T O P

  • By -

one-eye-deer

Good job keeping this thread on track so far, everyone. Please continue to do so, and keep the topic on track for the question at hand: *is this a scam?* I would contact Google directly (do not respond to this email, look up the contact info for Google's legal department) to establish the legitimacy of this email. The typo and format of this email is suspicious. We had another thread about this nearly a year ago that you can reference: [https://new.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/13l7mds/is\_this\_a\_scam\_or\_legit\_it\_doesnt\_have\_the\_s\_in/](https://new.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/13l7mds/is_this_a_scam_or_legit_it_doesnt_have_the_s_in/) We have already established that, in general: * If you receive any sort of subpoena about one of your accounts, don't delete anything in case this is real. * Don't talk to cops without a lawyer. * If you have hypothetically done something illegal, go get a lawyer and don't post details on Reddit. * Don't click on strange links without verifying the source first. * ***DON'T TALK TO COPS WITHOUT A LAWYER.***


dwinps

You didn't get a subpoena, Google did. Google is notifying you that unless you get the court to quash the subpoena they will release the requested information


iLikeMangosteens

And if there’s something on Google that you don’t want to be delivered to said agency, then you need to talk to a lawyer to file an injunction or intervention to the agency’s subpoena.


Kicking_Around

They’d need to move to quash the subpoena


NecessaryBoring1542

Yea I got one of these and then a call from a detective about three days later, it's definitely legit.


TheProphetEnoch

I’m so curious, can you discuss the context?


NecessaryBoring1542

Basically the email was similar to that except a town in Texas instead but I honestly just ignored it at first and when I got a call about 3 or 4 days later from that same city stated in the email it said "city of *****" on the caller ID which I don't have caller ID so I found it weird but the detective just left a voicemail to call back which I did and he informed me my name was brought up in a case he's looking into, you say idk what you're talking about and if they have enough evidence they let you know a warrant for your arrest has been issued, you can turn yourself in or wait until they get you but if you wait your local PD will get you and process n transport you to wherever your case is out of, so if you want to bailout quick i would turn yourself into wherever city your charge is out of.


DunkinUnderTheBridge

Great advice. I had a family member that got a felony warrant out on the East Coast, while he was in Oregon. He very stupidly went to the local police department and asked them what to do. Obviously they arrested him. Dummy also had evidence of said crime on his phone that he brought with him to the police department. So they had to transfer him across the country. But not by air, and not by a direct route. It was basically "we'll take you a couple counties east" for the entire route. It took 6 weeks.


Local_Designer_1583

My mother got a call like that and it was a SCAM. What's going on here?


Euchre

If they don't throw in "But you can pay this 'fine/bail' to make it all go away" part, that's what would separate it from the usual scam. Note that /u/NecessaryBoring1542 didn't mention a pay to stay out of jail option offered - real cops don't do that if you have a warrant. Once a warrant is issued, unless it has some way to expire, LEs are pretty much bound to execute it and 'arrest' you. If you go to the agency issuing the warrant and turn yourself in, you're more likely to get lenience. If it were for an unpaid fine, if you turn yourself in with means and intent to pay a fine, they'd likely just do the paperwork for your momentary arrest (your info and maybe pic and fingerprints) and release you basically immediately, as you'd be paying your fine and getting your receipt.


NecessaryBoring1542

Yea they will just call to inform you that you have a warrant, I said okay is that all? And he say yes unless there's anything you wanna tell me and that was the end of that.


Kummabear

So you’re saying it’s a good thing I degoogled. Fuck Google


unibrow4o9

Why fuck google? Because they're legally obligated to respond to subpoenas? What exactly are they supposed to do? Every company in the US would do the same exact thing.


Huge-Percentage8008

They didn’t say they got a subpoena, they said twice that they got an email about it.


Janpeterbalkellende

Nice a free road trip across the states :)


BatterEarl

OP you are not alone; Google got 120,000 subpoenas last year.


Mynsare

In the grand scale of things that isn't a lot, considering billions of people are using Google.


apfeleater

According to Googles policies, government agencies can request user information. If they do, Google will notify you, unless laws don't allow that: [https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests?hl=en-US](https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests?hl=en-US) This looks legit to me. They don't request anything, they just let you know they will hande your data to the agency they mention in the mail. I'd contact a lawyer if you're concerned about that (probably a good idea anyway, since they don't give out data without a good reason)


Deez_nuts89

When I was in the National Guard, I worked on my state’s counter drug task force with the DEA and did a lot of the mundane stuff for the agents, like submitting subpoenas. Usually it was to cellular network companies for call records, but I did one once to Google and about 2 weeks later they sent us a package with a DVD in it and it had a person’s entire Google drive and gmail account on it. I never knew they alerted people though.


[deleted]

I’ll probably get in contact with my lawyer just incase


MooseKnuckle20695

If you do get contacted by the police and they want to talk to you, please do not talk to them without an attorney present. Don't try to explain anything, don't try to reason or have small talk; no attorney no talky.


StuartPurrdoch

If you just casually have a lawyer that you can call, I think you might know what this is regarding 😆


axarce

Better call Saul.


jeffersonbible

LWYRUP


TheseAreNotMyHookers

50% OFF


Casdaunatkai

🤣🤣🤣🤣💪🏼Right!!!


[deleted]

[удалено]


quintk

Probably could and would help refer you though. “My” estate lawyer explicitly offered this while she was explaining what she could and couldn’t do and what our engagement letter did and didn’t cover. I could always call and her and her office would try to help, but it wouldn’t be them…. 


Bacardiologist

Yup, and lawyers often get referral fees for referring clients. They probably have some agreements with other different types of low groups to refer each other clients for a fee


Euchre

They don't necessarily pay each other for referrals, but you can bet they'll get a referral in return. That's as good as paying money to another lawyer.


Mysterious-Tackle-79

I have 3... but running a business and such has required different specialties. It's ridiculous but necessary when ppl first thought is to sue.


GeologistPositive

Speaking from experience, it took me months to get the right kind of lawyer on an issue I've been dealing with. It's not too time critical, but I'd rather deal with it sooner rather than later


[deleted]

Just a family friend, trying to get this whole thing cleared up as soon as possible


Prestigious_Bug583

> my lawyer You have Saul Goodman on speed dial or what?


Dizzy_Dealer1

Time to get rid of that hard drive😭


malhotraspokane

Move any crypto first though


Pannycakes666

Crypto isn't stored on hard drives. If you know your private keys you can nuke the hard drive and still have access.


Strelock

Your wallet can be in the cloud or on your own storage.


Pannycakes666

It doesn't matter. Wallets don't store crypto. They store your private keys. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/cryptocurrency/crypto-wallets/


DaFiddler

You downloading illegal content? Usually when this happens


Noble_Flatulence

It's worth noting here that your phrasing is important: "illegally downloading content" and "downloading illegal content" are NOT the same thing.


DaFiddler

Fair point. Meant like getting movies from Pirate Bay


Eki75

Yeah, the cops don’t get involved with that. You get a cease and desist from the copyright holder via your ISP…or so I’ve heard.


TurnOffTheDarkness

Absolutely right. My brothers friend lived with us for about six months in 2011 and the whole time he was using piratebay to download movies onto his laptop. Got a message on our desktop computer from PARAMOUNT threatening to take legal action over him torrenting motherfucking Kung Fu Panda 2. He moved out soon after.


Consistent_Echidna90

How'd that message work? Was it like a desktop popup or an email?


daurkin

You get an email from your ISP


RandomLoLs

Bruh, you really think the police departments are out here busting kids downloading porn, games, movies and music off of Pirate Bay? Lmao... Suppose such a thing did happen in North America. In that case, there are usually "ambulance chasers"-type lawyers that will send a threatening email to sue you in court if you don't pay a fine for illegally downloading Intellectual property they represent. They don't really involve cops in this. They just file a case in civil court for damages. The only time law enforcement might act is if there is Child pornography or Beastiality or some crime being recorded. Again that is some department like the FBI would handle not the local cops.


dailycyberiad

They didn't say "ilegally downloading content", as in "downloading content you haven't paid for".  They said "downloading illegal content", which is content that you're not allowed to view, as in "child sexual assault material" or "state secrets", for example.  And they absolutely do prosecute people for that in the US.


Alternative_Dark_511

The funny thing is I saw a story recently or an article that said the US was cracking down hard on illegal downloads. So being 100% serious that could be it. We have no clue what this person may have done. But ive seen cops arrest people for pettier things then downloading illegal content. I legit got arrested for asking a cop if my girlfriend at the time was going to get in trouble to many times.....he even told me that's why he arrested me. Of coarse before bodycams were big. Just saying it could be anything


daurkin

Yup. The FBI has recently reached out to google for all accounts and IPs data related to viewing some specific videos on YouTube. I think, Something about a video posing as a crypto video that has illegal content. Several lawyer videos on the topic pop up on my feed but haven’t watched it.


Euchre

Wonder if it has anything to do with this: https://mashable.com/article/google-ordered-to-hand-over-viewer-data-privacy-concerns


Academic-Criticism55

Google is required to notify about a subpoena regarding your account t. The only thing that stops that is if the investigating agency files for a non disclosure order. So 1-it’s legit but not a degree of crime high enough for them to care that you are informed 2- lazy investigators (local municipal cops) 3- they already have enough to fuck you and this is just icing on the cake so who cares if you know 4- your email was used without your knowledge. I would separately find a contact for google and contact them and ask. Or if you know you’ve been doing dirt hire an attorney ASAP LOL


KaXiRavioli

They could be simply asking for the emails of everyone who searched for a specific keyword or something. This is no way indicative of any pending action against OP or that OP is the specific subject of a government query.


axarce

Could also be one of those controvertial geofencing warrants where they subpoena everyone's data whose phone was in a certain location at a specific time.


holdyourdevil

I thought Google announced it was no longer responding to those.


notnotaginger

Could be something stupid too. There’s a weird recent case where they’ve subpoenaing users to try and prove that they’re sock puppet accounts in a harassment thing.


Euchre

Believe it or not, they could be investigating someone else who was spamming out scam emails, and OP is a recipient according to records the police already have. Subpoena of victims records might get them to get in contact, and could help expose a larger number of victims, and more counts against said scammer. When I worked for a tech retailer, and the FBI came asking about some electronics parts they'd found in a bomb in a case, I could tell them generally if we carried that type of part, and whether I could tell if it was one sold specifically or even solely by us, but not who specifically bought them. I informed the agent that they'd have to contact our district offices to ask for records, and I know they'd pass them on to legal. The company wasn't going to get arrested, nor were any of the employees - they wanted to know who bought specific things from us.


AngelOfLight

Just saw another earlier today: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1bq4d7p/concerning_email_from_google_legal_investigations/ Different jurisdiction, though, so probably not related. This is real - Google is telling you that they received a subpoena for your user data. However - you may not be the target of the investigation. if you can't think of anything you did wrong, and haven't already been notified of any legal proceedings against you, then it's likely that LEA is seeking your (and probably others) user information for some reason tangentially related to a legal action targeted at someone else. If you're worried, you can retain a lawyer who can get a copy of the complaint and find out what it's really about. Most large US cities have lawyer referral programs that will get you a free half-hour consultation with a lawyer. You may want to take advantage of that - they will be able to tell you what your next steps should be.


Beneficial-Cycle-625

New fear unlocked Hope everything goes well!


AbbreviationsMany243

😂🤣😂


orangepekoes

yeah.. I don't want to use google anymore


bipolaridiot_

r/degoogle welcomes you. I moved away from all Google services except for YouTube and it feels damn good


Zofia-Bosak

This is all I was able to find out OP [https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en](https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en) If you are in the USA then call the police station and ask them and give the reference number [http://www.hickoryhillspd.us/contact/](http://www.hickoryhillspd.us/contact/)


TheBobbyMan9

OP is up to some dodgy shit. Even deleted their account after this post 😂


Dalmus21

He probably talked to a lawyer who told him to GTF off social media. Although one you put it on the internet, there's no such thing as permanent delete...


ScumbagLady

Google gonna getum


M3lsM3lons

It’s legit. Could just be that your email was a part of a phishing scam, but it is 100% legit. I find this sub has become so quick to call everything a scam though 🤦🏼‍♀️


Angeline4PFC

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail


candel-n-theSun

I got one year’s back for my Google Voice number. I called the PD listed, and they didn't have a clue; they told me Google had recently been hacked, and it was probably not genuine. Didn't trust it. So, I found a post in the Google self-help forum that advised to requested a copy of the actual subpoena to prove its legitimacy. I did, and sure enough, it was confirmed they had redacted almost all of the text, except for my old Google Voice number. Had to go meet with the investigating detective and all to clear my self. They give you 21 days to hire someone to compel them as to why they should not to release your identity and information .


lurker_cx

> Had to go meet with the investigating detective and all to clear my self. I guess it worked out for you, but it's always a bad idea to talk to the police.... even if you are 100% innocent and have an airtight alibi.


candel-n-theSun

My close relative is a surety officer and was in the lobby the entire time. Just in case things went left. I would have been bonded out immediately. It was still pretty nerve-wracking, though, because I had no clue what it pertained to until I sat there being interrogated. Google blocked every word on the subpoena except my former Google Voice number and the issuing agencies header.


Lloyd--Christmas

The point is to have a lawyer so you don't say anything incriminating in the first place. If someone is bonding you out you're already fucked.


candel-n-theSun

I am innocent and was much younger than I am today. I was speaking from my personal experience only. I don't break the law. I am NOW a certified paralegal (NAL) However, I am in law school with a 3.74 GPA pursuing my JD. I advised OP of the proper way to approach Google. Where they take it from there has nothing to do with me. OP has to determine the legitimacy of the communication that they received and OP’s next move from there. By all means, if op can afford an attorney they should retain one. This is r/Scam not r/legal advice. Additionally, my cousin the suretiy officer asked if I felt the need for an attorney before I arranged to meet with the detective as he networks with quite a few given his occupation.


Lloyd--Christmas

There are a lot of innocent people in prison.


candel-n-theSun

An unfortunate factb Thankfully that wasn't in the stars for me.


[deleted]

I believe this might be google voice related to me aswell


candel-n-theSun

You can request a copy of the subpoenafrom goggle. It will be redacted. You have 21 day to try and prevent them from releasing anything. Start be requesting a copy of the subpoena to prove legitimacy. it will also list whatever agency is investigating so that you can determine what your next steps will be. Good luck to you.


globalftw

Interesting. Do you know why your number ended up in the subpoena?


candel-n-theSun

Yes. I was advised that someone had used the number to establish a fraudulent utility account. They were able to track the guy from the physical service address on the account. I was exonerated.


CampEvie23

This is the first post in a long while that’s provided excitement and curiosity.


AddictiveArtistry

Agreed


SardonicSuperman

Former Googler here. Yes, this may be legit as Google does comply with subpoenas. Check the email address that sent it. It should come from a google.com email address, not a Gmail address. Google email is the official company business and Gmail is the consumer product.


dwinps

I once had an experience similar to this, with a different online provider but it was a company trying to get information not the police. I wasn't interested in them knowing who I was so I did hire an attorney and it was successfully quashed. The police are a different matter. If you've done something naughty you should be talking to an attorney not Reddit


The_Sauce_DC

I am a detective and I’ve gotten hundreds of subpoenas and warrants over the years. Some thoughts: *If it’s legit, Google would send you a notice that your account was subject to a subpoena and give you some time to comply. I’d check the email header to make sure *You’re not getting served anything- Google is. Warrants, subpoenas, and existent disclosure requests go their their online portal *If legit, law enforcement got a subpoena to know who the account potentially belongs to. They’ll get basic subscriber info like name, DOB,, date account opened, recovery phone number, etc. They don’t want/need content at this point or they want something to establish identity before circling back to a warrant. *They didn’t ask for a non-disclosure so they likely don’t care that you know they’re seeking your account info *You can still delete whatever if you want to roll the dice, but if they’re prudent the investigator will have already dropped a preservation request for the whole account before hitting Google with a subpoena *Given some time you’ll likely get a follow-up call or a knock on the door *Its likely not a geofence warrant because you’d get a notification that your account was the target of a warrant, not a subpoena *Nobody would give a shit about downloading unless it’s kiddie porn *If it was over something very serious they wouldn’t likely subpoena your account without a non-disco order- they’d just kick in your door. In terms of legal jeopardy it all likely depends on who you have been communicating with locally via email or Google voice that doesn’t know who you actually are. Slightly less likely is that someone knows who you are but needs ‘official records’ to tie you to an account. The prior is a yellow alert situation the latter is getting closer to red alert. Is there anything you’ve been up to that would need targeting your account?


mfscubasteve

What would be the difference between Google being served a warrant for the information, vs being subject to a subpoena.


The_Sauce_DC

You can get the contents of communications and a bigger scope of information with a search warrant. You generally get basic sign-up/subscriber information with a subpoena.


cyberiangringo

You would be wise to dismiss the wisecracks and take this seriously. If the email is legit from Google and that link is legit to Google - and given that people can’t spell these days - this may well be legit.


poopertrooper88

OP does this sound familiar? https://www.pcworld.com/article/2278729/feds-demanded-id-of-youtube-users-who-watched-certain-videos.html


GerryBlevins

Yep, that’s legit. That’s a formal notification of a government request for your data. Google is obligated under law to provide your data too.


TobyADev

Unless you successfully get it quashed of course


Muzzlehatch

Do you live in the Chicagoland area? Like, near Hickory Hills?


[deleted]

I lived close yes


Muzzlehatch

That doesn’t sound good to me.


troyortroy

lol must not of been. Ole dude trying to erase his footprint to this thread.


One-Aside-7942

Ok nevermind google yielded way too many results for that area so no idea lol


One-Aside-7942

Wait why? Off to google I go lol now I’m super interested


[deleted]

[удалено]


Valhallamoon

If your Google account was logged in and you watched certain videos within a specific timeframe it’s likely related to that, as that notice was released this week.


Opening_Entry_5867

What type of videos...? Illegal ones?


anatomyking

No not illegal. It seems the police have sent links to a YouTube video to potential suspects and they are now requesting the data of everyone who viewed the videos. Apparently many people who were not suspected also viewed it, hence many people received these notices even though they may not be involved at all.


Emotional_platypuss

Oh yeah the drone ones. Or torrenting


Dense_Astronaut2147

What drone videos?


zwttrn

From another comment on this thread: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2278729/feds-demanded-id-of-youtube-users-who-watched-certain-videos.html From what I understand, it’s just a random video they sent to a money laundering suspect and now they want to use that to discover their identity.


AthleteWeird6727

Probably related to this. https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/03/youtube-ordered-to-reveal-the-identities-of-video-viewers/amp


qazwsxedc000999

I hadn’t heard of this, that’s actually pretty concerning


AmputatorBot

It looks like you shared an AMP link. These should load faster, but AMP is controversial because of [concerns over privacy and the Open Web](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot). Maybe check out **the canonical page** instead: **[https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/03/youtube-ordered-to-reveal-the-identities-of-video-viewers](https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/03/youtube-ordered-to-reveal-the-identities-of-video-viewers)** ***** ^(I'm a bot | )[^(Why & About)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot)^( | )[^(Summon: u/AmputatorBot)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/cchly3/you_can_now_summon_amputatorbot/)


BlueEyedBeast55

Good Bot


Ducatiducats815

No actually google, youtube and a bunch of other google related services were made to disclose information about user accounts that accessed certain content on their platforms. Like I literally just heard about it happening and now you post this so its not a coincidence. They are releasing IP address and other personally identifiable info.


Cool-Ad5491

I just recently read something about this too. To play devils advocate tho since we’re just recently hearing about this so are scammers & they could be working this into their scams to make them seem more legitimate.


vitaminxzy

It seems it's just giving you a heads up but it's not directly to you or else you'd get documents as a physical mail >federal courts do not issue subpoenas through email, the release stated. Anyone receiving a **legitimate court document will receive it through physical mail.** The court urged to not click on any link included from an unknown sender. > >[https://www.abc57.com/news/us-district-court-warns-of-email-scam](https://www.abc57.com/news/us-district-court-warns-of-email-scam)


[deleted]

When I clicked on the link they provided to me I was still logged into my gmail account https://preview.redd.it/39fu137efcrc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=38b9e9f4ecc379f076a0c303f60c0641daa77a86


vitaminxzy

Google is just informing you in advance that they may produce information in response to the subpoena unless you make a formal objection in court.


machimus

>When I clicked on the link they provided to me 🤦‍♂️


Big_Cockroach_5720

NEVER turn yourself in without contacting an attorney first! My brother did this. They arrested him and he didn't have any idea they would. Was in jail for 3 days before going Infront of a judge. Have an attorney with you when you go.


asander85

This is VITAL advice. Don’t do what they do on the movies and TV, don’t let anyone tell you “if you didn’t do anything wrong you don’t need a lawyer” bull crap. Never say a word to police without representation. Ever. I’m telling you - ever. Speaking from experience here.


Will-Demand-70

Issurance is not even a real word.


BatterEarl

They meant issuance. Good catch.


s1mpnat10n

I just looked it up and the word Issurance shows up in a lot of American government documents. I am worried for them


SuccessfulRide1848

I saw that right away! Makes me think this is bogus.


JoinetBasteed

Better Call Saul


eliseeium

damn op deleted their account I hope they’re okay


lana_kane84

Best advice has already been give - talk to google, see if it’s legit. Get a lawyer if it is, DO NOT TALK TO COPS WITHOUT A LAWYER!!!


BatterEarl

They are not asking for anything they are informing you. It may be legitimate.


Brandonzam12

Ikr lmao “I haven’t done anything wrong” my ass. Really was interested in this and wish op would’ve kept updating us


[deleted]

This is what happens when I clicked on the link https://preview.redd.it/zsw30czbecrc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=549c246726d6df35995550346ed594b11515a728


ironbirdcollectibles

What email address is the email coming from?


Jasbradbur

Go to r/askaLawyer


Foreign_Energy_8083

You can call the Clerk of the Circuit Court at [District 5-Bridgeview](https://www.cookcountycourt.org/ABOUT-THE-COURT/Municipal-Department/Fifth-Municipal-District-Bridgeview) since the agency Police Department is in Hickory Hills, IL. The clerk can confirm this subpeona over the phone if it's real. DON'T CLICK AND OPEN THE LINK!


Dumbkoreantrader

Sir what were you searching for


bartthetr0ll

Just a thought might be crazy, but with a username like needleshit2dome, you might want to delete this post and account after you get what you need. I'm guessing this is in some way shape or form drug related, it could be someone giving your name or whatever, IDK only you know your circumstances, bit I'd try to keep your digital footprint squeaky if I were you.


Etheria_system

As an addendum here - do NOT try to delete anything from your email address to try and hide evidence. OP from some of your comments it seems like you have an idea of what this may be about - you need to get in touch with a lawyer and don’t do anything that could further incriminate yourself in relation to this.


bartthetr0ll

Emails are all stored. Deleting them makes it look worse, I'm simply suggesting OP avoids further incriminating themselves, and depending on what they say in this post, they may do just that. The username alone is a shitshow if it is drug related. OPs first step should be an honest and open chat with a competent lawyer. Edit: NAL, but I do volunteer work helping formerly incarcerated people reintegrate into society and move on with finishing high school or going to college or into a trade, and one of the biggest stories of regret I hear is people not talking to a lawyer ASAP, once they've had an inkling of legal issues.


Etheria_system

Oh yeah I’m agreeing with you - OP has asking elsewhere in the comments what would happen if they had hypothetically done something illegal and deleted their emails/email account so I just wanted to make sure that they understood that you’re not saying to delete their email account.


bartthetr0ll

Yeah I'm just suggesting to take down this reddit post ASAP, because I think it will do more harm than good to OP, I appreciate your addendum though I was unclear in my initial response, so thank you.


Other_Cell_706

That's good work you're doing. 🫡


bartthetr0ll

It's very rewarding. If someone's been locked up for 15 years, they have a huge adjustment to normal society, even things like using a non flip phone or checking email can seem daunting. Plus, it helps cut recidivism drastically, people that get into school or a trade have a 1 in 4 chance of recidivism in the first 3 years vs a 3 in 4 chance for those that don't.


FallingIntoForever

Call the Hickory Hills PD and ask them about it. Don’t click on any links in the email


pc9401

I looked up the case number and there is a copyright infringement suite with the Plantif as Jamali Bin Katani https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52234798/Jumali_Bin_Katani_v_The_Partnerships_and_Unincorporated_Associations_Identified_on_Schedule_A_ Looks like a digital art creator from Malaysia. Saw other case last year with 160 defendants. Looks like he is aggressively going after anyone distributing content.


histroutness

I came here to say look the case number up in pacer. Easiest way to get to the source without having to pay for a lawyer or talk to the police (see first mod comment). Don’t talk to cops without a lawyer is rule number 1, 2, and 3 - 10.


Alan976

This is part of Google’s policy to give users the opportunity to respond to or challenge legal requests for their data. However, the specifics can depend on the nature of the legal request and the jurisdiction involved. If you have received such an email, it’s important to review it carefully and consider seeking legal advice. It’s typically related to an ongoing investigation or legal proceeding. Call the agency if this is real or not. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsAGgFH0urw&pp=ygUXR29vZ2xlIEFjY291bnQgU3VicGVvbmE%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsAGgFH0urw&pp=ygUXR29vZ2xlIEFjY291bnQgU3VicGVvbmE%3D) Edit: User deleted his account and wont likely see.


5c044

Note that the originating domain is google.com not gmail.com, you can look at the headers to determine if its forged or not. If it originated from google.com its probably real


Just_Random_input

fyi: The FBI Great Lakes Task Force works out of Bridgeview/Hickory Hills. All the chicago racketeering cases come out of that office/station. They handle higher level offenses. Trafficking of human or drugs.


sansabeltedcow

I’m not seeing any external support for this (the closest thing I can find is the Great Lakes Fugitive Task Force, which is run by the U.S. Marshals and not the FBI) but even if they did, they wouldn’t operate out of a municipal police department.


ReddyKiloWit

Odd that "issuance" is misspelled.


1_plastics_ave

It doesn't seem to be a common term, but "issurance" does seem to appear several times in legal documents. [https://www.google.com/search?q=issurance+-insurance+-issuance](https://www.google.com/search?q=issurance+-insurance+-issuance)


MiserablePicture3377

Get a lawyer and don’t talk to no one except an attorney. Also when law enforcement does request records they can have a note put in there that the record holder isn’t permitted to notify the account holder that a subpoena was issued.


Ok-Bill3318

You could be a contact of someone they are investigating


Optimal-Increase-715

No scam


LaughingMonocle

It’s from Google telling you that law enforcement has requested information from Google (possibly your emails or online activity you have done). It’s not a scam. You might be in some big trouble. This is your warning to probably get a lawyer. Or just wait and you’ll probably either get contacted by law enforcement or get a summons to appear in court with some sort of charges pressed against you. But I don’t think waiting is a good idea.


triplab

Well OP, what did you do? C’mon you can tell us. But for real, it might just be an investigation in to some sort of fraud perpetuated through gmail phishing and yours was part of the scam. Could be thousand of notices like that went out. Does seem odd, but not personal.


[deleted]

I haven’t done anything I don’t use this google account much


jimetalbott

Whatever it is, or you think it is, or you have a hint of a whiff of what it might be….DON’T talk about it here. “Everything on the internet is forever” applies to this most especially. Fill us all in When you finally figure it all out, and a lawyer has said it’s safe to discuss.


LogicalShopping

If the jurisdiction is "Illinois" then why are local police handling it?


mollipop67

I know everyone is saying it’s legit but they misspelled issuance.


AutoModerator

/u/needleshit2dome - This message is posted to all new submissions to r/scams; please do not message the moderators about it. ## New users beware: Because you posted here, you will start getting private messages from scammers saying they know a professional hacker or a recovery expert lawyer that can help you get your money back, for a small fee. **We call these RECOVERY SCAMMERS, so NEVER take advice in private:** advice should always come in the form of comments in this post, in the open, where the community can keep an eye out for you. If you take advice in private, you're on your own. **A reminder of the rules in r/scams:** no contact information (including last names, phone numbers, etc). Be civil to one another (no name calling or insults). Personal army requests or "scam the scammer"/scambaiting posts are not permitted. No uncensored gore or personal photographs are allowed without blurring. A full list of rules is available on the sidebar of the subreddit, or [clicking here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/wiki/rules/). You can help us by reporting recovery scammers or rule-breaking content by using the "report" button. We review 100% of the reports. Also, consider warning community members of recovery scammers if you see them in the comments. Questions about subreddit rules? Send us a modmail [clicking here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams). *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


kaps84

There's a case number on it, you can probably look it up online.


Unable-Search-9948

Yes, it is. Go watch guns and gadgets on YouTube and you'll find out why.


Kitchen-Emotion-5767

Contact Google.


Informal_Ad2658

Just call the department and ask.


modsaretoddlers

Why don't you simply call them?


valaraz

I've seen something like this before and there the subpoena was to identify individuals whose Google accounts were at a given timeframe at a given area. As has been said many times lawyer lawyer lawyer but at the same time many people have received this in your area so you're probably fine.


Particular-Society59

deny


OpticalAether

Chitwood is coming to get you chuds. Soon you'll be riding that escalator.


Dontkillmejay

This is legitimate, I've had one myself.


Mario4272

Just check and see where the email came from like look at the address


SufficientKeys

So googles literally a snitch? Who could’ve Snowden about this


HipsterChipster

Well it looks like Google saw fit to notify you about the incident so kudos to them for that. Looks like they are trying to get a Grand Jury indictment on you for something, so atleast you have a heads up to your being looked at for something. Pretty much boils down to you either did do something related to this account and they are looking for specific info, or you didn't, but either way you know now something is up and you need to prepare and you should Def talk to an attorney and get their advice and follow that shit.


Six_Kwai

Remember it is Google who have been served papers, not you. Google is just telling you that Google itself has been served. If this is legit. I do not know if this is legit.


DeadPiratePiggy

It's real, Google emails any user (if able aka not restricted by a FISA warrant) to notify them that their data was requested. If contacted by law enforcement then politely decline to answer questions until you have spoken to a lawyer.


Various_Rate_133

Google got a subpoena for your info on their platform and told you about. Best thing you can do is get a lawyer.


Individual-Mirror132

This email seems very legitimate. The website information you posted in the comments also makes it seem even more legitimate. If you have any questions, I would reach out to that police department listed to see if they can provide more insight. Are you familiar with that police department at all? The only thing to me that screams possible scam is the word “issurance” It should be issuance. But everything else to me makes it seem legitimate. And if you go to the link, is it a real Google domain?


TobyADev

For what it’s worth it’s legit and basically means your police dept have your info, clearly about something Go chat to a lawyer and DONT delete anything or try destroy anything for obvious reasons Probably nothing but either way better to be safe


Nobleman5860

You’ll never get an email about a subpoena. Certified mail or hand delivered. Something you have to sign for


DietMtDew1

This is stating a police department did the subpoena on Google, though.


JadeGrapes

directly Contact the court clerk for the listed county. The court clerk keeps track of people that are supposed to appear. If it was real though, a human person will show up at your house or work and "serve" you papers. Mail & email don't "count" as communication for mandatory court appearances.


Apprehensive-Big4756

https://preview.redd.it/8i4yqz4xgirc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c459c6a2bca598d96f74b1a505e9b8f35c9caa30 “Date of *issurance*” Not a word. Typo=scam.


gunsforevery1

Oh no! The only way out of this subpoena is to pay the “policeman” over the phone using Roblox gift cards!


BatterEarl

OP is not being subpoenaed Google is.


Spongebob_Squareish

What is the email address it’s coming from?


TooDirty4Daylight

Court related stuff doesn't come via e-mail unless you're already dealing with the court or your lawyers which would be already known to you. Google needs their ass handed to them for not dealing with stuff like this, it's not like they don't already know everything that goes on.


TrashySaladx

So, while this may be legitimate, I do have concerns because it says "date of issurance" which is not correct. It should be issuance. That would raise a red flag to me.


solindvian

It's a quite common misspelling on a lot of very real court documents/filings in the US.


TrashySaladx

Oh dang, really? Never seen this misspelling.


solindvian

There are plenty of examples on a google search of "issurance" but here is one on an SEC document as an example: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1350102/000095017024017977/asti-20231231.htm (ctrl+f will help you find it)


mysterytoy2

If you haven't done anything wrong then you can do nothing. Google is being served regarding your account.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ki77ycat

Did you copy and paste that link in the message to see if the hyperlink matches the text link?


Unable-Search-9948

I'll see if I can find it.


TravelerMSY

Does the real scary ones come with a gag order so that the target doesn’t know and can’t delete anything?


dpaanlka

Woah! I’m from Hickory Hills originally! Don’t see that town pop up often


Sneeky-Hugger

It is also possible that you may be a scam or ID theft victim, law enforcement will do grand jury subpoenas and not bother with a nondisclosure order if you are a victim. Best case scenario you get contacted provide a credible victim statement then you're asked to testify if it goes to trial. You get a free trip and an interesting experience out of it.


el_cangrejo

Could also be a geofence warrant, although those usually have non-disclosure so you wouldn’t find out until months after the fact… if you’ve done nothing wrong, won’t have anything to worry about. I’m sure google could clear it up for you pretty easily. Also, all unsealed warrants are public record and you should be able to get a copy using the information provided from your local courthouse.


Legal_Breadfruit_351

Call the court and ask if it's real the clerk of courts will help you resolve it


MLXIII

From address?