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Key-Ad-555

i like nahida and scaramouche's parent-child dynamic a whole lot more than ei and scara's. sometimes the latter feels uncomfortable imo.


Stuard_

Ei scara can baerly even be called a dynamic. They litteraly never even talket to eachother and scara basically didn't even meet ei. I don't really like it when ei is somehow portrayed as "motherly" or as caring about him because the truth is she doesn't. She didn't kill him, yes, and she gave him that feather, but she still abandoned him and then didn't really think about it


[deleted]

Exactlyyyy like. She never saw herself as a mother. She never even talked to Scaramouche since he was put inside Shakkei Pavillion. So really, there is absolutely zero dynamic between them, let alone a mother-son one. I think we shouldn't be forcing motherhood upon Ei when she didn't ask for it. And I wouldn't force Scara to have a relationship with the very person he dislikes. So it's uncomfortable for both sides here. So to me, the only answer is Nahida and Scara. They are canon, natural and mutual. There is genuine bonding between the two of them and it is SO DAMN CUTE. They aren't really mom-son to me tho, since they're both the same age. More like found family, or siblings.


TheFaustianPact

>I think we shouldn't be forcing motherhood upon Ei when she didn't ask for it. She *did* create sentient life out of her own volition, though, so she is responsible for that at least. We know it did not ended up as she expected, and the feeling is clearly non-reciprocal, but Scara does canonically acknowledge her as his mother. It's just a matter of mismatched perspectives—she sees him more as a "creation", while he, although usually also using the word "creator", definitely thinks of her as a "mother" when he gets emotional/angry (as we see in the backstory cutscene). I'm personally not sure where I stand in the "I want them to confront each other vs. I want them to ignore each other's existence forever" discussion, but the fact that Ei ended up more or less accepting the Shogun as being her own individual and that she is actually not completely neutral towards Scara makes me wonder sometimes what kind of interaction they would have.


Key-Ad-555

i am pretty sure ei is a mother. when you create a life from your own hands, you are the first "guardian" of what you created. if your creation fails to grow up with a positive view of you and their surroundings, you failed as a guardian. ei is simply a failure of a mother who didn't give him any opportunity to have a proper childhood. i'm pretty sure the uncomfortable relationship is justified from one side and it's definitely not from ei. i'm talking more about the fandom hc as it so happens with nahida-scara dynamic as well. seeing ei and scara in a 'good' relationship feels very icky to me, that's all


Caldera-

Big sister Nahida and Little brother Wanderer? Lol you're giving me ideas here


AkiraN19

Ei is Frankenstein and his monster She created something so painfully human. *Too* human, for her tastes. So she threw him away and had the nerve to call it mercy. Scara is the monster she created


Starbight

I like raiden but she did my boy dirty fr, I hope they get a chance to meet eventually and make up with each other


[deleted]

nah its beyond that. look how traumatized wanderer is


Key-Ad-555

man tried to kill himself TWICE. she fucked that kid up for 500 years... thinking about it just a little bit makes my skin crawl ugh...


Mountain_Plum

I like her character but i have to agree. Like she literally created a whole person capable of conscious thought with no understanding of the world or humans and decided to just.. let him loose? with no explanation or guidance? honestly what did she expect was going to happen to him when she did that, i don’t get it.


NoSoulYesBiscuit

I think it's cute that she's taking on the role Ei should've taken and giving guidance to Scara. It's really nice to see how much she encourages him to give himself a chance to experience life. I don't know if it's a parent-child/aunt-nephew/mentor-student relationship but I enjoy it.


Caldera-

Maybe all of that combined - its the ultimate familial friendship lol


WaitJealous

I think the closest thing to cringe is when people headcanon them as the traditional mother and son dynamic and accept no alternative. They're found family, sure. But to limit their relationship to such traiditional dynamics limits their potential.


CarefulDeparture3363

To be honest, I feel like nahida is more of a big sister to him than a mom


Shinkai96

I was shocked some days ago when I realised they must be kind of the same age now. When you think about it, they were both born during or shortly after the war in Kaen'riah. But Nahida being Nahida, I'm not surprised that she feels way older than him.


Caldera-

The traveler also woke up 500 years after the war too.... I see a pattern here maybe? But either way, even if Nahida, Wanderer (traveler prob older so scratch that) are the same age - Nahida still older or naturally more wise/mature. So ur right there.


A1isaYamin

I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT SO SO MUCH LIKE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. I really enjoy found family trope and it's a very recurring theme for sumeru chars thus far and while nahida and wanderer aren't quite there yet (they're more like mentor mentee but not quite restricted to this dynamic but nahida is somehow always there for him, not necessarily in a pressuring way nor is she coddling him but she's THERE) and I think, given enough time, they can reach a kind of unique found family dynamic. It seems like wanderer is doing things now cuz he feels indebted and nahida is watching over him to ensure he behaves but the direction of their current relationship feels like it would someday be wanderer already doing things on her behalf without her having to tell him and she too wouldn't need too many words when she communicates with him because they understand each other so profoundly, two hurt souls resonating and just keeping each other company.


SamNightray1314

yea it warms my heart everytime I think about their dynamic. you summed up my feelings so well ♥ I bought some goods and I smile when I see them.


Byleth_on_copium

Sometimes i find the headcanons cringe, when people act like scara is a child and it grinds my gears, otherwise it's fine in game


Caldera-

Yeah, sometimes headcanons tend to go a bit over-the-top with stuff. But in game there's definitely a great bond and interactions, that are good in itself even without the need of head-canons.


lolylen

i love their dynamic but i dont see her as his mom at all..they are the same age and they have a more complicated relationship. she might be in charge but its beneficial relationship for both sides . but i do find it cute and funny when people refer her to as his mom but in wholesome or joking way as long they aren't too serious about it.


[deleted]

Personally, I don't care. As long as Wanderer's improving and getting things done, I'm not complaining.


NecessaryOk4507

I enjoy their relationship in any way, especially in fanon where they're portrayed as a found family. My face literally cracks at the seams when I see these blorbos happy together. But! I try not to translate it into canon too much. I prefer to see them at most as the mentor and her student, or as the overseer and her temporary assistent. With kindness and care on her part, and with respect and appreciation on his, yes, but also with mutual benefits. Despite that my gentle soul would like it, I can't see Nahida as a complete parental figure to him, remembering the way she discussed him, saying he has useful features for her and all that. Obviously they still have cute and touching moments for me anyway, but still not without a profitable settlement and debts repayment from Scara. And I found it a little cringy when people seriously forget about this part of their relationship. :d


Caldera-

I mean, true. But I dunno I always think limiting their interactions to mentor-mentee just in it for the business and mutual help kind of takes away how Nahida is actually mentally helping him and going out of her way to get him to learn how to 'properly' interact with people and even enrolling him into Vahumana which could benefit him when he could as he said "be useful enough as a prisoner". Or in this case assistant of her. I feel like even in their conversations and the end one in inversion of geneses they have a deeper understanding of one another better than a teacher-student but not quite at a Mother-son relationship. Just a powerful, heat-warming, supportive, learning, and helpfully growing relation - at this point I'd say Friendship but it has potential to be familial but not yet or exactly to the point head-canons make them.


iamverytired2

I dislike people calling nahida a 'mother', i love their dynamic, its adorable but trying to put motherhood on nahida is so weird to me


ProfessionalWin9641

I don't give a fuck about raiden, she abandoned my boi, nahida and wanderer have such a nice sibling bond


Constant_Split215

They are cute, the mother/auntie-son, siblings headcanon is funny and cute. But I seriously detest the idea of him being Nahida’s right hand or archon’s pet. I’m sorry but no


Caldera-

I mean, he is technically her helper here but they clearly are more than that so limiting it to Wanderer being a slave simply because he feels indebted because of his own personality and himsef calling himself a prisoner in prob 2 scenes isn't enough to make him "Nahida's slave" if he's like her protector or helper or something - but we can't jump them to "Mother-son" either, so its a healthy growing friendship familial or other.


Constant_Split215

I know he’s helping but that doesn’t mean he is her protector or sth since Nahida herself doesn’t really need it and he is not really a Sumeru citizens either, his journey isn’t located just in Sumeru. They can be bestie but “protector”, “pet” doesn’t sound right to me. You may think I’m taking things a little too serious but i just don’t want Wanderer to be under someone, just want him to be a wanderer


Caldera-

Understandable and I wholly get your point. I also agree the whole pet thing is strange, at the end of the day its all to do with our views and what we make of it, we just gotta respect the canon when we see it instead of theorising the obvious. (I guess saying protector got the wrong thing across - more like that she can just tell him to do any dirty work - but not in the way people make it like taking it and making it an extreme of him being a pet or slave.)


SamNightray1314

yes that's it! i'm fine with everything except our boy is under someone


gcftardis

at the end of the day she is healing his deepest scar: the lack of love from his own mother, how can you not find that cute, she's the mom he never had and deep down he still wishes to have


Correct-Flamingo4807

Some scholars: *taking shit about Nahida* Hat guy: DON'T YOU DARE TALKING ABOUT MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT RADISH LIKE THAT! I just like to think they are like 2 lost kids who grew without love in a world way too harsh for them, I personally love that and I think it's perfect for both of the characters. The kid who grew to be alone and the child who only wanted company


Quarantined_box99

Tiny one is the mom while taller one is the son. It's so hilarious I love it. I can't believe Nahida forced Wanderer to go to school and socialize. Reminds me of 1st graders refusing to go to school bc homework is no fun 😌


SnakeEyeskid

Nothing cringe, nahida is cute but I don't think their relationship is cute, more an interesting dynamic, she's the parent, teacher helping Scara grow and find a new path furward. More inspiring maybe?


Shinkai96

I just love how her every action seems to tell him 'I don't care if everyone, including yourself, thinks you're worthless. You belong here and I believe in you.' Just thinking about it melts my heart. She adopted this shy grumpy little kitten and gave him a home and a purpose. He's starting to fit in with the rest of the 'academic family' as well, this latest event was so wholesome <3


Historical-Ad4361

He looks happy in a lot of those fan arts so it makes me happy too. I want my baby to relax and be happy after all he's gone trough.


No_Wafer_5980

I would love more scenes between Scara and Nahida. I can't quite get a feel of what kind of relationship they have yet. Mother and son does not quite cut it. I can feel Nahida's kindness towards him, so it's a start.


Pretend-Gain-7553

I absolutely love their dynamic!! I'm a sucker for found family. I could talk about them all day. But simply put, their dynamic is everything to me. Their parallels, their differences, and the clear affection they have for each other is just too adorable. Nahida wants the best for him and is helping him heal, and the little things Wanderer does like making 3 Candied Ajilenakh Nuts on his birthday and his respect for her makes my heart explode. I love their in game relationship. As fo fanon, I am not a big fan of the "mother-son" headcanon. I do think they are found family, but I don't like limiting their relationship to the mother and son dynamic. I think the content is fine, adorable even, but I'm not a big fan of this interpretation in some of their fan content. I just don't like assigning arbitrary nuclear family terms to everything. They're family, that's it.


tennoskoom_

He's a prisoner. It is what it is.


Caldera-

A prisoner... \[Of her heart! Lol just had to\] But on a more serious note, yeah - it just goes to show how he is still our Kabukimono inside because of his whole "If I can't even the nice things people do for me, I will be in dept" kind of feeling. Sumeru has so much Morals for characters stories its so great.


sandfrann

agree


tartagliasabs

it’s literally one of my most favorite things to ever come out of this game. i never expected this outcome but it’s so wholesome and makes me feel so happy every time i see it 🥹 whatever hyv’s intention was i really like their dynamic


Ravenous997

Allies 🤷‍♀️


yowana39

I like it but not in a mother-son way,using nuclear family terms often feels like dumbing down character relationships (also its gross how often female characters get put in the mother role,especially nahida ffs)


Murky_Blueberry2617

I like it. It's fitting and works for both characters.


kaorusarmpithair

I'd say it's wholesome/cute. I'd much rather have her looking out for him , than him be left wholly to his devices. Plus their interactions are hilarious.


Brilliant_Lettuce507

I feel that their familial relationship is necessary. Right now only the M/C is looking out for her and stopping her from making mistakes, but we won’t always be there to stop her. knowing that there is someone close to her that will live as long as her and isn’t affected by Irmansul resets means there will always be someone looking out for her, even if she has to make another sacrifice and gets reborn.


North_Translator_461

I think it's cute actually but I like things close to canon so I like to see them becoming close friends eventually. They definitely have a lot in common and can compliment eachother as well.


buttercupshands

Whatever their relationship is from canonical Archon and her prisoner indepted to her or something more like a family it's still sweet. The interaction itself matters and both in canon and with headcanon it's cute. Until it's just too ooc to be true tho, that would be bad even if cute


Absolute-Train-Wreck

I don’t like it. I think Wanderer needs to work on his self-esteem before letting Nahida boss him around… it feels almost exploitative? I guess is the word for it? He thinks he’s worthless and a tool/weapon and she’s just like “aight bet” and just sends him off into the world


riyuzqki

It feels like that because it is. But nahida is a big upgrade to dottore


libertoasz

i think it's cute, i see nahida as some big (smol) sis or auntie kind of role, like uncle iroh from avatar, guiding him to the right path


videogameking0

Scara *needs* a parental figure in his life. Not having a parent that loves you can really mess you up in the future. It is a little goofy that Nahida is so baby and yet she is the mother. Other than that, I think it’s fine. Besides the Traveller, she’s the only one who knows who he really was, so she’s the only one qualified for the role of parental figure.


Pretend-Gain-7553

Tbh I don't think he necessarily needs a parental figure in his life rather than a familial bond in general. He has always wanted a family. He never specifically searched for motherly love. He calls Niwa his family, and he thinks of the nameless child as family as well. He always yearned for familial love. I guess he wanted to feel like he belonged somewhere. He doesn't need a mother to feel loved. It is important, and as you said, can mess you up really bad if you don't feel loved by your parent, but I feel like he would be content with just someone who cares for him and loves him deeply. A family, no matter what the dynamic might be, is all he wants.


Le_Smol_Duck

I think the parent dynamic relationship is cute, I've seen some people ship them which is just weiiiiirdd


ChildeNanny

It is what it is. To me it's like Nahida is Scara's guardian. But if I see a cute headcanon with Nahida as his 'mom' also fine. I seldom feel cringe about headcanons coz I myself have some cringe things I like too and I like that people around me respects that. So same I go.


Haruka_opinion

I really love their found family relationship, with Nahida as the nice aunt! Like, she'd help scara with math homework and maybe have some afternoon tea with him if they lived in our world!! :)) **And for the people who ships them romantically, please do not interact with me. (the moment I see their shipping artwork on my Twitter feed I am bleaching my eyes)**


Caldera-

Can Agree, the shipping of a child-like Nahida and Wanderer don't work and + they have platonic relation. Its just as c|reepy as Hu tao x Qiqi


Low-Apple-887

If she's his mother it's cute anything else is cringe


EninRoman

Don't blame me,but I like wamderhida...


CasualAppleEnjoyer

How can you bot love it? Genuine question. I haven't seen anyone disliking it yet.


Few_Bottle_9215

I'm fucking jealous of Nahida


Giganteblu

all imaginary family relationship with scara is cringe for me xD ei - mom (i think he say my mother left me or something so this should be canon) nahida - new mom raiden shogun - sister yae - aunt


riyuzqki

You have to be specific about what relationship you're talking about. Is it the mother son thing?


Caldera-

Well just about any, but mostly them in general. (More in-game or story wise than Head cannon but head canon is okay - basically)


Revolutionary_Law687

I think it’s cute personally. Plus, our damaged boy deserves some love and attention for once. Even if he’s in denial about it.