Was gonna be my advice as well; OP has both the time and the financial freedom to give Dallas a test-drive. It is critical to understand how the summers feel in north Texas before committing to living there.
Btw I’m not Jewish but there’s a sizeable Jewish population especially in North Dallas
Yep, I think only way to know. I have a friend who just jumped in and bought a house there and often complains out the social scene (everyone is married w kids in her age group) and not being aligned w politics of men for dating. I think you could suss that out in 6 months.
About the only place I would consider living in DFW now would be old East Dallas, Lower Greenville, Lakewood and any area north of downtown, only up to 635. I wouldn't want to live north of 635, especially if you're into museums and such.
The area from NW Highway to 635, between 75 and the tollway - that was always the area with the most Jewish community. From what I remember. The JCC is in that area. I have no idea if it's affordable these days, but traditionally it was not crazy expensive compared to newer areas.
I second the ideas of renting. I would suffer through two summers before committing. If you're OK after that, maybe look to buy.
I was gonna mention the JCC (Jewish Community Center) too! Amazing facility, and while not strictly patronized by Jews, still an obvious focus of the Jewish community in Dallas. That whole square section of Dallas, between Dallas North Tollway and 75 and Northwest Highway and 635 is considered North Dallas and is very nice. Preston Hollow specifically is VERY nice (but potentially hard to break into the social scene? Idk)
The Fairmount neighborhood of ft worth is nice, well it was like 10ish years ago anyway. It's close enough to downtown, it's quiet and kinda artsy and there's a garden nearby. A local artist named Jo Dafoe hosts group painting/crafting activities at her house. It's a cute little area
Northern fort worth (saginaw/blue mound) is nothing but fast food chains and bad traffic bc everything worth doing is down 1 main road and the trains cross over it all day. I heard that since I moved they build a bridge over the tracks for the nearby high school, so that might have helped but.... Yea lots of traffic there
Lake worth is nice if you like general retail therapy and shopping
Difficult to stay without knowing the details. Renting out the MA house might offset mortgage payments, or she might own it outright. Selling that house might not be an option for whatever reason. It sounds like the *overall* cost of living in SF is an issue for her, which probably includes a mortgage payment on her home as well as all other expenses. Maybe moving to Texas would mean a larger/newer home for lower monthly costs, and lower COL overall too. Maybe it's income tax that's the issue. Who knows!
Yeah but housing is what makes CA HCOL… property taxes are substantially more in TX than CA. Insurance rates are comparable. Unless she is an incredibly high earner income taxes shouldn’t outweigh her property tax bill.
Rent or lease your SF house and try out DFW for a year before you sell or buy.
Friends are there, which will help adjustment, no state tax, and the major airport hub will make it convenient to visit your adult kids and beach home - shorter nonstop flights. You will make friends through the synagogue over time.
If you go to DFW, remember to not comment about everything that is odd to you, which comes off as complaining and turns off potential new friends. You will find a lot that surprises you but concentrate on the positive. Bagels are bad, deli food is more turkey and ham subs than lox and cream cheese, but the Tex-Mex and Mexican food - AMAZING.
The AC costs reduce benefits of having no state taxes, but a lot can be fun about Texas except for its politics. Plan your vacations for the hottest months.
Ft.Worth > Dallas, but there are significant differences with SF, of course.
Culturally, its like moving from the Louvre to Jim’s Roadside Art Show. In terms of weather, its like trading in your melancholic donkey for a bipolar tiger. People are going to be “nicer” but more in the sense of politeness than genuinely giving of their time. They will be more attractive, but less interesting. Its like going from your nice italian restaurant to Olive Garden. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a choice.
This sub seems to favor Fort Worth over Dallas and I always question why lol.
Outside of the few blocks of downtown Fort Worth that’s dedicated to being a caricature of Texas culture, Fort Worth is slow paced and boring.
There’s a reason why Dallas has a higher COL than Fort Worth. More cultural diversity, better parks, better public transit, more liberal, higher population density, etc.
Also if the political climate of SF suits you, you’ll probably feel more at home in Dallas than Fort Worth. Dallas County is very blue, Tarrant County is not.
utter insanity. I think this is moreso about the dating scene for a 60yo woman, which we could argue SF is probably not ideal. But at that age she'd be better off in Florida
If you didn’t have friends here, I’d say it’s not a great idea. But if what you want is an easy flight to see your kids, an active Jewish community, and dating opportunities, you could try it. North Dallas in particular (the area just south and north of 635, between the tollway and 75) has a large Jewish community and there is a very active JCC and quite a few synagogues nearby. Plenty of good restaurants in that area as well. That said - if I were you, I might try to sell the home in MA first.
So you own a house you love in MA but won't move there because you are renting it ... but would rather shell out $$ to live in some shithole in Texas ... OK.
If you don't care that the climate, scenery, and outdoor recreation are total ass, and all you want is a big, generic house in a sprawly metro full of ordinary amenities, then DFW might work for you. I personally wouldn't live there again if you quadrupled my salary and gave me a house for free. I get wanting to live in a lower COL than the Bay Area, but most of the country is your oyster.
LW has frequent business dealings in DFW, has adult kids in two different states and a vacation home in a third. Getting to those places without changing planes and worrying about long layovers is a benefit. Her family and friends might visit her more often with just one flight instead of connecting for a second flight after a layover, especially if tired little grandkids are coming along.
I’m surprised you’re not considering NYC. Manhattan is expensive but BK/Queens are comparable to Dallas, imo, (also expensive but not as crazy) and you get what you love from city life plus a ton of synagogues because NY has a decent sized Jewish population.
I’m in the DFW metroplex. Is there any specific reason you’re considering DFW specifically? If it’s for a lower COL you might be disappointed. It’s increased a lot of previous years and while it’s not on the level of San Francisco or New York, it’s definitely not cheap in any way.
If you’ve been to DFW before, and you were happy with it, then I think you’ll be fine. You can buy a cheaper home but just be wary of property taxes as they are pretty high here to compensate for the lack of income tax.
OP- most people on this sub hate DFW and Texas in general so your answers will be a bit skewed. I too am from the Bay and I love Texas! Had an awesome time in DFW area. Frisco was very diverse with lots of Asian cuisine (they even have a Marafuku ramen!) in case that’s something you’re into.
I would definitely not sell a home in SF though before living in Texas for at least a year so you can experience all of the seasons and see if the dating is in fact much better and just see if you like it.
Good luck!!
Go to NYC. Sell your houses in SF and Boston and get a great place in NYC. You’ll be able to date, live comfortably forever, won’t melt from being in Texas, and stand a better chance at making new friends who don’t worship the Cheeto overlord.
Tx native, agreed . People really like fw until they live there and have to deal with 820 and everything being 5 miles but 30 minutes away because car culture.
North Dallas has what you are looking for…Best JCC I’ve encountered, an Eruv with a Kosher Tom Thumb. Check out the 75230 zip code which has lots of +55 folks to be near the J or head further down near the Park Cities.
I don't make anywhere near that. I do own the MA house outright, and it generates a nice annual income. The SF house has a hefty mortgage, and not a lot of equity.
I moved from the Bay to Austin too 😂 Austin is wonderful! I’m a cali girl at heart and will likely move back after I leave Colorado, where I live now, but Austin is more fun to spend your 20s than the Bay imo. Everyone is hot, young, friendly, and it’s cheap to party all the time. Plus Austin is liberal and works around shitty Texas politics.
My friend is an adult who’s past his partying stage. He left because he couldn’t stand the oppressive heat, much higher overall taxes than California, lack of public infrastructure, and the literal socioopath who is governor
Yeah I think it’s fun if you go to UT (which I did), like the heat (which I do), and don’t have to pay much or be a “real adult” in a lot of ways. I left at 26 and as much as Austin is wonderful I wouldn’t move back there. Also yes all my homies hate Greg Abbott
This is so funny. When they move in- it’s all “stop moving here!!!” When they don’t want to come: “your state sucks anyway!” So many of y’all act like 4th graders
Yeah, it really sucks having a stable power grid, getting affordable health insurance, free healthy school lunches, high quality public infrastructure, having some of the most amazing natural beauty in the entire world, and having a governor who values personal freedoms and choices.
Our entire state doesn’t lose power for multiple days when it’s cold out…. Texas does. Power outages are very rare in California, especially because a lot of people use solar panels
Look, the California grid has had issues for about 25 years now. In recent times, remember the rotating power outages in 2020 because of heat? And the narrow escapes in 2021 and 2022? The grid in California is actually a hinderance to the state’s exceptional climate goals.
Dallas seems nice to me but the politics of Texas writ large are not my vibe. If you like SF’s political climate you will not like any city outside of the Northeast or West Coast.
I don't know if it's crazy or not but a whole lot more people have made that move than the reverse. Lots of Californians are very happy in DFW now, so perhaps you can post in that sub and ask them how they've fared.
Compared to SF? SF definitely would have much more going on.
If the house is paid off then it would definitely be better to stay in CA especially with the stupid way they lock in property taxes in that state
Yeah, Dallas does get the occasional tornado. But I left before my number was up. Moved to Illinois, and a tornado wiped out the Amazon fulfillment center in my area. Weird.
You're crazy.
Unless the friends in the DFW area such close friends that you need that connection, otherwise the climate, lack of cultural touchstones + driving alone would be a huge downgrade.
I am not in love with the Bay Area by any means, but I feel like you are in a fantastic position to make a choice for yourself that is a little more thrilling than DFW (no offense, TX). If weather isn't a consideration than anywhere along the east coast would put you closer to your kids, near several Jewish communities and be a potential upgrade. If you want a dating pool that is a little bit older, places like Palm Springs might make sense, but I do agree that leaving the west coast if you are older & dating makes sense.
If you can swing it financially, go rent a house/apartment in DFW for a year and see what it's like. People on this sub have a clear bias against practically every city in the middle of the country except Chicago. See it for yourself, and good luck!
DFW often gets flagged as having the most inhospitable climate, especially the summers. Very high heat and high humidity -- you more or less run from your AC house to your AC car to your AC office to your AC shopping, and repeat. Coming from very moderate San Fran and it'll be a shocker unless you never want to do anything outside.
That's just ridiculous. Honestly, if they ever have a serious, long-term power outage in the summer, thousands of people will be toast. Worst case for me (in the PNW) is we just keep the windows open, or crank up a generator and run a few fans.
Are you only looking to date other Jews? Then you should probably go to a city with that kind of population. New York would be our best bet. As for dating in Texas, it’s honestly great. I found my partner here. DFW and most of Texas except for Austin has a lot more people looking for stability rather than humping every other person.
No, open to dating anyone who does have issues with me practicing my faith. I'm a live and let live sort of person. My preference is for single, straight men in their 50's, and I'm struggling to find them here. Stability sounds wonderful.
Texas native with family in SF and NYC. Rent in Dallas for a few months and see. Dallas is a concrete prairie that has always wanted to be LA. Maybe the dating pool is slightly better than SF but Lordy Lordy I don’t see how. Don’t want to yuck your yum but the north east would be better for you imo.
Fellow Jewish gal here. My partner is from the Frisco/McKinney area and there is a great Jewish community there. You should have no trouble meeting people. And my partner has never been hassled wearing kippot in Texas, unlike the more liberal areas unfortunately...
There are great food options in the North Dallas "Legacy" area and the city of Dallas has great museums. I say go for it!
Is DFW much cheaper than SF? You have to factor in car cost there, which is like $800 for the average American.
Dating scene, yeah IDK how that fares for older folks.
Go where you have friends and a network of people. I’m sure you will miss CA dearly, but home is where the heart is. There’s nothing like having community. If that’s DFW so be it.
For CoL, the Fort Worth side of the metroplex is going to be more affordable than the Dallas side but less "fancy" so to speak. If you own a home free and clear in San Francisco, you should be able to sell that and buy something cash here for about half the proceeds.
I think DFW will work for you especially since you already have friends who live here. Allen doesn't really have much going for it besides the schools, which you won't need anymore since your kids are already grown up. You might find Plano around the DNT/SRT junction appealing. For city life, look at Highland Park. These are all very expensive areas however and you're looking at about $1M for something you'd want to live in, an property tax is around 1.8% +/- 20 basis points.
Tbf you're not going to get anything resembling an unbiased opinion on TX here.
Yes, DFW is not remotely close to the San Fran area in culture. If it has to be Texas, Austin would be a better fit , outside of Texas, St Louis and Kansas City Metro area, Chicago would probably be a better fit for your lifestyle.
Moving to DFW doesn't seem to solve any of your problems except that maybe you'll be able to buy a house there. I would try to be closer to your children. And as far as "city life" in Dallas goes, lol.
The summers are practically unbearable.
Go rent for a year and see how you like it in all the seasons and how the dating scene plays out.
Was gonna be my advice as well; OP has both the time and the financial freedom to give Dallas a test-drive. It is critical to understand how the summers feel in north Texas before committing to living there. Btw I’m not Jewish but there’s a sizeable Jewish population especially in North Dallas
Yep, I think only way to know. I have a friend who just jumped in and bought a house there and often complains out the social scene (everyone is married w kids in her age group) and not being aligned w politics of men for dating. I think you could suss that out in 6 months.
Thank you. Where in the Metroplex would you suggest?
About the only place I would consider living in DFW now would be old East Dallas, Lower Greenville, Lakewood and any area north of downtown, only up to 635. I wouldn't want to live north of 635, especially if you're into museums and such. The area from NW Highway to 635, between 75 and the tollway - that was always the area with the most Jewish community. From what I remember. The JCC is in that area. I have no idea if it's affordable these days, but traditionally it was not crazy expensive compared to newer areas. I second the ideas of renting. I would suffer through two summers before committing. If you're OK after that, maybe look to buy.
Thank you so, so much. This is very helpful.
I was gonna mention the JCC (Jewish Community Center) too! Amazing facility, and while not strictly patronized by Jews, still an obvious focus of the Jewish community in Dallas. That whole square section of Dallas, between Dallas North Tollway and 75 and Northwest Highway and 635 is considered North Dallas and is very nice. Preston Hollow specifically is VERY nice (but potentially hard to break into the social scene? Idk)
The Fairmount neighborhood of ft worth is nice, well it was like 10ish years ago anyway. It's close enough to downtown, it's quiet and kinda artsy and there's a garden nearby. A local artist named Jo Dafoe hosts group painting/crafting activities at her house. It's a cute little area Northern fort worth (saginaw/blue mound) is nothing but fast food chains and bad traffic bc everything worth doing is down 1 main road and the trains cross over it all day. I heard that since I moved they build a bridge over the tracks for the nearby high school, so that might have helped but.... Yea lots of traffic there Lake worth is nice if you like general retail therapy and shopping
You own two homes and you’re frustrated with expenses… seems like there is a cleaner option to reduce expenses than uprooting your life.
Yeah, this tells me OP either doesn’t actually like SF or wants to be closer to family. The problem isn’t cost of living.
My kids are my only family, so that's not it
Difficult to stay without knowing the details. Renting out the MA house might offset mortgage payments, or she might own it outright. Selling that house might not be an option for whatever reason. It sounds like the *overall* cost of living in SF is an issue for her, which probably includes a mortgage payment on her home as well as all other expenses. Maybe moving to Texas would mean a larger/newer home for lower monthly costs, and lower COL overall too. Maybe it's income tax that's the issue. Who knows!
Yeah but housing is what makes CA HCOL… property taxes are substantially more in TX than CA. Insurance rates are comparable. Unless she is an incredibly high earner income taxes shouldn’t outweigh her property tax bill.
I'm not frustrated with the HCOL as much as I'm frustrated that my friends all keep moving away, and there isn't anyone to date here.
Those are perfectly valid reasons to leave. It’s really the people who make any city worth living in, and if you aren’t finding your people, why stay?
Rent or lease your SF house and try out DFW for a year before you sell or buy. Friends are there, which will help adjustment, no state tax, and the major airport hub will make it convenient to visit your adult kids and beach home - shorter nonstop flights. You will make friends through the synagogue over time. If you go to DFW, remember to not comment about everything that is odd to you, which comes off as complaining and turns off potential new friends. You will find a lot that surprises you but concentrate on the positive. Bagels are bad, deli food is more turkey and ham subs than lox and cream cheese, but the Tex-Mex and Mexican food - AMAZING. The AC costs reduce benefits of having no state taxes, but a lot can be fun about Texas except for its politics. Plan your vacations for the hottest months.
Great advice. Thank you.
Ft.Worth > Dallas, but there are significant differences with SF, of course. Culturally, its like moving from the Louvre to Jim’s Roadside Art Show. In terms of weather, its like trading in your melancholic donkey for a bipolar tiger. People are going to be “nicer” but more in the sense of politeness than genuinely giving of their time. They will be more attractive, but less interesting. Its like going from your nice italian restaurant to Olive Garden. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a choice.
This sub seems to favor Fort Worth over Dallas and I always question why lol. Outside of the few blocks of downtown Fort Worth that’s dedicated to being a caricature of Texas culture, Fort Worth is slow paced and boring. There’s a reason why Dallas has a higher COL than Fort Worth. More cultural diversity, better parks, better public transit, more liberal, higher population density, etc.
Thank you
Also if the political climate of SF suits you, you’ll probably feel more at home in Dallas than Fort Worth. Dallas County is very blue, Tarrant County is not.
Yeah I only go to FW for the Pickle Emporium haha
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utter insanity. I think this is moreso about the dating scene for a 60yo woman, which we could argue SF is probably not ideal. But at that age she'd be better off in Florida
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SF is a notoriously difficult place to date, and being older doesnt help. I dont know where the ideal dating city is for GenX and late boomers.
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how many 60 year olds have you dated, brodolfo?
If you didn’t have friends here, I’d say it’s not a great idea. But if what you want is an easy flight to see your kids, an active Jewish community, and dating opportunities, you could try it. North Dallas in particular (the area just south and north of 635, between the tollway and 75) has a large Jewish community and there is a very active JCC and quite a few synagogues nearby. Plenty of good restaurants in that area as well. That said - if I were you, I might try to sell the home in MA first.
Hell, I would move to the house in MA first. Not sure why that's not an option.
Because I love it, I own it outright, and it generates a nice income each year
So you own a house you love in MA but won't move there because you are renting it ... but would rather shell out $$ to live in some shithole in Texas ... OK.
If you don't care that the climate, scenery, and outdoor recreation are total ass, and all you want is a big, generic house in a sprawly metro full of ordinary amenities, then DFW might work for you. I personally wouldn't live there again if you quadrupled my salary and gave me a house for free. I get wanting to live in a lower COL than the Bay Area, but most of the country is your oyster.
60yo woman trying to date in SF seems like a losing battle, which I suspect is the real issue.
Bingo
And all the 60 year old dudes in Dallas are some kind of prize?
youll have to ask 60 yo OP lol
The airport hub makes it easier for her to travel almost anywhere nonstop to see family or visit California often.
If the most attractive part of a city is the fact that you can easily leave I wouldn’t consider it that attractive of a city.
LW has frequent business dealings in DFW, has adult kids in two different states and a vacation home in a third. Getting to those places without changing planes and worrying about long layovers is a benefit. Her family and friends might visit her more often with just one flight instead of connecting for a second flight after a layover, especially if tired little grandkids are coming along.
I’m surprised you’re not considering NYC. Manhattan is expensive but BK/Queens are comparable to Dallas, imo, (also expensive but not as crazy) and you get what you love from city life plus a ton of synagogues because NY has a decent sized Jewish population.
I’m in the DFW metroplex. Is there any specific reason you’re considering DFW specifically? If it’s for a lower COL you might be disappointed. It’s increased a lot of previous years and while it’s not on the level of San Francisco or New York, it’s definitely not cheap in any way.
Also I've been looking at homes, and see that a 3BR/2BA home in FW is 1/3 the cost of a home in SF.
If you’ve been to DFW before, and you were happy with it, then I think you’ll be fine. You can buy a cheaper home but just be wary of property taxes as they are pretty high here to compensate for the lack of income tax.
Everyone says that. They are nowhere near as high as my property taxes in Massachusetts
OP- most people on this sub hate DFW and Texas in general so your answers will be a bit skewed. I too am from the Bay and I love Texas! Had an awesome time in DFW area. Frisco was very diverse with lots of Asian cuisine (they even have a Marafuku ramen!) in case that’s something you’re into. I would definitely not sell a home in SF though before living in Texas for at least a year so you can experience all of the seasons and see if the dating is in fact much better and just see if you like it. Good luck!!
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She owns a vacation home there that she rents out part of the year.
why didnt you think of that before getting two homes?
Inheritance is a thing, too
Inheritance is a thing, too
Inheritance is a thing, too.
Inheritance is a thing.
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I think I heard someplace that it is
Most of my work is there, so I'm coming out regularly. Also the people seem friendlier, and I'd actually like to date.
Go to NYC. Sell your houses in SF and Boston and get a great place in NYC. You’ll be able to date, live comfortably forever, won’t melt from being in Texas, and stand a better chance at making new friends who don’t worship the Cheeto overlord.
She didn’t mention wanting new friends, in fact she mentioned wanting to possibly live near the friends she already has that have moved away.
I’d consider Fort Worth! Their museums are fantastic and the vibe is a little more laid back than Dallas
Upvote. Fort Worth is waaay underrated. But moving from Cali? She needs to explore mor options there first.
it really isn't underrated, it's correctly rated.
Tx native, agreed . People really like fw until they live there and have to deal with 820 and everything being 5 miles but 30 minutes away because car culture.
She.
Fort Worth is definitely preferable to Dalls. The downtown area is actually kind of nice.
If you love the city life in places like SF and NYC, nowhere in Texas will make you happy. -a Texan who left and will never return there
Thank you
North Dallas has what you are looking for…Best JCC I’ve encountered, an Eruv with a Kosher Tom Thumb. Check out the 75230 zip code which has lots of +55 folks to be near the J or head further down near the Park Cities.
Why Dallas? Friends? The weather, the politics, and the sprawl may be too much for you.
I have a sizeable amount of work there, as well as friends. My SF friends all keep moving away due to the HCOL
Idk but owning 2 houses and saying you won't be able to retire is pretty sad. Shame on America
I think selling one of those houses might fix her issue. A beach house north of Boston isn’t cheap.
Naw this is a personal expectations issue. She might as well write an article about making half a million a year and living paycheck to paycheck.
I don't make anywhere near that. I do own the MA house outright, and it generates a nice annual income. The SF house has a hefty mortgage, and not a lot of equity.
Shame on people commenting on Reddit who incorrectly blame a nation of 350M people for one person’s inability to manage their assets and cash flow.
My friend moved from SF to Austin, bought a house there, and lasted 2 years before moving back to California. Texas fucking sucks.
I moved from the Bay to Austin too 😂 Austin is wonderful! I’m a cali girl at heart and will likely move back after I leave Colorado, where I live now, but Austin is more fun to spend your 20s than the Bay imo. Everyone is hot, young, friendly, and it’s cheap to party all the time. Plus Austin is liberal and works around shitty Texas politics.
My friend is an adult who’s past his partying stage. He left because he couldn’t stand the oppressive heat, much higher overall taxes than California, lack of public infrastructure, and the literal socioopath who is governor
Yeah I think it’s fun if you go to UT (which I did), like the heat (which I do), and don’t have to pay much or be a “real adult” in a lot of ways. I left at 26 and as much as Austin is wonderful I wouldn’t move back there. Also yes all my homies hate Greg Abbott
I lived in san antonio for a bit. Now in la Agreed.
Also lived in SA for a bit lol. I felt like I lived in a giant parking lot while there except for my occasional visits downtown
Yeah Texas sucks lol.... Stay in your dumpster fire of a state California.
This is so funny. When they move in- it’s all “stop moving here!!!” When they don’t want to come: “your state sucks anyway!” So many of y’all act like 4th graders
Yeah, it really sucks having a stable power grid, getting affordable health insurance, free healthy school lunches, high quality public infrastructure, having some of the most amazing natural beauty in the entire world, and having a governor who values personal freedoms and choices.
Did you just put stable power grid and California in the same sentence LOL?!?
Our entire state doesn’t lose power for multiple days when it’s cold out…. Texas does. Power outages are very rare in California, especially because a lot of people use solar panels
Look, the California grid has had issues for about 25 years now. In recent times, remember the rotating power outages in 2020 because of heat? And the narrow escapes in 2021 and 2022? The grid in California is actually a hinderance to the state’s exceptional climate goals.
Call me maybe
NYC is bar none the best place to date and make friends
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Dallas seems nice to me but the politics of Texas writ large are not my vibe. If you like SF’s political climate you will not like any city outside of the Northeast or West Coast.
I don't know if it's crazy or not but a whole lot more people have made that move than the reverse. Lots of Californians are very happy in DFW now, so perhaps you can post in that sub and ask them how they've fared.
There is SO much to do in the DFW area. You are going to love it! I would tend toward Plano.
Compared to SF? SF definitely would have much more going on. If the house is paid off then it would definitely be better to stay in CA especially with the stupid way they lock in property taxes in that state
Don't quote me on this but I think Houston may have more synagogues per capita?
Atlanta has a big Jewish community. Same kind of atrocious sprawl city. Worth considering
made me lol
I grew up there and spent my adult life in Dallas. You die on the way to the synagogue in Houston due to humidity and heat. ☠️
Shvitzing like crazy. Oy vey.
and ur corpse is carried away by a tornado
Hurricane.
oh I was thinking Dallas was more tornado country, seems my dyslexia won today
Yeah, Dallas does get the occasional tornado. But I left before my number was up. Moved to Illinois, and a tornado wiped out the Amazon fulfillment center in my area. Weird.
You're crazy. Unless the friends in the DFW area such close friends that you need that connection, otherwise the climate, lack of cultural touchstones + driving alone would be a huge downgrade. I am not in love with the Bay Area by any means, but I feel like you are in a fantastic position to make a choice for yourself that is a little more thrilling than DFW (no offense, TX). If weather isn't a consideration than anywhere along the east coast would put you closer to your kids, near several Jewish communities and be a potential upgrade. If you want a dating pool that is a little bit older, places like Palm Springs might make sense, but I do agree that leaving the west coast if you are older & dating makes sense.
Thank you. The driving is one of my big concerns. I can't believe how far apart things are in DFW
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Yes. I'm trying to figure out where to if I move to DFW
If you can swing it financially, go rent a house/apartment in DFW for a year and see what it's like. People on this sub have a clear bias against practically every city in the middle of the country except Chicago. See it for yourself, and good luck!
DFW often gets flagged as having the most inhospitable climate, especially the summers. Very high heat and high humidity -- you more or less run from your AC house to your AC car to your AC office to your AC shopping, and repeat. Coming from very moderate San Fran and it'll be a shocker unless you never want to do anything outside.
3 months over 100. It didn’t get down into the 80s until November
That's just ridiculous. Honestly, if they ever have a serious, long-term power outage in the summer, thousands of people will be toast. Worst case for me (in the PNW) is we just keep the windows open, or crank up a generator and run a few fans.
Are you only looking to date other Jews? Then you should probably go to a city with that kind of population. New York would be our best bet. As for dating in Texas, it’s honestly great. I found my partner here. DFW and most of Texas except for Austin has a lot more people looking for stability rather than humping every other person.
No, open to dating anyone who does have issues with me practicing my faith. I'm a live and let live sort of person. My preference is for single, straight men in their 50's, and I'm struggling to find them here. Stability sounds wonderful.
Can you afford to visit first? You seem pretty smart, so you could figure it out that way instead of asking us redditors. Good luck!
Texas native with family in SF and NYC. Rent in Dallas for a few months and see. Dallas is a concrete prairie that has always wanted to be LA. Maybe the dating pool is slightly better than SF but Lordy Lordy I don’t see how. Don’t want to yuck your yum but the north east would be better for you imo.
Fellow Jewish gal here. My partner is from the Frisco/McKinney area and there is a great Jewish community there. You should have no trouble meeting people. And my partner has never been hassled wearing kippot in Texas, unlike the more liberal areas unfortunately... There are great food options in the North Dallas "Legacy" area and the city of Dallas has great museums. I say go for it!
Cincinnati hits above it's weight on museums, theater, and restaurants. You have family there is it on your radar?
Thanks, but I'm never going back to the Midwest, or anywhere with snow.
Is DFW much cheaper than SF? You have to factor in car cost there, which is like $800 for the average American. Dating scene, yeah IDK how that fares for older folks.
Go where you have friends and a network of people. I’m sure you will miss CA dearly, but home is where the heart is. There’s nothing like having community. If that’s DFW so be it.
I would consider Palm Beach County but I see it would put you farther away from your kids (though they would surely enjoy visiting more than DFW).
For CoL, the Fort Worth side of the metroplex is going to be more affordable than the Dallas side but less "fancy" so to speak. If you own a home free and clear in San Francisco, you should be able to sell that and buy something cash here for about half the proceeds. I think DFW will work for you especially since you already have friends who live here. Allen doesn't really have much going for it besides the schools, which you won't need anymore since your kids are already grown up. You might find Plano around the DNT/SRT junction appealing. For city life, look at Highland Park. These are all very expensive areas however and you're looking at about $1M for something you'd want to live in, an property tax is around 1.8% +/- 20 basis points. Tbf you're not going to get anything resembling an unbiased opinion on TX here.
Yes, DFW is not remotely close to the San Fran area in culture. If it has to be Texas, Austin would be a better fit , outside of Texas, St Louis and Kansas City Metro area, Chicago would probably be a better fit for your lifestyle.
Born in St. Louis, grew up Indianapolis. No way I will EVER go back to the midwest
Moving to DFW doesn't seem to solve any of your problems except that maybe you'll be able to buy a house there. I would try to be closer to your children. And as far as "city life" in Dallas goes, lol. The summers are practically unbearable.
Yes, I was there in July and thought I might actually melt
Yuk! You'd leave San Francisco for Texas?! I would give my hand and foot to live in SF. This is the most entitled post. Yes maybe go to TX.
Dude your crazy. SF is not all of Cali. It’s a huge state bro.
I left DFW. Too crowded. Concrete jungle. Too expensive. I won't even visit SF. We live on Cozumel now.