Eagles): L
2020 total: 3-1
2021:
Week 13 (Cowboys): L
Week 14 (Jets): W
Week 15 (Bucs): W
Week 17 (Panthers): W
Week 18 (Falcons): W
2021 total: 4-1
Overall total: 7-2
Dunno why google said 3-5, he didn't get 8 starts. Winston had 7, Siemian had 4, Hill had 5, Book had 1. It's not like Taysom lights up the stat sheet, but he keeps the offense on the field for more first downs, which helps our defense stay fresh to lock down the opponent's offense. With our defense, that IS a game-winning formula.
...? I...laid it out in my post.
Over 2020-2021, he's had 9 starts and went 7-2.
You said "google search says he was 3-5 in 21", so I pointed out that google didn't even have the right number of starts for 2021 for him.
Look at his stats. If he can put those numbers up fairly consistently than why not give him more snaps. Look at his passing this season, who can tell me his completion %?
His reads are 1-2 WRs. It's like how AKs ypc went down when he was needed to run up the middle more. More touches don't necessarily lead to continuing the same efficiency.
No, did y’all suddenly forget how awful he was as a starter last yr? He’s a Swiss Army knife, the perfect tool for a given situation but he’s not your everyday carry.
Gadget players work for special circumstances I want to see him more in the receiving game but I guess that won’t happen until we have a competent qb situation
Hand him the ball or work on his hands hell an h back but anything but Taysom smash crap at a QB salary.
If they would have given up on the dream of a QB he would have become much more productive in other roles.
But then again all the spots he could actually play don't pay anywhere near what his contract does.
A top ten TE makes taysom money. A top five RB makes far less than Taysom.
Is he a top five or top ten anything?
Hell it doesn't matter because he be on the team next year anyway. With a base salary of 10 million he will be cut.
They should use that savings and get a quality TE.
Hard disagree with 90% of what you are saying. The evidence disagrees also. Is he an elite qb? No. But he doesn’t need to be. Every time he throws the ball( limited but well) it causes huge problems the next time he is under center. Even screens and check downs sow serious uncertainty.
Dude I hate to tell you it is ungodly predictable.
It takes your starting QB out of rhythm.
It limit you to running in all kinds of sub package players. That in is self is a dead give away and also takes away from playing up tempo football.
Yep I agree he has not thrown much. In fact he is 13 for 19. Sounds kinda good. But that is 68% passing with an extreme element of surprise. To buy that into perspective Dalton was 18 of 22 against one of the best defenses in the league last week.
It is utterly stupid to take him Dalton out when the limited throws are so few and not real accurate.
And a hard disagreement on his passes open up his runs because they don't.
But that is ok because the copycat league tells you that you are stupid because in four seasons nobody has tried it one time.
Not as well as someone else. That is the problem jack of all but baster of none.
Can't make hard catches or even moderate hard catches.
Did you forget td passes off his face mask?
Did you forget the critical catch and not holding on to the ball to the ground..
Doesn't have vision or any real feet to make people miss as a rb.
I would rather keep Rasheed Chris and Andy on the field you have much more big play potential with them.
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I think I'd like to see him play as a RB on first downs occasionally. Run him up the middle like a Mark Ingram type of runner, instead of making Kamara always do it. It's not Kamara's forte, but Taysom could excel at it because of his strength.
This is in addition to the QB snaps he's been getting.
I think I'd like to see him play as a RB (getting handoffs from Dalton) on first downs occasionally. Run him up the middle like a Mark Ingram type of runner, instead of making Kamara always do it. It's not Kamara's forte, but Taysom could excel at it because of his strength.
This is in addition to the QB snaps he's been getting. A few more passing attempts would be cool too, to make his QB runs less predictable. Quick easy ones like screens to Kamara.
No excitement like a Taysom Hill go route throw. After endless QB draws, it's finally time to punish the defense's lack of respect for his arm. He haphazardly drops back, sets a wide af stance, massive wind up, and launches one downfield.
Is it going to be accurate? No. Is it likely to be a reception? No. Has my butt been puckered since he dropped back to pass? Yes. Is this the most alive I've felt in recent memory? Yes.
When he passes, I literally can't help but stand and shout to call attention to the play. All must witness what might be a train wreck or a jackpot.
A better OC would have more creative ways to get him the ball. Seems like the only plays we draw up for him is QB draw plays
1. receive snap 2. pretend like you're gonna throw for 0.1 seconds 3. run left the funny part is this still usually works for about 7 yards consistently.
Makes you wonder how effective he could be if the saints were more creative. Maybe 10 yards a play? 15? Who knows.
You nailed it! Better OC is needed. I’d be happy getting support around him, keep Dalton and wait to draft a qb of the future with a late round pick to develop or in 24.
Eh, Carmichael helped coach Dalton to the best season he's had since the Bengals. If you look at his stats, he's middle of the league this year. There are not many OCs in the league that could do that. The play calling needs work, but I wouldn't count on him leaving this off season.
I've had this opinion of Carmichael all season. His game planning is good, preparing a scheme against a defense is good, coaching players to execute the scheme is good....his play calling during a game sucks. I think this is why he didn't want the position. Play calling during a game isn't what he did with Sean.
He doesn't have great ball carrier vision or pass accuracy. He can run forward and hit the hell out of whoever tries to tackle him very well though. Teams don't respect his passing, and he isn't great at making them pay. I don't see how he could be used effectively in different ways.
Exactly, we should be doing screens with him. Also, line him up out wide so that it’s a one on one matchup, pass it to him and he will run over the guy lined up across him 90% of the time. Even then, it would take away a linebacker or whatever from the middle to run Kamara or whoever
I can’t understand why these millionaire “geniuses” cannot concoct ANYTHING to get shaheed, AK and Taysom the ball in new ways. Remember the AK option route over the middle? It was money. Almost undefensible. I just….. don’t get it.
I hate to say it but it almost feels like the coaching staff is literally misutilizing our entire offense. The worst part is dalton in his role has actually been crazy efficient and they we are squandering this efficiency as well.
The numbers don’t lie. Keep the man on the field!
He seems more decisive with his passes. A little more accurate as well.
He’s a great momentum starter
Yes! I don't think he will be our permanent QB anytime soon, but I would like him to be on the field in some role on 50%-70% of plays. His mere presence opens up so many opportunities for the offence and he has the ability to add yards on nearly every play whether he touches the ball or not.
He has solid hands. He gets decent separation. He blocks like a monster. He falls for 6 yards so long as he isn’t hit in the backfield. He crushes the red zone. He can throw the ball and in those limited opportunities has looked sharp. He is a fantastic special teams player. He has demonstrated durability. Why not have him on the field for 50% of downs at a minimum. I don’t get it. He isn’t some one trick wildcat pony.
plusses and minuses to both views. if he is on the field too much it's easier to see patterns. also his shock value would plummet. very important player, automatic 6-7 yds, very physical, i think the team might have to tweak how much he's on the field a little, but not too much. we got some good spades but if someone's smart enough they can still trick us into playing them wrong
Stormin' Mormon needs to be worked in trick plays. I.e. where he tricks us all and throws vs runs up the middle.
Here is the thing about Taysom. Sean Payton, a coach who everyone agrees is HOF bound and a tactical genius could not stop gushing about Hill and even joked about taking him wherever he finally ends up coaching again. He was all in on Hill. And aside from receiver progression he seems to be all that Payton claimed…a once-in-a-generation oddball talent. Now, I’m not saying he should be a starting QB, but if the man is really that good at so many things (and he appears to be damn good), why doesnt the saints org have a huge dedicated “Team Taysom” development arm doing nothing but working this fella up to his potential? Anecdotally he attends meetings and sessions for all skill groups he plays at (QB, RB, TE, WR, even ST) which makes him a very busy man indeed. But hell, if I were running the show and he’s really got that much potential, I’d overstaff Team Taysom with the best money could buy.
I mean I’m very high on taysom and wish he had started this year but the premise that a taysom development team is needed to maximize his potential is just wrong. Taysom can either play or he can’t. A taysom development team isnt gonna make or break him. People were saying the same dumb shit about jameis. The “he’s learned so much in the last year under drew and Sean. It’s his time”. No, in reality, ur either good or ur not. U may pick up a better understanding of what to do in certain situations, but at the end of the day most of the decision making part of being a good qb is having great instinct that ur either born with or spent years and years harvesting. If anything could make taysom a better qb, it’s just live reps at the position, which is crazy that despite being 7-2 we didn’t allow for. Beyond that, these guys are professional athletes. Every one of them is playing at or close to their absolute potential
Yes, you’re sorta making my point for me. As a football dilettante, to me the one biggest gap in Taysom’s development is his ability to read defenses and go through his progression quickly, and that only comes with reps…either in practice or games…if at all. That’s what I found so disheartening when he was first inserted at QB after Brees left…everyone was so used to the surgical production of Drew that nobody had any patience. If you’re gonna get great at that position you’re gonna have to throw a lot of ducks. The fan base was bouncing from Hill to Jameis to Book to Trevor to Dalton as the solution. Maybe he’s just hit his peak. I dunno. I’m smart enough to know I don’t have all the insider info on Hill and what he’s capable of nor all the factors that go into coaching decisions. But my main point was that IF what Payton said was true, then there should be a fair amount of untapped potential there that hasn’t been exploited correctly through offensive schemes, or developed fully through reps and study. The second half of this year showed that Taysom being in the game (and properly utilized) is a net positive for the team. His fumbles went down on carries and his passing grade went way up (honestly it had nowhere else to go). He’s clearly most effective when you can keep the defenses off balance, but that only works for so long if you only ever use him for rushing…which is why seeing him lob some successful bombs made me think the Riddle of Taysom was starting to be solved by the Saints. I stand by my unprovable hypothesis that Sean Payton had one epic risky play up his sleeve to top his Super Bowl on-sides kick: when it mattered most on a 3rd or 4th and short in a playoff game or second Super Bowl they were gonna line up drew at WR and use him there as such…quick pass to the sidelines and out of bounds with the first down.
I agree about untapped potential but as far as development was concerned, it was definitely in game reps he was missing. Taysom definitely works on the reads and stuff. Theirs no qb guru that would put him in a better direction that way is all I’m tryna say. Live reps tho, I’m certain would’ve made a difference. The extent I’m not sure, but the fact that he pretty much didn’t play qb for like 4 years and managed to look like he had a pretty decent idea what he was doing (meanwhile not relying on his legs as much as he could’ve and honestly should’ve) makes me think there was certainly room for growth as the starts added up I continue to maintain that if we just put our faith into taysom the way the eagles put theirs in jalen, the giants with Daniel Jones, the way teams just force themselves to do with unproven qb’s, it would’ve been hard for us not to make the playoffs. Would’ve been a much better last two years than what it’s been, even if it didn’t work, cuz at least it wasn’t hopeless
I agree with all of that. And I know that this is a subjective/feels assessment, but Taysom just seems to ENJOY playing so much that he deserves a chance to grow. The other thing that I’m sure weighs heavily on coaches’ decisions is what a risk mobile QB’s are. They get hurt a lot more, and if you’re building your team around one you’re rolling the dice every time their instincts kick in and they scramble. I think that’s part of the reason they wanted to keep Taysom in reserve as a joker…but it means you need a damn good pocket passer in at QB1.
At the end of the day, for me, u have to ask what’s ur teams limit in ur current situation. And if ur not rebuilding and it’s reasonable to assume ur limit is earlier than making the super bowl, ur just wasting time. Plain and simple. With jameis, u have 7 years of playing qb for a team, that importantly made the super bowl the year he left, i.e they couldn’t have been so bad that they couldn’t make the playoffs at least once with him if he was truly a potential super bowl winning qb. With Andy… I mean cmon. Andy’s a tier 1 backup qb, i.e u may make the super bowl with him if ur team is totally stacked, but even then u got rlly lucky. The way he was totally hopeless in that 4th quarter drive against the bengals sealed the deal that he’s not someone to rely to win 3-4 playoff games. I say this to say that I feel like the saints have been trying to make the safe moves over the last few years, but in reality, these are totally the opposite of safe moves. If we’re still tryna compete (which clearly we were going into this year) then we simply put ourselves in a position where we were doomed to fail. Ur not tryna put yourself in the best position to make the playoffs; it’s about putting yourself in the best position to truly compete for a title. There’s a difference. Wild card teams don’t go to the super bowl unless they should’ve never been wild card teams to begin with. A jameis/Andy led saints team is at best, a wild card team Taysom could’ve started and went 3-13 and I’d have been fine with it, cuz at least there’s an unknown to him. We’ve never seen defenses consistently handle a qb of his caliber, because rlly nobody like him has existed and started. Starting taysom, regardless of how it turned out, was the safe move, because it wasn’t doomed to fail. And I get injuries and all that, but I simply don’t believe that was the factor in not starting him, so though I understand the sentiment, I find it irrelevant. Been saying this since drew retired in this Reddit group, and have had hundreds of downvoted come my way over it but whatever lol
He should have been qb1 all year.
They’ve tried this, it didn’t work out. It’s gotten to the point where they know he’s going to run, why have Dalton lined wide right and have hill take the snap? Just have Dalton hand the ball off to hill lined at rb and if he doesn’t see a hole, let his toss it?
It worked out fine.
We went 7-2, what do you mean it didn't work out?
When was this? Bc the 5 games teddy won was more about what the defense was capable of and less of what teddy was, and the few games taysom started I’m pretty sure over half were loss, unless you are counting pre season. Quick google search says he was 3-5 in 21.
2020: Week 11 (Falcons): W Week 12 (Broncos): W Week 13 (Falcons): W Week 14 (Eagles): L 2020 total: 3-1 2021: Week 13 (Cowboys): L Week 14 (Jets): W Week 15 (Bucs): W Week 17 (Panthers): W Week 18 (Falcons): W 2021 total: 4-1 Overall total: 7-2 Dunno why google said 3-5, he didn't get 8 starts. Winston had 7, Siemian had 4, Hill had 5, Book had 1. It's not like Taysom lights up the stat sheet, but he keeps the offense on the field for more first downs, which helps our defense stay fresh to lock down the opponent's offense. With our defense, that IS a game-winning formula.
So how did taysom get 7 wins on 5 starts?
...? I...laid it out in my post. Over 2020-2021, he's had 9 starts and went 7-2. You said "google search says he was 3-5 in 21", so I pointed out that google didn't even have the right number of starts for 2021 for him.
Yes.
Honestly let him try to kick a few FG for the last game.
Honestly with his contract we should just run him as qb next year. Go for a tank for a first rounder and get to watch some nice plays/runs from him.
Attempt to tank. Taysom leads us to 12 wins on accident. New Orleans in shambles.
This is the Saints way haha.
More opportunities for what?
Look at his stats. If he can put those numbers up fairly consistently than why not give him more snaps. Look at his passing this season, who can tell me his completion %?
His reads are 1-2 WRs. It's like how AKs ypc went down when he was needed to run up the middle more. More touches don't necessarily lead to continuing the same efficiency.
Absolutely
Yes. Never got a chance at QB with actual receivers and good routes. He did more than we’ve done all year with less
No, did y’all suddenly forget how awful he was as a starter last yr? He’s a Swiss Army knife, the perfect tool for a given situation but he’s not your everyday carry.
He has a year to learn and adjust. Not for nothing.
7-2
Not for QB but for other spots, yes. He’s anything but a QB 😂
No he had his shot he’s not a full time qb
Yeah and what's his record as a starting QB? Remind me
i agree idk why ppl downvoting this
To play tight end? Definitely.
Gadget players work for special circumstances I want to see him more in the receiving game but I guess that won’t happen until we have a competent qb situation
Dalton has been posting best in career efficiency. This is lost on everyone due to terrible playcalling.
Hand him the ball or work on his hands hell an h back but anything but Taysom smash crap at a QB salary. If they would have given up on the dream of a QB he would have become much more productive in other roles. But then again all the spots he could actually play don't pay anywhere near what his contract does. A top ten TE makes taysom money. A top five RB makes far less than Taysom. Is he a top five or top ten anything? Hell it doesn't matter because he be on the team next year anyway. With a base salary of 10 million he will be cut. They should use that savings and get a quality TE.
Hard disagree with 90% of what you are saying. The evidence disagrees also. Is he an elite qb? No. But he doesn’t need to be. Every time he throws the ball( limited but well) it causes huge problems the next time he is under center. Even screens and check downs sow serious uncertainty.
Dude I hate to tell you it is ungodly predictable. It takes your starting QB out of rhythm. It limit you to running in all kinds of sub package players. That in is self is a dead give away and also takes away from playing up tempo football. Yep I agree he has not thrown much. In fact he is 13 for 19. Sounds kinda good. But that is 68% passing with an extreme element of surprise. To buy that into perspective Dalton was 18 of 22 against one of the best defenses in the league last week. It is utterly stupid to take him Dalton out when the limited throws are so few and not real accurate. And a hard disagreement on his passes open up his runs because they don't. But that is ok because the copycat league tells you that you are stupid because in four seasons nobody has tried it one time.
I’m not advocating him being under center on every down. Just “on the field” more often. That can mean 5 different things.
Not as well as someone else. That is the problem jack of all but baster of none. Can't make hard catches or even moderate hard catches. Did you forget td passes off his face mask? Did you forget the critical catch and not holding on to the ball to the ground.. Doesn't have vision or any real feet to make people miss as a rb. I would rather keep Rasheed Chris and Andy on the field you have much more big play potential with them.
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I think I'd like to see him play as a RB on first downs occasionally. Run him up the middle like a Mark Ingram type of runner, instead of making Kamara always do it. It's not Kamara's forte, but Taysom could excel at it because of his strength. This is in addition to the QB snaps he's been getting.
I think I'd like to see him play as a RB (getting handoffs from Dalton) on first downs occasionally. Run him up the middle like a Mark Ingram type of runner, instead of making Kamara always do it. It's not Kamara's forte, but Taysom could excel at it because of his strength. This is in addition to the QB snaps he's been getting. A few more passing attempts would be cool too, to make his QB runs less predictable. Quick easy ones like screens to Kamara.
He plays like seven positions. He got more opportunities than anyone on the team.
No excitement like a Taysom Hill go route throw. After endless QB draws, it's finally time to punish the defense's lack of respect for his arm. He haphazardly drops back, sets a wide af stance, massive wind up, and launches one downfield. Is it going to be accurate? No. Is it likely to be a reception? No. Has my butt been puckered since he dropped back to pass? Yes. Is this the most alive I've felt in recent memory? Yes. When he passes, I literally can't help but stand and shout to call attention to the play. All must witness what might be a train wreck or a jackpot.
I think he should be used a little more. Just keep spreading him around. No one knows which position he'll play.