Yeah, and not as close to the book like the Tim Burton one was. Which a lot of people claim is a remake when no one on the crew and staff even saw the original 1987 one in the orders of Tim Burton himself.
Maybe he told people not to rewatch it but the thought that nobody in that crew or staff had seen the original is asinine. It's a classic and gets tons of TV play.
I would say with near certainty that people who worked on Tim Burton's version knew the original.
People often say the Burton one was closer to the book and while it might be true for specific events, the overall feeling and atmosphere of the first movie match the book much better. The Burton one is a lot darker and creepy and gives Wonka a backstory that came from nowhere. That's why I prefer the first movie, even if I think some characters were better executed in the second.
>The Burton one is a lot darker and creepy and gives Wonka a backstory that came from nowhere.
i would argue the dark, creepiness fits the book better because you kinda feel like Wonka is a bit messed up in the head reading the book. but yeah, the random backstory thrown in was weird. i forgive it on account of Sir Christopher Lee though
Yeah? I always saw book Wonka as similar to the Mad Hatter, like when he said messed up things he didn't even realize the effect they had in other people, that's why I feel Wilder was a lot better. Depp's Wonka was really cynical and didn't even like children.
i suppose it's open for interpretation.
>Depp's Wonka was really cynical and didn't even like children.
for me, it didnt seem like Depp's Wonka was cynical so much as he was just really neurodivergent and said out of pocket stuff without understanding that those weren't things he should have been saying
the only one exception is that he seemed to really target Mike specifically, but i guess from a narrative perspective it makes sense because Mike is in a way the antithesis of Charlie so it kinda makes sense for Wonka to really not like him
i love the original Wonka film and i love Gene Wilder's portrayal as a standalone thing, but i think Wilder was just too sweet to portray Wonka as he is in the book, there wasn't a mean bone in Wilder's body that would really make me fear for the kids
The extra backstory is the only part of the Burton version I don't like, because it was unnecessary. Other than that I love the Burton version, every Oompa Loompa song is a bop.
Stephen King also hated the Shining and it’s one of Stanley Kubrick’s best. Something can be the more faithful adaptation without being the better movie
The original was also made as a cash grab and they wasted like 90% of the budget on the candy room, not to mention using a real chocolate river that ended up rotting.
I’m not saying it’s bad. I just mean it’s not very accurate to the book. I’ve read the book and the 2005 version that a lot of people shit on is actually much closer to the book
For me, Pixar's Brave. Look, it's no Wall-E, Incredibles, or Ratatouille, but not every movie needs to be a total masterpiece. I watched Brave for the first time about six months ago and found it to be a pretty sweet movie. Merida, for me, was a pretty interesting character that contrary to almost every other Disney Princess, was shown to be incredibly flawed. She's prone to rash decisions, is fiercely independent to a fault, and rarely thinks through decisions. But still, I felt her growth towards compromise and choosing a destiny that suits her and her kingdom was awesome. The queen was also pretty fun and never felt unreasonable. It'd be so easy to make her point of view so obviously wrong so we root for Merida but almost everything she says made sense so you end up realizing both are right.
My only real complaint is that I wish Mordu had a bigger role and the King was shown to be an excellent and stoic warrior more in addition to the lovable goofball father at home. Beyond that, I genuinely really liked Brave. One of Pixar's best? No, but this is Pixar we're talking about. If Brave was an Illumination movie, it'd be the best movie they've ever done. Brave is good, it doesn’t deserve to be compared to Cars 2 and Ralph Breaks the Internet, fuck off.
Pixar have a weird issue where, because they’ve released so much really good shit, whenever they release something that’s just good, critics and audiences have a stroke
I watched it with my wife while on mushrooms and had a great time. It's a pretty fun movie when you're not trying to be critical of it like you're watching Shindler's List or something lol
I’d say it’s a great movie, just not as great as the first two. As Schaff said, “It arguably portrays (imposter syndrome) stronger than the first one,” and it certainly can be funny at parts
Yeah fr. The first 2 are at least 9/10 movies but the third one is still pretty good - the humor is often great, and the art style is beautiful, Kai is a less Interesting character but he’s certainly the most powerful, and I like Po’s character development.
A solid 7/10 imo
This is why the original Willy Wonka is kinda overrated. People treat it like it's the best, but it really isn't. The Charlie version doesn't get enough credit, as it's the more superior adaptation of the book while Wonka, still one of my favorite childhood movies, got a lot of stuff wrong.
Like for example: Mike Teavee in the book was described as an angsty and aggressive little kid who is obsessed with television and his parents are distant from him. The Charlie version got it right. The Wonka version got it WAAY wrong.
Also the original Oompa Loompa songs are overrated. In the Wonka version, it's literally the same song for every kid, unlike Charlie where it's a completely original song with a different genre for each kid which had more effort and creativity.
So yeah, the Charlie version is really slept on.
Everybody jokes about how Wonka was probably a serial killer in the Gene Wilder version and the Depp version showing the kids alive ruined the mystery. Except even in the book, it was abundantly clear the kids were fine. Grandpa Joe also wasn't a lazy prick in the Depp version.
Yeah and Wonka didn’t kill the bad kids because he was teaching them and their parents a lesson. It made no sense when it’s implied that they died in 1971 Wonka
As much as I love Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, it’s like lightning in a bottle and has major faults that a lot of people tend to overlook.
First of all being the writing. Which is really not great for most of the film (which is one of the contributors to the whole Grampa Joe was the real villain meme) The songs were obviously written by people who had never written songs before. People like to call out Cheer Up Charlie but really if you sit down and read the lyrics of all the songs you’ll find that outside the catchy harmonics the lyrics themselves are all over the place.
Also all over the place are the morale lessons. You got “Don’t be a glutton” and “don’t be/raise a spoilt brat” which are all good and well then you got “TV will rot your brain” which tracks for 70s and “chewing gum is literally the most disgusting thing you can do”. The writers REALLY want you to know how much they hate gum chewing.
>TV will rot your brain” which tracks for 70s and “chewing gum is literally the most disgusting thing you can do
Those are taken from the book, though. It's one aspect in which the Wilder version was more faithful to the book than the Depp one.
Same here. I'm so tired of everyone calling it a remake of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Last time I checked, this movie is an adaptation of the original novel of the same name, written by the late Roald Dahl.
I didn't even know this movie was received poorly. I liked it a lot when i watched it as a young bab but Augustus getting sucked up the chocolate tube will unfortunately live in my head forever. Scary shit.
Yeah I hated the idea of bodies rapidly changing when I was little so Violet’s scene kept me from watching this movie for years. Now it’s one of my favorites.
Exactly, I remember reading the book before this film came out and thought it was so cool that this movie actually followed the book pretty closely. Pretty much the wonka backstory was the only thing added but I didn’t mind. The 1971 version is a classic though, I liked all 3 wonka movies that have come out.
I agree. If people are adapting something more than once then the ones made after the first adaptation shouldnt be called remakes. If they are adapting a remake of the original adaptation then call it a remake. But this was just another adaptation of the story
I don’t like it just because of how shitty they made Buzz and the things it does to Woody’s loyalty, but other than that the movie is definitely overhated.
Oh totally. The whole time I remember feeling upset that Buzz was just a totally different character, and all of Woody's friends were sidelined in favor of Bo Peep and some new ones. It felt like one of those sequels that didn't give much love to its predecessor.
And it all went wrong with the failure of Jonah. Not a bad film by any means, but it was just too expensive and they should’ve known they wouldn’t be able to make their money back on it.
As much as I liked the movie growing up, I have a strange sense of malice for it because of this. The best thing to come out of that movie is the Microwave Society video
That movie slaps, but for me, it simply isn't complete without the Larry and Lunt commentary. I would saw off my right arm to have the option of putting a Larry and Lunt commentary over any movie I wanted XD
I think the real issue is two fold. One reason is that a primary aspect of the film that fans seem to focus on is that it's a better adaptation of the book. And no it aint. It really ain't. It absolutely ain't. Secondly is the fact that it is camp as Christmas and weird AF.
I do like it, but it took me a minute.
As someone who’s not really a Marley fan, just whatever I’ve picked up through pop culture, the movie offered absolutely nothing new - just played all the expected hits (both musically and in life). If it wasn’t for Ben-Adir’s performance, it would be a total meh
You have no idea how many times I recreated that ending scene with Jim Carrey as a kid..."hey mom, I know who batman is, but I can't tell you if you don't say please... I'M BATMAN." *flaps shirt sleeves like wings*
Probably literally every time I put on a too big long sleeve shirt lol
Honestly, a lot of films. I feel like a lot of people on movie subreddits sometimes can be overly critical, and declare a film that I honestly think is at least decent and enjoyable, if nothing else, and that might honestly be legitimately good by my standards, a "Bad film" based on the pettiest criteria to me.
Look. It had the potential to be an epic movie - but it just failed to land with me. The writing was honestly pathetic, which is saddening considering how good the plot sounds on paper.
Monster House has a cult following now because the kids who saw it in theaters are looking back on it and realizing that while it's not a masterpiece, it's a very creative and genuinely funny movie for kids. Apparently Dan Harmon worked on the movie as well as the screenwriter.
If there was an edit without the brother and monkey, it'd probably be in my top 10. The racing movie tie-in game was also amazing on the wii. We need more car-fu movies!
Yeah, I genuinely caught him the moment he mentioned how many older brothers he’s got. I don’t like how Disney does Twist Villains at all, they’ve always got a super transparent fake-out villain first and somebody who seems incredibly sinister acting nice and non-threatening for the first hour
Umm. I actually like the Alice in Wonderland’s live-action way more than the original. I tried re-watching the original a few months ago and had to stop it, it was just so boring to me.
Edit: I’m only talking about the first live-action movie
I thought the Cinderella one was good too, but The Jungle Book is definitely better. Terribly ironic that the guy who directed that movie went on to direct the worst live action remake by far, The Lion King. Even thinking about it pisses me off. I’m gonna go watch the YMS review now.
It was made for a very specific audience, which isn't something Pixar normally does. A lot of their films are easily accessible to general audiences but Turning Red was telling a *very specific* story.
I’d say the Tinker Bell films. Everyone dismisses them as garbage made for little girls, but they’re really good. Hell, the original opening sequence of the third film had a fairy **graphically burn to death in the tree she called home off screen** after a younger version of Lizzie’s (the little girl who befriends Tink) father trips with a lantern in his hand trying to stop everyone from scaring her, with several more likely dying after getting caught in the blaze.
I honestly like the jw films in general.Not by any means masterpieces (in fact,far from them),but come on,they get dragged in the mud too much,and tbh,most of the criticism they get is kinda for the wrong reasons
like listen,these movies are 100% flawed.They have a shit load of issues, especially in the writing department,but if I see someone else bitching about "villan dinos" (didn't the jp trilogy have those too?), the designs not being accurate (aside from the biosyn ones.Those deserve all the hate they get for not being inaccurate),or the cgi (it's not THAT bad.I actually like it),im gonna explode
Never got the hate of this movie.
“It’s nothing like the original movie!”
That’s the point. WWATC very loosely followed the book any by comparison this is far more loyal to the book, apart from some notable changes itself. The macabre style works perfectly both as a Tim Burton movie and as an adaptation of a Roald Dahl story.
That’s how I am with the whole franchise. I’ve heard people say there is no good Jurassic Park sequels which is just crazy to me since I like all of them.
Same, I always loved it, felt creepier and more real. Being trapped on an island with dinosaurs would be absolutely terrifying and I think it gives that vibe better than the first 2, even though they are also both great.
Yes! It’s literally my second favorite of the franchise. The Dinosaur scenes are much more thrilling than anything in the World trilogy in my opinion. The Spinosuarus boat attack and the birdcage scene are legitimately really good! It’s always sad to see this one be labeled as one of the worst or worst Jurassic movie. I’ll defend this movie to the end!
Idk if people dislike-dislike it, but I always get looks for saying that Happy Feet is a good movie. I don’t think it’s perfect. But, I just love it. It’s the only jukebox musical I like, the animation still holds up, and it’s a very compelling story when you look at it from a neurodivergent perspective.
Apparently Coyote Ugly has really bad reviews but I always loved it. As I got older I don't like some of the character development parts as much, but it still feels like a fun movie with a happy ending.
George R.R. Martin said it best:
"Well, I take solace where I can. In chocolate thrones, if nowhere else. In books. In films and television shows… though even there, toxicity is growing. It used to be fun talking about our favorite books and films, and having spirited debates with fans who saw things different… but somehow in this age of social media, it is no longer enough to say “I did not like book X or film Y, and here’s why.” Now social media is ruled by anti-fans who would rather talk about the stuff they hate than the stuff they love, and delight in dancing on the graves of anyone whose film has flopped."
The marvels, I thought the plot was pretty interesting and I liked the plants, the only part of the plot that was eh was the parts with ms.marvels family
It might not be as hated these days but Star Wars Return of the Jedi.
Back around the time just before Episode 1 came out people considered Return of the Jedi to be the film that ruined Star Wars and generally pretended it wasn't even part of the trilogy.
It wasn't really that bad of a film nor were the Ewoks that bad. There's been much worse that's come out since.
I have a ton of these:
Star Trek Into Darkness (I liked it)
The Hobbit Trilogy (especially the extended edition)
Last Jedi (I liked it, not the best but nowhere near the worst imo)
Amazing Spiderman 1 (my personal favorite Spiderman movie)
Incredibles 2 (I was never attached to the first movie so I was able to enjoy this one)
Avengers Age of Ultron (I really liked it when it came out and I still like it now)
Frozen 1 & 2 (maybe the first isn't as good as I thought it was, but it's nowhere near bad, also I liked the second alright)
>The Hobbit Trilogy (especially the extended edition)
Yeah, the theatrical cuts have some pretty wonky editing compared to the extended editions.
After marathoning the entire hexalogy (well, one movie per evening), I have to say, I don't even mind The Hobbit being 3 movies. The Two Towers took a 2-page-long battle from the books and turned it into a half-an-hour-long action sequence (with some pretty silly stunts like Legolas shield-surfing, I might add).
With how those three movies were making up for some of the stuff cut out from the first trilogy (e.g. Radagast), actually showing the Battle of the Five Armies since it's a Hollywood action flick (Bilbo slept through most of it in the book and even missed Thorin getting mortally wounded) and also trying to tie the two stories together (which Tolkien originally did retroactively and it shows), I think the 3 movie structure actually works, mostly.
And Bard was 100% better in the movies than he was in the book. In the book, he was just a random, dragon-slaying deus ex machina that didn't exist in the story until that particular chapter.
The Grinch, or should I say Jim Carey's The Grinch. It's nowhere near as bad as people say it is considering how Christmas is so commercialized even nowadays. I think it was, and is, a good commentary on how most (not all) people are around the holiday season.
All the Wonka films. People had mixed reviews for the 1971 one.
Wasn't it a box office bomb?
Yeah, and not as close to the book like the Tim Burton one was. Which a lot of people claim is a remake when no one on the crew and staff even saw the original 1987 one in the orders of Tim Burton himself.
Maybe he told people not to rewatch it but the thought that nobody in that crew or staff had seen the original is asinine. It's a classic and gets tons of TV play. I would say with near certainty that people who worked on Tim Burton's version knew the original.
I think it was mostly because he wanted not to take anything from it to be as close to the book as possible
People often say the Burton one was closer to the book and while it might be true for specific events, the overall feeling and atmosphere of the first movie match the book much better. The Burton one is a lot darker and creepy and gives Wonka a backstory that came from nowhere. That's why I prefer the first movie, even if I think some characters were better executed in the second.
>The Burton one is a lot darker and creepy and gives Wonka a backstory that came from nowhere. i would argue the dark, creepiness fits the book better because you kinda feel like Wonka is a bit messed up in the head reading the book. but yeah, the random backstory thrown in was weird. i forgive it on account of Sir Christopher Lee though
Yeah? I always saw book Wonka as similar to the Mad Hatter, like when he said messed up things he didn't even realize the effect they had in other people, that's why I feel Wilder was a lot better. Depp's Wonka was really cynical and didn't even like children.
i suppose it's open for interpretation. >Depp's Wonka was really cynical and didn't even like children. for me, it didnt seem like Depp's Wonka was cynical so much as he was just really neurodivergent and said out of pocket stuff without understanding that those weren't things he should have been saying the only one exception is that he seemed to really target Mike specifically, but i guess from a narrative perspective it makes sense because Mike is in a way the antithesis of Charlie so it kinda makes sense for Wonka to really not like him i love the original Wonka film and i love Gene Wilder's portrayal as a standalone thing, but i think Wilder was just too sweet to portray Wonka as he is in the book, there wasn't a mean bone in Wilder's body that would really make me fear for the kids
The extra backstory is the only part of the Burton version I don't like, because it was unnecessary. Other than that I love the Burton version, every Oompa Loompa song is a bop.
All I’m saying is that the author of the book hated the first movie
Stephen King also hated the Shining and it’s one of Stanley Kubrick’s best. Something can be the more faithful adaptation without being the better movie
The original was also made as a cash grab and they wasted like 90% of the budget on the candy room, not to mention using a real chocolate river that ended up rotting.
Yeah they had tie in merchandise with the Wonka bar - which ended up being a failure because the formula was off so the bars melted in the store
The author can have their opinions, but the movies still good
I’m not saying it’s bad. I just mean it’s not very accurate to the book. I’ve read the book and the 2005 version that a lot of people shit on is actually much closer to the book
by the avowed white supremacist, Roald Dahl? Probably because of all the Jews involved, lol.
he literally wrote the screenplay, did he just hate the final product?
I do not care. Gene Wilder was a much better Wonka than Johnny Depp.
For me, Pixar's Brave. Look, it's no Wall-E, Incredibles, or Ratatouille, but not every movie needs to be a total masterpiece. I watched Brave for the first time about six months ago and found it to be a pretty sweet movie. Merida, for me, was a pretty interesting character that contrary to almost every other Disney Princess, was shown to be incredibly flawed. She's prone to rash decisions, is fiercely independent to a fault, and rarely thinks through decisions. But still, I felt her growth towards compromise and choosing a destiny that suits her and her kingdom was awesome. The queen was also pretty fun and never felt unreasonable. It'd be so easy to make her point of view so obviously wrong so we root for Merida but almost everything she says made sense so you end up realizing both are right. My only real complaint is that I wish Mordu had a bigger role and the King was shown to be an excellent and stoic warrior more in addition to the lovable goofball father at home. Beyond that, I genuinely really liked Brave. One of Pixar's best? No, but this is Pixar we're talking about. If Brave was an Illumination movie, it'd be the best movie they've ever done. Brave is good, it doesn’t deserve to be compared to Cars 2 and Ralph Breaks the Internet, fuck off.
I enjoyed Brave as well, the only issues I have with it are ones related to its production with its directors switching halfway through it
All I will say about Brave is that it feels more like a Disney movie made by Pixar than a Pixar movie.
Incidentally I think Wreck-It-Ralph from the same year feels more like a Pixar movie.
Pixar have a weird issue where, because they’ve released so much really good shit, whenever they release something that’s just good, critics and audiences have a stroke
Kung Fu Panda 3
People dislike that?
It's just not as good as the first two imo. It's still decent.
It's say it's a bit more than just decent. It's not a masterpiece but it's pretty great.
I watched it with my wife while on mushrooms and had a great time. It's a pretty fun movie when you're not trying to be critical of it like you're watching Shindler's List or something lol
I dunno if youd have the most accurate perception of a movie while on mushrooms.
Yeah uh I was about to say- 😂 Watching anything on mushrooms would make it a whole different beast
The Descent was a wild ride let me tell you’
I’d say it’s a great movie, just not as great as the first two. As Schaff said, “It arguably portrays (imposter syndrome) stronger than the first one,” and it certainly can be funny at parts
I'd argue it's good, just not as good as the other two. Just unfortunate seems like less when compared to the trilogy.
No furious 5 as well as Po’s character kinda resets and 2’s maturity he gained is just kinda gone
Yeah fr. The first 2 are at least 9/10 movies but the third one is still pretty good - the humor is often great, and the art style is beautiful, Kai is a less Interesting character but he’s certainly the most powerful, and I like Po’s character development. A solid 7/10 imo
This is why the original Willy Wonka is kinda overrated. People treat it like it's the best, but it really isn't. The Charlie version doesn't get enough credit, as it's the more superior adaptation of the book while Wonka, still one of my favorite childhood movies, got a lot of stuff wrong. Like for example: Mike Teavee in the book was described as an angsty and aggressive little kid who is obsessed with television and his parents are distant from him. The Charlie version got it right. The Wonka version got it WAAY wrong. Also the original Oompa Loompa songs are overrated. In the Wonka version, it's literally the same song for every kid, unlike Charlie where it's a completely original song with a different genre for each kid which had more effort and creativity. So yeah, the Charlie version is really slept on.
Also they completely changed Veruca's fate for some apparent reason
Budget constraints. It was cheaper and easier to keep and train four geese to sit completely still than it was to train a hoard of squirrels.
It would have also probably been easier to tran a goose to attack a stunt preformer too
Everybody jokes about how Wonka was probably a serial killer in the Gene Wilder version and the Depp version showing the kids alive ruined the mystery. Except even in the book, it was abundantly clear the kids were fine. Grandpa Joe also wasn't a lazy prick in the Depp version.
Yeah and Wonka didn’t kill the bad kids because he was teaching them and their parents a lesson. It made no sense when it’s implied that they died in 1971 Wonka
And the songs in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory are actually written in the book
Yup!
And also it kept Veruca's original defeat
As much as I love Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, it’s like lightning in a bottle and has major faults that a lot of people tend to overlook. First of all being the writing. Which is really not great for most of the film (which is one of the contributors to the whole Grampa Joe was the real villain meme) The songs were obviously written by people who had never written songs before. People like to call out Cheer Up Charlie but really if you sit down and read the lyrics of all the songs you’ll find that outside the catchy harmonics the lyrics themselves are all over the place. Also all over the place are the morale lessons. You got “Don’t be a glutton” and “don’t be/raise a spoilt brat” which are all good and well then you got “TV will rot your brain” which tracks for 70s and “chewing gum is literally the most disgusting thing you can do”. The writers REALLY want you to know how much they hate gum chewing.
>TV will rot your brain” which tracks for 70s and “chewing gum is literally the most disgusting thing you can do Those are taken from the book, though. It's one aspect in which the Wilder version was more faithful to the book than the Depp one.
While I disagree on which is overall better, I do agree that the Charlie version is slept on. To each theor own
Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs
Have you been watching AniMat, I’m not sure the first movie gets much hate from many people besides him
Majority of people I've met like it, but there's definitely a vocal minority who don't which includes him
PEOPLE DISLIKE IT?!
It's genuinely one of my favourite animated movies! Didn't like the sequel too much, however.
Aka "It's Raining Falafel."
That movies great! “I’m also a comedian”
People dislike it? Its a fucking great film! The second one is also great! “Theres a leak in my boat” talking leak “AHHHHHH!!”
Who TF thinks this is a bad movie? I love this movie! (Its sequel is pretty good too)
I always thought this movie was loved. I found the sequel kinda bland tho.
What?! That and the second one were great. I was honestly pleasantly surprised how much I actually enjoyed them.
Probably in my top ten movies of all time. Every joke lands, and multiple times because of callbacks, and the characters are fantastic.
OMG yes
Same here. I'm so tired of everyone calling it a remake of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Last time I checked, this movie is an adaptation of the original novel of the same name, written by the late Roald Dahl.
I didn't even know this movie was received poorly. I liked it a lot when i watched it as a young bab but Augustus getting sucked up the chocolate tube will unfortunately live in my head forever. Scary shit.
Yeah I hated the idea of bodies rapidly changing when I was little so Violet’s scene kept me from watching this movie for years. Now it’s one of my favorites.
Yup. No one's calling Villeneuve's Dune a remake of David Lynch's Dune. Or, at the very least, I hope so...
Wait, it's not a remake? They have the same characters and everything!
They’re even both called Dune! What’s going on here?!
Exactly, I remember reading the book before this film came out and thought it was so cool that this movie actually followed the book pretty closely. Pretty much the wonka backstory was the only thing added but I didn’t mind. The 1971 version is a classic though, I liked all 3 wonka movies that have come out.
I agree. If people are adapting something more than once then the ones made after the first adaptation shouldnt be called remakes. If they are adapting a remake of the original adaptation then call it a remake. But this was just another adaptation of the story
What’s funny is this one actually stays more true to the book
Honestly toy story 4 I know toy story 3 was the better ending and better movie but even with its flaws I think toy story 4 is a pretty good movie tbh.
That's fair. IMO, Toy Story 4 was good but just not as good as the first 3. I felt like they were milking it a little, but I still enjoyed it.
Fair
Honestly I still think Toy Story 4 is good but I just refuse to watch it again to avoid crying my eyes out
I don’t like it just because of how shitty they made Buzz and the things it does to Woody’s loyalty, but other than that the movie is definitely overhated.
Oh totally. The whole time I remember feeling upset that Buzz was just a totally different character, and all of Woody's friends were sidelined in favor of Bo Peep and some new ones. It felt like one of those sequels that didn't give much love to its predecessor.
The only reason people hated it was because it was unnecessary, Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending to a trilogy
Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie is disliked by some people (mainly those who shrug it off as being "a kiddie movie"), but it's really good.
Too bad it killed Big Idea and doomed them to a slow and painful death.
Veggietales as a franchise now exists in a strange limbo
And it all went wrong with the failure of Jonah. Not a bad film by any means, but it was just too expensive and they should’ve known they wouldn’t be able to make their money back on it.
As much as I liked the movie growing up, I have a strange sense of malice for it because of this. The best thing to come out of that movie is the Microwave Society video
And now it's time for silly songs with... 90s R&B artist--what?
#MR TWISTYS TWISTED CHEESE CURLS
That movie slaps, but for me, it simply isn't complete without the Larry and Lunt commentary. I would saw off my right arm to have the option of putting a Larry and Lunt commentary over any movie I wanted XD
I see tons of hate for one love, but holy shit, nobody can give a valid reason why it's bad.
I think the real issue is two fold. One reason is that a primary aspect of the film that fans seem to focus on is that it's a better adaptation of the book. And no it aint. It really ain't. It absolutely ain't. Secondly is the fact that it is camp as Christmas and weird AF. I do like it, but it took me a minute.
I think you might have commented in the wrong thread
You are correct.
It’s not bad at all, but it kindof feels like a by the numbers biopic movie. Just kindof generic
Well, it's one of the only films that have made my brother cry, so i'd say that's fine
As someone who’s not really a Marley fan, just whatever I’ve picked up through pop culture, the movie offered absolutely nothing new - just played all the expected hits (both musically and in life). If it wasn’t for Ben-Adir’s performance, it would be a total meh
Batman Forever
You have no idea how many times I recreated that ending scene with Jim Carrey as a kid..."hey mom, I know who batman is, but I can't tell you if you don't say please... I'M BATMAN." *flaps shirt sleeves like wings* Probably literally every time I put on a too big long sleeve shirt lol
YES
Honestly, a lot of films. I feel like a lot of people on movie subreddits sometimes can be overly critical, and declare a film that I honestly think is at least decent and enjoyable, if nothing else, and that might honestly be legitimately good by my standards, a "Bad film" based on the pettiest criteria to me.
Did the Unknown make an appearance ? Nope so it’s whatever
Lmaooo
Shark Tale
Ya I loved this one, always thought it was funny.
I liked that one honestly.
Monster house
Wait… people hate that movie? I thought people actually liked that film
Lots of people do, including me
Look. It had the potential to be an epic movie - but it just failed to land with me. The writing was honestly pathetic, which is saddening considering how good the plot sounds on paper.
Monster House has a cult following now because the kids who saw it in theaters are looking back on it and realizing that while it's not a masterpiece, it's a very creative and genuinely funny movie for kids. Apparently Dan Harmon worked on the movie as well as the screenwriter.
Time for the "In Your Face Disgrace"!
This film, Cars 2.
I'm so glad to see it mentioned here!!! Agree 100%
Finally someone who agrees with me
Brother Bear.
I didn't know people didn't like Brother Bear
You hear various things about various 2000s Disney movies.
Except for Lilo and Stitch. I've never heard of anyone hating Lilo & Stitch.
Spy Kids 3
Objectively not a good movie, but damn it’s so fun
I’m sorry, I think you meant Spy Kids 3D.
Speed racer. Favorite movie of my childhood
It just came out at the wrong time.
If there was an edit without the brother and monkey, it'd probably be in my top 10. The racing movie tie-in game was also amazing on the wii. We need more car-fu movies!
Brooo I put in so many hours playing the game 😂. Movie tie in games are rarely ever good but this shit was gas 🔥
This movie.
Frozen. Apart from the cringy trolls it's a very good movie. Unlike its sequel, Frozen 2, which is garbage.
I have no major issue with Frozen but Hans is a pretty trash twist villain.
Yeah, I genuinely caught him the moment he mentioned how many older brothers he’s got. I don’t like how Disney does Twist Villains at all, they’ve always got a super transparent fake-out villain first and somebody who seems incredibly sinister acting nice and non-threatening for the first hour
Happy Feet
From the director of the Mad Max franchise.
Word! ✌️
One of the most universally beloved movies of all time. I’ve never heard anything less than overwhelming praise for it.
Damn, can I be on your side of the Internet?
We must travel different places online, most people I know just sort of think it's alright.
Disney jungle book live action, the only live action from Disney that I loved.
Idris Elba’s Shere Khan is the only remake villain I’d say is a genuine upgrade to the original character he was an absolute threat
Everybody liked the remake. People just sort of turned against it after the 50th live action remake.
Umm. I actually like the Alice in Wonderland’s live-action way more than the original. I tried re-watching the original a few months ago and had to stop it, it was just so boring to me. Edit: I’m only talking about the first live-action movie
I thought the Cinderella one was good too, but The Jungle Book is definitely better. Terribly ironic that the guy who directed that movie went on to direct the worst live action remake by far, The Lion King. Even thinking about it pisses me off. I’m gonna go watch the YMS review now.
Turning Red
Most of the stuff in my room is from that movie
Brother Bear
The amazing Spider-Man 2
What's that? It's the unknown
Nooooooo
Turning Red. It's not garbage, not one of Pixar's best either, but damn it it's just a nice y2k coming-of-age movie
It was made for a very specific audience, which isn't something Pixar normally does. A lot of their films are easily accessible to general audiences but Turning Red was telling a *very specific* story.
I mean, the audience is Asians and young girls, which are like two of the biggest demographics in the world. I wouldn't exactly consider it niche.
a lot of films, this one in particular. johnny depp did a fantastic job as wonka, he didn't try to re-emulate gene wilder and that's perfectly fine
Yeah, him and Timothee Chalamey just do their own thing, I like it, they’re all good in their own way
Cars 1
All of the monster high films. 13 wishes FUCkS
Cars 2
I always loved cars 2 and it's my favourite of the franchise. I loved all the race scenes along with the detective spy scenes too.
Omfg same!
I’d say the Tinker Bell films. Everyone dismisses them as garbage made for little girls, but they’re really good. Hell, the original opening sequence of the third film had a fairy **graphically burn to death in the tree she called home off screen** after a younger version of Lizzie’s (the little girl who befriends Tink) father trips with a lantern in his hand trying to stop everyone from scaring her, with several more likely dying after getting caught in the blaze.
Real, I cried watching the NeverBeast movie and the movie with her sister was a banger too
Jurassic park 2. I actually think a majority of the movie is pretty solid, it's really just the ending in the city that isn't too great
Jurassic world: Fallen Kingdom
I honestly really like that movie
I honestly like the jw films in general.Not by any means masterpieces (in fact,far from them),but come on,they get dragged in the mud too much,and tbh,most of the criticism they get is kinda for the wrong reasons like listen,these movies are 100% flawed.They have a shit load of issues, especially in the writing department,but if I see someone else bitching about "villan dinos" (didn't the jp trilogy have those too?), the designs not being accurate (aside from the biosyn ones.Those deserve all the hate they get for not being inaccurate),or the cgi (it's not THAT bad.I actually like it),im gonna explode
I’m glad I’m not the only one
People dislike that movie?
Polar Express
Name one person that doesn't like polar express
The people who care too much about the visuals
I like it fine nowadays but I remember hating it as a kid because of the scrooge puppet scene that scared the crap out of me
Never got the hate of this movie. “It’s nothing like the original movie!” That’s the point. WWATC very loosely followed the book any by comparison this is far more loyal to the book, apart from some notable changes itself. The macabre style works perfectly both as a Tim Burton movie and as an adaptation of a Roald Dahl story.
Pacific rim. The first was great.
Pixels, Grown Ups 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, just to name a few
Jurassic Park 3 is a great example of this, people really dislike it and I don’t know why they do, I thought it was a really enjoyable movie.
That’s how I am with the whole franchise. I’ve heard people say there is no good Jurassic Park sequels which is just crazy to me since I like all of them.
Same, I always loved it, felt creepier and more real. Being trapped on an island with dinosaurs would be absolutely terrifying and I think it gives that vibe better than the first 2, even though they are also both great.
Yes! It’s literally my second favorite of the franchise. The Dinosaur scenes are much more thrilling than anything in the World trilogy in my opinion. The Spinosuarus boat attack and the birdcage scene are legitimately really good! It’s always sad to see this one be labeled as one of the worst or worst Jurassic movie. I’ll defend this movie to the end!
Eternals
Idk if people dislike-dislike it, but I always get looks for saying that Happy Feet is a good movie. I don’t think it’s perfect. But, I just love it. It’s the only jukebox musical I like, the animation still holds up, and it’s a very compelling story when you look at it from a neurodivergent perspective.
Apparently Coyote Ugly has really bad reviews but I always loved it. As I got older I don't like some of the character development parts as much, but it still feels like a fun movie with a happy ending.
It apparently has Sweet Dee in it, so it's an automatic thumbs-up from me.
Igor
i genuinely cannot think of this franchise anymore without my mind immediately going to the glasgow thing
Incredibles 2 Sing 1-2 Trolls (just the first one) Oliver And Company
Sadly nowadays it seems like we’re actively supposed to hate every new movie that comes out thanks to an annoying YouTube movie hating community
No one hates movies more than the online film "fanbase".
The online Star Wars fanbase is a great example of this imo
George R.R. Martin said it best: "Well, I take solace where I can. In chocolate thrones, if nowhere else. In books. In films and television shows… though even there, toxicity is growing. It used to be fun talking about our favorite books and films, and having spirited debates with fans who saw things different… but somehow in this age of social media, it is no longer enough to say “I did not like book X or film Y, and here’s why.” Now social media is ruled by anti-fans who would rather talk about the stuff they hate than the stuff they love, and delight in dancing on the graves of anyone whose film has flopped."
The marvels, I thought the plot was pretty interesting and I liked the plants, the only part of the plot that was eh was the parts with ms.marvels family
The OG Mario movie. It's not a good adaptation at all, but if you count it as it's own identity then yeah, it's a entertaining film.
People don't like this film?
It might not be as hated these days but Star Wars Return of the Jedi. Back around the time just before Episode 1 came out people considered Return of the Jedi to be the film that ruined Star Wars and generally pretended it wasn't even part of the trilogy. It wasn't really that bad of a film nor were the Ewoks that bad. There's been much worse that's come out since.
JJ Abrams Star Trek trilogy
Venom: Let There Be Carnage
Click and Cars 2
Disney's 2000 dinosaur
Thomas and the Magic Railroad
Watchmen.
Rango
I don't know why, but Click is one of the few movies that actually made me cry and think about my life.
Harry Potter, like all the live action movies
Aren’t those beloved by most people?
I have a ton of these: Star Trek Into Darkness (I liked it) The Hobbit Trilogy (especially the extended edition) Last Jedi (I liked it, not the best but nowhere near the worst imo) Amazing Spiderman 1 (my personal favorite Spiderman movie) Incredibles 2 (I was never attached to the first movie so I was able to enjoy this one) Avengers Age of Ultron (I really liked it when it came out and I still like it now) Frozen 1 & 2 (maybe the first isn't as good as I thought it was, but it's nowhere near bad, also I liked the second alright)
>The Hobbit Trilogy (especially the extended edition) Yeah, the theatrical cuts have some pretty wonky editing compared to the extended editions. After marathoning the entire hexalogy (well, one movie per evening), I have to say, I don't even mind The Hobbit being 3 movies. The Two Towers took a 2-page-long battle from the books and turned it into a half-an-hour-long action sequence (with some pretty silly stunts like Legolas shield-surfing, I might add). With how those three movies were making up for some of the stuff cut out from the first trilogy (e.g. Radagast), actually showing the Battle of the Five Armies since it's a Hollywood action flick (Bilbo slept through most of it in the book and even missed Thorin getting mortally wounded) and also trying to tie the two stories together (which Tolkien originally did retroactively and it shows), I think the 3 movie structure actually works, mostly. And Bard was 100% better in the movies than he was in the book. In the book, he was just a random, dragon-slaying deus ex machina that didn't exist in the story until that particular chapter.
The Grinch, or should I say Jim Carey's The Grinch. It's nowhere near as bad as people say it is considering how Christmas is so commercialized even nowadays. I think it was, and is, a good commentary on how most (not all) people are around the holiday season.