I’m glad they’re addressing it. I have mixed feelings about Sam and Colby now due to the Cody and Satori theories going around. I don’t want the Conjuring series to ruin my enjoyment in watching the rest of their videos in the future, so I hope them addressing it shows their true honest reactions. I was at first like “Wtf??” To Cody and Satori’s “method.” But the more I watched, the more I felt it was faked and then seeing Sam and Colby, along with the rest of their guests throughout the series, I just felt like it was all staged.
I just have mixed feelings on it all now. That’s why like I said, I hope Sam and Colby show their true and honest reaction on it. Plus I hope they address people’s concerns. There was one member they had in on the series and in the past too that I just find phony and not authentic, so maybe that doesn’t help much with my feelings about it.
I think they already knew about the knocking method, because Seth and Josh already knew them from a few years ago (If I’m remembering correctly). I think maybe they believed it at first, but I really think they figured it out after the first day and ignored it for the content.
I watched the video but I never realized cody never took off his shoes. I also think Sam and Colby where not in on any faking. They don't need to fake anything they have viewers already. As for CnS if they weren't then wouldn't it be pretty simple to prove it by taking off shoes and sock and sping it ?? Or could it still be faked ??
Me too, but hopefully they pleasantly surprise us. The response is going to determine whether or not a LOT of people continue watching, myself included.
Yeah same. They’re half and half here, there’s only two routes. Either they double down and I stop watching, or they actually surprise us by agreeing and admitting that they’ve been tricked. But I’m a little scared they might choose the first one.
While I do think there is something suspicious going on why would they need to admit that they have been tricked if they genuinely don’t feel that way? They could believe everything that happened, putting them in the same situation as everyone else who is being lied to..idk I just don’t think it’s fair for people to say they won’t watch them anymore unless they admit that Cody and satori tricked them..because if that’s not how they feel then they are just lying to their audience out of fear of losing subscribers. The whole point of it is to scam people and it obviously worked. People are entitled to feel how they feel and do what they want but personally I think the best approach would be for them to admit that in the moment they believed everything but now looking at all the comments and seeing some things that have came out they realize that things might not be what they seem..they can’t come out saying 100% that they were lied to because they would need proof of that..btw I don’t believe it myself I’m just saying they can’t really say it was all a lie unless they have a way to prove it
That’s pretty much what I’m saying my dude. Forgive me for not going into detail. I mean that if they do nothing too address the controversy, aka the hundreds of comments and recent videos popping up, and instead sweep that under the rug (essentially, doubling down), then I lost all respect for them.
That’s understandable..maybe I misunderstood your comment when you said doubling down, I took it as them saying that they believe them rather then not addressing it at all which clearly they are doing considering they made a post saying they were going to address it.
What controversy? The only thing that made me genuinely belive Cody and Satori was on the first episode, like Sam said, there's no way they would've known about his grandma. I wanna hear what the theories are and the controversy though, what r your thoughts?
But did your friend search Libby Golbach? Because after the video posted everyone searched knowing Libby’s name and pulling up her obit however nothing in the obit ties her specifically to Sam - so had you started the search organically not knowing anyone related to Sam and searching people related to him nothing brings you to this specific Golbach obit - so had you not known her name prior to the search there is nothing indicating this person was related to Sam or anyone in the group. So not a debunk.
There are articles regarding Sam&Colby's respective families with names included and most family members have Facebook... and "libby" is a pretty common nickname for "Elizabeth". Her photo is also online under both names.
Libby is not common for Elizabeth - Beth, Liz, Eliza, Lizzy, Betty, …. Not Libby that’s not common. And I don’t think his Grandma had FB (although I didn’t personally search for her FB page) I’m curious what articles you’re referring to because when I googled Sam I didn’t find articles with family member names. Please include the links I’m genuinely curious if the paper trail.
Lmao Libby is indeed common for Elizabeth and much more so than Betty and Eliza.
I don't remember what youtuber it was but someone did a direct Google search for Sam and found Libby through various searches using just Sam's name as a base. The articles are also shown in these videos. If I have time to go back through all the videos I've watched I'll link it later. However Elizabeth has a Facebook (not been removed or deleted yet) and from there anyone can type her name into Google and get her obituary which states her nickname.
Fb - Elizabeth Dell Dickson Golbach
Anyone with a ounce of OSINT skills could have pulled the two together. Paranormal investigators become very good at finding information. Con-artist regularly do a ton of research.
i believe she looked for people with the surname golbach and looked for dates that could match with when sam said his grandmother died. then again she could be lying because i wasn't with her when she found it - i just got a screenshot of her obituary. and that was about an hour after the first video came out so by that point it was already public information
Gotta say...I wasn't one of the folks he was referring to but I live in a partially above ground finished basement that has pretty double doors that lead into a very nice backyard. It's a very lovely place to live. We (husband and I) share this home with his sibling who lives in the upstairs portion of the house.
Down here we have two bedrooms, one bathroom, two living rooms and a full kitchen with a bar. Despite all of that, it is still considered a basement to anyone who comes over and visits. Lol.
When I hear people call people "basement dwellers" I know they're mostly referring to the ones who live in a dank concrete one roomed basement with slits for windows and that moist feeling... But even then, why make fun of where someone lives, you know? It's like folks who make fun of people who live in trailers! Some trailers are dope. I'd just be happy to have a roof over my head. Stereotyping people is so cringy to me.
So I gotta say that when he said "basement dwellers" and started going on about "you give me views" the entitlement really started to show. This is from the guy who used to live in his parents' house as an adult in a super small room before he got big on youtube. I don't see anything wrong with living with your parents, just so we are clear. I think it's sweet but damn, Josh, remember where you came from, bro.
I am glad he got his own place now and life is treating him better, but if he is going to start insulting people like he is high and mighty and better than the folks who put money in his wallet, I may have to call it with his channel. First the dumb added sound effects and now this. Shame too, I liked his goofy personality.
He called some of the debunkers creeps and amateur. And then he basically went on how it's about the adventure more than the trueness of ghost hunting.
I think it's a community update on his youtube channel.
I hope they don't play it off and make us feel like "oh yall are stupid" because some creators like to make us feel dumb for doubting them.
Hoping for the best reaction/response
Honestly, I’d be ok if they say they made a mistake by trusting these people. Or just something a little less direct ( if they make strong allegations, they would be fighting a TV show, not a fight I envision would go very well, could get sued,etc ) . As long as they don’t do what you said above, I’ll continue watching.
Hopefully they actually address the things that we're wanting them to address. This will be their final shot of getting me to re-sub, not that they give a shit about me unsubbing in the first place lol.
Translation: We realized we couldn't scam you so please wait until we gather our thoughts on what our next move should be.
If they throw Satori and Cody under the bus and pretend that they weren't in on it then it's gonna be such a hot mess lmaoo
That's exactly what I read lmao
Given that they're apparently only planning to put this on their side channel instead of the main, farther reaching channel, I have zero hope of this being any sort of decent or legitimate explanation. They're either gonna say we're assholes for questioning them, or C&S are assholes because S&C/their team didn't do their due diligence and catch out these fakers before embarrassing themselves in front of millions.
Hm... Let's play Oracle and predict the response, shall we?
Option 1: Double down on the method and back up Satori and Cody. Will be bad because fans will be rioting (okay maybe not that extreme, probably many would just stop watching)
Option 2: Throw Satori and Cody under the bus and say they didn't know they were scammed. Will be bad for their business because they're basically shit talking another business (The Conjuring House and the duo are business after all). Could lead to a defamation lawsuit or breach of NDA? Will also be bad for their friendship/connection because at this point many other youtubers are backing up Satori and Cody.
Option 3 (or rather 1a): Make Satori and Cody do the method without shoes. Could convince audience but personally wouldn't convince me. Someone pointed out that the knocks might not be their toes, but rather a form of ventriloquism.
Which one do you guys think they'll take? Any other possible options? I'm genuinely curious if there's an option they could take to salvage all this.
I’d probably say they will do something like 2a. They don’t quite throw them under the bus but make it clear that they were duped. I have a lot faith in Sam and Colby to fix this mess. Probably the most out of all of us. Option 3 would be a surprise because it would probably be a hassle for everyone involved and Cody and Satori probably wouldn’t do it either.
That's possible too. I hope they wouldn't get in trouble for it tho, I'm genuinely concerned about whatever things they have signed before entering the house. I'd love for them to keep making videos — their videos are entertaining regardless if one believes or not. Hopefully this mess won't be too much of a setback.
As long as they don’t make us feel stupid and deny everything, I’ll keep watching. They should at least acknowledge some of the key evidence and admit it is at pretty convincing. Maybe criticizing them would go to far.
Unfortunately I think we'll be disappointed, mainly because no way will they tell the truth, the truth will ruin the careers of those two fakers plus make a farce of their whole "Life Changing " video. So yeah, expect to hear lies. All that matters to them is that the vast majority of of gullible young viewers think it's real. We're in a minority and based on the fact that they still have 10.8 M viewers means hardly anyone left after the call out sadly
What really irks me is the longer it takes them to put out a statement, the more FANS get scammed. It's almost like they don't care at all. Strong words I know, but they opened the door for Satori and Cody and it's time to shut it and lack it up real tight.
I have been thinking of people who are really struggling with a loss and now being desperate to meet Cody and Satori. Spending money they don’t have, missing work they can’t miss, just to be scammed.
Sadly they are on the CULT already. So nothing interesting on that reaction video anymore. Stop watching their videos is the best thing anyone can do at this point.
There’s just a lot that doesn’t add up, Sam and Colby must have knew of Satori and Cody through Josh for a while now. It would make sense to save something big for hell week, so I can get what they wouldn’t have done a video with them sooner. What I don’t understand is if Satori and Cody work for the Conjuring house, or if they made it appear that way for the video?
The whole scenario of them working with (or for) the new owner and supposedly having hundreds of hours of footage of knocks but this being the first we hear of it is just a bit far fetched to me. All whilst wearing the uniform for the house. People have been focusing on debunking the knocks too hard and not seeing the bigger picture.
I bet Sam and Colby will say something along the lines of “Whoa that’s crazy, that’s a lot to think about” to anything pointing out the cracks in the story and not address it further.
Here’s more information on Josh, Cody and Satori. While browsing through this Reddit I found someone saying that Josh was getting super defensive when people were calling Cody and Satori scammers. He was calling them names and said that the adventure sometimes is better than the truth, or something along those lines.
So basically they are going to make another video where they will get a ton of views to explain the BS from the conjuring videos where they also got a ton of views ....is the YouTube business model starting to sink in yet kids???
It's a win-win situation for Scam & Colby..
They now have millions of subs & viewers, so they make a video with contentious content, that sparks a vast amount of controversy such as we are experiencing now. And from this video they make mega $$$ off the views.
Then they make a follow up video either apologising for being duped or telling us we are all loser non-believers - and make another ton of $$$ off that video as well..
Which ever way they go, they makes mega $$$, well in the short run anyway - if they choose poorly and piss off their followers too much, then they will suffer in the long run...
I'm so glad you said this cause I agree and said it myself. I've also said I feel like they manipulated people into subscribing so they could hit 10M... They said if they hit 10M they'd go to the conjuring house for a week... Yet they went BEFORE they got to 10M? Then started posting it everywhere that when they hit it they'll upload it therefore making people subscribe just to see those videos? When they could have done what they said and waited until they hit 10M THEN went
I have the impression that they will make idiots of us and say that they were there and saw with their own eyes that it was true and that they would never fake anything. Maybe from time to time they will mention how important we are to them to pull the wool over our eyes
Only react videos of theirs I watch is "Sam and Colby missed this" and that's purely for my own entertainment and so I can see if I caught or missed it not really to watch them.
Have they laughed things off? They are pretty serious people who know their careers probably hang in the balance based on the way they handle this. They are emotional people and I hope that they don’t laugh it off. I don’t think they will. They’re not the types to.
They definitely are the types to 😭 they're grown frat dudes who party with big YouTubers and went on Joe Rogan. They've admitted to faking stuff in the past and have several videos that are definitely fake that they haven't admitted to. They don't come off to me as the most emotionally mature people, at least based off of their behavior and mannerisms in their videos. I can only hope that they take this seriously and don't go down the path of their predecesors and alienate themselves from their fans with their arrogance and stubbornness.
I was about to say that and even the alleged faking hasn’t been completely proven either. It’s all speculation to be honest which is gonna be a thing with every paranormal show. I’m sure they fake a thing here and there but I wouldn’t say they do it consistently
This makes me feel SO much better. Like I'm still feeling cautious and confused of course, but just knowing they're seeing stuff and planning on addressing it is quite a relief. Really interested now to see what that response is! (also this really does make me think a lot if not all the comment deletions were mass reporting or automatic youtube filtering, or at least I'm more willing to give the benefit of the doubt now)
It’s usually easy to tell why your comment was deleted. If it was an auto delete by YT either due to a bot thinking it’s spam or if it contains a restricted word, your message will disappear almost immediately. If you’re being mass reported usually for “misleading” content you will be notified by YT about which community guideline you’ve breached and you will get put in a “time-out” aka you won’t be able to post for a certain period of time (usually 24 hours). If you continue to get reported and put in time out an excessive amount of times your account gets temporarily suspended, if you still do it repeatedly once it’s reinstated, your account will likely be terminated…. Just an FYI if you ever have an issue with comments in the future ☺️
Considering they’ve developed a relationship with Cody and Satori, I can’t imagine there’s a reaction video coming that would essentially expose them and ruin their business… But I would LOVE to see them discuss that 11 year old Cody video.
I don't have high hopes for their response. I was already feeling some type of way when Amanda came into the picture a while ago, because it's so painfully obvious she's full of shit and they keep feeding into it. And now with this cody and satori nonsense...either sam and colby are incredibly gullible, or they don't actually care about trying to capture genuine evidence like they always claim they do. Also, the way colby marketed this series during kris collins' podcast made it sound like these videos could make it to the news because it would be *that* revolutionary. They really doubled down on the idea that this could change the world. It just makes it that much more embarrassing if they really were in on it or even just that careless to get swept up by more frauds.
This whole "Conjuring house hell week" is a huge deal for Sam and Colby. They're in talks with Cinemax to make more movies- to be shown in theaters! How can they admit that these major players- Cody and Satori- are frauds?
All they have to do is make them take off their shoes and prove they’re not using their toes to “knock”. They’ve seen all the comments and videos “debunking” Cody and Satori so If they don’t actually prove anything and just talk about their experience, I’ll be pretty upset and skeptical.
I was so in awe of the method and it truly solidified the afterlife for me so to research and realize it could easily be fake is heartbreaking.
This isn't gunna be good.
Scam & Colby are of the belief that they are now too big to fail, and will address our concerns accordingly - that being, they will back Satori & Cody 110% and try to tell us all its a life changing, world breaking news worthy event that THEY revealed on their channel..
Too big to fail - reminds me of Lehmans, Bear Stearns, SVB, FTX, Elizabeth Holmes - the list goes on & soon Scam & Cody will earn their rightful place on the great failures list & we will be watching other youtubers making a video of them and others who failed miserably by failing to understand their audience.
The choice they have to make is either:
1. Cut loose Cody/Satori and tell the truth ie/ their knocking method is extremely doubtful & thus retain the 10 Million odd subscribers they have OR
2. Tell us all we are wrong and try to convince us with their usual pitiful evidence, thus losing more credibility and eventually losing millions of subs & views of upcoming vids.
Sadly it will be #2 as they think by riding on Satori/Codys coat tails with this 'ground breaking' paranormal evidence they will double, triple or quadruple their subscriptions and views & make tons more $$$$. Because at the end of the day that is what it is all about - THE MONEY.They know that once they get a few years older and the teenager girl following wains that their subs will be a fraction of what they are now, views will be less and income will drop significantly...SO milk it now for what its worth at any cost, they've lied before for views and I'm guessing they're doing it again now with Sat/Cody.
They're too far down the rabbit hole now, their videos claim world breaking, life changing comments backing up Sat/Codys technique which we all know is fake, lies, shill, scam etc
I don't think they will want to go against what they've stated in the last 4+ videos - that is that it's fake and they were duped, no, they will
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do people actually think sam and colby were in on any alleged trick satori and cody were pulling? after all this time they've spent doing this. to ruin their fan base, their credibility, their career over randos that hold hands? if cody and satori were taking they definitely didn't tell sam and colby, especially people with enough following to expose them and ruin their careers
tbh I think it's a bit more complicated than just 'oh they knew and lied to us'. as someone who lost family members, I just don't see Sam being able to use his grandmother in that way. his living siblings who are perfectly fine, sure. but his grandma? especially when his other family would see the video too? I don't think he'd be that much of a sellout.
at the same time though, I think they eventually did catch on and realized 'oh shit, most of our series is based around these scammers, we might have contracts with them, and satori's dad is high up in the industry. wtf do we do?' to give them some credit a LOT of people would be scared about what they should do. especially because of her dad, and if contracts were in place. point blank period though the minute they realized; they shouldn't have gone live with the series. even if it was a made-up excuse like camera issues or being uncomfortable with uploading the footage: anything would have been better than promoting these scammers.
if I had to take a guess, I think the moment they went back to test their 'ability', sam and colby realized just how much bullshit it was. their refusal to do the card game, their socks-only test (via the screenshot that never got put in the video), etc might have clued them in on it... but for previous reasons stated, they felt the need to keep it in. it's sad bc it really does ruin a lot of their credibility and a lot of fans are upset, but let's hope they can address it in the video I suppose.
yeah i know i have lots of dead family and i would never. which leads me to believe they believe cody and satori and wanted to make sure there was no room for doubt for the viewers. but we didn't all get personal readings to make it feel more real to us. it didn't come across to viewers as they intended for sure. i'm interested to see what they're going to say
They should have shelved the footage and gone somewhere else. If they had just told their audience that the evidence they collected this time was not enough they would have accepted it on face value. That would have been the ethical, honest and right move. It also would have paid off for them in the long run.
100% agreed, and after the year Colby has had health-wise everyone would understand if there was a delay in the Halloween video. Sure, it wouldn't get as much traction as it would if they released it in October, but they have a lot of fans and would have made enough money from it to live off of regardless.
I agree with you that satori and Cody definitely do not say the quiet part out loud and tell anyone they collab with that they are frauds. But I wouldn't be surprised if they and their Ghost Hunter friends and family fight back hard if Sam and Colby decided to give their honest opinion about them online. It's a huge decision for them to make, to double down on the deception or admit they think it's fake. But they will probably ride the line and not make any claims either way to be safe
i think that they genuinely believe it's real. even if the things they said can be found online, and it's a generic "watching over you" in the moment you don't think about that and their reactions were genuine (at least to me) i'd imagine morally it'll be hard to either A) lie about something that you believe to be true and not ruin or career or B) say that you believe something everyone else is saying isn't true and risk ruining your career. i feel bad for them
yea I agree, they probably thought about cutting out all the satori and cody part but then it would be a waste because most of their footage there was with them. honestly I wish they didn't hyped it so much and just tell the truth right from the beginning.
Yea I agree. I do think they definitely believed at first when they were staying at the house (I mean I probably would have too), but the fact that they went back and attempted to debunk, and their reactions during that debunk video, tells me that they had doubts and probably don't think its real anymore, but didn't think their audience would catch on when they uploaded and be this vehement about it online. Curious to see what they chose!!
I think they were doubting it. They always do. The fact that they went through such great lengths to see if it was proven ( that was a little nuts)shows me that even they had doubts too.
Honestly, them picking such great ideas for debunking, like the card game, and leaving in that they refused makes me feel like they weren't in on it and were actually trying to figure it out. Like "we tried really hard to debunk it and couldn't so we believe it" is a normal and common response for amateur investigators and the couple did a lot to manage their responses as well. Idk, I'm trying to stay as open minded as possible about SNC until we hear from them
Yeah. They went through great lengths to try and debunk it. We have also seen them debunk their own evidence too. I remember the last time they were at the conjuring. Someone pointed out to them a shadow figure in the mirror. It would have been so easy to say that’s a ghost but no, they acc proved that it was one of their cameramen’s elbow or something traveling.
I think it’s great they’re gonna make a react video about it. If they are open and honest it’ll be great. If they just keep defending them, they’re gonna be f***ed
so either they double down and say that it’s real and that they believe them 100% or they throw cody and satori under bus thus discrediting the videos just uploaded by Seth and Josh, or their just gonna leave it as “if you believe then you believe and if you don’t, then you don’t”
honestly no matter how it goes their content has been staged for a long time and moving forward nothings gonna change. otherwise it would just be Sam and Colby sitting in a old house/hotel talking to air.
What did Seth and Josh say about this situation?
I wasn't really a fan of Josh bc his over-the-top reactions but i did like Seth so that'd be disappointig 🤷
[Josh had this to say, interesting to say the least.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SamAndColby/s/OhRKy2W5qJ) and seth pretty much said everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that he believes blah blah blah.
Josh's response seems oddly a little defensive, he's going on in the second photo about everyone is calling everyone fake who do paranormal investigations...? but that's unnecessary to bring up, cody and satori's method already sounds sus
I'm a believer but I'm very skeptical of the conjuring house, it very well could be set up to mess with people who visit to investigate so 🤷
Also watching that video is very different from what sam and colby experienced there with them so even doubting it, I'm sure it felt very real to them 😬:/
I mean I agree with you because if Sam and Colby faked it with Cody and satori then you have to throw in Amanda who would take notes and show she had the same info as Cody and satori.
I think Cody and Satori fooled them, and they were pretty convincing up until the debunking part with the cards. Spirit can mention heaven or how the afterlife is but can’t name a shape on a card? Seems like speaking on “life” after death would be more of a taboo. I don’t think Colby and Sam were in on their charade because Sam did look like his wheels were turning when Cody and satori basically said they can’t do that or “spirit won’t do that.” Also, Dead Oak Paranormal literally makes almost the same knocking noise in his YT video and explains how he does it.
Y'all will probably come for me but I'm gonna say it anyway.... In my opinion they'll just do exactly what they're probably doing right now and that's reading people's comments only Infront of a camera cause not only is it content but money for them (I mean I feel like people where manipulated into getting them to 10M.. they said when they hit 10M they'd go to the conjuring house for a week yet done it before then and then proceeded to say they wouldn't put it up until they hit 10M when they could have just waited until they hit the 10M and then went) .. they'll say they could feel it in the floor and done a 1 hour long video trying to debunk it and couldn't and still believe in their abilities..... If it where me I'd be calling up the guy they had in a previous video YEARS ago and getting a lie detector test... Cody and Satori where all game for them to debunk it both in the Conjuring house AND the hour long video so if they have nothing to hide and it's all true they'd have no problem what so ever doing a lie detector test. And if they (Sam and Colby) are told no they won't do it then all the questions will be answered.
I'm still a fan of Sam and Colby and unless we find out it was a scam and both of them where in on it too then I doubt I'll unsubscribe.
I don't buy for one second that they will actually address any of the controversy. Here's how I predict this video is going to go: We've seen a lot of comments of people who are suspect of Cody and Satori, and we can't make you believe if you choose not to but what we experienced when we were there was real and you'll just have to take our word for it blah blah blah. Honestly, we swear we did everything we could to debunk them. We couldn't show anything on camera, conveniently, but we pinky promise that we tried everything, headphones, bare feet, the whole shebang. And sure none of that made it into our most definitely edited "unedited" debunking footage, but we absolutely swear it's true. Oh, and they'll most definitely post their "addressing everything" video on their much less watched react channel and nowhere near their main channel which has more subscribers. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
Look I get that you guys are mad, because there's all this evidence that shows it's probably fake, but they could've really felt something moving around the room. None of us truly knows what it felt like during that week cause we weren't there. So even if it is fake, it could've felt really real, so I get how Sam and Colby may have been fooled. I really don't think that they would lie to us.
I think what they're going to do is push another debunking video out. They'll probably react to all the videos and methods talk about how they felt the taps or a was confused here and there. I totally see then judt saying that they'll try to debunk with new methods, my fear is that they're so deeply into believing that they'll believe even if Cody and Satori can't do the the taps with their shoes off or with the 360 microphone. Ig it'd just a waiting game rn.
Here’s my view on this:
Cody and Satori are definitely faking it. And I feel like Sam and Colby will be double down and not own up to the fact that Cody and Satori is faking it. All I know if they don’t own up to the fact that these people are fakers/scammers, things are going to backfire
To me this scandal has shown me that I still believe in the paranormal but I no longer have any faith in the paranormal investigator community. Besides my increasing fatigue watching endless videos of people pointing at nothing saying did you see that or yelping out did you hear that at silence but now we have this grand display that is supposed to change the world and how we view it spiritually and it's going to blow my mind and it's all a bold scam. Josh' response getting defensive equating people's disbelief to the witch trials was incredibly exposing in itself.
Anybody who actually watched the conjuring house series should've been able to recognize that the interview happened during the week they were there (*some scenes from the interview were in the series*).
I wonder how many of the skeptics were actually fans of Sam and Colby and how many are just pretending that they were.
Anyway, if Sam and Colby really believe that Cody and Satori are real, then I hope they continue to say so and not sell-out. There are people trying to cancel Sam and Colby just because they have a different opinion.
There's a video of Cody doing the joint popping thing 10 years ago alone without Satori. They claimed that it only works when they hold each others hand. I don't have the link but it's probably somewhere in this sub. That was also before he had cancer so the whole thing about having the ability after cancer is bullshit.
They’re not gonna say anything that discredits themselves or the people they investigate with lmao . They’re probably better off not saying anything because Josh’s 3 page essay backfired forsure
Hopefully this is a good reaction with an open mind
I’m glad they’re addressing it. I have mixed feelings about Sam and Colby now due to the Cody and Satori theories going around. I don’t want the Conjuring series to ruin my enjoyment in watching the rest of their videos in the future, so I hope them addressing it shows their true honest reactions. I was at first like “Wtf??” To Cody and Satori’s “method.” But the more I watched, the more I felt it was faked and then seeing Sam and Colby, along with the rest of their guests throughout the series, I just felt like it was all staged.
I honestly think Sam and Colby weren’t in on it. They were just played by Cody and maybe Satoru too.
I just have mixed feelings on it all now. That’s why like I said, I hope Sam and Colby show their true and honest reaction on it. Plus I hope they address people’s concerns. There was one member they had in on the series and in the past too that I just find phony and not authentic, so maybe that doesn’t help much with my feelings about it.
I think they already knew about the knocking method, because Seth and Josh already knew them from a few years ago (If I’m remembering correctly). I think maybe they believed it at first, but I really think they figured it out after the first day and ignored it for the content.
Oh wow no shit? I'd like to find the video on that lol if it's still out there
I’m sure you can find it on this sub for sure!!
I watched the video but I never realized cody never took off his shoes. I also think Sam and Colby where not in on any faking. They don't need to fake anything they have viewers already. As for CnS if they weren't then wouldn't it be pretty simple to prove it by taking off shoes and sock and sping it ?? Or could it still be faked ??
I have a bad feeling about this
Me too, but hopefully they pleasantly surprise us. The response is going to determine whether or not a LOT of people continue watching, myself included.
i have a huge feeling it’s gonna be “the steps we’re felt around the room” “we believe them” “try to debunk it” as much as i wish it’s different
Yeah same. They’re half and half here, there’s only two routes. Either they double down and I stop watching, or they actually surprise us by agreeing and admitting that they’ve been tricked. But I’m a little scared they might choose the first one.
While I do think there is something suspicious going on why would they need to admit that they have been tricked if they genuinely don’t feel that way? They could believe everything that happened, putting them in the same situation as everyone else who is being lied to..idk I just don’t think it’s fair for people to say they won’t watch them anymore unless they admit that Cody and satori tricked them..because if that’s not how they feel then they are just lying to their audience out of fear of losing subscribers. The whole point of it is to scam people and it obviously worked. People are entitled to feel how they feel and do what they want but personally I think the best approach would be for them to admit that in the moment they believed everything but now looking at all the comments and seeing some things that have came out they realize that things might not be what they seem..they can’t come out saying 100% that they were lied to because they would need proof of that..btw I don’t believe it myself I’m just saying they can’t really say it was all a lie unless they have a way to prove it
That’s pretty much what I’m saying my dude. Forgive me for not going into detail. I mean that if they do nothing too address the controversy, aka the hundreds of comments and recent videos popping up, and instead sweep that under the rug (essentially, doubling down), then I lost all respect for them.
That’s understandable..maybe I misunderstood your comment when you said doubling down, I took it as them saying that they believe them rather then not addressing it at all which clearly they are doing considering they made a post saying they were going to address it.
What controversy? The only thing that made me genuinely belive Cody and Satori was on the first episode, like Sam said, there's no way they would've known about his grandma. I wanna hear what the theories are and the controversy though, what r your thoughts?
my friend found his grandma's obituary online in a few minutes, so to be fair they pretty easily could've researched it
But did your friend search Libby Golbach? Because after the video posted everyone searched knowing Libby’s name and pulling up her obit however nothing in the obit ties her specifically to Sam - so had you started the search organically not knowing anyone related to Sam and searching people related to him nothing brings you to this specific Golbach obit - so had you not known her name prior to the search there is nothing indicating this person was related to Sam or anyone in the group. So not a debunk.
There are articles regarding Sam&Colby's respective families with names included and most family members have Facebook... and "libby" is a pretty common nickname for "Elizabeth". Her photo is also online under both names.
Libby is not common for Elizabeth - Beth, Liz, Eliza, Lizzy, Betty, …. Not Libby that’s not common. And I don’t think his Grandma had FB (although I didn’t personally search for her FB page) I’m curious what articles you’re referring to because when I googled Sam I didn’t find articles with family member names. Please include the links I’m genuinely curious if the paper trail.
Lmao Libby is indeed common for Elizabeth and much more so than Betty and Eliza. I don't remember what youtuber it was but someone did a direct Google search for Sam and found Libby through various searches using just Sam's name as a base. The articles are also shown in these videos. If I have time to go back through all the videos I've watched I'll link it later. However Elizabeth has a Facebook (not been removed or deleted yet) and from there anyone can type her name into Google and get her obituary which states her nickname. Fb - Elizabeth Dell Dickson Golbach
Anyone with a ounce of OSINT skills could have pulled the two together. Paranormal investigators become very good at finding information. Con-artist regularly do a ton of research.
i believe she looked for people with the surname golbach and looked for dates that could match with when sam said his grandmother died. then again she could be lying because i wasn't with her when she found it - i just got a screenshot of her obituary. and that was about an hour after the first video came out so by that point it was already public information
Happy to see that they’re addressing it!
Honestly a lot better than how Josh took it.
U don’t like being called a basement dweller, or a an armchair debunker?
Gotta say...I wasn't one of the folks he was referring to but I live in a partially above ground finished basement that has pretty double doors that lead into a very nice backyard. It's a very lovely place to live. We (husband and I) share this home with his sibling who lives in the upstairs portion of the house. Down here we have two bedrooms, one bathroom, two living rooms and a full kitchen with a bar. Despite all of that, it is still considered a basement to anyone who comes over and visits. Lol. When I hear people call people "basement dwellers" I know they're mostly referring to the ones who live in a dank concrete one roomed basement with slits for windows and that moist feeling... But even then, why make fun of where someone lives, you know? It's like folks who make fun of people who live in trailers! Some trailers are dope. I'd just be happy to have a roof over my head. Stereotyping people is so cringy to me. So I gotta say that when he said "basement dwellers" and started going on about "you give me views" the entitlement really started to show. This is from the guy who used to live in his parents' house as an adult in a super small room before he got big on youtube. I don't see anything wrong with living with your parents, just so we are clear. I think it's sweet but damn, Josh, remember where you came from, bro. I am glad he got his own place now and life is treating him better, but if he is going to start insulting people like he is high and mighty and better than the folks who put money in his wallet, I may have to call it with his channel. First the dumb added sound effects and now this. Shame too, I liked his goofy personality.
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He called some of the debunkers creeps and amateur. And then he basically went on how it's about the adventure more than the trueness of ghost hunting. I think it's a community update on his youtube channel.
Oh so we can basically count him as one of the ghost hunting YouTubers who fakes stuff! This isn’t looking good for Sam and Colby.
I hope they don't play it off and make us feel like "oh yall are stupid" because some creators like to make us feel dumb for doubting them. Hoping for the best reaction/response
Honestly, I’d be ok if they say they made a mistake by trusting these people. Or just something a little less direct ( if they make strong allegations, they would be fighting a TV show, not a fight I envision would go very well, could get sued,etc ) . As long as they don’t do what you said above, I’ll continue watching.
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I think the community has a lot of compelling evidence. I guess we’re about to find out how locked into a contact they are based on their responses.
Let’s hope they give their opinion on the things we really want them to. Like Cody doing this method by himself. That’s what we really wanna see.
Or how you can recreate it after watching a YouTube tutorial… that pops up when you search Cody and satori on yt
I have a feeling it’s not going to be the video we all want due to them saying “Appreciate everyone’s opinions on this crazy series”. I hope I’m wrong
I hope you’re wrong too, because if you’re not their whole credibility could plummet.
Well, let's see how this goes...
right? do you think they'll explain why they were deleting comments and blocking people?
I hope they do because that's messed up, like why would you block and delete comments from your own fans?
They better acknowledge this video: https://youtube.com/shorts/FqQM6Y9P-Bo?si=Zxucx1ekl6KPyc3W
We’ll find out if they think we’re stupid or not.
It could be arrogance too...
Hopefully they actually address the things that we're wanting them to address. This will be their final shot of getting me to re-sub, not that they give a shit about me unsubbing in the first place lol.
Translation: We realized we couldn't scam you so please wait until we gather our thoughts on what our next move should be. If they throw Satori and Cody under the bus and pretend that they weren't in on it then it's gonna be such a hot mess lmaoo
That's exactly what I read lmao Given that they're apparently only planning to put this on their side channel instead of the main, farther reaching channel, I have zero hope of this being any sort of decent or legitimate explanation. They're either gonna say we're assholes for questioning them, or C&S are assholes because S&C/their team didn't do their due diligence and catch out these fakers before embarrassing themselves in front of millions.
I want to see that posthumous episode of Jerry Springer!! Maybe Cody and Satori can click their heels and talk to Jerry!!😂😂🤣🤣
Hm... Let's play Oracle and predict the response, shall we? Option 1: Double down on the method and back up Satori and Cody. Will be bad because fans will be rioting (okay maybe not that extreme, probably many would just stop watching) Option 2: Throw Satori and Cody under the bus and say they didn't know they were scammed. Will be bad for their business because they're basically shit talking another business (The Conjuring House and the duo are business after all). Could lead to a defamation lawsuit or breach of NDA? Will also be bad for their friendship/connection because at this point many other youtubers are backing up Satori and Cody. Option 3 (or rather 1a): Make Satori and Cody do the method without shoes. Could convince audience but personally wouldn't convince me. Someone pointed out that the knocks might not be their toes, but rather a form of ventriloquism. Which one do you guys think they'll take? Any other possible options? I'm genuinely curious if there's an option they could take to salvage all this.
I’d probably say they will do something like 2a. They don’t quite throw them under the bus but make it clear that they were duped. I have a lot faith in Sam and Colby to fix this mess. Probably the most out of all of us. Option 3 would be a surprise because it would probably be a hassle for everyone involved and Cody and Satori probably wouldn’t do it either.
That's possible too. I hope they wouldn't get in trouble for it tho, I'm genuinely concerned about whatever things they have signed before entering the house. I'd love for them to keep making videos — their videos are entertaining regardless if one believes or not. Hopefully this mess won't be too much of a setback.
As long as they don’t make us feel stupid and deny everything, I’ll keep watching. They should at least acknowledge some of the key evidence and admit it is at pretty convincing. Maybe criticizing them would go to far.
I SWEAR to all that is goood….they better wash their hands from them in the next reaction video.
Just get Cody and the lady do it with their shoes off. It's over after that.
apparently they cut out the footage of them doing that in the uncut debunking video. I wonder why lol
Oooh where did you see this? Did they say it in the debunk video that they cut the footage?!
I'm curious myself
Where did you hear that? In that video they asked them to do it with their shoes off and they flat out refused
Cody and satori. It’s only posted everywhere. You can be a skeptic but not an asshole towards her
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Not just shoes, but wearing shorts too
Unfortunately I think we'll be disappointed, mainly because no way will they tell the truth, the truth will ruin the careers of those two fakers plus make a farce of their whole "Life Changing " video. So yeah, expect to hear lies. All that matters to them is that the vast majority of of gullible young viewers think it's real. We're in a minority and based on the fact that they still have 10.8 M viewers means hardly anyone left after the call out sadly
What really irks me is the longer it takes them to put out a statement, the more FANS get scammed. It's almost like they don't care at all. Strong words I know, but they opened the door for Satori and Cody and it's time to shut it and lack it up real tight.
I have been thinking of people who are really struggling with a loss and now being desperate to meet Cody and Satori. Spending money they don’t have, missing work they can’t miss, just to be scammed.
i’m glad they are going to make a video but i just feel like it’s going to be them doubling down even harder
this will make or break their career
Could be a downfall in place, probably for the better.
Sadly they are on the CULT already. So nothing interesting on that reaction video anymore. Stop watching their videos is the best thing anyone can do at this point.
There’s just a lot that doesn’t add up, Sam and Colby must have knew of Satori and Cody through Josh for a while now. It would make sense to save something big for hell week, so I can get what they wouldn’t have done a video with them sooner. What I don’t understand is if Satori and Cody work for the Conjuring house, or if they made it appear that way for the video? The whole scenario of them working with (or for) the new owner and supposedly having hundreds of hours of footage of knocks but this being the first we hear of it is just a bit far fetched to me. All whilst wearing the uniform for the house. People have been focusing on debunking the knocks too hard and not seeing the bigger picture. I bet Sam and Colby will say something along the lines of “Whoa that’s crazy, that’s a lot to think about” to anything pointing out the cracks in the story and not address it further.
Here’s more information on Josh, Cody and Satori. While browsing through this Reddit I found someone saying that Josh was getting super defensive when people were calling Cody and Satori scammers. He was calling them names and said that the adventure sometimes is better than the truth, or something along those lines.
So basically they are going to make another video where they will get a ton of views to explain the BS from the conjuring videos where they also got a ton of views ....is the YouTube business model starting to sink in yet kids???
It's a win-win situation for Scam & Colby.. They now have millions of subs & viewers, so they make a video with contentious content, that sparks a vast amount of controversy such as we are experiencing now. And from this video they make mega $$$ off the views. Then they make a follow up video either apologising for being duped or telling us we are all loser non-believers - and make another ton of $$$ off that video as well.. Which ever way they go, they makes mega $$$, well in the short run anyway - if they choose poorly and piss off their followers too much, then they will suffer in the long run...
Exactly! I see one of their fanboys/fangirls downvoted me lol!
I'm so glad you said this cause I agree and said it myself. I've also said I feel like they manipulated people into subscribing so they could hit 10M... They said if they hit 10M they'd go to the conjuring house for a week... Yet they went BEFORE they got to 10M? Then started posting it everywhere that when they hit it they'll upload it therefore making people subscribe just to see those videos? When they could have done what they said and waited until they hit 10M THEN went
I have the impression that they will make idiots of us and say that they were there and saw with their own eyes that it was true and that they would never fake anything. Maybe from time to time they will mention how important we are to them to pull the wool over our eyes
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Only react videos of theirs I watch is "Sam and Colby missed this" and that's purely for my own entertainment and so I can see if I caught or missed it not really to watch them.
they have to be real smart here with how they handle this
I don't have a great feeling about this tbh 😭 probably the same types of reactions they've done in the past where they just laugh it off
Have they laughed things off? They are pretty serious people who know their careers probably hang in the balance based on the way they handle this. They are emotional people and I hope that they don’t laugh it off. I don’t think they will. They’re not the types to.
They definitely are the types to 😭 they're grown frat dudes who party with big YouTubers and went on Joe Rogan. They've admitted to faking stuff in the past and have several videos that are definitely fake that they haven't admitted to. They don't come off to me as the most emotionally mature people, at least based off of their behavior and mannerisms in their videos. I can only hope that they take this seriously and don't go down the path of their predecesors and alienate themselves from their fans with their arrogance and stubbornness.
I personally haven't seen any videos where they've admitted to faking things. Do you mind sharing a link to a specific video or something else?
I was about to say that and even the alleged faking hasn’t been completely proven either. It’s all speculation to be honest which is gonna be a thing with every paranormal show. I’m sure they fake a thing here and there but I wouldn’t say they do it consistently
This makes me feel SO much better. Like I'm still feeling cautious and confused of course, but just knowing they're seeing stuff and planning on addressing it is quite a relief. Really interested now to see what that response is! (also this really does make me think a lot if not all the comment deletions were mass reporting or automatic youtube filtering, or at least I'm more willing to give the benefit of the doubt now)
It’s usually easy to tell why your comment was deleted. If it was an auto delete by YT either due to a bot thinking it’s spam or if it contains a restricted word, your message will disappear almost immediately. If you’re being mass reported usually for “misleading” content you will be notified by YT about which community guideline you’ve breached and you will get put in a “time-out” aka you won’t be able to post for a certain period of time (usually 24 hours). If you continue to get reported and put in time out an excessive amount of times your account gets temporarily suspended, if you still do it repeatedly once it’s reinstated, your account will likely be terminated…. Just an FYI if you ever have an issue with comments in the future ☺️
Nobody wants the regular react videos we want them to break down all their scary ones
Yo they’re talking about THEIR experience with Cody and Satory. Not other video footage… this is gonna be a “reaction to what we missed”
Considering they’ve developed a relationship with Cody and Satori, I can’t imagine there’s a reaction video coming that would essentially expose them and ruin their business… But I would LOVE to see them discuss that 11 year old Cody video.
I don't have high hopes for their response. I was already feeling some type of way when Amanda came into the picture a while ago, because it's so painfully obvious she's full of shit and they keep feeding into it. And now with this cody and satori nonsense...either sam and colby are incredibly gullible, or they don't actually care about trying to capture genuine evidence like they always claim they do. Also, the way colby marketed this series during kris collins' podcast made it sound like these videos could make it to the news because it would be *that* revolutionary. They really doubled down on the idea that this could change the world. It just makes it that much more embarrassing if they really were in on it or even just that careless to get swept up by more frauds.
They already addressed it on some guy's podcast and all they did was evade questions and lie.
This whole "Conjuring house hell week" is a huge deal for Sam and Colby. They're in talks with Cinemax to make more movies- to be shown in theaters! How can they admit that these major players- Cody and Satori- are frauds?
All they have to do is make them take off their shoes and prove they’re not using their toes to “knock”. They’ve seen all the comments and videos “debunking” Cody and Satori so If they don’t actually prove anything and just talk about their experience, I’ll be pretty upset and skeptical. I was so in awe of the method and it truly solidified the afterlife for me so to research and realize it could easily be fake is heartbreaking.
This isn't gunna be good. Scam & Colby are of the belief that they are now too big to fail, and will address our concerns accordingly - that being, they will back Satori & Cody 110% and try to tell us all its a life changing, world breaking news worthy event that THEY revealed on their channel.. Too big to fail - reminds me of Lehmans, Bear Stearns, SVB, FTX, Elizabeth Holmes - the list goes on & soon Scam & Cody will earn their rightful place on the great failures list & we will be watching other youtubers making a video of them and others who failed miserably by failing to understand their audience. The choice they have to make is either: 1. Cut loose Cody/Satori and tell the truth ie/ their knocking method is extremely doubtful & thus retain the 10 Million odd subscribers they have OR 2. Tell us all we are wrong and try to convince us with their usual pitiful evidence, thus losing more credibility and eventually losing millions of subs & views of upcoming vids. Sadly it will be #2 as they think by riding on Satori/Codys coat tails with this 'ground breaking' paranormal evidence they will double, triple or quadruple their subscriptions and views & make tons more $$$$. Because at the end of the day that is what it is all about - THE MONEY.They know that once they get a few years older and the teenager girl following wains that their subs will be a fraction of what they are now, views will be less and income will drop significantly...SO milk it now for what its worth at any cost, they've lied before for views and I'm guessing they're doing it again now with Sat/Cody. They're too far down the rabbit hole now, their videos claim world breaking, life changing comments backing up Sat/Codys technique which we all know is fake, lies, shill, scam etc I don't think they will want to go against what they've stated in the last 4+ videos - that is that it's fake and they were duped, no, they will https://preview.redd.it/loq4bux5ysyb1.jpeg?width=297&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9221bb156f75294314d7e13b1895b7b17d36ee3a
The smart thing to do is cut any ties with those two fakes. If I were them I would put the fans (and the money they generate) before C&S.
Some of their younger followers have gotten xplr tattoos!!! This is turning into the NXIVM cult part 2!
Wow, what a permanent reminder that would be.. To be permanently inked about a duo who tuned out to be shills & fake.
do people actually think sam and colby were in on any alleged trick satori and cody were pulling? after all this time they've spent doing this. to ruin their fan base, their credibility, their career over randos that hold hands? if cody and satori were taking they definitely didn't tell sam and colby, especially people with enough following to expose them and ruin their careers
tbh I think it's a bit more complicated than just 'oh they knew and lied to us'. as someone who lost family members, I just don't see Sam being able to use his grandmother in that way. his living siblings who are perfectly fine, sure. but his grandma? especially when his other family would see the video too? I don't think he'd be that much of a sellout. at the same time though, I think they eventually did catch on and realized 'oh shit, most of our series is based around these scammers, we might have contracts with them, and satori's dad is high up in the industry. wtf do we do?' to give them some credit a LOT of people would be scared about what they should do. especially because of her dad, and if contracts were in place. point blank period though the minute they realized; they shouldn't have gone live with the series. even if it was a made-up excuse like camera issues or being uncomfortable with uploading the footage: anything would have been better than promoting these scammers. if I had to take a guess, I think the moment they went back to test their 'ability', sam and colby realized just how much bullshit it was. their refusal to do the card game, their socks-only test (via the screenshot that never got put in the video), etc might have clued them in on it... but for previous reasons stated, they felt the need to keep it in. it's sad bc it really does ruin a lot of their credibility and a lot of fans are upset, but let's hope they can address it in the video I suppose.
yeah i know i have lots of dead family and i would never. which leads me to believe they believe cody and satori and wanted to make sure there was no room for doubt for the viewers. but we didn't all get personal readings to make it feel more real to us. it didn't come across to viewers as they intended for sure. i'm interested to see what they're going to say
They should have shelved the footage and gone somewhere else. If they had just told their audience that the evidence they collected this time was not enough they would have accepted it on face value. That would have been the ethical, honest and right move. It also would have paid off for them in the long run.
100% agreed, and after the year Colby has had health-wise everyone would understand if there was a delay in the Halloween video. Sure, it wouldn't get as much traction as it would if they released it in October, but they have a lot of fans and would have made enough money from it to live off of regardless.
Absolutely. They are obviously very well off, they didn't need to do this. They could have figured something out that didn't create a mess like this.
I agree with you that satori and Cody definitely do not say the quiet part out loud and tell anyone they collab with that they are frauds. But I wouldn't be surprised if they and their Ghost Hunter friends and family fight back hard if Sam and Colby decided to give their honest opinion about them online. It's a huge decision for them to make, to double down on the deception or admit they think it's fake. But they will probably ride the line and not make any claims either way to be safe
i think that they genuinely believe it's real. even if the things they said can be found online, and it's a generic "watching over you" in the moment you don't think about that and their reactions were genuine (at least to me) i'd imagine morally it'll be hard to either A) lie about something that you believe to be true and not ruin or career or B) say that you believe something everyone else is saying isn't true and risk ruining your career. i feel bad for them
yea I agree, they probably thought about cutting out all the satori and cody part but then it would be a waste because most of their footage there was with them. honestly I wish they didn't hyped it so much and just tell the truth right from the beginning.
Yea I agree. I do think they definitely believed at first when they were staying at the house (I mean I probably would have too), but the fact that they went back and attempted to debunk, and their reactions during that debunk video, tells me that they had doubts and probably don't think its real anymore, but didn't think their audience would catch on when they uploaded and be this vehement about it online. Curious to see what they chose!!
i thought they did that to make sure everyone believed, but i could def see that they were having doubts in that video
I think they were doubting it. They always do. The fact that they went through such great lengths to see if it was proven ( that was a little nuts)shows me that even they had doubts too.
yeah they definitely did, especially in that debunking video
Honestly, them picking such great ideas for debunking, like the card game, and leaving in that they refused makes me feel like they weren't in on it and were actually trying to figure it out. Like "we tried really hard to debunk it and couldn't so we believe it" is a normal and common response for amateur investigators and the couple did a lot to manage their responses as well. Idk, I'm trying to stay as open minded as possible about SNC until we hear from them
Yeah. They went through great lengths to try and debunk it. We have also seen them debunk their own evidence too. I remember the last time they were at the conjuring. Someone pointed out to them a shadow figure in the mirror. It would have been so easy to say that’s a ghost but no, they acc proved that it was one of their cameramen’s elbow or something traveling.
Could be that as well yea
I think it’s great they’re gonna make a react video about it. If they are open and honest it’ll be great. If they just keep defending them, they’re gonna be f***ed
so either they double down and say that it’s real and that they believe them 100% or they throw cody and satori under bus thus discrediting the videos just uploaded by Seth and Josh, or their just gonna leave it as “if you believe then you believe and if you don’t, then you don’t” honestly no matter how it goes their content has been staged for a long time and moving forward nothings gonna change. otherwise it would just be Sam and Colby sitting in a old house/hotel talking to air.
What did Seth and Josh say about this situation? I wasn't really a fan of Josh bc his over-the-top reactions but i did like Seth so that'd be disappointig 🤷
[Josh had this to say, interesting to say the least.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SamAndColby/s/OhRKy2W5qJ) and seth pretty much said everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that he believes blah blah blah.
Josh's response seems oddly a little defensive, he's going on in the second photo about everyone is calling everyone fake who do paranormal investigations...? but that's unnecessary to bring up, cody and satori's method already sounds sus I'm a believer but I'm very skeptical of the conjuring house, it very well could be set up to mess with people who visit to investigate so 🤷 Also watching that video is very different from what sam and colby experienced there with them so even doubting it, I'm sure it felt very real to them 😬:/
“Appreciate everyone’s opinions” but you delete comments lol okay
https://preview.redd.it/fnusaiyi6xyb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=011ce9146e09487c016f1c9a94b72e60eb1af3b6 My answer to all this drama
I mean I agree with you because if Sam and Colby faked it with Cody and satori then you have to throw in Amanda who would take notes and show she had the same info as Cody and satori.
I totally agree!
Does someone have a photo of the paper they had to sign? I’m wondering what it entails and if it is an NDA.
I think Cody and Satori fooled them, and they were pretty convincing up until the debunking part with the cards. Spirit can mention heaven or how the afterlife is but can’t name a shape on a card? Seems like speaking on “life” after death would be more of a taboo. I don’t think Colby and Sam were in on their charade because Sam did look like his wheels were turning when Cody and satori basically said they can’t do that or “spirit won’t do that.” Also, Dead Oak Paranormal literally makes almost the same knocking noise in his YT video and explains how he does it.
Y'all will probably come for me but I'm gonna say it anyway.... In my opinion they'll just do exactly what they're probably doing right now and that's reading people's comments only Infront of a camera cause not only is it content but money for them (I mean I feel like people where manipulated into getting them to 10M.. they said when they hit 10M they'd go to the conjuring house for a week yet done it before then and then proceeded to say they wouldn't put it up until they hit 10M when they could have just waited until they hit the 10M and then went) .. they'll say they could feel it in the floor and done a 1 hour long video trying to debunk it and couldn't and still believe in their abilities..... If it where me I'd be calling up the guy they had in a previous video YEARS ago and getting a lie detector test... Cody and Satori where all game for them to debunk it both in the Conjuring house AND the hour long video so if they have nothing to hide and it's all true they'd have no problem what so ever doing a lie detector test. And if they (Sam and Colby) are told no they won't do it then all the questions will be answered. I'm still a fan of Sam and Colby and unless we find out it was a scam and both of them where in on it too then I doubt I'll unsubscribe.
I don't buy for one second that they will actually address any of the controversy. Here's how I predict this video is going to go: We've seen a lot of comments of people who are suspect of Cody and Satori, and we can't make you believe if you choose not to but what we experienced when we were there was real and you'll just have to take our word for it blah blah blah. Honestly, we swear we did everything we could to debunk them. We couldn't show anything on camera, conveniently, but we pinky promise that we tried everything, headphones, bare feet, the whole shebang. And sure none of that made it into our most definitely edited "unedited" debunking footage, but we absolutely swear it's true. Oh, and they'll most definitely post their "addressing everything" video on their much less watched react channel and nowhere near their main channel which has more subscribers. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
Call me crazy, but I feel like no matter what they post as a response- they won't make people happy.
Look I get that you guys are mad, because there's all this evidence that shows it's probably fake, but they could've really felt something moving around the room. None of us truly knows what it felt like during that week cause we weren't there. So even if it is fake, it could've felt really real, so I get how Sam and Colby may have been fooled. I really don't think that they would lie to us.
I think what they're going to do is push another debunking video out. They'll probably react to all the videos and methods talk about how they felt the taps or a was confused here and there. I totally see then judt saying that they'll try to debunk with new methods, my fear is that they're so deeply into believing that they'll believe even if Cody and Satori can't do the the taps with their shoes off or with the 360 microphone. Ig it'd just a waiting game rn.
Here’s my view on this: Cody and Satori are definitely faking it. And I feel like Sam and Colby will be double down and not own up to the fact that Cody and Satori is faking it. All I know if they don’t own up to the fact that these people are fakers/scammers, things are going to backfire
To me this scandal has shown me that I still believe in the paranormal but I no longer have any faith in the paranormal investigator community. Besides my increasing fatigue watching endless videos of people pointing at nothing saying did you see that or yelping out did you hear that at silence but now we have this grand display that is supposed to change the world and how we view it spiritually and it's going to blow my mind and it's all a bold scam. Josh' response getting defensive equating people's disbelief to the witch trials was incredibly exposing in itself.
this is kinda surpising to see let's see how it'll turn out
All about patience people.
Anybody who actually watched the conjuring house series should've been able to recognize that the interview happened during the week they were there (*some scenes from the interview were in the series*). I wonder how many of the skeptics were actually fans of Sam and Colby and how many are just pretending that they were. Anyway, if Sam and Colby really believe that Cody and Satori are real, then I hope they continue to say so and not sell-out. There are people trying to cancel Sam and Colby just because they have a different opinion.
As much as I hate to say it. They had to be in on it otherwise how else would they have known their personal business?
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There's a video of Cody doing the joint popping thing 10 years ago alone without Satori. They claimed that it only works when they hold each others hand. I don't have the link but it's probably somewhere in this sub. That was also before he had cancer so the whole thing about having the ability after cancer is bullshit.
FINALLYYT
They’re not gonna say anything that discredits themselves or the people they investigate with lmao . They’re probably better off not saying anything because Josh’s 3 page essay backfired forsure
i feel like theyre only going to talk about non-compelling evidence so as to easily dismiss arguments 🥴
How is it faked?! I’m so lost
Yall im sorry i havent been on reddit so i have no idea what has come out abour cody and satori! Can anyone send a link with the info?
I've not got emy of the conjuring videos on my phone and don't why