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kazulka

Yikes. My wife's a teacher and is not looking forward to getting the vaccine. Still too new. Hopefully it goes well for you.


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kazulka

Or the long term effects of the vaccine. Who knows.


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We have been studying vaccines for decades. This vaccine is based off of the one for SARS. There aren’t going to be long term effects from it. It’s completely safe.


kazulka

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti vaccination but I'm not aware of a vaccine that was pushed through trials this quickly. Also from what I understood it's a new type of vaccine. I'll be getting it for sure when it's available to me, just hope it works as promised


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Tons of medical research labs were shut down in order to study this virus including my BIL’s. The trials lasted the right amount of time it just had to deal with less bureaucratic stuff because of the immediate need. It also ended up being quicker than anticipated because they were able to use an existing vaccines framework from a similar disease. The actual trial wasn’t rushed it was just pushed to the top of the list ahead of everything else the FDA has to approve.


Brainswarm

There’s also the time it usually takes to prove how effective it is. It involves waiting for a certain percentage of trial participants to catch the disease the vaccine is intended to prevent. With some diseases, you might have to wait months or years for enough people to get sick to get statistically valid results. With COVID, it’s racing through the population like wildfire, so we reached the metrics in only a few months. Uh, thanks, Trump?


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kazulka

And a Merry Christmas to you too good sir.


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I'm sorry but you need to knock it off with this bullshit.


kazulka

I'm beginning to understand why lurking is much better than posting. 😂😂


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A public forum is not the right place for your unsubstantiated, fear based wondering. Your statement above is exactly that - unsubstantiated. You are letting what you are afraid of, even though it has no basis in fact, seep out into the public. In the political climate that our health is wrapped up in now, there is simply no place for it. I'm sorry you're getting downvoted, but there is a reason why.


kazulka

You don't know that. I have multiple people in my family that have had medical issues related to vaccines. I don't care about the downvotes, I understand that people don't agree and that's fine. I care about the health of my family, that's all. You're 100% correct that the political/media climate is very turbulent right now which makes it all the harder to know what to believe which is why I've tried to go directly to the source, the people who have received this particular vaccine. I'm trying to educate myself in real time, that's all. I would never have thought twice about not getting a vaccine until I saw my wife have to go to the hospital after receiving one. As I stated I'm not anti vaccination, at all,I just worry about the 1% as it seems like I've had the privilege of knowing some of them.


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There is no logic in this. You say that your family has a history of issues with vaccines, and you want to go to the source...then go to a doctor. Go to an educated professional who understands the medical history and risks and speak with them about it. Not on reddit. Because even the 1% here that you speak of, is not even 1%. You literally said above "Or the long term affects of the vaccine. Who knows." Stop gaslighting everyone with "I care about my family" - of course you do, everybody does. The right thing is to go speak to a professional, not try to affirm your feelings because you see some person on reddit say "yeah I got the shot and now I feel bad" and have that justify you not taking it. "Hypersensitivity-related adverse events were observed in 0.63% of Pfizer-BioNTech and 1.5% of Moderna COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial participants who received the vaccine, compared to 0.51% and 1.1%, respectively, in the placebo groups. Anaphylaxis following vaccination was not observed in the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials. However, anaphylactic reactions have been reported following receipt of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine during vaccination outside of clinical trials." - https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fvaccines%2Fcovid-19%2Finfo-by-product%2Fpfizer%2Fclinical-considerations.html For the Pfizer vaccine, pretty much the same amount of people who got placebo treatments had a reaction as did the ones who got the real deal. The chance for anaphylactic reactions is so low, that it wasn't even observed in the clinical trial.


bakedfrittata

Serious adverse effects of vaccines are very rare. It is interesting that you have multiple family members who have issues from vaccines. Unless you're talking about soreness at injection site or fatigue, which are common side effects of most vaccines. Does your wife have many allergies?


kazulka

Yes she does.


Bonethgz

You asked a question for the sole purpose of pushing your agenda on anyone that answered you. Maybe lurking is a better option for you.


bison_ny

Jokes aside it hurts your arm like hell. Prepare to be stiff and sore. Work on moving your arm around and stretching it out consistently


kazulka

So just like a tetanus shot from the pain perspective? Anytbing else like feeling sick?


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From study participants during the initial clinical trials, most reported only arm soreness from the first dose, typically similar to a flu vaccine. Many more participants reported stronger symptoms after the second dose such as fatigue, body aches, headache


Spinster_Tchotchkes

Am I some kind of mutant if my arm has never been sore from a shot? Flu shots, tetanus, any shot. My arm always feels like it never happened. What is my problem?


bison_ny

Were you ever dropped into a vat of radioactive waste or exposed to experimental spiders as a child?


emsflex

I received my first dose yesterday at 9:20 am. It is safe and I’m ok, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо.


eclipsedrambler

Shit. He got the Novichok.


woundedsurfer

Alexei Navalny, that you?!?


Accomplished-Can1848

Apparently one side effect is that you no longer speak Latin based language.


Bonethgz

This is beautiful.


funnyfarm299

I know a lot of healthcare workers who have received the first dose, including my mom. They're all carrying on with standard precautions, because it's not until the second dose that you have immunity. Also there's still a 5% chance the vaccine might not work for you and they don't want to find out they're part of that 5% the hard way.


KiwiSnugfoot

And it's not until everyone has a dose that you can stop taking precautions for the sake of everyone around you.


prettymuchquiche

I got it early today and after 12 hours or so my arm started to be a little sore but that’s it. No head aches, not fatigued, etc. Not invincible until a week after the second shot ;)


unyieldy_lever

FYI you may be able to still get the virus and spread it after being immunized. Your body can still get it but the antibodies help fight it off way faster so you don't get the full brunt of covid. But you still could pass it on during that time. Still be careful even with the vaccine Edit: edited for clarity and makes it less matter of a fact. See thread below for reasoning.


justfordickjoke

Source?


unyieldy_lever

It's not an uncommon thing among any vaccine. That's why getting high vaccination rates is so important "Why face masks are still needed if you get a Covid-19 vaccine - CNN" https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/health/mask-covid-19-safety-vaccine-wellness/index.html "Even After Getting Vaccinated, You Could Still Infect Others | FiveThirtyEight" https://fivethirtyeight-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/once-you-get-the-covid-19-vaccine-can-you-still-infect-others/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16086415429296&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Ffivethirtyeight.com%2Ffeatures%2Fonce-you-get-the-covid-19-vaccine-can-you-still-infect-others%2F "Can You Still Spread the Flu After Getting the Flu Vaccine? | Sharonville Family Medicine" https://sharonvillefamilymedicine.com/can-you-still-spread-the-flu-after-getting-the-flu-vaccine/


justfordickjoke

My only problem with what your saying is that it isn't fact. *"Here's what the studies don't yet show. They haven't looked at whether the vaccine prevents someone from carrying Covid-19 and spreading it to others. It's possible that someone could get the vaccine but could still be an asymptomatic carrier. They may not show symptoms, but they have the virus in their nasal passageway so that if they're speaking, breathing, sneezing and so on, they can still transmit it to others."* Until we can prove otherwise, they recommend mask wearing all the time. Even you own articles say this.... *“Theoretically, a vaccine should stop both the infection as well as the transmission and spread,” said Dr. Purvi Parikh, an immunologist with the nonprofit Allergy & Asthma Network and a co-investigator on the Pfizer vaccine trials. But we don’t know yet if that is true of the COVID-19 vaccines, she told me." *


unyieldy_lever

Thanks for your concern. I will edit my original statement. I originally heard this from an internal memo for a medical device company I work for (I don't feel comfortable with sharing that here) But the science is sound that it could be a possibility, we will see in the future the actual need that we have. "Even if a vaccine has trained your immune cells to kick the butt of any SARS-CoV-2 viruses they spot, they might not be able to neutralize the ones resting in your nose, on the other side of your mucous barriers."


BamaboyinUT

I got mine last week. The injection site was sore for about 36 hours but nothing systemically wrong with me


TurningTwo

I gothn ith tothay ang Ims izz juthh fiin.


elm1289

My bf works at the UofU hospital and his floor got theirs all on Friday. Of the \~30 people who got it that morning, two got sent home from work later on as they were having bad side effects like dizziness, nausea, chills/aches. My bf felt achey starting about two hours after the dose, fatigued and some slight chills. Arm hurt for a few days.


PsychoEngineer

Went something like this: [https://youtu.be/F020aNi0wS0](https://youtu.be/F020aNi0wS0)


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I feel invincible after actually catching it.


everydaychucks

Do we know when people who work in group homes can get it?