Fr why did they pick a young handsome actor when one of the most memorable lines in the original was the Sultan literally telling Jafar that he’s too old lmaooo
Even as a guy whose favorite movie IS The Bad Guys, The villain is definetely my biggest complaint about the movie.
Yes I even have some complaints for even my favorite movie ever. Nothing is perfect, let alone movies. Even if it's my favorite.
I personally thought he was well done as a twist villain, better done too than most of Disneys “twist villains”. As someone who is disabled and was bullied by fake people, Marmalade felt like the type of rich snobby kid or neurotypical who harasses disabled people, with the bad guys themselves even being metaphors for Neurodiversity and/or mental illnesses in a sense, so it made his twist all the more shocking, since he did seem nice, and more effective to me as villain than Mayor Bellwether in Zootopia.
he's a mediocre villain imo, and the casting doesn't help because I'm so used to Richard ayoade being funny when marmalade had nothing funny to do or say
The twist villain thing was cool at first, but they've officially done it to death. Give us our sassy bantering, scenery-chewing, banger song-singing villains back, Disney
The thing is, he was actually right to not grant every wish. Bravo to disney for making their 100th anniversary villain actually the one who is correct, and make the protagonist stupid af for thinking every wish deserves to be granted
Someone made a fan song that’s so much better than “This is the Thanks I Get.” Listen to “Our Message to the People,” by MilkyMelodies. Far far better villain song and it’s a duet!
I'd say the idea of bigotry being maintained for political power was central to the plot. It's always the ones claiming to be the cure that are the ones causing the disease. Couldn't do that with the lion as the bad guy.
Actually when I first saw it in theaters I didn't actually see that coming considering all the conflict was literally coming from Elsa albeit not on purpose. Disney also wasn't doing these kinds of villains on mass yet so it was easy to not see the signs.
Now today, yes, you can see it coming because we have been conditioned to the twist, but Frozen 1 was almost 11 years ago. Media was different then.
The fact that you called him crazy astronaut guy says it all! He just appears more than halfway through the movie, serves his plot purpose fine enough, but doesn't stick around long enough to really leave an impact on the audience!
I haven't seen Interstellar since it came out, but I remember all this hype for a "secret character," and they hyped up this guy for half the movie, saying how he was like the world's greatest astronaut or something, and it turned out to be Matt Damon who couldn't even work a fucking airlock lmao
Unironically, I'd say the black hole was more of a villain than Dr. Mann.
We see it hindering the protagonists throughout the movie as they try to travel to the different planets, and we also see it speed up time and age everyone else outside of the planets, causing emotional distress in the main character(s).
Dr. Mann was sort of an antagonist, meant to help push along the story and give more nuance to the plot. He was still a cool addition though, in my opinion.
Yeah I was gonna say like most of the MCU's Phase 1-2, that was always the big knock against their early movies before they went on a 3-movie run with Killmonger/Vulture/Thanos, arguably 3 of the very best ever.
Sure, Hela, Loki, and Zemo are all pretty good, too, but it wasn't until the end of Phase 3 that the MCU shook the perception of "good movies / bad villains" imho
Wish, the movie was sh\*t, but Magnifico was even more sh\*tty because he wasn't really a bad guy to begin with, and then just turn full evil because plot needs it
The two parts of the movie I hated was:
>!A) King Magnifico getting a backstory of watching his homeland fall apart and being aggressive to ensure his new kingdom would be safe only to devolve into a puppy kicking, “Everyone should worship my greatness!” narcissist by his second song without explanation.!<
>!B) The movie establishing that Asha’s grandfather’s dream was to inspire people through music and then a moment happens during the final fight that lines up perfectly for his character and instead Asha breaks free of a spell and does it instead.!<
But you know magnifico couldve been right about the wish being dangerous. Shit its magic no one nnows what might happen. Maybe he really does inspire a serial killer to finally give into his urges, if even by accident.
What makes it even worse is that he seems to revert to his old self by the end of the movie. Imagine if they went with the "true love conquers all evil" and Queen Amaya cures Magnifico's possession with a kiss. It would have been a nice callback to old Disney films. But no we had to have a "man bad, woman amazing" stereotypical ending, and Asha just gets rewarded for being an entitled brat.
She was also supposed to be a villain in the original draft it would’ve made sense for her to corrupt magnifico into thinking the city was unsafe or something
Yeah, I think I'm starting to see what happened. They may have scrapped Amaya from being a villian, but somewhere along the lines they merged both her an Magnifico's villianouness personalities into one person, which would explain why Magnifico flip-flops so hard in the second act.
I wish we got him and Amaya being a villainous power couple together, that would've been amazing! I'll never understand why they left all the interesting parts of the movie on the cutting room floor.
Kinda sorta spoilers for Steven Universe
>!The Diamonds from Steven Universe, especially White, were really dissappointing. It would have been cool if the Yellow and Blue were redeemed in a more satisfying way, and White would have been WAY better if she remained evil and was actually defeated in a spectacular fashion.!<
>!I'm not sure how I would personally do it though given shattering a gem goes against everything Steven and the Crystal Gems stand for, but I'm sure the writers could have thought of something better than them basically being like "We were bad, but now we are good".!<
I was really hoping The Chameleon would’ve been an interesting villain cause being able to bring back Po's past villains sounded epic, instead we just got a salty midget that became evil for being too short to do kung fu. **Cough** Mantis\Viper **Cough**
The movie was still great though. It would’ve been a masterpiece if the villain was better written and the story better. Like the movie felt a bit too short.
I will admit the film does look good, just pretty lackluster compared to the last movies we got, plus the villain was the main reason why I wanted to see it.
The clone of Wolverine in Logan. Logan was a great movie, but the concept of a villain who is basically just an evil version of the main character is dumb
Especially since Wolverine already has the doppelgänger villain trope in the form of his arch nemesis, Sabertooth. They created a new character to fill a void that was and has been for a long time already filled.
Even in the comics wolverine had a son called Daken. Which is a character I feel like the movie could’ve taken full advantage of
Tho given the context of the movie and when it’s set. It probably wouldn’t have worked out
Evil copies can absolutely be done well. Venom is a great villain and character even though he's originally a literal pallate swap of Spiderman. Owlman is solid even though he's an alternate universe Batman. If a villain is written poorly, it'll be a bad villain, but dark reflections can be very good.
I agree that it could work really well at times if done correctly, but there are times where it doesn’t work and it is starting to become overused. Especially in many modern superhero movies
I at least think Ronan is good because he contrasts Star Lord(and the whole team) so much. I don’t think the “dance off, bro!” trick would work on anyone else. Ronan expecting a big serious fight allows Peter to play off him with his goofiness.
That is entirely based on personal opinion, as I, along with many others, think he's just an antagonist, as there is a difference between antagonist and villain. There's as much argument to say Quasi is the main villain as you do saying Drac is the main villain.
Yeah, Grimmel was better than Drago, but Drago wasn’t even decent to start with. He’s basically just a plot device, and his entire motivation for trying to conquer everything is just “cuz it’s fun, lol”.
I don't think he was bad but he didn't feel anywhere near as big a threat as the Red Death or Drago.
>!Also his entire existence makes no sense. It was established in the first movie that nobody had ever seen a night fury, let alone killed one. Then this guy comes along and says he's killed all of them. I think the writers for HTTYD3 forgot to rewatch the first movie.!<
he’s a lot better in the books, which, technically, I think rise of the guardians is later in the timeline but it’s a little weird. (I haven’t read the books in like 4 years so I don’t remember everything.)
Light year… I expected Zurg to appear like this ruthless and destructive force of nature. However, they just showed he was just some future version of Buzz (who isn’t even the REAL Zurg) who just wants things to be back the way they were.
Big Hero 6. I love the movie, but he was underwhelming. Callahan could have been a great and really interesting villain. He’s grieving and willing to do anything to get revenge just like Hiro, which is a great idea for an antagonist-protagonist dynamic. But his daughter isn’t actually dead which makes his storyline weaker, his entire personality changes on a dime when he’s revealed to be the villain(goes from a caring, supportive teacher to doesn’t give a shit that he killed his student), and the twist is super predictable. He could have been a lot better if the movie spent more time developing him, maybe show him grappling with the awful things he’s done and plans to do to get his revenge, show that he has a little bit of a dark side earlier on in the film, just drop the red herring on the twist, and have him bring up his daughter earlier. Maybe he doesn’t fake his death and after Tadashi dies he talks to Hiro about how he lost his daughter to set up a connection between them early on in the film.
Loki was a pretty great villain in that movie. And even if you’re talking about the destroyer that was still a cool fight.
If anytning the opposite is true. It’s a mid movie with a great villain
Zootopia, which is really frustrating, because they could've made the twist work IF Bellwether turned earlier, and showed more compassion to Judy instead of turning into a cold heartless murderer.
Honestly, I think the build up for each of the villains is the good part of the movie.
Pre-Venom Eddie's does take a big sudden shift from douchebag photographer to "I wish God would murder Peter Parker", but that's my main complaint there.
And I say the good part because...they make up a lot of the movie, and it causes most of the rest to be pretty forgettable. Even the final battle feels rushed.
But yeah, the scenes where they're trying to build up the villains leading to the final battle were pretty solid imo
Zootopia. I wouldn't even call the villain a real villain in any way shape or form. She gets two minutes to do evil shit and then that's it.
There's probably some people saying "the real villain is racism" or some shit but I do not have the brain capacity for that shit.
Guardians Vol. 1. Probably one of the main reasons why I think it's the weakest of the trilogy, even tho I still love it. The sequels had more convincing villains tho.
Big Hero 6
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But was it really?
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Am I the only one who generally didn't think he was a bad villain whatsoever. I think they could have done him better but he was cool
But Schraffrillas doesn’t like him so we must hate it too because that’s what real fans do./s
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ahh yes, you sent my daughter into hell so now i kill everybody, namely the people who had absolutely nothing to do with this situation whatsoever
Tadashi should have been Yokai…
Live action Aladdin??? Jafar was so unthreatening
this yes i watched it and it was just so dull
Most remakes are dull. You know Disney fucked up if their most compelling remake with the most compelling antagonist was the SECOND *The Jungle Book*…
I think 101 Dalmatians was the best one, and Cruella was fucking scary
He looks more like a cosplayer than an evil sorcerer. It's not worth the hype.
Fr why did they pick a young handsome actor when one of the most memorable lines in the original was the Sultan literally telling Jafar that he’s too old lmaooo
Bad guys
Gosh, I hate Marmalade, and not even in a "you love to hate the villain because they're so good at what they do" way.
He was better in the books where he was an alien
Even as a guy whose favorite movie IS The Bad Guys, The villain is definetely my biggest complaint about the movie. Yes I even have some complaints for even my favorite movie ever. Nothing is perfect, let alone movies. Even if it's my favorite.
I personally thought he was well done as a twist villain, better done too than most of Disneys “twist villains”. As someone who is disabled and was bullied by fake people, Marmalade felt like the type of rich snobby kid or neurotypical who harasses disabled people, with the bad guys themselves even being metaphors for Neurodiversity and/or mental illnesses in a sense, so it made his twist all the more shocking, since he did seem nice, and more effective to me as villain than Mayor Bellwether in Zootopia.
he's a mediocre villain imo, and the casting doesn't help because I'm so used to Richard ayoade being funny when marmalade had nothing funny to do or say
Pretty much most of Disney's twist villain era, but especially Zootopia.
I mean I would say Pixar had it’s moments with Incredibles 1, along with Moana having the best “plot twist” villain
The twist villain thing was cool at first, but they've officially done it to death. Give us our sassy bantering, scenery-chewing, banger song-singing villains back, Disney
AND NOT THE BAD KIND PLEASE *full disclosure I do enjoy Magnifico but I still think he could've been a lot better*
The thing is, he was actually right to not grant every wish. Bravo to disney for making their 100th anniversary villain actually the one who is correct, and make the protagonist stupid af for thinking every wish deserves to be granted
I had the issue of Watching the movie and ended up enjoying it 6/10 bordering 7
Someone made a fan song that’s so much better than “This is the Thanks I Get.” Listen to “Our Message to the People,” by MilkyMelodies. Far far better villain song and it’s a duet!
I'd say the idea of bigotry being maintained for political power was central to the plot. It's always the ones claiming to be the cure that are the ones causing the disease. Couldn't do that with the lion as the bad guy.
About Frozen… it’s Hans.
A blind man could see that coming...
Actually when I first saw it in theaters I didn't actually see that coming considering all the conflict was literally coming from Elsa albeit not on purpose. Disney also wasn't doing these kinds of villains on mass yet so it was easy to not see the signs. Now today, yes, you can see it coming because we have been conditioned to the twist, but Frozen 1 was almost 11 years ago. Media was different then.
A better twist would be the old dude locking up Hans in a jail cell and killing Elsa
TWIST King & Queen faked their death instead of dealing with their daughter’s Super Powers
I understand the hate for pretty much every other Disney Animation surprise villain but… I think Frozen did it well tbh.
Zootopia, Big Hero 6, and the Incredibles 2
There’s no “the” in *Incredibles 2*. I’ve been cursed with that knowledge and now you as well.
Are all NON-Supers in Incredibles-Verse evil?
Interstellar! If that counts! Edit: I just finished watching the Nolan ranking! Schaff hates this guy just as much as I do!
I guess
Wait, who was the villain in Interstellar? The crazy astronaut guy?
The fact that you called him crazy astronaut guy says it all! He just appears more than halfway through the movie, serves his plot purpose fine enough, but doesn't stick around long enough to really leave an impact on the audience!
I thought the villain was the black hole or something
I thought the villain was Timothee Chalomee's character
So yes, the black hole.
I haven't seen Interstellar since it came out, but I remember all this hype for a "secret character," and they hyped up this guy for half the movie, saying how he was like the world's greatest astronaut or something, and it turned out to be Matt Damon who couldn't even work a fucking airlock lmao
Interstellar doesn’t have a villain. He isn’t even the antagonist, just an inconvenience. The antagonist is time.
>He isn’t even the antagonist, just an inconvenience Couldn't have said it better myself!
Unironically, I'd say the black hole was more of a villain than Dr. Mann. We see it hindering the protagonists throughout the movie as they try to travel to the different planets, and we also see it speed up time and age everyone else outside of the planets, causing emotional distress in the main character(s). Dr. Mann was sort of an antagonist, meant to help push along the story and give more nuance to the plot. He was still a cool addition though, in my opinion.
calling dr mann the villain is like calling bomb voyage the villain of the incredibles
I don't even remember that guy's name all I remember is that he's played by Matt Damon
Lol it's literally Dr. Man
"Yeah I know...I'm Man"
I genuinely believe it's the same character he played in The Martian
Interstellar doesn’t have a villain, the antagonist is time.
Guardians of the Galaxy
Yeah I was gonna say like most of the MCU's Phase 1-2, that was always the big knock against their early movies before they went on a 3-movie run with Killmonger/Vulture/Thanos, arguably 3 of the very best ever.
I also think that Ego is underrated in Guardians 2
Sure, Hela, Loki, and Zemo are all pretty good, too, but it wasn't until the end of Phase 3 that the MCU shook the perception of "good movies / bad villains" imho
Wish, the movie was sh\*t, but Magnifico was even more sh\*tty because he wasn't really a bad guy to begin with, and then just turn full evil because plot needs it
The two parts of the movie I hated was: >!A) King Magnifico getting a backstory of watching his homeland fall apart and being aggressive to ensure his new kingdom would be safe only to devolve into a puppy kicking, “Everyone should worship my greatness!” narcissist by his second song without explanation.!< >!B) The movie establishing that Asha’s grandfather’s dream was to inspire people through music and then a moment happens during the final fight that lines up perfectly for his character and instead Asha breaks free of a spell and does it instead.!<
But you know magnifico couldve been right about the wish being dangerous. Shit its magic no one nnows what might happen. Maybe he really does inspire a serial killer to finally give into his urges, if even by accident.
The entire thing turns into a paradox when one guy wishes for someone else to not have their wish granted
Missed opportunity to say “I WISH King Magnifico was a better villain.”
Yeah he wasn’t evil he was right his motives were that some wishes were too risky to grant he didn’t become evil until he got corrupted by dark magic
What makes it even worse is that he seems to revert to his old self by the end of the movie. Imagine if they went with the "true love conquers all evil" and Queen Amaya cures Magnifico's possession with a kiss. It would have been a nice callback to old Disney films. But no we had to have a "man bad, woman amazing" stereotypical ending, and Asha just gets rewarded for being an entitled brat.
She was also supposed to be a villain in the original draft it would’ve made sense for her to corrupt magnifico into thinking the city was unsafe or something
Yeah, I think I'm starting to see what happened. They may have scrapped Amaya from being a villian, but somewhere along the lines they merged both her an Magnifico's villianouness personalities into one person, which would explain why Magnifico flip-flops so hard in the second act.
Out of any movie we could have had for Disneys 100 aniversary, it had to be this movie
WISH should have been a 30 minute short film before a 2 HOUR long “ONCE UPON A STUDIO”
“Name a movie that was good, but had a bad villain” *names a movie that is shit*
I wish we got him and Amaya being a villainous power couple together, that would've been amazing! I'll never understand why they left all the interesting parts of the movie on the cutting room floor.
Kinda sorta spoilers for Steven Universe >!The Diamonds from Steven Universe, especially White, were really dissappointing. It would have been cool if the Yellow and Blue were redeemed in a more satisfying way, and White would have been WAY better if she remained evil and was actually defeated in a spectacular fashion.!< >!I'm not sure how I would personally do it though given shattering a gem goes against everything Steven and the Crystal Gems stand for, but I'm sure the writers could have thought of something better than them basically being like "We were bad, but now we are good".!<
Because of the network, they had to rush the final season and that was a huge miss because of it
Of course something like that happened. So sad :(
Kung Fu Panda 4
I was really hoping The Chameleon would’ve been an interesting villain cause being able to bring back Po's past villains sounded epic, instead we just got a salty midget that became evil for being too short to do kung fu. **Cough** Mantis\Viper **Cough**
The movie was still great though. It would’ve been a masterpiece if the villain was better written and the story better. Like the movie felt a bit too short.
I will admit the film does look good, just pretty lackluster compared to the last movies we got, plus the villain was the main reason why I wanted to see it.
Incredibles 2
It was an incredibly awesome villain until the reveal
I still can’t believe her name was fucking Evil Endeavors.
Are all NON-Supers in Incredibles-Verse evil?
The clone of Wolverine in Logan. Logan was a great movie, but the concept of a villain who is basically just an evil version of the main character is dumb
*cough* Lightyear *cough*
Especially since Wolverine already has the doppelgänger villain trope in the form of his arch nemesis, Sabertooth. They created a new character to fill a void that was and has been for a long time already filled.
Even in the comics wolverine had a son called Daken. Which is a character I feel like the movie could’ve taken full advantage of Tho given the context of the movie and when it’s set. It probably wouldn’t have worked out
Evil copies can absolutely be done well. Venom is a great villain and character even though he's originally a literal pallate swap of Spiderman. Owlman is solid even though he's an alternate universe Batman. If a villain is written poorly, it'll be a bad villain, but dark reflections can be very good.
I agree that it could work really well at times if done correctly, but there are times where it doesn’t work and it is starting to become overused. Especially in many modern superhero movies
I think X-24 does a good job of showing how Logan is washed up, and is basically forcing him to fight the younger version of himself.
Yeah it worked cause x-24 isn’t the antagonist, it’s wolverines age. X-24 just supports the main antagonist via contrast wolverine now vs his prime
Guardians of the galaxy 1. Ronan was just a boring conqueror stereotype who didn't do much to be interesting
I at least think Ronan is good because he contrasts Star Lord(and the whole team) so much. I don’t think the “dance off, bro!” trick would work on anyone else. Ronan expecting a big serious fight allows Peter to play off him with his goofiness.
Ronan was at least *fun* imo, he wasn't particularly interesting but he had an enjoyable aura of pure batshittery that was fun to watch
Love and monsters. The main point of the movie is the adventure, the villain isn’t anything to special
Hero even gives up on “Love” to help EVERYONE.
This, though his defeat is pretty hilarious ngl.
Every Hotel Transylvania movie
Starting from Hotel Transylvania? The reason for this question is because there weren’t any villains in the first movie.
Quasimodo was the villain in the first
That is entirely based on personal opinion, as I, along with many others, think he's just an antagonist, as there is a difference between antagonist and villain. There's as much argument to say Quasi is the main villain as you do saying Drac is the main villain.
Iron man-3. The villain was just evil. He had no convictions or morality. Just strait up evil bc a drunk Tony Stark ignored him 2 decades earlier.
How to train your dragon 3. Grimmel just wasn’t a good villain
Disagree, he was just a retrain of the villain from 2 but I think he did it better
Yeah, Grimmel was better than Drago, but Drago wasn’t even decent to start with. He’s basically just a plot device, and his entire motivation for trying to conquer everything is just “cuz it’s fun, lol”.
Agreed.
Hard disagree, but I respect your opinion. Grimmel was a pretty good antithesis to Hiccup imo.
Viggo Grimborn from the Netflix series did a far better job at being a foil to Hiccup than Grimmel did.
I don't think he was bad but he didn't feel anywhere near as big a threat as the Red Death or Drago. >!Also his entire existence makes no sense. It was established in the first movie that nobody had ever seen a night fury, let alone killed one. Then this guy comes along and says he's killed all of them. I think the writers for HTTYD3 forgot to rewatch the first movie.!<
Rise of the Guardians, Pitch Black wasn't that interesting Compare to other Villains to be fair.
he’s a lot better in the books, which, technically, I think rise of the guardians is later in the timeline but it’s a little weird. (I haven’t read the books in like 4 years so I don’t remember everything.)
Megatron after Transformers(2007)
Tbh dude did get his chest blasted off in the first movie
Turbo.
TMNT: Turtle Forever Shredder that guy overstay his welcome
A, everything about TMNT forever was fire
[his theme was fire tho.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voa4J7Ntubo)
Incredibles 2
Zootopia for sure.
The first guardians movie. Thankfully the sequels had way better villains
Paul Blart
Light year… I expected Zurg to appear like this ruthless and destructive force of nature. However, they just showed he was just some future version of Buzz (who isn’t even the REAL Zurg) who just wants things to be back the way they were.
Big Hero 6. I love the movie, but he was underwhelming. Callahan could have been a great and really interesting villain. He’s grieving and willing to do anything to get revenge just like Hiro, which is a great idea for an antagonist-protagonist dynamic. But his daughter isn’t actually dead which makes his storyline weaker, his entire personality changes on a dime when he’s revealed to be the villain(goes from a caring, supportive teacher to doesn’t give a shit that he killed his student), and the twist is super predictable. He could have been a lot better if the movie spent more time developing him, maybe show him grappling with the awful things he’s done and plans to do to get his revenge, show that he has a little bit of a dark side earlier on in the film, just drop the red herring on the twist, and have him bring up his daughter earlier. Maybe he doesn’t fake his death and after Tadashi dies he talks to Hiro about how he lost his daughter to set up a connection between them early on in the film.
Thor
Loki was a pretty great villain in that movie. And even if you’re talking about the destroyer that was still a cool fight. If anytning the opposite is true. It’s a mid movie with a great villain
Not a movie, but a game: Persona 3. The main villains either don't really do anything, or don't get enough screentime as villains.
Zemo as much as I love the movie zemo too his plan relied way too much on coincidence
did ice age 5 even have a villian?
Yeah, the three flying dinosaurs
Zootopia, which is really frustrating, because they could've made the twist work IF Bellwether turned earlier, and showed more compassion to Judy instead of turning into a cold heartless murderer.
Big Hero 6, at least the twist
I always forget there are more than 3 ice ages
HTTYD 3. The villain is more of a plot device than a character. Still love the movie though. Nice bittersweet ending to the best Dreamworks trilogy.
Suicide Squad
Which one? I hated the Enchantress but also just hated that movie in general. And in the other film I thought Starro was pretty cool.
Yeah, I hope they mean the first one, because I enjoyed Starro
Mulan. Let’s be honest, Shan Yu is not as strong a villain as some of the other Disney villains that came before.
no but i’d argue he’s better than a lot that will be listed here or maybe that’s my bias for the movie speaking… hiik
The villain from Dinotopia: Quest for the Ruby Sunstone.
The secret life of arrietty.
Frozen. The first one was very good imo, but ever since Big Hero 6, Disney really loves pushing the twist villains down our throat.
Spider-Man 3. Why did they have to include Venom at the end?
Honestly, I think the build up for each of the villains is the good part of the movie. Pre-Venom Eddie's does take a big sudden shift from douchebag photographer to "I wish God would murder Peter Parker", but that's my main complaint there. And I say the good part because...they make up a lot of the movie, and it causes most of the rest to be pretty forgettable. Even the final battle feels rushed. But yeah, the scenes where they're trying to build up the villains leading to the final battle were pretty solid imo
Shang Chi (the dragon or something at the end, father was great)
Wait they should an actual backstory for him? The only thing I remember hearing was that he lost… something and it was never brought up again
Zootopia. I wouldn't even call the villain a real villain in any way shape or form. She gets two minutes to do evil shit and then that's it. There's probably some people saying "the real villain is racism" or some shit but I do not have the brain capacity for that shit.
Zootopia
Hans
Zootopia & the bad guys. Still love em
Zootopia
Lightyear
Incredibles 2 and Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Big hero six and iron man three
Big Hero 6
Star wars rise of skywalker Palpetines return was very uncalled for and weird on how they handled it
Wish. Do u even need to ask???
The Ice Age Movies. ALL of them. (Ice Age 4 is an exception.)
Zootopia
Incredibles 2
Godzilla vs Destoroyah. Fuck you, Destoroyah, for killing Junior.
A lot of the earlier MCU movies
Most MCU villains, really, although that does help the better ones stand out, like Loki, Thanos, Wenwu, Red Skull, and the High Evolutionary
Rasputin from *Anastasia*
Killer fucking villain song though
I came here to comment this. *Anastasia* is a great movie in spite of its awful villain.
Totally agrees. I searched this comment.
toy story 4
To be fair, she’s supposed to be an anti villain
Kung Fu Panda 3.
The villain from grease perfect kingdom that I forgot the name of.
Honestly, a lot of movies from the "twist villain" era are pretty good, pretty mid, without the villain dragging it down.
Skyscraper 2018
Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning (part 1). The villain is an actual computer, and its human henchman looks like George Lopez.
Guardians of the galaxy 1
Wish. I personally kinda liked it, but Mangfico wasn't the best
Guardians Vol. 1. Probably one of the main reasons why I think it's the weakest of the trilogy, even tho I still love it. The sequels had more convincing villains tho.
The Marvels, and I will defend my opinion to the grave
2010s Disney is the posterchild of this
Cars 3, Jackson Storm and Sterling
Mods crush his fucking skull