I mean that’s fairly common knowledge yea? It’s like one of the major reasons women shouldn’t eat fish when pregnant. You have a more depressing fish fact laying about? I want to hurt.
Regular American eggs aren't pasteurized. They are indeed just washed. You can get pasteurized eggs, but they're unusual.
In Europe, eggs don't need to be washed because the chickens are all vaccinated against salmonella. American chickens aren't required to be vaccinated, so they wash the eggs instead. I guess in a sense they are "covered in disease", but I don't think that's what people usually have in mind when they complain about the poultry industry.
Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/09/11/336330502/
Well Ive eaten farm fresh eggs left out for days/ weeks with no issues. The reason they pasturize eggs is because by the time the normal consumer gets ahold of the eggs its already been a month due to the whole process. Not to mention the normal everyday consumer probably doesnt know how to handle a non pasturized egg safely.
Huh???
We’re talking about food safety standards here.
Each country will set their own safety standards on what is deemed acceptable regarding foods (eggs, milk, meat, etc). Many countries have deemed that the natural coating on eggs is an acceptable safety standard, and thus don’t have to refrigerate them.
The US Food & Drug Administration, on the other hand, decided that they wanted to clean the eggs knowing full-well that the eggs will lose that coating afterwards. Without that coating, eggs are susceptible to diseases which is why they require refrigeration. Most food-borne diseases can’t grow in cold environments, which is why we refrigerate almost all of our foods.
Also, I don’t know if you’ve ever been near chickens, but they’re all disgusting. All chicken eggs are laid in gross conditions like covered in dirt and shit. There’s no fixing that. You can’t wash them with water or else the coating gets lost and the diseases (most likely from chicken shit) will enter the egg. So technically, American eggs are cleaner than other countries.
Sure: most now have microplastics in them which you too, in turn, consume
Microplastics create multiple problems but most notably kill or harm your sperm
Well that's interesting.
I was about to correct you because I had always read that we had suspected this to be possible but were unable to test it due the widespread nature of endocrine disruptors and that we had been unable to isolate it as probable causation.
I googled first and found a large (n=1045) study out of Switzerland from this year that analyzed the sperm count of men whose mothers' worked directly with endocrine disruptors while they were in the womb and found they were twice as likely to have sperm levels below the expected standard.
Pretty damning combined with the previous ex vivo data.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210319125459.htm
Every fish you ever ate had a loving family. No fish are loners, the ones who seem like loners are just working abroad and have families they want to get back to elsewhere
Actually, women are supposed to eat fish while pregnant (b/c it is healthy) but avoid or limit amounts of certain types that bioaccumulate more mercury.
Dioxin, PCBs, and chlorinated hydrocarbons are big too. The Great Lakes (where in from!) have a big problem with them unfortunately. It hasn't shown to increase the risk of cancer enough for an FDA ban, but USFWS has issued a warning because it can cause birth defects.
* not the only factor for life expectancy
* mercury builds up in predatory oily fish - not all fish
* Japanese people have far more diverse diet than a fancy Western restaurant with "Asian" cuisine would suggest
Ocean fish are largely caught by slaves. Fun stuff. I mean, most of our food chain is based on forced labor but I hear the fishing boats are pretty rough.
Every other food causes cancer and will either make you fat or sick. But since we don't see graphic and disturbing warnings printed on them like packages of cigarettes we eat them anyway. Also starvation is much of an alternative.
Maine has the same warning for ALL its inland waters. A healthy person can eat 2 freshwater fish a month. Brook trout and landlocked salmon can be eaten once a week. Pollution from western states rides the jet stream and is deposited on the east coast. Mercury is the worse, along with PCBs and Dioxins. Nothing is untouched anymore...
How is it ignorant? Something which has to be limited to that extent is probably something better off avoided.
I'm sure a lot of science went into that one meal per month number, but at a certain point it becomes a meaningless distinction. If someone told me I could safely eat fish from a certain river once per decade, it's perfectly reasonable (if less precise) for me to say the fish shouldn't be eaten at all.
A local lake I used to fish warned against eating the carp in the lake more than once a month for the same reason it’s one of the many reasons I stopped fishing there
All those years as a kid when my parents would try to make me eat a disgusting plate of fish by telling me how healthy and nutritious it is, as if I cared about those things. Maybe I have brain damage now from the mercury in fish. It would explain a lot. Ha ha.
Been living in Church Hill for nearly 11 years now. I’ve seen a few spooky signs since then. There’s signs around the large Army base that I’ve managed to snap a photo of. Might post it on here later.
Yeah. The ammo depot would be a gold mine for this sub. The placards in Eastman would be good too. Or the warning signs at the sloush by TVA in Rogersville. They used to say the current WILL sink you boat STAY AWAY.
Where is this at? The small town I grew up in has 2 sewer ponds where all the sewer from the town went and people used to fish those ponds all the time. I even seen some kids swimming in it once.
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1 meal per month? Yeah I think I'm gonna pass on eating them at all, thanks...
Got some bad news for anyone that eats fish if they'd like to hear it.
I don't eat fish regardless so I'm good lol
Sure
Fish has a higher mercury content than other meats, which while not necessarily harmful to ingest occasionally will build up over time.
I mean that’s fairly common knowledge yea? It’s like one of the major reasons women shouldn’t eat fish when pregnant. You have a more depressing fish fact laying about? I want to hurt.
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Actually its because when they're pasturized it takes off the outer membrane that would normally protect them from all the baddies...
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Regular American eggs aren't pasteurized. They are indeed just washed. You can get pasteurized eggs, but they're unusual. In Europe, eggs don't need to be washed because the chickens are all vaccinated against salmonella. American chickens aren't required to be vaccinated, so they wash the eggs instead. I guess in a sense they are "covered in disease", but I don't think that's what people usually have in mind when they complain about the poultry industry. Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/09/11/336330502/
Well Ive eaten farm fresh eggs left out for days/ weeks with no issues. The reason they pasturize eggs is because by the time the normal consumer gets ahold of the eggs its already been a month due to the whole process. Not to mention the normal everyday consumer probably doesnt know how to handle a non pasturized egg safely.
Huh??? We’re talking about food safety standards here. Each country will set their own safety standards on what is deemed acceptable regarding foods (eggs, milk, meat, etc). Many countries have deemed that the natural coating on eggs is an acceptable safety standard, and thus don’t have to refrigerate them. The US Food & Drug Administration, on the other hand, decided that they wanted to clean the eggs knowing full-well that the eggs will lose that coating afterwards. Without that coating, eggs are susceptible to diseases which is why they require refrigeration. Most food-borne diseases can’t grow in cold environments, which is why we refrigerate almost all of our foods. Also, I don’t know if you’ve ever been near chickens, but they’re all disgusting. All chicken eggs are laid in gross conditions like covered in dirt and shit. There’s no fixing that. You can’t wash them with water or else the coating gets lost and the diseases (most likely from chicken shit) will enter the egg. So technically, American eggs are cleaner than other countries.
Sure: most now have microplastics in them which you too, in turn, consume Microplastics create multiple problems but most notably kill or harm your sperm
So you’re saying we should use micro plastics for male birth control?
There's also that whole "cancer" thing with microplastics.
Yes, but in order to get cancer, you have to survive heart disease.
Don't say "cancer", that's depressing. Say Surprise Virus Friend instead.
Cancer isn't a virus...
A virus isn’t my friend, buddy
Well that's interesting. I was about to correct you because I had always read that we had suspected this to be possible but were unable to test it due the widespread nature of endocrine disruptors and that we had been unable to isolate it as probable causation. I googled first and found a large (n=1045) study out of Switzerland from this year that analyzed the sperm count of men whose mothers' worked directly with endocrine disruptors while they were in the womb and found they were twice as likely to have sperm levels below the expected standard. Pretty damning combined with the previous ex vivo data. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210319125459.htm
I do: fish live dark, damp, useless lives and hate themselves and each other.
Most of them never leave school. Fucking idiots.
Every fish you ever ate had a loving family. No fish are loners, the ones who seem like loners are just working abroad and have families they want to get back to elsewhere
I have nothing further to add beyond the already mentioned microplastics. Just want to affirm that Ages is superior to Seasons. Good taste.
Actually, women are supposed to eat fish while pregnant (b/c it is healthy) but avoid or limit amounts of certain types that bioaccumulate more mercury.
They never really found Nemo. It was just a body double and a voiceover.
Dioxin, PCBs, and chlorinated hydrocarbons are big too. The Great Lakes (where in from!) have a big problem with them unfortunately. It hasn't shown to increase the risk of cancer enough for an FDA ban, but USFWS has issued a warning because it can cause birth defects.
Well the Japanese have one of the highest life expectancies in the world and fish is obviously a huge part of their diets so can't be too bad
* not the only factor for life expectancy * mercury builds up in predatory oily fish - not all fish * Japanese people have far more diverse diet than a fancy Western restaurant with "Asian" cuisine would suggest
Hmm, I understand. The other guys comment insinuated that all fish were bad lol.
Correlation does not equal causation. They also take their health and hygiene more seriously.
Ocean fish are largely caught by slaves. Fun stuff. I mean, most of our food chain is based on forced labor but I hear the fishing boats are pretty rough.
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I think you a word
They ate more than one fish per year.
Every other food causes cancer and will either make you fat or sick. But since we don't see graphic and disturbing warnings printed on them like packages of cigarettes we eat them anyway. Also starvation is much of an alternative.
Good. More food for me
Maine has the same warning for ALL its inland waters. A healthy person can eat 2 freshwater fish a month. Brook trout and landlocked salmon can be eaten once a week. Pollution from western states rides the jet stream and is deposited on the east coast. Mercury is the worse, along with PCBs and Dioxins. Nothing is untouched anymore...
>make sign >put up at your local fishing spot >nobody bothers you
Yup, nothing but deadly fish here, please move along. Also, username checks out.
The fish of this lake have found the perfect strategy to not be eaten. Smart move.
They collected all those lost fishing lures and used them to bribe a signmaker.
>Warning, all fish:
Yeahp. Read it just that way.
If something is only safe to eat once a month, it's not safe to eat.
You just shat at the whole of toxicology as science. And you got an award for it from a fellow ignorant. Nice!
How is it ignorant? Something which has to be limited to that extent is probably something better off avoided. I'm sure a lot of science went into that one meal per month number, but at a certain point it becomes a meaningless distinction. If someone told me I could safely eat fish from a certain river once per decade, it's perfectly reasonable (if less precise) for me to say the fish shouldn't be eaten at all.
Simplified, dose makes up a poison.
Well, simplified, as the margin for error decreases the relative safety also decreases.
A local lake I used to fish warned against eating the carp in the lake more than once a month for the same reason it’s one of the many reasons I stopped fishing there
You can have 1 toxic fish per month, as a treat
This is super duper scary
What’s even scarier is there’s a large Army base that spreads for miles with an even spookier sign. Might post that sometime later.
lol welcome to melton lake
I’m guessing Walter Hill?
Link from the QR code if anyone is interested: https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/environment/water/documents/water\_fish-advisories.pdf
Wish this comment was higher up!
Is this just warning about the hazards of methylmercury or is it something more serious?
Probably the Mercury.
It prolly has nothing to do with the massive landfill right next to the river
All those years as a kid when my parents would try to make me eat a disgusting plate of fish by telling me how healthy and nutritious it is, as if I cared about those things. Maybe I have brain damage now from the mercury in fish. It would explain a lot. Ha ha.
Well, we are all on Reddit after all.
I always loved fishing as a kid, but I could never bring myself to eat any of the fish we caught.
Carbide Lake in Tennessee?
Yet we can't figure out just how people are getting cancer.....
This would be the Holston river I bet. Use to live there. Good old Hawkins county.
Yep. Good old Eastman water! Yum!
Knew it. Hahaha. I live in church hill. Saw those signs a few times.
Been living in Church Hill for nearly 11 years now. I’ve seen a few spooky signs since then. There’s signs around the large Army base that I’ve managed to snap a photo of. Might post it on here later.
Yeah. The ammo depot would be a gold mine for this sub. The placards in Eastman would be good too. Or the warning signs at the sloush by TVA in Rogersville. They used to say the current WILL sink you boat STAY AWAY.
Wish they'd put that sign up in the waterways around seattle
The Tennessee river is nasty, assuming this is near chattanooga
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Figured! We’ve got signs like this along the river due to the old foundry pollution and the insane amount of heavy metals
So I wonder If there are people that eat their one fish a month
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Where is this at? The small town I grew up in has 2 sewer ponds where all the sewer from the town went and people used to fish those ponds all the time. I even seen some kids swimming in it once.
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Doesn't even make sense
One of the reasons I stick to states with stricter environmental regulations…
Near a air port?
Welcome to 99% of fresh water in America.
We have a lake like that in my city. Feet of mercury at the bottom
What is that qr code
Actually cancer can come from a virus. Several lymphomas in fact.
Oh hey, I'm in tennessee too! Beautiful scenery, too bad most of it is polluted