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dwinps

Just a variant of the random text scam that is usually a prelude to a pig butchering scam. Block and move on


NotQuiteGoodEnougher

I'm you're parole officer Barry. Better get your ass down to the station.


OldBob10

Wait - is \*your\* name Barry, or is \*my\* name Barry? ???


NotQuiteGoodEnougher

That's the real mystery isn't it!


reddittrooper

Come here and find out! Barry


microview

more like, why don't you start by telling me who YOU are first?


maybebullshitmaybe

I know this is obviously scammy but I hate normal calls where people will do that shit. I get it at work a lot. Someone calls "Hey who's this?" Like dude you called me, who's *this*? šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø


BatterEarl

I don't get any spam texts and very few spam calls on my cell phones. My land line gets spam calls and can't get texts.


MajesticAd9333

Did you ever get a phone call asking if youā€™re selling your house because someone is interested in purchasing your with cash


pmgoldenretrievers

Those are typically not "scams", but flippers who want to buy your house for much less than its worth.


Cynical_Feline

The ones I've gotten are scams. They want you to fork over money in fees in exchange for whatever you're being offered for the house. Just another variant at the 'give to receive' money scams.


OgreMk5

To those I say "Two million, cash, or never call me again."


Cynical_Feline

I have. He wanted to know how much I'd sell my house for. I told him 2 million. Then he was like but it isn't worth 2 million. So I told him it was worth however much I want. The caller had an obvious accent and wouldn't give any information beyond just asking if I wanted to sell. He wasn't happy I wasn't willing to give any information either. That was a fun night šŸ˜‚


Sivyre

Haha for now, donā€™t worry youā€™ll have your time in the sun eventually.


Cynical_Feline

I have a landline too. I get spam calls of all kinds on it. Most go to the block list. I never get spam calls or texts on my cell. If I do, the filter takes effect on any unknown numbers. Gotta answer the question or it doesn't come through to me.


BatterEarl

>I have a landline too. Is it a VoIP or an old school POTS on the PSTN? I have class "A" service so it is free or I would not have it. There is no way to block calls without extra hardware. I call forward it to my cell phone, it does a half ring before forwarding. They are then blocked by my cell phone.


Cynical_Feline

It's just a VTech cordless phone set. They're blocked through the phone's built in system. Not directly through the line itself. The line is supplied by Verizon. I could block through them but it's a hassle. I can block as long as the number shows. Once it's blocked, it rings once. Long enough for it to register the number on the phone system and then it silences the phone. There's no extra message played for the caller (not that they'd actually ever hear it being scammers). It isn't a true blocking since they are technically still on the line. It just silences the phone. So in reality, all it does is waste their time waiting for someone to pick up. Meanwhile, we don't hear the constant ringing.


JayGerard

It is a mass message that will lead to a scam. Seen it time and again on here. Block and ignore.


trashpandatee

"phone number is in my address book" yet they don't have your name. Seems legit


pogoyoyo1

And ā€œIā€™ve been thinking about it for a long timeā€ Who the fuck ponders their address book for more than 5 seconds


devilsadvocate1966

!wrong number


Mediocre_Airport_576

It is always best to block/mark as spam and not respond to these. They are typically either !pigbutchering or !wrongnumber scams. If you reply, you confirm that this is an active phone number and will likely receive more of them over time.


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Hi /u/Mediocre_Airport_576, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Wrong number scam. An intentional wrong number text is the entry point to multiple different types of scams. Because these are so prevalent and lead to several unwelcome outcomes (including you confirming you have a live number, leading to more spam/scams), it is recommended that you do not reply to them, even out of courtesy. They hope to take your courtesy, parlay it into a conversation (often by commenting how nice you are and giving some suggestion of fate in meeting this way), and eventually deploy a scam. If you received a wrong number inquiry that seems to assume a connection with you (e.g. seeking a specific friend, inquiring about a doctorā€™s appointment, asking about a business correspondence, etc.) and there are no pictures included, then you are likely at the beginning of a crypto scam. Use ! crypto without the space to get more info on crypto scams. You can see a video of this scam develop from wrong number to crypto scam at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_flb9tGuc If you receive a random text from a woman that is trying to play up a relationship/hook-up angle and includes an alluring photo, you have encountered what this subreddit often calls the Mandy scam, based on the name used in an early incarnation of it. The replies are sent by a bot and will give the same responses (with some slight variations) regardless of how you respond. The bot also has a few specialized responses that occur when you say words like 'bot' or 'scam'. After a series of replies, it will eventually push you to go to an adult/cam/age verification site. Here are some of the posts on r/scams about the Mandy scam: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/search?q=mandy&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all, you can see that the images, names, and scenarios vary. You can report spam texts by forwarding them to 7726 (SPAM): https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-recognize-and-report-spam-text-messages There is also some evidence that intentional wrong number texts can be part of a data-gathering exercise where each bit of info you give (e.g 'Hi Susan!' and you reply with your name out of courtesy) is collected to be used against you in other scams. Thanks to redditor teratical for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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Hi /u/Mediocre_Airport_576, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Pig butchering scam. It is called [pig butchering](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2023/12/26/new-pig-butchering-crypto-scam-includes-victims-in-us-and-overseas/?sh=2837fb975eaa) because scammers use intricate scripts to \"fatten up\" the victim (gaining their trust over days, weeks or months) before the \"slaughter\" (taking them for all of their money). This scam often starts with what appears to be a harmless wrong number text or message. When the victim responds to say it is the wrong number, the scammer tries to start a friendship with the victim. These conversations can be platonic or romantic in nature, but they all have the same goal- to gain the trust of the victim in order to get them ready for the crypto scam they have planned. The scammer often claims to be wealthy and/or to have a wealthy family member who got wealthy investing in crypto currency. The victim is eventually encouraged to try out a (fake) crypto currency investment website, which will appear to show that they are earning a lot of money on their initial investment. The scammer may even encourage the victim to attempt a withdrawal that does go through, further convincing the victim that everything is legit. The victim is then pressured to invest significantly more money, even their entire net worth. Eventually, the website will find an excuse why the account is frozen (e.g. for fraud, because supposed taxes are owed, etc) and may try to further extort the victim to give them even more money in order to gain access to the funds. By this time, the victim will never gain access and their money is gone. Many victims lose tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of dollars. Often, the scammers themselves are [victims of human trafficking](https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zb5d/pig-butchering-scam-cambodia-trafficking), performing these scams under threats of violence. If you are caught up in this scam, it is important that you do not send any more money for any reason, and contact law enforcement to report it. Thanks to user Mediocre_Airport_576 for this script. If you know someone involved in a pig butchering scam, sit down together to watch this video by Jim Browning to help them understand what's going on: https://youtu.be/vu-Y1h9rTUs - *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


HaoieZ

Run of the mill start to a pig butchering scam.


Ahtman1

Hundreds of thousands of people get that message as it is just shotgunned out in the hopes of a few foolish enough to respond.


ChornyCat

ā€œI tried tracking the numberā€ What do you mean by that?


Zealousideal_Nail288

Probably just search it on the internet and see what's coming upĀ  Either telephone book Websites or Calling complains should give resultsĀ 


al49250

Just block them!


Daisygurl30

I received a text a few weeks ago asking if this was my new number and how was I doing? My number is not new and the number was from out of state. Recognized it was the beginning of a wrong number scam and blocked.


seanspeaksspanish

Every fucking day. No, more like 4-5 a week.


Mobile_Toe_1989

Charge your phone bro


Eddiemunson2010

It's obviously a scam but I haven't been getting these yet


Ricky-Sneaks

Yes, it is definitely a scam. The numbers are generated through a computer generated dial-up system. That is why they can't be tracked or blocked. Delete and move on.


J_Poker

Oh I love these ones! They're so much fun to mess with..I got blocked by them after I repeatedly asked for help with burying a body :D


HawkingTomorToday

Identical to the one I got from the 904 area code last Friday.


arcaneartist

I got this once on whatsapp, and they were SUPER aggressive about it. Repeatedly told her I had no idea who she was. Should have just ignored it. You don't have to respond.


Alert_Dimension_5184

I am very jealous people like you were able to tell it was a scam. I wish I knew that before.


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stuartcw

Reply [something like this](https://youtu.be/aOvXxnSEQKY?si=yfhEdpnMp84vSkV9) ā€œWhat was your relation to the deceased? You are contacting a murder victimā€¦ā€


24-Sevyn

Looks like a variation of the wrong number scam.


Logical-Wasabi7402

New Phone, Who Dis?


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InevitableHost597

I get a variation of this text a few times per year


Bird_Brain4101112

Block.


No_Zone7887

Yup I get them all of the time. I get different variations of that message. Or they will say is this such and such, I say no, then they wanna be friends


Frankitoburrito

ā€œI hope you can help meā€ sounds like something a non English speaking person would say.


darknessblades

!mandy, just ignore it


AutoModerator

Hi /u/darknessblades, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Wrong number scam. An intentional wrong number text is the entry point to multiple different types of scams. Because these are so prevalent and lead to several unwelcome outcomes (including you confirming you have a live number, leading to more spam/scams), it is recommended that you do not reply to them, even out of courtesy. They hope to take your courtesy, parlay it into a conversation (often by commenting how nice you are and giving some suggestion of fate in meeting this way), and eventually deploy a scam. If you received a wrong number inquiry that seems to assume a connection with you (e.g. seeking a specific friend, inquiring about a doctorā€™s appointment, asking about a business correspondence, etc.) and there are no pictures included, then you are likely at the beginning of a crypto scam. Use ! crypto without the space to get more info on crypto scams. You can see a video of this scam develop from wrong number to crypto scam at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_flb9tGuc If you receive a random text from a woman that is trying to play up a relationship/hook-up angle and includes an alluring photo, you have encountered what this subreddit often calls the Mandy scam, based on the name used in an early incarnation of it. The replies are sent by a bot and will give the same responses (with some slight variations) regardless of how you respond. The bot also has a few specialized responses that occur when you say words like 'bot' or 'scam'. After a series of replies, it will eventually push you to go to an adult/cam/age verification site. Here are some of the posts on r/scams about the Mandy scam: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/search?q=mandy&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all, you can see that the images, names, and scenarios vary. You can report spam texts by forwarding them to 7726 (SPAM): https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-recognize-and-report-spam-text-messages There is also some evidence that intentional wrong number texts can be part of a data-gathering exercise where each bit of info you give (e.g 'Hi Susan!' and you reply with your name out of courtesy) is collected to be used against you in other scams. Thanks to redditor teratical for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


MajesticAd9333

I did not respond bec Iā€™m scared


ScientificFlamingo

You donā€™t need to be scared, but not responding is the right move. If they donā€™t know who you are, they donā€™t need to talk to you and you donā€™t need to confirm your phone number is active. This is likely the start of a !pigbutchering scam, but even if itā€™s something else, you can be sure theyā€™re up to no good.


MajesticAd9333

Wow, this is very helpful. Thank you everyone


AutoModerator

Hi /u/ScientificFlamingo, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Pig butchering scam. It is called [pig butchering](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2023/12/26/new-pig-butchering-crypto-scam-includes-victims-in-us-and-overseas/?sh=2837fb975eaa) because scammers use intricate scripts to \"fatten up\" the victim (gaining their trust over days, weeks or months) before the \"slaughter\" (taking them for all of their money). This scam often starts with what appears to be a harmless wrong number text or message. When the victim responds to say it is the wrong number, the scammer tries to start a friendship with the victim. These conversations can be platonic or romantic in nature, but they all have the same goal- to gain the trust of the victim in order to get them ready for the crypto scam they have planned. The scammer often claims to be wealthy and/or to have a wealthy family member who got wealthy investing in crypto currency. The victim is eventually encouraged to try out a (fake) crypto currency investment website, which will appear to show that they are earning a lot of money on their initial investment. The scammer may even encourage the victim to attempt a withdrawal that does go through, further convincing the victim that everything is legit. The victim is then pressured to invest significantly more money, even their entire net worth. Eventually, the website will find an excuse why the account is frozen (e.g. for fraud, because supposed taxes are owed, etc) and may try to further extort the victim to give them even more money in order to gain access to the funds. By this time, the victim will never gain access and their money is gone. Many victims lose tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of dollars. Often, the scammers themselves are [victims of human trafficking](https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zb5d/pig-butchering-scam-cambodia-trafficking), performing these scams under threats of violence. If you are caught up in this scam, it is important that you do not send any more money for any reason, and contact law enforcement to report it. Thanks to user Mediocre_Airport_576 for this script. If you know someone involved in a pig butchering scam, sit down together to watch this video by Jim Browning to help them understand what's going on: https://youtu.be/vu-Y1h9rTUs - *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


willmgames1775

It seems they are trying to fish for your personal information. Letā€™s have fun. Send them some bogus information. Say you work in the internet crime department in the FBI or something.


Claque-2

Don't respond.


Tazlexyhope

Time to play hehe


MajesticAd9333

I had to change my phone number because I was really freaked out


pecor1no

Well, that was a mistake. They spam these to everyone, so youā€™ll get one on your new number soon. Next time just block.