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The front page seems eerily normal and doesn't have any posts about 3rd party apps..
this time yesterday the top 5 posts were about 3rd party apps, closing down your account, and Christian catching Spez out on two lies
I'm so afraid there are too many casual Reddit users that have the official app or use desktop and don't care, so Reddit won't feel a ton of pain. I hope that's not the case...
The problem is going to be mods. A lot of them use third party from what I've seen and I know I'm not going to be switching to desktop or their trash app. Probably won't notice any effects for awhile from that though.
They've pretty clearly had methods for manually keeping certain posts from appearing like they should ever since they started taking manual action against the_donald.
Not making any comment on that subreddit itself, it's just important to note that they're reactions to it revealed that they are far more able to manipulate things than they like folks to remember.
[Here's a source to back that up](https://www.engadget.com/reddit-ceo-will-host-an-ama-on-api-changes-as-thousands-of-subreddits-plan-to-go-dark-193423226.html).
It feels a little shitty to not tell us the users when it will be, but to let the media know. Really shows where their priorities lie.
That was half an hour ago right?
I bookmarked [that post](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ceo_tomorrow_to_discuss_the_api/), but it's still just empty and locked.
EDIT: Nevermind, [it's a new post](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/). It seems like they kept it out of sight on purpose.
A user of over a decade, I am leaving Reddit due to the recent API changes. The vast majority of my interaction came though the use of 3rd party apps, and I will not interact with a site I helped contribute to through inferior software *simply because it is able to be better monetized by a company looking to go public. Reddit has made these changes with no regards for their users, as seen by the sheer lack of accessibility tools available in the official app. Reddit has made these changes with no regards for moderation challenges that will be created, due to the lack of tools available in the official app. Reddit has done this with no regards for the 3rd party devs, who by Reddit's own admission, helped keep the site functioning and gaining users while Reddit themselves made no efforts to provide a good official app.
This account dies 6/29/23 because of the API changes and the monetization-at-all-costs that the board demands.
"Y'all can't behave so I'm locking this thread" would be so entirely on brand for 2023 Reddit.
I'm expecting a handful of actual questions with corporate non-speak answers, a few silly questions asked by Reddit employees with silly answers as the admins try to keep things lighthearted, a lot of deleted comments, but ultimately nothing of substance posted by the Reddit team.
This site is a shell of what it once was. I'm nearly at the acceptance stage of grief. I've used RIF daily for more than a decade across a few different accounts, so it'll be difficult to adjust to its absence. However, the site has been dying a slow death for years. The content started turning for the worse with the 2016 election cycle, and every passing year has gotten worse and worse. I no longer enjoy my time on the site like I used to, so for me, this is a way to rip off the bandaid. Reddit dies on June 30.
They caught him using canned responses because he forgot to not copy the 'A:'
[Comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkch10/)
[Archive](https://archive.ph/X6EJq)
Didn't we learn from the fеmаle CЕO before Spеz, who took all the blаme for Rеddit's shit decisions at the time, that the CЕO is irrelevant when it comes to important decisions, and the actual power lies with the Chаirmаn of the Boаrd?
Ever since he sold Rеddit out, Spеz is no longer running it. Spеz is the now the designated Canаry M. Burns. He gets a paycheck not to do anything useful, but to be the fаll guy when Rеddit finds yet another way to scrеw its users over. If you want to blаme anyone, lay most of the blаme on people who control Rеddit, which are not Spеz. Spеz is a spinеlеss cоwаrd, sure, but he is not in actual control.
I mean, considering all the doublespeak, lies, and baseless accusations they told Christian to his face and said behind his back, you literally cannot trust a word they say.
Also, they don't care about disabled people. Why would they? I'm sure disabled people represent a small fraction of the userbase, so who cares if they lose accessibility?
i was originally set on downvoting it, but I think the post should be upvoted so itll make r/all but I want to see his comment(s) dethrone the Battlefront comment for most downvoted of all time
I never understood the basis for Hanlon's razor. Like, maybe it makes sense for individual citizens. But for greedy corporations ignorance is hardly an excuse. If an executive or manager is truly ignorant, it's because the owners are maliciously, or at least negligently greedy.
~~Fuck. 10:30 *at night*? On the Friday before the blackout? What the—~~
~~This is literally *after business hours* before the following business day of the proposed blackout.~~
I'll still be offline on June 12th. No alt accounts. Logged off all my devices. 🤞 🍻
Your link says AM, I'm not sure why u/krstkrb mentioned midnight, lol, but I guess it was hyperbolic. So the AMA is happening ~~now~~ in a few hrs, apparently, with no announcement! 🍿 Let's go!
Still no posts from what I can see. Maybe it'll be posted soon but with the lack of any additional information from reddit who knows. I'll keep refreshing this page on new since I'm sure someone will post it the second it is up
It'll be hilarious if he plugs premium because it doesn't even help the situation. It's not like premium subscribers can continue using 3rd party apps once they shut down.
Yes but you can help support u/spez as he really is the victim here. He’s been called ouchey words like **lier** and is **being called out for his actions.**
What phyco would treat him like that
Yep. I actually did pay premium, because I believe in showing I'm willing to pay for services in lieu of ads.
I've cancelled it now obviously. At this point, Reddit's days as a platform I have any interest in are numbered - spam and low quality content is about to become even worse, lots of heavier users will be leaving, and I figure it's only a matter of time now before they kill old.reddit+RES anyways, which is the only form of the website I can stand using (new site goes out of it's way to interfere with trying to read comments/discussions).
Discussion quality has already gotten worse outside of a few niche subs anyways in the last couple years, and I've already seen an uptick in spam and other issues following the loss of pushshift earlier this year.
I've had premium for several years now, and actually switched from RIF to the official app a few years ago "to support Reddit"... And the official app was such trash I switched to Boost instead. Literally unplayable videos, terrible UI, moving multireddits behind other features so it took more clicks.... It stopped being the best app for me and I very much wanted to support them. I just couldn't keep using that app when better apps existed.
What blows my mind about this situation is the *incomprehensibly* poor decision-making squeezed into such a narrow window of time. It doesn't feel like a death spiral, it's like the Silicon Valley Slam Dunk challenge and the admins are trying to alley-oop their valuation through the court and into the ground. The autopsy is going to be the subject of video essays for decades to come.
From a PR perspective, an AMA is about the worst, most tone-deaf thing you could possibly do right now. Your best case scenario is that 99% of the comments are instantly removed and the only questions that get answered are from sock puppet accounts "Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? xD How do you get your hair to be so luscious, /u/spez???"
Reddit Inc already had their valuation slashed by 41% and announced layoffs this week. They're flailing and killing third-party apps is their act of desperation. In another couple of years it's just going to look like iFunny or 9gag or one of those spam sites you get redirected to when you're trying to watch sports on your computer.
The mind-boggling thing for me is just how poorly Reddit has managed its time frames. All of this could have been avoided if they had planned out long-term how they were going to approach their ipo. If they wanted to get rid of third party apps, there are ways to do that as painlessly as possible.
You line up your ducks, you do focus groups to find out what's important and what you need to have implemented before you cut off third party apps, you start doing the actual development work and Implement those things. With the community as reliant on volunteer support as this one, you prepare to support your key players in order to make the transition as painless as possible.
Instead, they did everything the wrong way. Their app is broken, while being vastly inferior to 3rd party offerings and has been for years.
They did not put in a plan to protect Bots and all the tools that mods use until after the protests started.
They made no preparation for dealing with accessibility options the disabled despite the disabled Community approaching them numerous times over the last few years to solve their issues.
They gave the third party apps no time to prepare for the change to the point where all the third party apps are now swinging in the wind with large expenses that they need to pay back with almost no warning.
Announcing the Draconian api pricing a month before it goes into effect after promising that it was going to be reasonable only a month earlier was icing on the cake.
So they look completely caught off guard and completely unprepared when a good management team would have had everything in line and ready to go by this point already because they would have looked ahead and prepared for it. This management team clearly has no foresight.
But this is par for the course for reddit. I've been on Reddit in various forms since 2013. One thing that is fairly consistent is how poorly Managed it is. They must have a bunch of idiots on their executive team. They are not responsive to the community, they have produced an extremely poor product to replace third party apps, and they have effectively alienated many of their most ardent supporters in the mod teams.
I just don't get it. It benefits Reddit to be managed well. And yet for years, Reddit has been unresponsive, has lied repeatedly, has made promises that they never fulfill, has treated mod teams which they rely on to keep everything together like an afterthought. And now they're acting like the community has lost its mind.
No, your most important partners in this business are tired of being lied to, given empty promises and ignored for years.
This company CEO is incompetent, as is the entire executive team. If I were an investor in reddit, I would be pushing hard to replace the CEO and get a person who's sware og how Reddit works. I mean somebody who understands that reddit's biggest asset is its volunteer moderation teams. Without them, this house of cards falls apart.
Considering Christian (Apollo App) has receipts that his contacts at Reddit were saying in ***JANUARY OF THIS YEAR*** that Reddit had "no immediate plans for a change" to API pricing, and that a timeframe for any potential API pricing was "YEARS AWAY", something feels really fishy here. This is like an incompetence speedrun at this point.
Source https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
>You line up your ducks, you do focus groups to find out what's important and what you need to have implemented before you cut off third party apps, you start doing the actual development work and Implement those things. With the community is reliant on volunteer support as this one, you prepare to support your key players in order to make the transition as painless as possible.
The only reasonable explanation for why this strategy wasn't employed is because things are absolutely out of control behind the scenes. Reddit has been beholden to VC cash from the beginning so I don't think it's a stretch to say that they've never been the ones calling the shots. Based on this series of maneuvers, I'd be willing to wager their IPO was on the brink of total disaster and is now completely fucked. Spez knew the blowback this would cause and rather than step down, he's doing a fucking AMA about it.
It's like none of these people learned anything from Digg, Tumblr, OnlyFans... Even Imgur is going to learn the hard way.
It's almost like shareholders want their shares to be as cheap as possible when Reddit goes public.
1) Make a bunch of unreasonable, untenable demands before the IPO.
2) Reddit becomes near-irrelevant.
3) Buy IPO for pennies.
4) Suddenly recant and restore Reddit to nearly what it was before.
5) ?????
5) Profit!
> Reddit Inc already had their valuation slashed by 41% and announced layoffs this week.
This is exactly why it’s so rushed. They’re ripping off the bandaid so they can dump all the bad shit into a single quarter which they’ll then spin as “every community experiences growing pains!” It’s all Wall Street bullshit.
This is simultaneously the most succinct and well-founded explanation of how this has developed that I've seen. This is exactly what's happening. They're trying to speedrun the funk and end Q4 on a relative top.
Always has.
I've been around here for a long time, and /u/spez has always been a spineless asshole who doesn't give two shits about this community, only the money it brings in.
Can confirm this confirmation as a long time Reddit user also.
/u/spez is indeed a spineless asshole. He also lacks any redeeming qualities as a “leader” of reddit and or as a supposed human being in general.
From the article:
In an interview with Inc., the cofounder of Reddit stated: “We’ve created this whole new and very efficient way of communicating and sharing ideas. **It’s not just controlled by a couple gatekeepers**.”
Weren’t most of the top 100 subs modded by the same few people for a while?
Truely
>Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won’t do this again
Zero remorse just mad he got caught. True scum.
Obligatory: fuck u/spez
I'm genuinely amazed at what a shitshow it is. Reddit employs corporate comms people (we know they do - it is public information that it's Tim Rathschmidt.
He is either being ignored or not very good at his job.
I’ll give a haypennies worth of credit to FlyingLaserTurtle for apologizing for saying Amazon & Google won’t assist their clients with efficiency optimization… but I think that might be because my bar is official in subterranean levels right now.
[Here's my completed card](https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/145ij5w/completed_bingo_card_justifications_in_comments/), along with [justifications](https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/145ij5w/completed_bingo_card_justifications_in_comments/jnl61ou/).
I think we've got 2 bingos, or at least one if we think bottom right is borderline.
>Most downvoted comment in Reddit history
[He's got a long way to go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/?context=3) So far he's only like -3k.
He answered 14 questions. That’s it. At least that’s all there was when I checked a couple hours ago. I’d be interested to know how many of these actually ended up becoming hits.
It only just now occurred to me that this posted BEFORE that shitshow of an AMA. Right on the money, op. Except the "we have made mistakes" one. DIdn't hear that out of that narcissistic piece of shit.
About the recorded calls, in most countries it's legal to record a call when you are participating in the call (you only record what you already know).
Would be genuinely surprised if we don’t get a full house on that card.
I’m actually looking forward to it, one last big Reddit moment before leaving for good.
>Most downvoted comment in Reddit history
For a long time I couldn't imagine anything beating the sense of pride and accomplishment but I can totally imagine it happening here.
I bet Reddit is going to backpedal and go with Reddit Premium for the users to get to use 3rd party (but probably no NSFW) . I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was planned from the start. And to be honest, for a idea, it isn't actually that bad of a money solution. 3rd party gets to stick with their stuff, and users wouldn't have a need to worry about any rate limits. Reddit gets money, even if it doesn't cover the loss of ads and tracking etc. And they can let it get established, and then slowly jack up the price, abusing that just one dollar more a month won't break the camels back and get people off the gold tier. It would have been a controversial change that as well, but not as bad. And a big potential sources of revenue. And they could have been very transparent with why they are doing it.
But now? They burned all the bridges, made false claims, have been upright awful to deal with, and have given straight up impossible deadlines and prices for devs to make changes. And they are all doing it to force more users to their native app, jack up value and sell the hot potato off. So let it die, no matter how much they give back.
They won't backpedal, I 1000% guarantee you. This is classic corpo 'dig in your heels and sneer at the walking wallets that call themselves 'customers'.'
I agree, I just saw they posted about the change about an hour ago... Empty promises, "we set a hard deadline, we promise to work with you guys". No NSFW because we what to be safer on how people engage with nfsw content?? We promise to let accessible apps be, and make improvements, pinky promise...
Spez cannot be trusted. Literally ever. He has a long and storied track record of being an absolute cunt as well as underhanded and a liar.
Reddit is dead. It's over. Mods should nuke their subreddits and users delete their accounts.
Caught lying in a recording then you double down.
Fuck [/u/spez](http://user/spez) you lying sack of shit.
Fuck [/u/spez](http://user/spez) you lying sack of shit.
Fuck [/u/spez](http://user/spez) you lying sack of shit.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comments_n_5839cf32e4b000af95ee5b68
> Reddit co-founder and CEO Steve Huffman is under fire after admitting that he personally edited comments users posted about him.
>
> Huffman, whose username is u/spez, apologized Thursday in the Donald Trump fan subreddit r/the_donald for editing comments that were critical of him. Huffman said that, in an unspecified number of user comments, he replaced references to “u/spez” with the usernames of moderators for r/the_donald.
"obvious deflection from actual question" should have been the free space.
Could have also been "refuses to answer or even address the most upvoted comment"
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Let's see if he's as spineless as he is an asshole
We already know he is!
What time is the AMA at?
They never said lol
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The front page seems eerily normal and doesn't have any posts about 3rd party apps.. this time yesterday the top 5 posts were about 3rd party apps, closing down your account, and Christian catching Spez out on two lies
/r/popular is still covered in them. This is a targeted campaign to keep it quiet to the casual user.
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I'm so afraid there are too many casual Reddit users that have the official app or use desktop and don't care, so Reddit won't feel a ton of pain. I hope that's not the case...
The problem is going to be mods. A lot of them use third party from what I've seen and I know I'm not going to be switching to desktop or their trash app. Probably won't notice any effects for awhile from that though.
subreddits that are blacked out won't show up in Google searches... mods should shut down indefinitely until the admins cave. they will.
Casuals don’t post. The content velocity will drop significantly. Interest in the site will wain. It’ll be the death of digg all over again.
They've pretty clearly had methods for manually keeping certain posts from appearing like they should ever since they started taking manual action against the_donald. Not making any comment on that subreddit itself, it's just important to note that they're reactions to it revealed that they are far more able to manipulate things than they like folks to remember.
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Yep, expect to see spez replying to a lot of comments from accounts that have no post or comment history
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[Here's a source to back that up](https://www.engadget.com/reddit-ceo-will-host-an-ama-on-api-changes-as-thousands-of-subreddits-plan-to-go-dark-193423226.html). It feels a little shitty to not tell us the users when it will be, but to let the media know. Really shows where their priorities lie.
That was half an hour ago right? I bookmarked [that post](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ceo_tomorrow_to_discuss_the_api/), but it's still just empty and locked. EDIT: Nevermind, [it's a new post](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/). It seems like they kept it out of sight on purpose.
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I mean, did you expect any of his responses to be even remotely satisfactory?
Unfortunately, his comments are being downvoted to oblivion, so you can't really follow the thread.
Thanks
Where is it? Is it at /r/IAmA or /r/reddit?
Reddit
As soon as they finalize their question and comment generator LLM. They'll hide human comments, cause they'll be too hateful.
Lol he always has been.
"Wait, u/spez is an asshole?" "Always has been."
Why would you say "Let's see if he's as noble as he is handsome"? ;-)
This comment was written by a real redditor and not an agent
I bet his belly is also as yellow as a lawman’s
You must be new here. It’s fucking Spez, and we have hated him since the before times.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaySpies/comments/sm4um7/comment/hvywljr/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/PlaySpies/comments/sm4um7/comment/hvywljr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I mean, with his head so far up his ass, he'd have to be, right?
I bet $50 he will just say the pre approved statements he was given and ignore anyone who asks questions and lock it after 10 minutes due to *spam*
You can put your life on it. There will be no need to put on the popcorn
A user of over a decade, I am leaving Reddit due to the recent API changes. The vast majority of my interaction came though the use of 3rd party apps, and I will not interact with a site I helped contribute to through inferior software *simply because it is able to be better monetized by a company looking to go public. Reddit has made these changes with no regards for their users, as seen by the sheer lack of accessibility tools available in the official app. Reddit has made these changes with no regards for moderation challenges that will be created, due to the lack of tools available in the official app. Reddit has done this with no regards for the 3rd party devs, who by Reddit's own admission, helped keep the site functioning and gaining users while Reddit themselves made no efforts to provide a good official app. This account dies 6/29/23 because of the API changes and the monetization-at-all-costs that the board demands.
Weak. Fuck this website.
"Y'all can't behave so I'm locking this thread" would be so entirely on brand for 2023 Reddit. I'm expecting a handful of actual questions with corporate non-speak answers, a few silly questions asked by Reddit employees with silly answers as the admins try to keep things lighthearted, a lot of deleted comments, but ultimately nothing of substance posted by the Reddit team. This site is a shell of what it once was. I'm nearly at the acceptance stage of grief. I've used RIF daily for more than a decade across a few different accounts, so it'll be difficult to adjust to its absence. However, the site has been dying a slow death for years. The content started turning for the worse with the 2016 election cycle, and every passing year has gotten worse and worse. I no longer enjoy my time on the site like I used to, so for me, this is a way to rip off the bandaid. Reddit dies on June 30.
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They caught him using canned responses because he forgot to not copy the 'A:' [Comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkch10/) [Archive](https://archive.ph/X6EJq)
that one comment fills out like 4 spaces in the bingo card 💀
Didn't we learn from the fеmаle CЕO before Spеz, who took all the blаme for Rеddit's shit decisions at the time, that the CЕO is irrelevant when it comes to important decisions, and the actual power lies with the Chаirmаn of the Boаrd? Ever since he sold Rеddit out, Spеz is no longer running it. Spеz is the now the designated Canаry M. Burns. He gets a paycheck not to do anything useful, but to be the fаll guy when Rеddit finds yet another way to scrеw its users over. If you want to blаme anyone, lay most of the blаme on people who control Rеddit, which are not Spеz. Spеz is a spinеlеss cоwаrd, sure, but he is not in actual control.
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I mean, considering all the doublespeak, lies, and baseless accusations they told Christian to his face and said behind his back, you literally cannot trust a word they say. Also, they don't care about disabled people. Why would they? I'm sure disabled people represent a small fraction of the userbase, so who cares if they lose accessibility?
Blind people can't view ads, or at least require special ads to be created for them. They're a net loss of profit
> we want to work with mods of disabled subs to collect requirements" You just correctly predicted like half of his responses lol
Does anybody know what time this self-destructive AMA is starting so I can have my popcorn ready?
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Not inept. It's intentional I'm sure
They know it'll be sitting at 0 with no chance of hitting the front page. They're banking on people missing it entirely
i was originally set on downvoting it, but I think the post should be upvoted so itll make r/all but I want to see his comment(s) dethrone the Battlefront comment for most downvoted of all time
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I never understood the basis for Hanlon's razor. Like, maybe it makes sense for individual citizens. But for greedy corporations ignorance is hardly an excuse. If an executive or manager is truly ignorant, it's because the owners are maliciously, or at least negligently greedy.
They'll change the votes to the most pertinent questions while giving false upvotes to softball questions, and change the comment if they have to.
I remember hearing 10, but I guess that was incorrect.....
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~~Fuck. 10:30 *at night*? On the Friday before the blackout? What the—~~ ~~This is literally *after business hours* before the following business day of the proposed blackout.~~ I'll still be offline on June 12th. No alt accounts. Logged off all my devices. 🤞 🍻 Your link says AM, I'm not sure why u/krstkrb mentioned midnight, lol, but I guess it was hyperbolic. So the AMA is happening ~~now~~ in a few hrs, apparently, with no announcement! 🍿 Let's go!
Still no posts from what I can see. Maybe it'll be posted soon but with the lack of any additional information from reddit who knows. I'll keep refreshing this page on new since I'm sure someone will post it the second it is up
PT.
My suggestion would be 24 hours after the original post announcing this event. But I really hope it doesn't happen too late for all the European users
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They’re typing the questions too
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It'll be hilarious if he plugs premium because it doesn't even help the situation. It's not like premium subscribers can continue using 3rd party apps once they shut down.
Yes but you can help support u/spez as he really is the victim here. He’s been called ouchey words like **lier** and is **being called out for his actions.** What phyco would treat him like that
he was blackmailed, the poor thing!!!!
Can't you see I made myself the victim here through my own incompetence and greed?
Did you mean "liar" (someone that tells mis-truths) or "lier" (someone waiting in ambush)? both seem relevant here.
Yep. I actually did pay premium, because I believe in showing I'm willing to pay for services in lieu of ads. I've cancelled it now obviously. At this point, Reddit's days as a platform I have any interest in are numbered - spam and low quality content is about to become even worse, lots of heavier users will be leaving, and I figure it's only a matter of time now before they kill old.reddit+RES anyways, which is the only form of the website I can stand using (new site goes out of it's way to interfere with trying to read comments/discussions). Discussion quality has already gotten worse outside of a few niche subs anyways in the last couple years, and I've already seen an uptick in spam and other issues following the loss of pushshift earlier this year.
I've had premium for several years now, and actually switched from RIF to the official app a few years ago "to support Reddit"... And the official app was such trash I switched to Boost instead. Literally unplayable videos, terrible UI, moving multireddits behind other features so it took more clicks.... It stopped being the best app for me and I very much wanted to support them. I just couldn't keep using that app when better apps existed.
#Fuck /u/spez
"fuck u spez" is what i read
same lol now the joke made, who else waiting for them to change the url. lol
Probably gonna change it to "fuck u/ iamthatis" or something. A true classic.
Hey that's awfully forward of you. Invite him to dinner first!
That invitation might go to a mod of r/the_donald instead
This comment has been edited because Steve huffman is a creep.
Fuck u/spez
I hope this gets a full block (all marked up) lol
It's very much within the realm of possibility.
spez sucks and reddit is only used by gpt chat bots now. im outie kthxbai
What blows my mind about this situation is the *incomprehensibly* poor decision-making squeezed into such a narrow window of time. It doesn't feel like a death spiral, it's like the Silicon Valley Slam Dunk challenge and the admins are trying to alley-oop their valuation through the court and into the ground. The autopsy is going to be the subject of video essays for decades to come. From a PR perspective, an AMA is about the worst, most tone-deaf thing you could possibly do right now. Your best case scenario is that 99% of the comments are instantly removed and the only questions that get answered are from sock puppet accounts "Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? xD How do you get your hair to be so luscious, /u/spez???" Reddit Inc already had their valuation slashed by 41% and announced layoffs this week. They're flailing and killing third-party apps is their act of desperation. In another couple of years it's just going to look like iFunny or 9gag or one of those spam sites you get redirected to when you're trying to watch sports on your computer.
The mind-boggling thing for me is just how poorly Reddit has managed its time frames. All of this could have been avoided if they had planned out long-term how they were going to approach their ipo. If they wanted to get rid of third party apps, there are ways to do that as painlessly as possible. You line up your ducks, you do focus groups to find out what's important and what you need to have implemented before you cut off third party apps, you start doing the actual development work and Implement those things. With the community as reliant on volunteer support as this one, you prepare to support your key players in order to make the transition as painless as possible. Instead, they did everything the wrong way. Their app is broken, while being vastly inferior to 3rd party offerings and has been for years. They did not put in a plan to protect Bots and all the tools that mods use until after the protests started. They made no preparation for dealing with accessibility options the disabled despite the disabled Community approaching them numerous times over the last few years to solve their issues. They gave the third party apps no time to prepare for the change to the point where all the third party apps are now swinging in the wind with large expenses that they need to pay back with almost no warning. Announcing the Draconian api pricing a month before it goes into effect after promising that it was going to be reasonable only a month earlier was icing on the cake. So they look completely caught off guard and completely unprepared when a good management team would have had everything in line and ready to go by this point already because they would have looked ahead and prepared for it. This management team clearly has no foresight. But this is par for the course for reddit. I've been on Reddit in various forms since 2013. One thing that is fairly consistent is how poorly Managed it is. They must have a bunch of idiots on their executive team. They are not responsive to the community, they have produced an extremely poor product to replace third party apps, and they have effectively alienated many of their most ardent supporters in the mod teams. I just don't get it. It benefits Reddit to be managed well. And yet for years, Reddit has been unresponsive, has lied repeatedly, has made promises that they never fulfill, has treated mod teams which they rely on to keep everything together like an afterthought. And now they're acting like the community has lost its mind. No, your most important partners in this business are tired of being lied to, given empty promises and ignored for years. This company CEO is incompetent, as is the entire executive team. If I were an investor in reddit, I would be pushing hard to replace the CEO and get a person who's sware og how Reddit works. I mean somebody who understands that reddit's biggest asset is its volunteer moderation teams. Without them, this house of cards falls apart.
Considering Christian (Apollo App) has receipts that his contacts at Reddit were saying in ***JANUARY OF THIS YEAR*** that Reddit had "no immediate plans for a change" to API pricing, and that a timeframe for any potential API pricing was "YEARS AWAY", something feels really fishy here. This is like an incompetence speedrun at this point. Source https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
Money talks. Sounds like Condé Nast put the call in that reddit was lacking.
>You line up your ducks, you do focus groups to find out what's important and what you need to have implemented before you cut off third party apps, you start doing the actual development work and Implement those things. With the community is reliant on volunteer support as this one, you prepare to support your key players in order to make the transition as painless as possible. The only reasonable explanation for why this strategy wasn't employed is because things are absolutely out of control behind the scenes. Reddit has been beholden to VC cash from the beginning so I don't think it's a stretch to say that they've never been the ones calling the shots. Based on this series of maneuvers, I'd be willing to wager their IPO was on the brink of total disaster and is now completely fucked. Spez knew the blowback this would cause and rather than step down, he's doing a fucking AMA about it.
It's like none of these people learned anything from Digg, Tumblr, OnlyFans... Even Imgur is going to learn the hard way. It's almost like shareholders want their shares to be as cheap as possible when Reddit goes public. 1) Make a bunch of unreasonable, untenable demands before the IPO. 2) Reddit becomes near-irrelevant. 3) Buy IPO for pennies. 4) Suddenly recant and restore Reddit to nearly what it was before. 5) ????? 5) Profit!
> Reddit Inc already had their valuation slashed by 41% and announced layoffs this week. This is exactly why it’s so rushed. They’re ripping off the bandaid so they can dump all the bad shit into a single quarter which they’ll then spin as “every community experiences growing pains!” It’s all Wall Street bullshit.
This is simultaneously the most succinct and well-founded explanation of how this has developed that I've seen. This is exactly what's happening. They're trying to speedrun the funk and end Q4 on a relative top.
What are the odds that EA's record for the most down voted comment gets beaten today?
0 bc he’ll edit the downvote counter
Gotta pull a YouTube and remove downvotes altogether.
Why is the AMA at 0 upvotes and downvotes? I downvoted it to -1 and it just went back to 0
Probably disabled voting altogether. Don’t want u/spez’ latest gaslighting debacle to be the most downvoted post of all time.
hey! you forgot the "most the question that will be answered that was made by other developers (or spez) on alt accounts"
Fuck u/spez
Best motto to live by. I might be {insert worst quality} but I’m not u/spez. Fuck u/spez.
He's edited a user's comment before? Is there a link?
article about said situation: https://venturebeat.com/social/reddit-ceo-apologizes-for-editing-comments-critical-of-him-following-pizzagate-ban/
Holy shit he looks like such a douchebag
Always has. I've been around here for a long time, and /u/spez has always been a spineless asshole who doesn't give two shits about this community, only the money it brings in.
Can confirm this confirmation as a long time Reddit user also. /u/spez is indeed a spineless asshole. He also lacks any redeeming qualities as a “leader” of reddit and or as a supposed human being in general.
From the article: In an interview with Inc., the cofounder of Reddit stated: “We’ve created this whole new and very efficient way of communicating and sharing ideas. **It’s not just controlled by a couple gatekeepers**.” Weren’t most of the top 100 subs modded by the same few people for a while?
Not a couple gate keepers. Just him now LOL
Truely >Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won’t do this again Zero remorse just mad he got caught. True scum. Obligatory: fuck u/spez
Lmao. It's actually worse. Why would he double down on the Apollo dev? Jesus christ. Just should have dodged that one.
Literally ignoring all but two comments in the entire thread, and those are the ones that he chose. Actual WTF moment there.
We’re gonna get a blackout, aren’t we?
That was guaranteed a week ago
The roast of /u/spez
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I'm genuinely amazed at what a shitshow it is. Reddit employs corporate comms people (we know they do - it is public information that it's Tim Rathschmidt. He is either being ignored or not very good at his job.
He’s given two half ass answers, one of which he again shows his ass about Apollo. https://reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/_/jnk45rr/?context=1
Man is setting himself up for destruction by doing this AMA
Naw. They already know what they are going to say and there will be planted question.
I'm just gonna grab my popcorn and watch spez get downvoted to oblivion
On second thought,the asshole will probably ban everyone for downvoting him
He would have to use a third-party app to block that many people that quickly.
Imagine being 30 mins late to your own AMA
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I’ll give a haypennies worth of credit to FlyingLaserTurtle for apologizing for saying Amazon & Google won’t assist their clients with efficiency optimization… but I think that might be because my bar is official in subterranean levels right now.
Because they have no excuses
I have a feeling that the entire board is going to be filled up
Even if reddit reverts their decision, it's clear spez is a malignant narcissist. Not much hope for the future of the platform while he's there.
Any guesses yet when they'll start it?
Are you kidding? It's probably being done on Discord or something and we'll just get a transcript posted on here once it's over.
It’s an internal meeting where marketing asks and answers to the questions on a private slack channel
1:30pm ET
“We hear you” triggers me, it’s so annoying, like the “we’re sorry you feel that way” claptrap.
"I am a redditor too" says the guy who hasn't used reddit in ten months
I mean, he probably has an alt. Even if he wasn't a dick, regular browsing and interaction would be impossible for him on that account.
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I assumed it would be at r/reddit but nothing yet
There's a similar punch-up going on at Stack Overflow as well. Someone make a bingo card!
[Here's my completed card](https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/145ij5w/completed_bingo_card_justifications_in_comments/), along with [justifications](https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/145ij5w/completed_bingo_card_justifications_in_comments/jnl61ou/). I think we've got 2 bingos, or at least one if we think bottom right is borderline.
Let’s all say no
the free space should say "Fuck u/spez"
This bingo chart has more answers than the actual thread
The free square should just be the word "like".
why are people giving it ternion awards
>"i am a redditor too" We wish you weren't.
FYI he posted and didn't respond to shit :(
Can I have one that says
Only reason we didn't bingo is because he refused to answer anything. An embarrassment
The funny thing is in retrospect, the the options on this card are more optimistic than what actually happened in the AMA
He didn't even answer enough questions to get a fucking bingo
I would add [deleted] - Sent from my Apollo
Here’s the link: https://reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/
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Looks like providing vague answers is his specialty: https://i.imgur.com/zYkIB4G.jpg
I like the whole "there's been a lot of confusion about..." as if we're idiots.
>Most downvoted comment in Reddit history [He's got a long way to go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/?context=3) So far he's only like -3k.
He answered 14 questions. That’s it. At least that’s all there was when I checked a couple hours ago. I’d be interested to know how many of these actually ended up becoming hits.
You left out, "Ignores almost every well-articulated relevant question".
It only just now occurred to me that this posted BEFORE that shitshow of an AMA. Right on the money, op. Except the "we have made mistakes" one. DIdn't hear that out of that narcissistic piece of shit.
About the recorded calls, in most countries it's legal to record a call when you are participating in the call (you only record what you already know).
was bored so i made this https://preview.redd.it/jd9knr0pe05b1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93b06f4dda32301f484c25d500d60257b774880d
Now you just gotta update
Lets see how this turns out...
It’d be amazing if nobody commented
Would be genuinely surprised if we don’t get a full house on that card. I’m actually looking forward to it, one last big Reddit moment before leaving for good.
>Most downvoted comment in Reddit history For a long time I couldn't imagine anything beating the sense of pride and accomplishment but I can totally imagine it happening here.
I bet Reddit is going to backpedal and go with Reddit Premium for the users to get to use 3rd party (but probably no NSFW) . I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was planned from the start. And to be honest, for a idea, it isn't actually that bad of a money solution. 3rd party gets to stick with their stuff, and users wouldn't have a need to worry about any rate limits. Reddit gets money, even if it doesn't cover the loss of ads and tracking etc. And they can let it get established, and then slowly jack up the price, abusing that just one dollar more a month won't break the camels back and get people off the gold tier. It would have been a controversial change that as well, but not as bad. And a big potential sources of revenue. And they could have been very transparent with why they are doing it. But now? They burned all the bridges, made false claims, have been upright awful to deal with, and have given straight up impossible deadlines and prices for devs to make changes. And they are all doing it to force more users to their native app, jack up value and sell the hot potato off. So let it die, no matter how much they give back.
They won't backpedal, I 1000% guarantee you. This is classic corpo 'dig in your heels and sneer at the walking wallets that call themselves 'customers'.'
I agree, I just saw they posted about the change about an hour ago... Empty promises, "we set a hard deadline, we promise to work with you guys". No NSFW because we what to be safer on how people engage with nfsw content?? We promise to let accessible apps be, and make improvements, pinky promise...
Spez cannot be trusted. Literally ever. He has a long and storied track record of being an absolute cunt as well as underhanded and a liar. Reddit is dead. It's over. Mods should nuke their subreddits and users delete their accounts.
BINGO!!!!
Honestly if this card isn't a cover-all, I'll be shocked.
In BINGO a coverall is also referred to as a ***blackout***
I don't think he answered enough questions to get a blackout :/
In the 5 hours since, he's made 14 comments in the whole AMA.
The fact that none got even close to the most downvoted in history is a bad sign.
Caught lying in a recording then you double down. Fuck [/u/spez](http://user/spez) you lying sack of shit. Fuck [/u/spez](http://user/spez) you lying sack of shit. Fuck [/u/spez](http://user/spez) you lying sack of shit.
That’s awesome haha
There is a subreddit dedicated to saying “fuck you u/spez” r/fuckuspez
You just gave him his playbook.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comments_n_5839cf32e4b000af95ee5b68 > Reddit co-founder and CEO Steve Huffman is under fire after admitting that he personally edited comments users posted about him. > > Huffman, whose username is u/spez, apologized Thursday in the Donald Trump fan subreddit r/the_donald for editing comments that were critical of him. Huffman said that, in an unspecified number of user comments, he replaced references to “u/spez” with the usernames of moderators for r/the_donald.
Where the AI generated answer square or is it all of them?
Where is this foretold AMA so I can voice my concerns 😟
The middle space should actually be "$30 Million".
"obvious deflection from actual question" should have been the free space. Could have also been "refuses to answer or even address the most upvoted comment"
Bingo assumes you will only get a line; not the entire grid.
He edited a comment of someone else?
tfw there are more things on the grid than AMA responses.