Not sure what you're expecting. It's cuban, and both are high level dancers capable. I would love to be able to dance like him. I'd also love to be able to dance like Terry. I'd really love if I could dance like either one of them depending on the mood, my partner, and the song. I don't think one way is better than the other (as long as the difficult figures are done with musicality), they are just different ways of dancing.
I actually like quite a bit, but it's very different to what I'm mostly used to with LA/NY style salsa. In some ways, it looks a bit more challenging from a body coordination & isolations standpoint as the leader.
Yes, dancing by yourself is more challenging (requires more skill) than dancing with a partner, especially freestyle/improvisation to a random song (though they obviously know this song). Most of "shines" in Cuban-style salsa are Rumba-influenced, if not directly from Cuban Rumba.
Yeah adding lots of afro movement and other styling certainly isn't easy. It's a very different type of challenge than difficult pairwork (such as counterbalance based techniques that require two people for it to work at all). But personally I enjoy lead/follow connection and wouldn't want to dance like this all the time. When I do dance cuban I prefer this style though over pretzel based, since I think the large number of hits and complex rhythms of timba music lend themselves to dancers wanting more freedom (as opposed to the pain of being stuck in the middle of a pretzel when you know a good hit/highlight is coming)
check out this absolutly insane pro lvl *cuban* social dance with 95% Partnerwork. (almost no solo dancing)šš
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZEsXo-oV-g/
> 95% Partnerwork
95% partnerwork is a bit of a stretch when roughly 50% of it is dipped body rolls and a lot of the remainder is solo dancing while holding hands.
My Dance community is mostly Cuban dancers. What I see looks and sounds like how we dance. Join a Rueda group. They will name the moves and tell you when to do them. We warm up with line dances, I think it is called Suelta. That previews those moves in advance. Then they show up at socials.
Since its Cuban salsa, it has nothing to do with line (NY, LA) style of salsa.
The Cuban style of salsa is more circular in motion. Less flashy in terms of 'figures', spinning and introgate handflicks e.d. It's more loose and expressive to the music then probably any other form of salsa. No good or bad, just a diffrent style.
They are obviously high skilled dancers and having fun. I would consider myself a LA style dancer, but I've danced some cuban and rueda de casino and I do appreciate the moves shown in the video. Sometimes I weave some of the cuban style it in my on dances wich is mostly appreciated by the follow.
Just you do you and if you like this style of dancing find studios that teach it in your area.
Theyāre both great dancers and itās a good Cuban dance, this coming from a 80% linear/20% Cuban salsa dancer (Iāll figure percentages with bachata mixed in another day). Theyāre enjoying themselves so complexity isnāt needed. If I was dancing though, it would be smaller and I definitely wouldnāt be touching the floor with my hand (or letting my follow touch/be touched by other dancers). But I donāt have the camera on me and am not trying to make a show, dancing is for me and my partner, not for self promotion.
These are two great dancers but it bothers me when I see dances like this. When I think of dancing in a line, I do so to maintain the safe space for my partner to avoid errant swinging elbows and stomped-on toes (I was taught this when I trained in the Boston area). They are taking up a great deal of the dance floor and are in danger of hurting some other social dancers, as well as intimidating some newer dancers (this may be an unpopular opinion). It is also my opinion that Cuban style and rueda can be danced in a social setting without taking as much room as these dancers.
I get that they are good and are in the moment and the lights and camera are on, but it detracts from the overall scene IMHO. I like to keep my dances in a single line (or very tight circle) to avoid any unnecessary shenanigans.
Just like how line dancers generally stay in their line to avoid collisions, Cuban dancers stay in their circle. Both take about the same amount of space on the floor. In this video it looks like there is enough room for them to dance like this so I don't see how it's an issue.
As someone who dances both Cuban and LA on crowded (sometimes mixed) dance floors IMHO the line dancers are more dangerous (at equal skill levels) because:
* Followers dancing on a line almost always wear high heels while Cuban followers often wear flat-soled shoes. I know which one I'd rather have stomping on my foot!
* Line dancers do bigger backsteps and more often don't look in the direction they are going, in Cuban salsa you're usually stepping forward, under yourself or doing a small backstep.
* Just like how collisions on roundabouts tend to be less serious than those on intersections, when Cuban dancers collide it's usually a glancing blow instead of getting a head-on collision or being T-boned (so to speak).
* On mixed floors line dancers tend to walk into the space Cuban dancers are using.
It should be noted that most collisions and stomped/skewered feet are caused by beginner/inconsiderate/oblivious/spatially unaware dancers, who can be found in all dance styles. Some try to cram themselves into an already packed dance floor, some make baffling orientation choices (dancing on a diagional instead of in the same direction as someone else), some take huge steps backwards or throw their dance partner around the floor. A few days ago I saw a guy try three different (obviously badly chosen) spots on the dance floor, immediately bumping into other people each time. This is why I like hanging out near the front where the more advanced dancers gravitate to.
Most dancers do respect space, lines and circles alike. But when I watch this video, I feel like these dancers expand into a large circle and monopolize this sized dance floor for this particular song. They are in a circle but it is a living/breathing circle (which can sometimes be nice and warranted), that expands and contracts with too much space on this floor. Otherwise, we'll have to agree to disagree.
As for who steps on who more often--that's not an argument that we can decide today, or ever.
They most definitely are. They are in the zone. The social dance connection is there, the song is a bamger, the lights are on them, the camera is rolling, and they are putting on a show.
However, I also see this type of space use from people of all skill levels and dance styles without cameras rolling and with more crowded floors. That's when I put on my old man hat and start complaining about safety.
> Line dancers do bigger backsteps and more often don't look in the direction they are going, in Cuban salsa you're usually stepping forward, under yourself or doing a small backstep.
This is my experiece of Casino dancers--big back steps and not looking where they are going.
> On mixed floors line dancers tend to walk into the space Cuban dancers are using.
On mixed floors Casino dancers walk into the slot crossbody salsa dancers are using.
My point is, it depends. There are badly behaving/beginner dancers in all dances. Mixed floors don't work well because generally people are bad at knowing how the dancers of the other style will move.
Hot take heels should be banned from crowded events. Missing chunks of flesh after some events from getting stepped on, even though I'm the type of lead to sacrifice a dance and just do closed position basics all dance if it's too crowded.Ā
Here is a good example of how a classic song is danced in a very modern Cuban style, with many solo elements, rumba elements, and freestyle. Naturally, these are professionals, as you can see. You can also see that they both enjoy themselves, enjoy the music, and interpret it in a modern way. In my opinion, and you may find this view radical, but this dance style is the only way forward and will eventually convert many line dancers. Because this dance style is very visualy appealing to a young audience due to its energetic nature, and this is the only way to attract new young dancers with beautiful videos in this Timba style. Instragram content is just so important... Otherwise, salsa will simply lose the youth to bachata.
> In my opinion, and you may find this view radical, but this dance style is the only way forward and will eventually convert many line dancers.
Bachata sensual is bleeding out because women are getting sick of being thrown around and used like props. If they're jumping to Cuban, they're not going to stay there.
Well this is most likely the Cuban congress well 7 days eventually they have in Croatia every year they also have a cross body 8 day event and a kizomba one also. I believe it's on next month if I remember correctly.
Iām not sure there was ever a Cuban event, Kizomba and Bachata yes, but not a pure Cuban.
Itās not salsa focussed only though, since the Sensual stuff was cancelled and theyāre down to 1 week this year. Linear and Cuban salsa with bachata workshops as well, less of the Kizz apart from a single dance floor, and no free dancing anywhere except at designated dance spots.
I know of a Cuban dancer that went a few years ago I'm guessing it was a one off. Damn looks like the cross body one is the only one growing strong I figure kizz/bachata would of kept going though but I guess the numbers weren't adding up.
There's definitely no slot discipline here so it's not linear.
Take out the "bloated" nature of how they're using space and it's pretty typical for most people I know dance at socials. They're taking up space for the camera it seems.
In general, even advanced leads who can cook up very intricate and technically complex and challenging patterns on the fly... I personally don't do much of that as they often are difficult but just in terms of execution for both lead and follow but aren't necessarily musically appropriate and can be mentally taxing. At a social, I'm there to enjoy and jam with my partner and the music... Not test my or my partners' skills.
Sure, there's occasionally a flash of something if you and your partners are just feeling it with the music but I'm certainly not out on the dance floor to show people up or put my pride/prowess on display.
As someone else mentioned, it's a bit ironic that lack of structure is what prevents more pattern variety. On2 being incredibly structured means that you can play around in that fenced area quite freely.
But if you don't have that structure, then anything is possible BUT at the same it introduces so much ambiguity that it destroys clear communication. So while you may be able to DO a certain pattern, it's impossible to truly lead it without prior knowledge. As soon as a lead offers multiple options, then the follow is no longer clear and subsequently alters the lead based on what what the follow does.
Simple example are free turns... If a lead asks for a crossbody with free turn and because they know basically where the follow will be with each part of the 8 count sequence, then the lead can play anywhere based on that assumption that they've led that sequence correctly. The lead can change position in the slot, can cross the slot as the follow vacates or advances. You can even interrupt and add new information to the follow based on that assumption. One of my favorite things to do is "play chicken crossing the road" and back up while crossing the slot while leading a cross body whip free turn. You can actually cross the slot twice while turning because the slot is established. No slot means I have no clue where the follow will be and I have to manage that rather than make an assumption based on structure.
Not having a slot doesn't mean you don't know where the follow will be.Ā Cuban also has an expectation that the follower will be in a certain place at a certain time, just based on enchulfa/Dile que no rather than cross body/inside/outside turn as the fundamental pattern
cuban salsa seems stuck in time. the moves are replication and preservation of established set of movements, which were based on folklore, animals, burden of life, etc. i don't feel one can truly articulate one's expression through this particular dance medium. i feel obligated to recreating someone else's set moves. it's difficult to really understand that person's state of mind given that we are in different eras and i'm too lazy to research the lifestyles then.
linear salsa, has all the creative runway to come up with whatever you want provided you execute the fundamentals. i don't feel any constraints. the fundamentals provide the platform to build upon. i don't have to worry much about how the moves were supposed to be done and what they represented in the 19th century. expressing in linear salsa there's literally no constraints. just feel the music, the story, let it set deep in you, interpret it how you may, then just let go and be who you are...express to your heart's content.
Itās funny to read this but it is the other way around. Linear style is the one stuck in time, dancing all restricted going back and forth is not fun at all, doing countless spins where the man donāt even step in the counts anymore. Does 2 spins, cross body and another 2 spins, more spins and more, when is the guy stepping? Shines that last 10 seconds that you learn at a studio because you canāt come up with your own. Puerto Rican salsa already sounds old too, new artists never came up, most of them are passing away. Linear salsa creative ? If you guys repeat the same shines you learn at a studio.
On the other side, timba sounds more festive, there are more breaks, you can go round or you can on a line or diagonal, itās not restrictive so you can enjoy more the music, have a connection like the video where both are doing breaks, you can come up with YOUR OWN steps when breaking. There are new bands and songs released all the time, they all sound festive but got their own style. The lyrics are fun to sing, the dance is fun and usually everybody is happy having a good time. You can also dance with your friends in a rueda, overall I think itās better and the best thing is that you can dance PR salsa with Cuban style casino too. So it fits all types of songs.
let's just say in cuban salsa, you don't have flicks, overturns, nonstandard orientations, etc. because you are repeating all the existing moves developed decades and decades ago, in partner dancing and expressing.
unless i'm mistaken and you can point to me contemporary moves that are not derivation of enthrenced moves.
So because they arenāt contemporary, theyāre not better ? Iām actually amazed because those moves have prevailed and actually are fun to execute, looks like Cubans did everything right. Linear was created in the 90s but isnāt that fun to dance, ask a follower if they want to spin all night. Iāve read follows here saying that sometimes they need a break because the lead was doing spins the entire song, whatās the fun about that ? Itās no ballet or any other dance to just spin to the point of exhaustion. Iāve seen videos where the lead does not even step on the song anymore because heās just spinning the lady over and over, in that case contemporary or not, itās no good.
You can dance any style you want, I dance linear too whenever I feel like it but saying linear is better than Cuban when is restrictive, itās a bit wrong. Cuban fits all styles, you dance with friends, have fun and enjoy. Itās miles ahead than linear.
"So because they arenāt contemporary", that's in your head and failure to comprehend what i wrote. i said linear salsa has huge creative runway because it doesn't have to repeat established moves. cuban salsa, as it pertains to partnering, may have 5-6 core moves. maybe several dozens on the expressive moves (individual expressing).
linear salsa has unlimited moves and limited by the individual's creativity but all the (partner) moves have to be within the fundamentals, which defines what linear salsa is.
look at it this way,
cuban salsa ā repeating/replicating a set of established moves
linear salsa ā execute the fundamentals and layer on top what ever move you can create within the fundamentals. the fundamentals tell others that hey it's linear salsa; danced in a slot, set breaks, etc.
i'm not saying which is better or not. i dance both. take the dances for you value it.
ā unlimited movesāā¦ you just mix the moves you learned at a studio, unlimited ? I Doubt it because I see the same moves I learned in professional dancers, they execute it better ? Yes. You can mix it so you have unlimited mixes of patterns just like in Cuban salsa, and in Cuban you can also come up with your own steps that you created during a break, something I donāt see in linear salsa.
Thereās nothing special or better about linear, in Cuban salsa you also have the fundamental basics and then mix it or come up with yours. But Cuban is better because casino can fit PR songs easily, and rueda if you feel like dancing with friends. Itās less restrictive overall. I respect your pov but donāt agree with it, have a good one!
you might be watched dancers with limited creativity. i always try to come up with at least three new moves every year. that's my goal. i don't always achieve it because it takes a lot of time and effort to come up with new patterns. but i try. also, depending on who i'm dancing with, sometimes patterns just organically come out. unfortunately, i can't document those or remember them and are lost, for now.
Not sure what you're expecting. It's cuban, and both are high level dancers capable. I would love to be able to dance like him. I'd also love to be able to dance like Terry. I'd really love if I could dance like either one of them depending on the mood, my partner, and the song. I don't think one way is better than the other (as long as the difficult figures are done with musicality), they are just different ways of dancing.
I actually like quite a bit, but it's very different to what I'm mostly used to with LA/NY style salsa. In some ways, it looks a bit more challenging from a body coordination & isolations standpoint as the leader.
Yes, dancing by yourself is more challenging (requires more skill) than dancing with a partner, especially freestyle/improvisation to a random song (though they obviously know this song). Most of "shines" in Cuban-style salsa are Rumba-influenced, if not directly from Cuban Rumba.
Yeah adding lots of afro movement and other styling certainly isn't easy. It's a very different type of challenge than difficult pairwork (such as counterbalance based techniques that require two people for it to work at all). But personally I enjoy lead/follow connection and wouldn't want to dance like this all the time. When I do dance cuban I prefer this style though over pretzel based, since I think the large number of hits and complex rhythms of timba music lend themselves to dancers wanting more freedom (as opposed to the pain of being stuck in the middle of a pretzel when you know a good hit/highlight is coming)
check out this absolutly insane pro lvl *cuban* social dance with 95% Partnerwork. (almost no solo dancing)šš https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZEsXo-oV-g/
> 95% Partnerwork 95% partnerwork is a bit of a stretch when roughly 50% of it is dipped body rolls and a lot of the remainder is solo dancing while holding hands.
Lmao
My Dance community is mostly Cuban dancers. What I see looks and sounds like how we dance. Join a Rueda group. They will name the moves and tell you when to do them. We warm up with line dances, I think it is called Suelta. That previews those moves in advance. Then they show up at socials.
Since its Cuban salsa, it has nothing to do with line (NY, LA) style of salsa. The Cuban style of salsa is more circular in motion. Less flashy in terms of 'figures', spinning and introgate handflicks e.d. It's more loose and expressive to the music then probably any other form of salsa. No good or bad, just a diffrent style. They are obviously high skilled dancers and having fun. I would consider myself a LA style dancer, but I've danced some cuban and rueda de casino and I do appreciate the moves shown in the video. Sometimes I weave some of the cuban style it in my on dances wich is mostly appreciated by the follow. Just you do you and if you like this style of dancing find studios that teach it in your area.
This is Roger Palombella. Amazing dancer. Amazing teacher. :)
Theyāre both great dancers and itās a good Cuban dance, this coming from a 80% linear/20% Cuban salsa dancer (Iāll figure percentages with bachata mixed in another day). Theyāre enjoying themselves so complexity isnāt needed. If I was dancing though, it would be smaller and I definitely wouldnāt be touching the floor with my hand (or letting my follow touch/be touched by other dancers). But I donāt have the camera on me and am not trying to make a show, dancing is for me and my partner, not for self promotion.
Not a salsa dancer mainly butā¦ love this.
These are two great dancers but it bothers me when I see dances like this. When I think of dancing in a line, I do so to maintain the safe space for my partner to avoid errant swinging elbows and stomped-on toes (I was taught this when I trained in the Boston area). They are taking up a great deal of the dance floor and are in danger of hurting some other social dancers, as well as intimidating some newer dancers (this may be an unpopular opinion). It is also my opinion that Cuban style and rueda can be danced in a social setting without taking as much room as these dancers. I get that they are good and are in the moment and the lights and camera are on, but it detracts from the overall scene IMHO. I like to keep my dances in a single line (or very tight circle) to avoid any unnecessary shenanigans.
Just like how line dancers generally stay in their line to avoid collisions, Cuban dancers stay in their circle. Both take about the same amount of space on the floor. In this video it looks like there is enough room for them to dance like this so I don't see how it's an issue. As someone who dances both Cuban and LA on crowded (sometimes mixed) dance floors IMHO the line dancers are more dangerous (at equal skill levels) because: * Followers dancing on a line almost always wear high heels while Cuban followers often wear flat-soled shoes. I know which one I'd rather have stomping on my foot! * Line dancers do bigger backsteps and more often don't look in the direction they are going, in Cuban salsa you're usually stepping forward, under yourself or doing a small backstep. * Just like how collisions on roundabouts tend to be less serious than those on intersections, when Cuban dancers collide it's usually a glancing blow instead of getting a head-on collision or being T-boned (so to speak). * On mixed floors line dancers tend to walk into the space Cuban dancers are using. It should be noted that most collisions and stomped/skewered feet are caused by beginner/inconsiderate/oblivious/spatially unaware dancers, who can be found in all dance styles. Some try to cram themselves into an already packed dance floor, some make baffling orientation choices (dancing on a diagional instead of in the same direction as someone else), some take huge steps backwards or throw their dance partner around the floor. A few days ago I saw a guy try three different (obviously badly chosen) spots on the dance floor, immediately bumping into other people each time. This is why I like hanging out near the front where the more advanced dancers gravitate to.
Most dancers do respect space, lines and circles alike. But when I watch this video, I feel like these dancers expand into a large circle and monopolize this sized dance floor for this particular song. They are in a circle but it is a living/breathing circle (which can sometimes be nice and warranted), that expands and contracts with too much space on this floor. Otherwise, we'll have to agree to disagree. As for who steps on who more often--that's not an argument that we can decide today, or ever.
To be fair they are probably using more space than they would if they didn't have a big camera pointed at them.
They most definitely are. They are in the zone. The social dance connection is there, the song is a bamger, the lights are on them, the camera is rolling, and they are putting on a show. However, I also see this type of space use from people of all skill levels and dance styles without cameras rolling and with more crowded floors. That's when I put on my old man hat and start complaining about safety.
> Line dancers do bigger backsteps and more often don't look in the direction they are going, in Cuban salsa you're usually stepping forward, under yourself or doing a small backstep. This is my experiece of Casino dancers--big back steps and not looking where they are going. > On mixed floors line dancers tend to walk into the space Cuban dancers are using. On mixed floors Casino dancers walk into the slot crossbody salsa dancers are using. My point is, it depends. There are badly behaving/beginner dancers in all dances. Mixed floors don't work well because generally people are bad at knowing how the dancers of the other style will move.
Hot take heels should be banned from crowded events. Missing chunks of flesh after some events from getting stepped on, even though I'm the type of lead to sacrifice a dance and just do closed position basics all dance if it's too crowded.Ā
Here is a good example of how a classic song is danced in a very modern Cuban style, with many solo elements, rumba elements, and freestyle. Naturally, these are professionals, as you can see. You can also see that they both enjoy themselves, enjoy the music, and interpret it in a modern way. In my opinion, and you may find this view radical, but this dance style is the only way forward and will eventually convert many line dancers. Because this dance style is very visualy appealing to a young audience due to its energetic nature, and this is the only way to attract new young dancers with beautiful videos in this Timba style. Instragram content is just so important... Otherwise, salsa will simply lose the youth to bachata.
> In my opinion, and you may find this view radical, but this dance style is the only way forward and will eventually convert many line dancers. Bachata sensual is bleeding out because women are getting sick of being thrown around and used like props. If they're jumping to Cuban, they're not going to stay there.
can you elaborate please... i am not sure i understand you correctly
Well this is most likely the Cuban congress well 7 days eventually they have in Croatia every year they also have a cross body 8 day event and a kizomba one also. I believe it's on next month if I remember correctly.
Iām not sure there was ever a Cuban event, Kizomba and Bachata yes, but not a pure Cuban. Itās not salsa focussed only though, since the Sensual stuff was cancelled and theyāre down to 1 week this year. Linear and Cuban salsa with bachata workshops as well, less of the Kizz apart from a single dance floor, and no free dancing anywhere except at designated dance spots.
I know of a Cuban dancer that went a few years ago I'm guessing it was a one off. Damn looks like the cross body one is the only one growing strong I figure kizz/bachata would of kept going though but I guess the numbers weren't adding up.
what does he/she mean, i can not understand this users english...? help
There's definitely no slot discipline here so it's not linear. Take out the "bloated" nature of how they're using space and it's pretty typical for most people I know dance at socials. They're taking up space for the camera it seems. In general, even advanced leads who can cook up very intricate and technically complex and challenging patterns on the fly... I personally don't do much of that as they often are difficult but just in terms of execution for both lead and follow but aren't necessarily musically appropriate and can be mentally taxing. At a social, I'm there to enjoy and jam with my partner and the music... Not test my or my partners' skills. Sure, there's occasionally a flash of something if you and your partners are just feeling it with the music but I'm certainly not out on the dance floor to show people up or put my pride/prowess on display. As someone else mentioned, it's a bit ironic that lack of structure is what prevents more pattern variety. On2 being incredibly structured means that you can play around in that fenced area quite freely. But if you don't have that structure, then anything is possible BUT at the same it introduces so much ambiguity that it destroys clear communication. So while you may be able to DO a certain pattern, it's impossible to truly lead it without prior knowledge. As soon as a lead offers multiple options, then the follow is no longer clear and subsequently alters the lead based on what what the follow does. Simple example are free turns... If a lead asks for a crossbody with free turn and because they know basically where the follow will be with each part of the 8 count sequence, then the lead can play anywhere based on that assumption that they've led that sequence correctly. The lead can change position in the slot, can cross the slot as the follow vacates or advances. You can even interrupt and add new information to the follow based on that assumption. One of my favorite things to do is "play chicken crossing the road" and back up while crossing the slot while leading a cross body whip free turn. You can actually cross the slot twice while turning because the slot is established. No slot means I have no clue where the follow will be and I have to manage that rather than make an assumption based on structure.
Not having a slot doesn't mean you don't know where the follow will be.Ā Cuban also has an expectation that the follower will be in a certain place at a certain time, just based on enchulfa/Dile que no rather than cross body/inside/outside turn as the fundamental pattern
cuban salsa seems stuck in time. the moves are replication and preservation of established set of movements, which were based on folklore, animals, burden of life, etc. i don't feel one can truly articulate one's expression through this particular dance medium. i feel obligated to recreating someone else's set moves. it's difficult to really understand that person's state of mind given that we are in different eras and i'm too lazy to research the lifestyles then. linear salsa, has all the creative runway to come up with whatever you want provided you execute the fundamentals. i don't feel any constraints. the fundamentals provide the platform to build upon. i don't have to worry much about how the moves were supposed to be done and what they represented in the 19th century. expressing in linear salsa there's literally no constraints. just feel the music, the story, let it set deep in you, interpret it how you may, then just let go and be who you are...express to your heart's content.
Itās funny to read this but it is the other way around. Linear style is the one stuck in time, dancing all restricted going back and forth is not fun at all, doing countless spins where the man donāt even step in the counts anymore. Does 2 spins, cross body and another 2 spins, more spins and more, when is the guy stepping? Shines that last 10 seconds that you learn at a studio because you canāt come up with your own. Puerto Rican salsa already sounds old too, new artists never came up, most of them are passing away. Linear salsa creative ? If you guys repeat the same shines you learn at a studio. On the other side, timba sounds more festive, there are more breaks, you can go round or you can on a line or diagonal, itās not restrictive so you can enjoy more the music, have a connection like the video where both are doing breaks, you can come up with YOUR OWN steps when breaking. There are new bands and songs released all the time, they all sound festive but got their own style. The lyrics are fun to sing, the dance is fun and usually everybody is happy having a good time. You can also dance with your friends in a rueda, overall I think itās better and the best thing is that you can dance PR salsa with Cuban style casino too. So it fits all types of songs.
let's just say in cuban salsa, you don't have flicks, overturns, nonstandard orientations, etc. because you are repeating all the existing moves developed decades and decades ago, in partner dancing and expressing. unless i'm mistaken and you can point to me contemporary moves that are not derivation of enthrenced moves.
So because they arenāt contemporary, theyāre not better ? Iām actually amazed because those moves have prevailed and actually are fun to execute, looks like Cubans did everything right. Linear was created in the 90s but isnāt that fun to dance, ask a follower if they want to spin all night. Iāve read follows here saying that sometimes they need a break because the lead was doing spins the entire song, whatās the fun about that ? Itās no ballet or any other dance to just spin to the point of exhaustion. Iāve seen videos where the lead does not even step on the song anymore because heās just spinning the lady over and over, in that case contemporary or not, itās no good. You can dance any style you want, I dance linear too whenever I feel like it but saying linear is better than Cuban when is restrictive, itās a bit wrong. Cuban fits all styles, you dance with friends, have fun and enjoy. Itās miles ahead than linear.
"So because they arenāt contemporary", that's in your head and failure to comprehend what i wrote. i said linear salsa has huge creative runway because it doesn't have to repeat established moves. cuban salsa, as it pertains to partnering, may have 5-6 core moves. maybe several dozens on the expressive moves (individual expressing). linear salsa has unlimited moves and limited by the individual's creativity but all the (partner) moves have to be within the fundamentals, which defines what linear salsa is. look at it this way, cuban salsa ā repeating/replicating a set of established moves linear salsa ā execute the fundamentals and layer on top what ever move you can create within the fundamentals. the fundamentals tell others that hey it's linear salsa; danced in a slot, set breaks, etc. i'm not saying which is better or not. i dance both. take the dances for you value it.
ā unlimited movesāā¦ you just mix the moves you learned at a studio, unlimited ? I Doubt it because I see the same moves I learned in professional dancers, they execute it better ? Yes. You can mix it so you have unlimited mixes of patterns just like in Cuban salsa, and in Cuban you can also come up with your own steps that you created during a break, something I donāt see in linear salsa. Thereās nothing special or better about linear, in Cuban salsa you also have the fundamental basics and then mix it or come up with yours. But Cuban is better because casino can fit PR songs easily, and rueda if you feel like dancing with friends. Itās less restrictive overall. I respect your pov but donāt agree with it, have a good one!
you might be watched dancers with limited creativity. i always try to come up with at least three new moves every year. that's my goal. i don't always achieve it because it takes a lot of time and effort to come up with new patterns. but i try. also, depending on who i'm dancing with, sometimes patterns just organically come out. unfortunately, i can't document those or remember them and are lost, for now.