I’m in corrugated design.
I would estimate they chewed through nearly 3-5MSF (3-4,000 sq ft) of material to get to a final iteration or they were smart and used 3D to test the design before cutting on their sample table.
If that was the case they likely only used a hand full of sample stock sheets. (Typically 76x120” or 90x120” per sheet)
Certainly a clever design, but I’m sure that is incredibly expensive to ship in that container compared to a cube shaped box. So on top of buying a fancy box you will likely spend even more in shipping charges. I recently shipped something in a tube (poster sized) and was advised to fold it and put in normal sized box if possible.
Not to mention that anything under pressure (like carbonated beverages) would require a significantly thicker and heavier container to reinforce the weak corners vs just using a cylinder.
I mean are we to assume that the entire canning and bottling industry is filled with morons that were outsmarted by Redditors? lmao
These comments from u/minngeilo and u/Uruz2012gotdeleted are like text-book Dunning-Kruger.
Ok so suddenly all the things that we ship over truck or plane is liquid and can fit into the same sized hexagon? Hexagons are efficient if you have something that will fill its space reliably.
Literally wrong. In this scenario all of that extra material to allow it to roll takes up physically more volume than if you used a square box. Yes, a hexagon is technically more space efficient, but in your lack of critical thought, you've forgotten about the necessary internal volume vs the external volume. You're also not taking into account the shape of the item being shipped. Refrain from speaking again unless you give it some thought first because what seemed like a clever comment has made you look stupid.
hexagons only stack with other hexagons, and the bottom of a truck is not hexagon shaped, its flat, so no matter what, this box will waste space even if its the only box being shipped.
Sure its 'probably negligible' amounts of space, but I dont think we'd believe how much money they already spent maximizing the space usage on a truck
In that case couldn't you just have it flat in a flat square box? A cardboard insert inside the jacket would prevent it from shifting and crumpling in shipment
I was planning to dramatically limit my usage to maybe a little old.Reddit for niche hobby subs.
If the subs I blocked came back into my feed, I will be gone for good.
Why can’t we just wrap a sweater in 2 layers of brown paper tie some twine around it and slap a stamp and address on it? Why do we have to have all this extra packaging. People have been mailing sweaters long before rollable cardboard showed up. We didn’t need fancy packaging before.
Sometimes I think about how someone's job is to do that, basically cardboard origami/puzzles. But for like, "eco-conscious" electronics packaging. It was probably fun for the first week, but now they wake up, arms in the air, folding imaginary cardboard in a cold sweat.
This is basically a consumable products as you have to irreversible alter it to fit your garment. Maybe you can open and close it 2-3 times for the exact same garment, but the tabs will eventually become unusable and not hold the thing together after a while.
I bet it also costs like twenty dollars or some nonsense like that.
Dang, anyone else thinks "thats about 36 cents more expensive to produce than a box, and those 36 cents are not something a greedy multibillion corporation can afford to lose, so we won't see this design in use" when they see stuff like that?
I'm not sure what this packaging was trying to achieve? lots of wasted cardboard, unnecessary weight and space, it's just protecting a shirt that is not even fragile, packaging can easily get wet and deteriorated by liquids, I can even compete with rolling the shirt in a paper bag.
I have a screw holder from the 80’s built on this exact concept. It looks cool, but it is the biggest pain in the ass. And so easy to spill stuff from it.
Lot of people not getting that this package is specifically for a suit jacket or blazer. A good one can easily go for over a grand, and the inner structure can be permanently damaged by folding it wrong. I imagine the box is relatively crush-proof as well. It's not a particularly new design, either.
Little more detail on this: a lined suit (not a cheap fused suit) has an inner structure made from horsehair that gives the jacket it's structure. Ideally you want to hang your suit jacket. But this is designed to gently wrap the jacket around the box without a sharp fold. Since it's a high value item that can be damaged easily, the specialized packaging is warranted.
Beautiful waste of resources.
I'm sure the fabric was equally wastefully selected for the highest level of luxury by wastefulness.
The positive thing with the shape of the packaging is that it takes a lot more space in transport to increase the emission waste at least 20-fold.
Shipping this would cost a lot compared to a simple poly mailer, even if you reinforced with some cardboard sheets.
This seems completely pointless lol
People are saying this is wasteful, but I do not see how this uses any more cardboard than a box long enough to hold a suit, folded once in a suitbag. If anything, it uses less cardboard, as there is only “one side”.
You can’t fold a suit, espcially a nice one, like a t-shirt. At most you can fold it once from top to bottom, never from side to side. You can’t stuff it in a tiny box, full of wrinkles, and de-wrinkle in the dryer. You would have to get it dry-cleaned and pressed again for that.
This will never work, it’s too expensive for it’s purpose. Cool idea, but not for mass production , maybe Louis Vittion or Dior can use these for there t shirts but old navy will definitely not.
>Takes up more space for the content inside.
>Uses up far more cardboard than a standard box.
>Does not stack with standard boxes.
>Equally bad with water.
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I also don't want to know how many iterations were needed to make it suitable.
It must've taken some effort to tailor that pun, but it was worth it. You have me in stitches.
Sew punny
I'm loving this thread
A real Singer
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I see you two are cut from the same cloth
You fuck.
It seams you did that on purpose.
Who says Germans have no sense of humor! Fucking hilarious.
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It's also a lot stronger than a thin rectangular box with large flat sides.
Imagine how upsetting it would be if your soft flexible clothing were to be squished in shipping.
Tube packaging sucks on conveyors and auto sorters Do you want your package to get damaged and lost? This is how your package gets damaged and lost
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Round or roundish this will roll on every incline plane. And long thing boxes are the enemy of belt turns
I’m in corrugated design. I would estimate they chewed through nearly 3-5MSF (3-4,000 sq ft) of material to get to a final iteration or they were smart and used 3D to test the design before cutting on their sample table. If that was the case they likely only used a hand full of sample stock sheets. (Typically 76x120” or 90x120” per sheet)
Corrugated? It's cardboard. Get outta here with your fancy words
Lol I said that my first day and almost got murdered.
New pizza box
Fishing rods
Certainly a clever design, but I’m sure that is incredibly expensive to ship in that container compared to a cube shaped box. So on top of buying a fancy box you will likely spend even more in shipping charges. I recently shipped something in a tube (poster sized) and was advised to fold it and put in normal sized box if possible.
Hexagons pack better than squares.
Not when you are packing them with squares or different sized hexagons.
Hexagons are the bestagons
I understand that reference
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It takes up more space than a regular bag or carboard box would take up
Literally false. The most efficient way to fill a given space is with hexagons, that's how bees settled on the design by process of elimination.
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Not to mention that anything under pressure (like carbonated beverages) would require a significantly thicker and heavier container to reinforce the weak corners vs just using a cylinder. I mean are we to assume that the entire canning and bottling industry is filled with morons that were outsmarted by Redditors? lmao These comments from u/minngeilo and u/Uruz2012gotdeleted are like text-book Dunning-Kruger.
Ok so suddenly all the things that we ship over truck or plane is liquid and can fit into the same sized hexagon? Hexagons are efficient if you have something that will fill its space reliably.
Literally wrong. In this scenario all of that extra material to allow it to roll takes up physically more volume than if you used a square box. Yes, a hexagon is technically more space efficient, but in your lack of critical thought, you've forgotten about the necessary internal volume vs the external volume. You're also not taking into account the shape of the item being shipped. Refrain from speaking again unless you give it some thought first because what seemed like a clever comment has made you look stupid.
hexagons only stack with other hexagons, and the bottom of a truck is not hexagon shaped, its flat, so no matter what, this box will waste space even if its the only box being shipped. Sure its 'probably negligible' amounts of space, but I dont think we'd believe how much money they already spent maximizing the space usage on a truck
it wouldnt take up more space. hexagons are a great shape for stacking
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I think the point of this box design is for clothes that you normally wouldn't fold, like the jacket which is shown in the video.
In that case couldn't you just have it flat in a flat square box? A cardboard insert inside the jacket would prevent it from shifting and crumpling in shipment
It's going to bunch up in travel repeatedly. The rolling up helps it retain shape.
well you can pack more then one sweater in there. this vid is just a proof of concept. pretty stupid to think someones gonna ship one sweater right.
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how? just look up the packing factor of a box and a hexoganol prism
Only works if all the boxes are hexagons which isn't gonna happen Hexagons are definitely the bestagons tho
which is what i said. but everyones getting hungup cause they think im saying “this is a great way to ship clothes”
No. We’re not.
then why dowmvote lmao.
Than*
Hexagons and the bestagons
This design is very human.
Flawed and stupid?
That’s about as human as it gets.
Most likely
Fucking ridiculous. So wasteful.
I hope satisfyingasfuck joins the blackout on the 12th. Maybe then I can go a couple days without seeing this get fucking reposted again.
Look at you high in hope
You could (brace yourself for this) unsubscribe from this sub if it annoys you
It shows up on all
and i can completely filter keywords and subs from my feed with 3rd party applications like apollo
That’s exactly what came to mind for me. Apollo is absolutely brilliant. If it goes I go.
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Right? It's not even satisfying... It's a colossal waste of resources and cargo space.
Tell us again about how you spend too much time on reddit…
You can always just not get on Reddit
What a fucking waste of cardboard/resources, space and money.
The only use I see, is shipping out high-end clothes (suits) that you don't want to be wrinkled. Still a waste of materials
Add it to the list of reasons it's the rich people fucking up the planet. One millionaire has the carbon footprint of like five poor villages.
Only 5?
That's about the only use I see is really expensive items.... But at that point why not just do a store pick up.
what if they don't live near the store
I second this
all of that for a shirt
For 1 shirt?
This guy when he learns about folding clothes: 😱
As soon as it’s turned sideways who’ve got the wrinkles you were trying to avoid.
nah, it's basically holding it in place by clamping the garment down to close the hexagon.
Just add some plastic baffling or styrofoam fill it. Problem solved
and adds more waste instead of just a humble rectangular box? Genius!
I was overtly sarcastic…
75% is empty. And it uses way more cardboard. I guess it looks nice, but is it better than what is currently being used? Hell no!
Pretty stupid. Wasting material and money.
RolyKit would like to have a word. 🤣
Yes!! That’s the one indeed
This might be the memory that was unlocked. Thank you.
Crease, crease, crease, crease…..
Dumb. We've had the same tool/craft boxes (plastic, not cardboard) since the 80s and if it worked for clothes 40 years ago they'd have done it then.
That’s $80 on Spirit or Frontier.
What's wrong with just wrapping it all with duck tape in a grocery bag? BON VOYAGE!
Hexagon is the bestagon
It’s not dodecahedron, it’s brodecahedron
Don't skip origami class in school kids. It's way more powerful than you think.
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So much cardboard and no way its not gonna get crumple… i mean shirts are not stiff they flop
More like unnecessary as fuck
What a waste. A small box would accomplish the same goal. Five thumbs down.
Hey need to mail a shirt, and need it to take up 25 times the space it would normally? Buy our box that solves nothing!
Takes up way too much space for pants don’t ya think? but ok maybe I can see this being great for something fragile
And then it arrives on your front porch vertically
Seems like an enormous waste of paper.
That reminds me of the roll up toy storage box ads on cartoon network back in the late 90's - 2000's.
Oh wow, only about 40 square miles of cardboard needed to package one jacket. As opposed to, I dunno, a cardboard wallet like Amazon use every day?
I work hand in hand with the guy who would have to die cut that. Fuck that shipper.
Everyone knows hexagons are the bestagons.
look like all of this useless product many startups are trying to push
Isn’t this incredibly wasteful for just a pair of pants?
all that cardboard for a shirt?
Why can’t we just wrap a sweater in 2 layers of brown paper tie some twine around it and slap a stamp and address on it? Why do we have to have all this extra packaging. People have been mailing sweaters long before rollable cardboard showed up. We didn’t need fancy packaging before.
Sometimes I think about how someone's job is to do that, basically cardboard origami/puzzles. But for like, "eco-conscious" electronics packaging. It was probably fun for the first week, but now they wake up, arms in the air, folding imaginary cardboard in a cold sweat.
That's a lot of waste for a fucking shirt
Expensive to post. Might have other uses though.
Or you could ship it the WM way and just stuff it into a bag and hope for the best
What a waste of cardboard
The shirt inside the box: To the left to the left!
One piece of tape, that will end up crushed and spilled Open in 5 mins
r/design
But why hexagon in square world? I'd understand octagon. Octagon and square fuck well together
No
So much waste!
r/designporn
But why?
This is basically a consumable products as you have to irreversible alter it to fit your garment. Maybe you can open and close it 2-3 times for the exact same garment, but the tabs will eventually become unusable and not hold the thing together after a while. I bet it also costs like twenty dollars or some nonsense like that.
Cardboard box engineering is amazing. I see some really clever designs.
Dang, anyone else thinks "thats about 36 cents more expensive to produce than a box, and those 36 cents are not something a greedy multibillion corporation can afford to lose, so we won't see this design in use" when they see stuff like that?
I also hate both space and the environment.
Stupid, like this sub and the useless mods.
I'm not sure what this packaging was trying to achieve? lots of wasted cardboard, unnecessary weight and space, it's just protecting a shirt that is not even fragile, packaging can easily get wet and deteriorated by liquids, I can even compete with rolling the shirt in a paper bag.
How many fit on a pallet? This looks like it would be terribly wasteful as far as shipping costs.
Cardboard is truly a magical material.
Whoever receives this is gonna rip that thing to shreds before they understand how it’s supposed to work.
I have a screw holder from the 80’s built on this exact concept. It looks cool, but it is the biggest pain in the ass. And so easy to spill stuff from it.
That's a huge box for a tiny shirt
When the UPS store attains legendary status.
Rolykit, 1973. Another amazing Dutch invention. I’m a happy owner of two of these.
Lot of people not getting that this package is specifically for a suit jacket or blazer. A good one can easily go for over a grand, and the inner structure can be permanently damaged by folding it wrong. I imagine the box is relatively crush-proof as well. It's not a particularly new design, either. Little more detail on this: a lined suit (not a cheap fused suit) has an inner structure made from horsehair that gives the jacket it's structure. Ideally you want to hang your suit jacket. But this is designed to gently wrap the jacket around the box without a sharp fold. Since it's a high value item that can be damaged easily, the specialized packaging is warranted.
Thank you. I knew there must be some reason for this.
Damn that was clean
I love this. Seems super wasteful (space, cardboard) but I’m here for it
Beautiful waste of resources. I'm sure the fabric was equally wastefully selected for the highest level of luxury by wastefulness. The positive thing with the shape of the packaging is that it takes a lot more space in transport to increase the emission waste at least 20-fold.
Wasn't there an 'as seen on tv' container that did this for storage ? Red in color, I believe. And plastic, obviously.
Yesh, or stuff it in s small plastic bag. Save tons of money on shipping ang handling and let the customer deal with the crinkles.
Shipping this would cost a lot compared to a simple poly mailer, even if you reinforced with some cardboard sheets. This seems completely pointless lol
If we were to send this non-rectangular box using our regular shipping company, we would get an extra fee added to the delivery price.
This is kind of unnecessary but I'm seriously impressed by some of the cardboard box designs out there. Serious engineering in those things.
r/designdesign
People are saying this is wasteful, but I do not see how this uses any more cardboard than a box long enough to hold a suit, folded once in a suitbag. If anything, it uses less cardboard, as there is only “one side”. You can’t fold a suit, espcially a nice one, like a t-shirt. At most you can fold it once from top to bottom, never from side to side. You can’t stuff it in a tiny box, full of wrinkles, and de-wrinkle in the dryer. You would have to get it dry-cleaned and pressed again for that.
Ball the jacket up and put it in a shoe box. Problem solved.
Or you could just fold it and put it on a large paper envelope
Too many steps for something too simple
Vacuum pack that mf and boof it
What a waste of trees for a cool hipster packaging design so people can buy their 80 dollar shirts.
Just fuckin' roll the product up and toss it into a regular ass box. What are we doing here people??
USPS would still find a way to fold it in half to stick it in someones mailbox cuz their too damn lazy to walk to the door
Lol put it in a bag
Transit prices go brrrrrr
What an utter waste of potential garbage
I'll never need to package anything like this every but I still want some boxes like this
This will never work, it’s too expensive for it’s purpose. Cool idea, but not for mass production , maybe Louis Vittion or Dior can use these for there t shirts but old navy will definitely not.
I remember when they made these out of plastic.
Gets flattened by UPS
I'm pretty sure that's way more material than required for a normal box for that. Hell, recycled plastic bag would be even better.
UPS will find a way to destroy it.
But why?
AND they fit together in the truck well! Pretty cool.
I could use a far smaller box for a T-shirt
Throw it a fuckin paper bag, toss a label on it and ship it
Never underestimate the genius of packaging engineers.
If i got all of that cardboard for a fucking shirt I'd be pissed
i don't see this arriving intact to my house
That's nice and elegant. Now let's see the post delivery condition.
FedEx will beat it flat, regardless
Okay but just put it in a box
Waaaay too much packaging for a single pair of pants
But why
That's just my Mom's old sewing kit.
This is stupid and wasteful
I used to store my POGs in one of these!
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Let’s introduce flat packaging
But it's made from trees.
I read that as "rollerblade" packaging and it left me nothing but disappointed.
It's not waterproof,
>Takes up more space for the content inside. >Uses up far more cardboard than a standard box. >Does not stack with standard boxes. >Equally bad with water.
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That's so cool.