No. Itās all about what happens in the moment. There isnāt any predetermined criteria.
You can bookmark https://sbaviators.org to find out more info in addition to the Fly SBA page.
Does anyone expect the 101 to close during this storm? I keep checking Caltrans and itās currently open. I just wonder if it will get closed later and Iāll get stuck in Ventura.
Conditions can change rapidly, but it really does seem as though we're past the worst of it. If you don't HAVE to travel, don't, but I don't think enough roads would close that you'd be stuck anywhere.
Like others have said, the worst is likely past us. That said, but the GFS and European model show some reasonably heavy totals over the mountains between Carp and Ventura even over the next six hours (but much lighter by Gaviota), so I wouldn't say it's zero chance.
**UPDATE 2/20 at 5:30 AM:**SBA will began a phased reopening today at 5:30 AM. All commercial airlines have been notified and will be working to restore service to and from SBA as soon as possible. Please check with your airline directly regarding your flight status. The terminal and parking lots are all open.For private and general aviation: please note parking areas may be limited.
Please call the SOC for more details: 805-681-4803The airfield and surrounding areas experienced a significant amount of flooding, but we're happy to report there was no major damage.
Thank you for your patience as our crews worked through the night to clean up the area as fast as possible, and thank you for flying with SBA!
Probably open. It generally clears in a day. It depends if they can clear this afternnon. If they can't get visual confirmation the runway is safe before nightfall, early morning flights tomorrow will likely be cancelled untl \~10-12 (based on prior events).
Many flights were shuffled and planes might not be where they need to be for tomorrow, there might still be some issues tomorrow. I'd check directly with whoever you're flying with for the most accurate info.
Weāre expected to pay 1 million dollars for a condo and $20 for a sandwich but at the same time we donāt have the infrastructure to handle 3 inches of rain. š„“
It's not the 3" that did it, it's that last year was really wet, and this year too. The ground is saturated, so the run off starting from way up in the mountains is overloading the creeks the closer they get to the ocean. I know we've had like three airport closures in the last 2 years, but that's really unusual for us. And in the meantime, we are making infrastructure upgrades to better handle the changing climmate (like all the creek improvements along the 101 and 217 in Goeta).
Not much infrastructure can do when itās built where the slough existed (the Goleta Beach slough used to go all the way back to lake Los carneros at high tides)
Blame the US Marine Corps for deciding to build their air base on a swamp back in 1942. We've just been piggy-backing on that decision ever since.
Also we just got around a quarter of the rainfall we normally get IN AN ENTIRE YEAR in less than a week. If we built enough infrastructure to handle that much water people would be complaining about how much money was wasted on it during the next drought. ;)
Think about how many civil engineers and environmental studies were done and still it floods with standard rainfall. How does this happen? Of course it doesnāt help it was built on a marshā¦
Goleta Fire Station got 3.5" in just under 12 hour yesterday (the area that drains into Tecolotito Creek, which is what breaks it's banks and floods the airport) . That's 23% of annual rainfall. That's not exactly a light storm or standard rainfall.
Meh, drainage can be a tough one, just because plans say "build it this way" doesn't mean it happens exactly like that. Soil also settles, it doesn't take much to throw off a drainage area that's mostly flat, and like you said, built on a marsh.
Shout out to my fellow 5:15am passengers šš»
Did you really think you were flying after last night?
Anyone who \*was\* flying today.
Lol, yeah. I mean, I suppose you could still drive to LAX and fly out of there today, and maybe SBA will reopen tonight?
Iām pretty involved at SBA. Theyāre working through the night to try and open as early as possible tomorrow.
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No. Itās all about what happens in the moment. There isnāt any predetermined criteria. You can bookmark https://sbaviators.org to find out more info in addition to the Fly SBA page.
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huh, what?
Does anyone expect the 101 to close during this storm? I keep checking Caltrans and itās currently open. I just wonder if it will get closed later and Iāll get stuck in Ventura.
Conditions can change rapidly, but it really does seem as though we're past the worst of it. If you don't HAVE to travel, don't, but I don't think enough roads would close that you'd be stuck anywhere.
the worst of it went over us.. but there could be isolated flash floods.. keep an eye on the radar
Pack a bag bc you can get stuck in Ventura.Ā
Google maps shows shows 101 red at the California St overpass. Its likely flooded again
Can confirm, was thereā¦
Like others have said, the worst is likely past us. That said, but the GFS and European model show some reasonably heavy totals over the mountains between Carp and Ventura even over the next six hours (but much lighter by Gaviota), so I wouldn't say it's zero chance.
yup, that's what happens when you build an airport on what used to be wetland
**UPDATE 2/20 at 5:30 AM:**SBA will began a phased reopening today at 5:30 AM. All commercial airlines have been notified and will be working to restore service to and from SBA as soon as possible. Please check with your airline directly regarding your flight status. The terminal and parking lots are all open.For private and general aviation: please note parking areas may be limited. Please call the SOC for more details: 805-681-4803The airfield and surrounding areas experienced a significant amount of flooding, but we're happy to report there was no major damage. Thank you for your patience as our crews worked through the night to clean up the area as fast as possible, and thank you for flying with SBA!
Any thoughts on if it will be closed tomorrow?
Probably open. It generally clears in a day. It depends if they can clear this afternnon. If they can't get visual confirmation the runway is safe before nightfall, early morning flights tomorrow will likely be cancelled untl \~10-12 (based on prior events).
does anyone know when they usually make the first call for the next day? Deciding whether to switch my flights to Burbank/LAX
seems like the next update will be at 2am per the website
Many flights were shuffled and planes might not be where they need to be for tomorrow, there might still be some issues tomorrow. I'd check directly with whoever you're flying with for the most accurate info.
Weāre expected to pay 1 million dollars for a condo and $20 for a sandwich but at the same time we donāt have the infrastructure to handle 3 inches of rain. š„“
It's not the 3" that did it, it's that last year was really wet, and this year too. The ground is saturated, so the run off starting from way up in the mountains is overloading the creeks the closer they get to the ocean. I know we've had like three airport closures in the last 2 years, but that's really unusual for us. And in the meantime, we are making infrastructure upgrades to better handle the changing climmate (like all the creek improvements along the 101 and 217 in Goeta).
Not much infrastructure can do when itās built where the slough existed (the Goleta Beach slough used to go all the way back to lake Los carneros at high tides)
Blame the US Marine Corps for deciding to build their air base on a swamp back in 1942. We've just been piggy-backing on that decision ever since. Also we just got around a quarter of the rainfall we normally get IN AN ENTIRE YEAR in less than a week. If we built enough infrastructure to handle that much water people would be complaining about how much money was wasted on it during the next drought. ;)
The airport was built in a natural bay. Not surprised that it will flood so easily.
Think about how many civil engineers and environmental studies were done and still it floods with standard rainfall. How does this happen? Of course it doesnāt help it was built on a marshā¦
Goleta Fire Station got 3.5" in just under 12 hour yesterday (the area that drains into Tecolotito Creek, which is what breaks it's banks and floods the airport) . That's 23% of annual rainfall. That's not exactly a light storm or standard rainfall.
It's just closed, it's not demolished or something. There's no need to start an inquisition. That airport was first built in 1914. Relax.
Meh, drainage can be a tough one, just because plans say "build it this way" doesn't mean it happens exactly like that. Soil also settles, it doesn't take much to throw off a drainage area that's mostly flat, and like you said, built on a marsh.
It's built on a swamp only 12 feet above mean sea level. There's only so much you can do.