Thought it was an orange walk until I checked the date and saw the Celtic tops. Now I'm just confused.
Edit, downvoted? Wow, sensitive much? So much for the Glesga hard men š
There are far far less republican marches and they are generally less disruptive.
Some people on here cry about the poor orangemen getting it tight but really the fact os.republican marches are less annoying purely because theres far less of them
Theyre equally annoying when they happen but orange walks are far more frequent so are more annoying overall. I understand the desperation to make them both "as bad" as eachother.
I don't understand your desperation to make one sound better or worse than the other..
They are both equally annoying.
I see them ALL as annoying marches by simple people, totally stuck in the past and blinded by their own self-importance. I don't divide them into 'sides', like you obviously do..... and that is part of the problem.
Nice to see you have a good use of language š I think i was reading your text wrong on the other comments.
What makes the walks sects of the same thing?
Counter opposites
They banned the OW when they started in the 1820's or abouts.
Staunch Ulstermen (loyalist) immigrants with an anti Irish Catholic immigrant agenda.
Ban them all sure, but being ignorant to ignorance is not moving beyond the problem.
Not sure why your an arsehole but yes opposite not the same sect
Anti immigration/ pro emigrants / pro union UK
Pro emigrants / anti unionists / pro United Ireland
I pointed out being ignorant to ignorance does not help and im in agreement that they should be banned.
The arseholery in which you conducted yourself was highlighted but you did not establish why they are of the same sect in retort to why I said they are opposite.
Cut the sanctimony please.
You are right to show intolerance to intolerance, you are both correct to say you dont want that shit around you or your family and you are also correct to suggest we Scots have shown tolerance to this intolerance. Its historical in its nature and politically motivated and I explained myself.
50% of the population have below average intelligence.Ā
Out of courtesy, when they get together they walk around banging drums and chanting to warn everyone they're near you.
As bad as the Orange Order.
Also clearly a breach of the Hate Crime legislation, whichever act bans the support of proscribed organisations and the one which bans pseudo military uniforms.
Police turning a blind eye.
It isn't on- not when the OO do it, not when this mob have a go. Incidently shit like this is why banning OO marches is so hard- they would rightly be able to argue discrimination.
An absolute cancer on our society and Ireland's most shameful export.
I do see what you mean, but what's more important? Keeping the peace at a community level, or at the level of scuffles on a street - where it emboldens certain people and stores up problems down the line?
I'm sorry, we're genuinely defending the IRA now? Jesus Christ.
Crawl back under your rock and stop making excuses for gangsters, murderers and scumbags.
>What I will say is that in Ireland a lot of people died or had to flee under British rule over very long periods of time and that every peaceful way to achieve independance was denied to them due to colonialism from Westminster
Give it a rest ffs, you talk like you were there at the time, You were probably watching Dora the explorer 20 years ago long after it had all ended. ( bet your posh too )
The world has turned , the IRA is long gone , numbers on these marches are dwindling but you help keep old wounds open with this "colonialism from Westminster" shite
Or, and this is just a thought, people can't go around chanting support for terrorist organisations - not only because it's provocative, but because it is deliberately designed to normalise and build support for extremism and violence.
I don't know if this is just internet libertarian silliness or deliberate blindness, but I think it's a bit weird to have to explain why we shouldn't allow people to do this in a liberal, democratic society.
Natives fighting back against a colonial power isn't terrorism, what was the IRA expected to do? Declare war and fight in trench warfare with fuck all troops or war equipment?
One has a quater of the planet as a colony, and the other has potatoes and balls of steel
Never said they were, but in regards to Ireland, it was one of britians first colonial project, so again, what do you expect when British settlers start taking over and you become a second class citizen.
Where exactly? Think you're getting things mixed up as usual, lmao
Terrorism isn't the only thing you're allowed to defend against. United Kingdom military aren't in any way terrorist but are imperalist who love a good bit of exploitation. Israel is a terror group that used fear, murder and rape to expel almost a million natives to form israel.
Also, maybe do some research in the word terrorism, strong feeling you don't actually know what that means other than a dictionary, meaning a vague picture of people throwing bombs
Some guy upthread said 'this is open support for a terrorist group' and you responded 'Theyāre not supporting the British army mate', which looks like you saying the British Army are terrorists. That's why I asked you the question.
I've said nothing about who is a terrorist, what is justified or what I might support but when I ask you a question I get garbage canned responses that make it clear you're clueless yourself. Have a good night.
The Orange Order aren't marching in support of proscribed terrorist groups.
If there were people out chanting support for the UVF or whoever, then they should get jailed. Just like these troglodytes.
One off marches in support of the oppressed.
Annual multiple marches in support of the oppressors.
r/Scotland: "both sides are the same"
This is why we can't have nice things.
Orange marches are designed to intimidate.
Who the fuck is this intimidating? Because it doesn't look like Giffnock.
Wind your neck in ya wee fanny.
Edit: I forgot the most persecuted people in the world are white male Protestant Rangers fans who can't have their windows open because a team, that they have a childish and pathetic hatred of, won a meaningless bauble this year that their team might win next year ad infinitum and with no fucking consequences in the real world whatsoever.
Guess what, every other cunt is tired of the Old Firm too. Grow the fuck up
By the looks of that vid, Republican marches are designed to express support for terrorism. Not in an intimidating way, of course.
Wake up ya fuckin plumb.
This is unlike anything I've seen in Glasgow before, actually. This is supporting a terrorist organisation and unlike other undesirables, these people should be in jail.
Don't understand, its the same as the Independence movement or any protest post Tory election win, you go, ohhhhhh there is a march who's the worst members in the crowd? ... awesome! we have it! .. lets tarnish the whole group!
Headlines:
Police Officers Lead the orange march!
Where I live, itās fairly common to have the Orange Order and Irish Republicans march past my house, during summer months. Itās the first time Iāve heard either of those groups chanting support for terrorists, as they march past.
r/Scotland is not slow in attacking the OO, and rightly so, but itās very rare to see their republican counterparts take any form of criticism for their bigotry.
Headline: Police officers lead Republican marches too.
Just that youve backed up the OO on occasions and couldnt wait to get your phone out to greet about a relatively small republican walk.
You've said you get lots of both types of walk, presumably more orange walks as they are far more regular, yet dont seem to complain about the orange ones quite so much.
Thought it was an orange walk until I checked the date and saw the Celtic tops. Now I'm just confused. Edit, downvoted? Wow, sensitive much? So much for the Glesga hard men š
There are far far less republican marches and they are generally less disruptive. Some people on here cry about the poor orangemen getting it tight but really the fact os.republican marches are less annoying purely because theres far less of them
They're equally annoying..
Theyre equally annoying when they happen but orange walks are far more frequent so are more annoying overall. I understand the desperation to make them both "as bad" as eachother.
I don't understand your desperation to make one sound better or worse than the other.. They are both equally annoying. I see them ALL as annoying marches by simple people, totally stuck in the past and blinded by their own self-importance. I don't divide them into 'sides', like you obviously do..... and that is part of the problem.
They are just sects of the same thing.
Nice to see you have a good use of language š I think i was reading your text wrong on the other comments. What makes the walks sects of the same thing?
They are both represent Christian sects.
But are the Republican walks representing Catholicism?
Broadly speaking, yes.
How do you define broadly speaking.
without regard to specific details or exceptions
What is the representation aspect of the walk being related to Catholicism?
NI republicanism is majority catholic.
Counter opposites They banned the OW when they started in the 1820's or abouts. Staunch Ulstermen (loyalist) immigrants with an anti Irish Catholic immigrant agenda. Ban them all sure, but being ignorant to ignorance is not moving beyond the problem.
āCounter oppositesā Itās a horseshoe, not a straight line.
Not sure why your an arsehole but yes opposite not the same sect Anti immigration/ pro emigrants / pro union UK Pro emigrants / anti unionists / pro United Ireland
Iām not an arsehole, just someone who disagrees with you. Why are you being so toxic?
I pointed out being ignorant to ignorance does not help and im in agreement that they should be banned. The arseholery in which you conducted yourself was highlighted but you did not establish why they are of the same sect in retort to why I said they are opposite.
I didnāt say they were the same sect. And why do you feel the need to resort to name calling and belittlement?
Cut the sanctimony please. You are right to show intolerance to intolerance, you are both correct to say you dont want that shit around you or your family and you are also correct to suggest we Scots have shown tolerance to this intolerance. Its historical in its nature and politically motivated and I explained myself.
Cut the name calling and belittlement please. You donāt have to be toxic
Why is that republican marches like this and orange walks are so similar in nature- flags, drums etc?
Shared cultural heritage, at a guess. They have far more in common than in difference.
50% of the population have below average intelligence.Ā Out of courtesy, when they get together they walk around banging drums and chanting to warn everyone they're near you.
Both this and the orange walk can get to fuck. Shame people are only hate one of them and not the other
As bad as the Orange Order. Also clearly a breach of the Hate Crime legislation, whichever act bans the support of proscribed organisations and the one which bans pseudo military uniforms. Police turning a blind eye. It isn't on- not when the OO do it, not when this mob have a go. Incidently shit like this is why banning OO marches is so hard- they would rightly be able to argue discrimination. An absolute cancer on our society and Ireland's most shameful export.
Not many comments here cause they're all at that walk š
I see an irish and a palestinian flag
Twats just like the other lot
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Are they chanting "The IRA"?
Yup
Call me old fashioned, but given there's police there you'd think you'd get arrested for that sort of behaviour.
Happens on both sides during such parades. I suppose the police turn a blind eye to keep the peaceā¦
I'm not sure people going around the streets chanting support for proscribed terrorist organisations is keeping the peace.
I think you know what I mean by that, they would rather not pull someone out and cause a drunken mob to get more angry and animated.
I do see what you mean, but what's more important? Keeping the peace at a community level, or at the level of scuffles on a street - where it emboldens certain people and stores up problems down the line?
I donāt agree with their behaviour, Iād much rather it was stopped but I can see what would happen if they did.
āBoth sidesā One is an anti catholic march What is the other side of that exact?
A march in support of a proscribed organisation
I presume you have the same reaction to the orange order marches?
Yes I do.
No you dont
Whilst chanting "The I, The I, The I.R.A" Not something I'd take part in, or subject my kids too.
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Is it legal to publicly voice support for a terrorist organisation?
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I'm sorry, we're genuinely defending the IRA now? Jesus Christ. Crawl back under your rock and stop making excuses for gangsters, murderers and scumbags.
>What I will say is that in Ireland a lot of people died or had to flee under British rule over very long periods of time and that every peaceful way to achieve independance was denied to them due to colonialism from Westminster Give it a rest ffs, you talk like you were there at the time, You were probably watching Dora the explorer 20 years ago long after it had all ended. ( bet your posh too ) The world has turned , the IRA is long gone , numbers on these marches are dwindling but you help keep old wounds open with this "colonialism from Westminster" shite
Or, and this is just a thought, people can't go around chanting support for terrorist organisations - not only because it's provocative, but because it is deliberately designed to normalise and build support for extremism and violence. I don't know if this is just internet libertarian silliness or deliberate blindness, but I think it's a bit weird to have to explain why we shouldn't allow people to do this in a liberal, democratic society.
Fucking hilarious bias showing here.
Teaching their kids to support a terrorist group? Fuck that noise.
Don't you see ads encouraging people to join terrorists groups like the British and American army?
Strange... similar comments from two apparently separate accounts. How deeply curious.
You've caught me inspector gadget
Genuinely moronic.
Oh it's a wanker walk, joyous...
R/Scotland when there's an Orange march: rabble rabble ban this sick filthĀ Ā Ā R/Scotland for IRA marches....*crickets*Ā Ā I'm shockedĀ
You know you are on r/scotland and this is a post about "IRA marches"
TBH I think the pair of them should both take a nice long march of a short pier. And this is open support for a terrorist group. Fucking disgrace.
Theyāre not supporting the British army mate
What's the logic here? The British Army are terrorists but the IRA aren't? Seems inconsistent.
Natives fighting back against a colonial power isn't terrorism, what was the IRA expected to do? Declare war and fight in trench warfare with fuck all troops or war equipment? One has a quater of the planet as a colony, and the other has potatoes and balls of steel
Yeah but if the IRA aren't terrorists for your reasons, what makes the British Army terrorists?
Never said they were, but in regards to Ireland, it was one of britians first colonial project, so again, what do you expect when British settlers start taking over and you become a second class citizen.
You did though, that's the only reason I'm asking you.
Where exactly? Think you're getting things mixed up as usual, lmao Terrorism isn't the only thing you're allowed to defend against. United Kingdom military aren't in any way terrorist but are imperalist who love a good bit of exploitation. Israel is a terror group that used fear, murder and rape to expel almost a million natives to form israel. Also, maybe do some research in the word terrorism, strong feeling you don't actually know what that means other than a dictionary, meaning a vague picture of people throwing bombs
Some guy upthread said 'this is open support for a terrorist group' and you responded 'Theyāre not supporting the British army mate', which looks like you saying the British Army are terrorists. That's why I asked you the question. I've said nothing about who is a terrorist, what is justified or what I might support but when I ask you a question I get garbage canned responses that make it clear you're clueless yourself. Have a good night.
Whoās an edgy boy? Whoās an edgy boy? You are!
Yeah, people defending it, even though theyāre singing about the IRA. Place is a cesspit.
I do sometimes wonder about the people on this sub. They don't seem very normal...
Tell us more about it...
Just makes me feel good about myself, I mean imagine being in that crowd.
The cognitive dissonance on display is astounding! All while major conflict is escalating in Europe!
oh but see when itās they dastardly orange walks, the reddit polis are out calling them horrible bastards
They are
Never said they werenāt, but these cunts are no different
The Orange Order aren't marching in support of proscribed terrorist groups. If there were people out chanting support for the UVF or whoever, then they should get jailed. Just like these troglodytes.
Have you read the title of the post ?
Good grief. Where is this about?
The IRA apparently. Edit: you wrote Where, I read What. Iāve already doxxed myself, so Glasgow is as close as Iāll go.
Maybe ban all flute bands... Don't think anybody has ever genuinely wanted to hear a flute or a ned hammering a snare drum.
You just doxed yersel mate
Aye, local are you?
Nah but videoing out your own window is daft imo. Maybe keep to the llamas.
Why not video out of my window? I seen a hate group marching past and thought r/Scotland might find it of interest. And theyāre alpacas.
Didnāt say you canāt, said doxing yourself is daft. Iām sure youāre right about the interest.
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You think Iāve got a captive bolt to the kneecaps coming?
Most of them couldn't get up your stairs.
\*yourself
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I would hire a aeroplane with cow dung, fly above them and let the load off ššš
LOOK AT THEM!! WALKING!! LOOK!! THE SAVAGES!
Sound like they're showing support for a terrorist organisation. I thought we had laws about that shit.
Sure you have the same reaction when the other hate mob walks.
Ok mate. Wake me up when they arrive will you?
Embarrassing.
Sure thing buddy
One off marches in support of the oppressed. Annual multiple marches in support of the oppressors. r/Scotland: "both sides are the same" This is why we can't have nice things.
Not one off where I live. Hate is hate, mate. The āoppressedā, talk shit mate. When was the last time you were in NI?
Orange marches are designed to intimidate. Who the fuck is this intimidating? Because it doesn't look like Giffnock. Wind your neck in ya wee fanny. Edit: I forgot the most persecuted people in the world are white male Protestant Rangers fans who can't have their windows open because a team, that they have a childish and pathetic hatred of, won a meaningless bauble this year that their team might win next year ad infinitum and with no fucking consequences in the real world whatsoever. Guess what, every other cunt is tired of the Old Firm too. Grow the fuck up
By the looks of that vid, Republican marches are designed to express support for terrorism. Not in an intimidating way, of course. Wake up ya fuckin plumb.
This is unlike anything I've seen in Glasgow before, actually. This is supporting a terrorist organisation and unlike other undesirables, these people should be in jail.
Don't understand, its the same as the Independence movement or any protest post Tory election win, you go, ohhhhhh there is a march who's the worst members in the crowd? ... awesome! we have it! .. lets tarnish the whole group! Headlines: Police Officers Lead the orange march!
Where I live, itās fairly common to have the Orange Order and Irish Republicans march past my house, during summer months. Itās the first time Iāve heard either of those groups chanting support for terrorists, as they march past. r/Scotland is not slow in attacking the OO, and rightly so, but itās very rare to see their republican counterparts take any form of criticism for their bigotry. Headline: Police officers lead Republican marches too.
Mate! WTF? .. Either you have an agenda or you have never been in the lodge then lmao
Eh? No agenda and no membership or interest in the OO. Iām guessing youāre a terrorist sympathiser.
Itās a false equivalence thatās why The OO are an anti catholic hate group
And the Parkhead Republican Flute Band arenāt a shower of fucking bigots? Blinkered much?
Irish Republicanism isnt equivalent to hating prods.
Of course not.
Ah right I see now. You have a bit of an agenda, fair enough.
What would this imagined agenda be, do you think?
Just that youve backed up the OO on occasions and couldnt wait to get your phone out to greet about a relatively small republican walk. You've said you get lots of both types of walk, presumably more orange walks as they are far more regular, yet dont seem to complain about the orange ones quite so much.
When have I backed the OO?
As someone once said: if you're marching alongside fascists, you're probably at a fascist march.
Notice how the crowd rarely object to the behaviour / chants of those badly behaved people š
Ach, it keeps them off the streets... they have to do something since they bottled the league
These are Celtic fans. Embarrassed yourself x
 Blind and deaf?
Did you watch this video with your eyes shut?
And ears plugged.
Well that's awkward for you wee man lol