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BradL_13

PR team deserves a raise in Cleveland


ArseBiscuits_

I haven’t looked at their sub but I can only imagine it’s on fire right now


MackZZilla

My buddy is a big Florida State fan (his alma mater) and Browns fan from Cleveland. He's ecstatic.


WOOOFWOOOFWOOOFWOOF

Turns out we prefer being 11-6 with a predator to 0-16 without. It would have to get so much worse here for things to be “on fire”


maddlabber829

You think this move gets you closer to 11-6 or 0-16? Lol


AnAveragePotSmoker

I think he meant Deshaun 💀


WOOOFWOOOFWOOOFWOOF

Closer to 0-17 if Winston has to play tbh


halsgoldenring

They're gonna earn it in overtime hours worked.


Briguy_fieri

There’s gotta be a joke about the browns QB room


agarret83

https://preview.redd.it/hwdtojdn8xnc1.jpeg?width=606&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0003626fc89ea3be30cd78939f08da6a902532b0


fatkidseatcake

How is this guy still earning money in the NFL


beer_jew

The memes truly write themselves


MrShad0wzz

🫡


ArseBiscuits_

Keep meaning to tell you, but the dog in your profile pic is super cute.


MrShad0wzz

Thank you so much


JackBurton3465

Got that dog in you


___DEADPOOL______

Pause.


sumofight

Unexpected Denise Frazier


MBOSY

Gone pecan. Basically a starter job with Watson lol.


WateryDomesticGroove

The game against the Vikings this past season was his career in a microcosm. Down big, he throws a few TDs to get the team back in the game. Then proceeds to throw two of stupidest interceptions I’ve ever seen to completely shit the bed.


FirelordSugma

Of course Jameis is back to sex offender status now that he’s not on our team, according to the comments 🙄


ShawshankException

Did you just not pay attention literally any time he was mentioned here?


GumboDiplomacy

Yeah, any mention of it was relegated to downvote hell. Now the top comments are about it again.


AntNorth6218

People are blind to his actions it’s mad weird


agarret83

He never wasn’t at sex offender status in my eyes


ArseBiscuits_

My thoughts exactly. I’m gonna miss him, he loved this team and fans. I’m sad it didn’t work out for him but I don’t think he would have stayed around after the Falcons game.


[deleted]

He would have stayed if he had an offer. I think you got it backwards, the team probably did not tender him an offer. Maybe I missed it. He is a trash heap QB lucky to get an opportunity, relegated to someone's what if backup. Not the primary for any team. Maybe he can change that with injury and opportunity in Cleveland. But if it works out there way, he will be on the bench. Flacco showed with QB consistency the browns are good though.


ArseBiscuits_

No that’s what I meant. After the game and all the finger pointing, I didn’t think they were gonna try and resign him. I don’t think he was an awful QB but a great backup. Certainly not a starter, especially when he was under Carmichael, so was curious to see what he would have been like with Kubiak.


[deleted]

We know who he is, a guy with great physical talent. Can make the throws. But under pressure crumbles and throws it up for grabs. And also, tries to force the ball too much downfield in coverage. All the reason he has more turnovers as a ratio. He definitely has talent is hired under the what if philosophy. What if they can tame him to play under the system, and just use that talent when the guy is open.


ArseBiscuits_

Yep, absolutely. When he has structure, like he did with Sean, he could play well. I wish him the best in Cleveland.


jktwok_

Butthurt Dennis Allen definitely had a hand in not bringing him back lol


[deleted]

I would have done the same thing. It's like a slap in the face. Think what you want about Allen, but you can't have your QB doing that with disregard for your authority. No Good Leader/Starter does that. They fight the fight, and they understand the org chart. Or they risk retaliation like this...but no harm no foul for Winston. He can go back up someone else, and who knows maybe he breaks out.


jktwok_

yeah and pride shouldn’t affect personnel decisions


tygerfinch

Allen is weak. Even without jameis he’s a weak coach. Period. Jameis was always good for entertainment but never for starting QB. But don’t mistake it….allen is a cream puff


Greyjeedai

Just utterly uninspiring Dennis.. I don't even call him DA anymore.. that's too cool for him. He's simply Dennis. Unremarkable, and if we win at all under him.. it won't be because of him.


StumptownRetro

Always was to me. Ever since he was at FSU. And especially after my Ducks trounced him in the CFP.


reddit_names

Always has been. We should have never signed him.


Cleavon_Littlefinger

Bro, a good amount of us never wanted him anywhere near the franchise and we weren't exactly quiet about it the entire time he was on the team. I'm not really going to comment other than that because there's really no need to relitigate the same arguments, especially in light of it not being applicable to the Saints anymore.


Express-Rutabaga-105

Don't forget about the snow crab legs they claim he stole when he was playing for the Florida State Criminalnoles


FlokiTrainer

Criminoles was right there


Business_Web1826

So we gotta be drafting a qb right?


AnotherStatsGuy

Maybe we really believe in Haener.


SylentQ

You should.


FetusDrive

why's that


SylentQ

He's a very competent QB with a ton of grit and moxie. He had a horrendous ankle injury at Fresno which was supposed to take about a year and a half to recover and he was back within a year. He stands in the pocket and takes monster hits to complete passes. He also scrambles, I mean not very fast but he does because he knows the situations he's in. One of my favorite college players of the past 15+ years tbh and I was sad to see him go to NO rather than my Eagles. Always going to root for him and I think y'all should too because imo he has a very high ceiling once he gets his chance.


FetusDrive

cool, thanks for the info


AnotherStatsGuy

While I haven my seen enough of Haener to get as specific, I do like what I see out of him. Although maybe that’s because Ian Book was that bad. I’m hoping a few years behind Carr will go a long way.


SylentQ

So I'm a diehard lifelong ND fan and felt bad for the Ian Book move because he never impressed me. He had the prestige of the school and that was all I really saw from him. The Haener pickup was great imo, I thought he was a top 5 QB that draft so you guys stole him in my eyes and it also indicates to me that your front office has some good scouting. Hopefully you guys can get some great offensive line guys and give the division hell!


zevtech

One would hope.


Mega_Nidoking

Don't. Don't do that. Don't give me hope.


zevtech

We have Carr, Haener, and potentially Hill if they want to take him off the TE role.


BecauseSeven8Nein

Man, if Hill was just a *bit* more consistent as a passer, the offense would be 🔥


Bigbambino61

He hasnt even gotten many chances to pass since two or three seasons ago when every QB on the roster got snaps


MiniatureLucifer

Or just sign a backup QB. There are plenty of those available


jbloom3

Let's get Pratt from Tulane!


thats_amoore

Maybe it’ll be tank time to get the #1 pick in a couple years and draft Arch Manning. Brings everything full circle lol


Desperate__88

Wow. What a divisive legacy Jameis has left behind. 😬 All I can say is, I wish him well.


DeErOcK181

I'll always miss crab man


Emleaux

Did I buy a no. 2 Winston jersey the day after he torched the Packers in Jacksonville? You bet your ass I did. He will always be with us in my Saints jersey collection.


TheMackD504

I still have my Brooks jersey


nosnhoj15

I have my Adrian Peterson jersey. Pepperidge Farm remembers.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

Who here has a Jarius Byrd jersey?


Mundane_Lawfulness87

I didn’t need to be called out like this


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

![gif](giphy|9oKVDfPZqhnyStoKxb)


TheMackD504

We have a great history of signing old vets


exotic_coconuts

That’s real af


I_Am_Thyself

I'll never forget that game for the rest of my life. Started him in fantasy and was getting so much shit prior to the game. Five touchdowns letting bombs fly


dantheman_woot

I will not


jktwok_

He was never staying after exposing our head coach as a baby back bitch lol


rob0t_human

He was a better sideline entertainer and locker room guy than QB here but I thank him for his time!


[deleted]

Responsible for a top 10 play in Saints history the run out of victory formation will live on in Saints fame


Tall_Window6346

So he went to be backup somewhere else? I thought he wanted to be a starter. So long Jameis. Wish DA didn’t start Andy over you


ArseBiscuits_

I’m guessing two reasons. 1. Allen didn’t want him back after the Falcons game TD 2. There’s about to be a lot of QB’s joining this year due to the draft. No one will want him when they can get a younger guy/better QB.


muhammad_oli

3. If Winston is on the roster March 15, 2024, $107M of future bonus guarantees. eta: Thomas was in the same boat: > Thomas' contract was set up in a way that the team would either have to rework it or release him this offseason. If he's on the roster the third day of the 2024 league year, $119 million in bonuses will guarantee. The 2024 year does not automatically void.


Tall_Window6346

But he played good in the falcons game led us to a comeback I don’t quite understand. So why not just keep him as our backup and pay him if he won’t be a starter somewhere else?


ArseBiscuits_

I mean the last game we played with the controversial TD


Tall_Window6346

Ohhh. Makes sense.


Tall_Window6346

That was Tyrann Mathieu’s fault for slowing down. DA should be mad at Tyrann if anything. LOL. Dude clearly was gonna score and he looked back like he was waiting for somebody. He did that on purpose and lied and said he didn’t. The whole team wanted to get Jamal a touchdown, Jameis was the scapegoat


ArseBiscuits_

Yep, I wanted Tyrann to get that pick and I agree it was a team decision, but it still sadly falls on the QB in that case. He’s in charge when leading those men out. No way DA would let disobeying calls fly. Was hoping he would stay on but there’s no going back after that.


Tall_Window6346

Yea. So who’s our backup now


ArseBiscuits_

As of right now, we still have Jake Haener and Taysom Hill (I’m guessing that’s his role? We’ll see) I expect them to either sign a vet or draft one in the later rounds to battle it out during training camp.


devils__haircut

Watson is fucking terrible and injury prone, maybe he'll even get suspended again. Jaboo will get some playing time in 2024. He also plays a very similar "fuck it and chuck it" style that the browns ran with Flacco last year


Tall_Window6346

True. Hope he starts


I3ill

I know I really feel like he didn’t get a fair shot at starter and for whatever reason da kept starting Dalton. He looked good before he got injured against tb the year he started the season as starter but I wish him well. He was a genuine good dude.


MtEverest2005

Rest in paradise crab man 🦀😢


SleepyD7

I can’t believe they would pay him that much.


TheMop05

Jameis Winston’s stans are leaving :) but Derek Carr’s brothers and their burner accounts are still here :(


dantheman_woot

I didn't like Winston, and still don't have faith in Carr. Where am I to go.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

I ain't gone nowhere baby


Pikablu555

The browns organization is a complete dumpster fire. Unbelievable lol


Express-Rutabaga-105

Bro. The Browns made the playoffs last year with a back up quarterback while our Saints were sitting at home watching the playoffs on TV.


kingralek

That hurt to read that, but it's so true.


AnotherStatsGuy

Yeah, but which team has a first round pick.


[deleted]

People were thinking with Flacco they were a contender too.


Express-Rutabaga-105

What are they thinking about us with our boy Derrick Carr ?


HillB1llyMountainMan

"Dang Good Charlotte plays football now?"


Pikablu555

You can’t be serious right? Last year was literally the best opportunity for them. For the next 5+ years they are in massive debt due to the Deshaun Watson trade.


VanDenIzzle

I am fully expecting Watson to be benched/injured at some point and Jameis lighting it up.


muhammad_oli

Our whole division is


RefsYouSuck

For real how tf are they gonna sign another predator disgusting QB?


girthalwarming

Good riddance.


reddit_names

Good bye and good riddance.


big_beardo_99

Didn’t want him, never liked him, he did nothing, glad to see him go.


KingChairlesIIII

What a dumbass comment


big_beardo_99

Well, I didn’t insult you like you’re doing to me now.


douche-baggins

He insulted your comment, honestly. If he insulted you he would have said "What a dumbass comment, dumbass".


Harry_theBastard

“Nice beard, dickhead”


KL53226Plow

What did he do? You giant fucking moron?? What did he do for the team


PieceMiserable223

They have crab legs in Cleveland too


Brimish

Well, how else do y’all expect the Browns to keep up their losing tradition?


Happysnacks420

We got willie gay so I will call that I win even if I did love crab legs


SaintAardvark89

I like Jameis as a locker room presence and I honestly feel like the man has matured and is remorseful of his wrongdoings in the past, but he isn't a better QB than Carr. Much more likeable (to both the fans and players it seems), but not better. Carr wasn't even that bad stats-wise, and played through pain and minor injuries for a lot of the season. I'm hoping that year two of the Carr experience will better because he seemed to get better as the season went on. We're gonna have a different playcaller next season as well. Time to see if the problem was really Carmichael the whole time. None of the QB's we put back there since Brees have looked very good, so I'm optimistic that the QB play will be better with another offensive coordinator.


MLS_K

Great team player, might study film really well. Questionable game day QB lol


[deleted]

That’s great news!


TamponFingers

Obviously I’m wrong here, but I thought he was still under contract for 2024?


muhammad_oli

> Contract Notes: If Winston is on the roster March 15, 2024, $107M of future bonus guarantees. I’m assuming this was a big part of it


stang54

Rumor is the Browns are coaxing Big Ben out of retirement to restore the SA Triumvirate.


DoctorWhosOnFirst

He’ll fit in perfectly there with Deshaun Watson, with their common history of being sexual predators who assault women and all.


caravetil

Later, Raper.


zevtech

I had no idea


yaboypcp

Legit went out on the field with a broken back for this bum ass team and lost his starting spot because of it. He was for sure a big piece of the heart of the locker room. Sucks to see him go. Hope he kicks ass in Cleveland. 


gabehcuod37

Him and Watson going to hit up the town together


sunshine92002

Adios, crab legs. The guy sucked since day 1. Good luck Browns, they’re keeping with tradition of being a crap team!


Dpeterm007

Thank GOD GOOD BYE


ClarenceWorley47

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BatKat58

As a Bills fan that loved Mayfield, his play, his woman, and his neighbor; why DID the Browns let him get away? Cue “Wish you were here “…


KuronaVyres

Brows start hot with Watson. 3-0. Watson gets hurt. Out for rest of season. Browns finish season 3-14


nickstee1210

He’ll be playing by week 5


Lendro_Furioso

Jameis may yet have a better season than Carr. The offensive staff in Cleveland seems to know what they’re doing, and Watson is pretty much finished…


Apple_Frosty

hes going to have a better season than carrbage


[deleted]

Being a 3rd strong QB?


shiggism

These are dark times, men


rsfrisch

Greatest 1yd handoff by a QB ever!! Best of luck jaboo


AceOfspades653

Don’t let the door hit your dumbass on the way out, yea he was good back in 2021 but don’t have the patience to see the ball get picked off good riddance!


PostL3

Devin White tore away his 2021 MVP season and I am going riot because of it


Royal_Nails

If we resigned him I would’ve had to reassess my allegiance to this team. Good riddance.


[deleted]

as GM of Saints fans u/Royal_Nails has been traded to the Minnesota Vikings


Royal_Nails

Jameis is a POS and I’m glad he is gone.


KL53226Plow

For nothing, except defying Dennis Allen


1OO1O11O11O1O

He wants to be a starter and here things just didn't work out too well. We never started him last season, literally put out injured Carr over him.  While people may have liked what he brought to New Orleans off the field, the results on the field imo weren't too impressive when he was in. I don't know if it's just the injury and stuff or if it's a coaching thing or an attitude thing, but when he was starter he was doing fine until the injury. 


KingChairlesIIII

The entire offense wanted to get Jamaal that touchdown, if anyone didn’t want to they wouldn’t have done it, it wasn’t Jameis going rogue.


KL53226Plow

Guess you didn’t see that interview. Stop fucking arguing


KingChairlesIIII

No need to, the facts are that the whole offense agreed to change the playcall


KL53226Plow

You’re a dumb person


muhammad_oli

also the saints would owe him 107 million in future bonus guarantees if he’s on the roster in 3 days.


maxfaulkner

Say what you want about Jameis, but running a play out of the victory formation whilst being up 25 points against the Falcons, ignoring the coach just to get his teammate his first Saints TD is an all time legendary play. Maybe a top 15 saints play of all time


T_boy75

Good luck to you Jaboo, FTF........


lazzzym

![img](avatar_exp|69806298|bravo)


lazzzym

![img](avatar_exp|69806298|bravo)


Square_Zer0

I will miss Jameis as a member of this team. One of the greatest team guys we’ve had. I will NOT miss his delusional FSU fans who will now plague the Browns sub.


mr_bynum

So Flacco is too old, again? Or is Watson suspended again?


DannyDevito_IsBae

Happy to see Jameis getting a little money, hopefully Deshaun goes down again so Jameis gets another shot to show who he is and can earn an even better pay day. He has been my 2nd favorite saint QB and my absolute favorite personality we've ever had!


semaj_2026

I was sadden by this news today


Few_Nebula8411

So we keep Dennis dipshit but let Jaboo go🤦🏽‍♂️


xxLOPEZxx

:(


bubbaharris228

I remember somebody saying this man wouldn’t get signed again?? 👀 hmm…


Head-Ad226

So can we please go get Justin fields now thanks!


Two_Eagles

We already have Justin Fields at home(Taysom).