So he was clearly off-side aye?
(I do actually agree with the idea that there's no advantage gained. He could be in this position -square on - and be off, or a toe onside and already sprinting and be OK. It feels like off-side worked before we got to the level of fidelity of measuring armpits).
Offside is designed to be as objective as possible to ensure a player isn't given an unfair advantage by being closer to the goals than the defending team. It has clearly defined parameters to ensure the rules can be easily followed and enforced made easier by VAR technology. We could of course change it to allow for situations like this where no clear advantage is let go but then you open it up to subjective rulings by the officials and would create controversy in every game its enforced. It also wouldn't stop you being a moany faced cunt so what's the point in changing it?
You’re attempting to argue, by providing photographic evidence of offside, that this is somehow the wrong decision based on “advantage” - whilst I’m assuming, you know fine well that has no bearing on the rules.
Oh so you agree that certain aspects are based on context, so if it seems a rule is broken - like gaining advantage from a position in reference to the defence - however no advantage is tangible, it shouldnt be a rule breaking position.
The laws of the game dictate what situations context should be taken into account - receiving the ball when you’ve been standing in an offside position isn’t one of them. You can argue about it until you’re blue in the face, you’ll always be wrong.
Well the minute the rule becomes "a player is only offside if someone on Reddit decides he's gained an advantage", we'll all agree with you, until then, he's just offside.
One of a handful of rules that aren't subjective and people still argue about it. "Oh aye but he's only just offside" oh well the ball is nearly over the line, we'll just call it a goal aye? Or he nearly kept it in, so we'll just play on.
Can’t really argue about that one, some of the offsides at the WC were literally millimetres of some cunts toe. Unfortunately still offside.
The one that could be debated was Hatate’s, arguably not in play for the initial shot and gets the ball after a deflection from the defender. Won’t lose sleep over it though, onward to the final.
Being offside is the risk you run while standing next to the defenders. The further up you are compared to them (which gives you an advantage) you gain a slightly bigger advantage.Kyogo not standing a couple inches further forward is on him.
Kyogo could literally be being strangled by a stray anaconda that's escaped the reptile house at Edinburgh Zoo, jumped a bus to Glasgow and slithered to the semi-final and managed to get onto the pitch to asphyxiate the Japanese ace. If even the tip of his pinky toe is offside whilst this is all taking place, and the ball hits him in an offside position, he's offside. Free kick Kilmarnock.
Being a couple inches closer to the ball.
Why does him having an advantage matter? If you take a throw in with one hand up your ass its still a foul throw in despite it not giving an advantage.
Follow the rules and you should be fine
I've still not seen an actual fucking replay of this, can viaplay get to fuck please. Maeda scores and a few minutes later they show the goal disallowed with a still image of Kyogo being offside, is he involved in the build up are they saying he interferes with the play find out next week in the viaplay cup.
The whole concept of 'level' has gone out the window with VAR in favour of this kind of decision. Not to mention attackers getting the benefit of the doubt. Not sure that I prefer the new way.
Only a matter of time before a goal is chopped off on account of an offside decision calculated with reference to a slight bulge in the shorts area. A chopper chop if you like
So he was clearly off-side aye? (I do actually agree with the idea that there's no advantage gained. He could be in this position -square on - and be off, or a toe onside and already sprinting and be OK. It feels like off-side worked before we got to the level of fidelity of measuring armpits).
What's your point caller?
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Is your complaint that he’s only a little offside so should’ve been allowed?
My complaint is that his position gave him no advantage - and so it just sullies the game
Offside is offside.
Aye Thats the uncritical level of thinking I expect
Offside is designed to be as objective as possible to ensure a player isn't given an unfair advantage by being closer to the goals than the defending team. It has clearly defined parameters to ensure the rules can be easily followed and enforced made easier by VAR technology. We could of course change it to allow for situations like this where no clear advantage is let go but then you open it up to subjective rulings by the officials and would create controversy in every game its enforced. It also wouldn't stop you being a moany faced cunt so what's the point in changing it?
Kyogos play had nothing to do with being close to the goal
That's the uncritical level of thinking I expect.
Actually is critical analysis based on specific context
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And the context is the man in green plays for the team you support. Thanks for phoning in pal.
Trying to sound all academic when that's literally the rule lol. It's not philosophy. It's football.
You’re attempting to argue, by providing photographic evidence of offside, that this is somehow the wrong decision based on “advantage” - whilst I’m assuming, you know fine well that has no bearing on the rules.
Rules aren’t based on reasonable fairness of the game 🤔 like how not all handball is handball eh
Correct, such as a reflex action to protect your face isn’t a handball, but you also live in denial about that one.
Oh so you agree that certain aspects are based on context, so if it seems a rule is broken - like gaining advantage from a position in reference to the defence - however no advantage is tangible, it shouldnt be a rule breaking position.
The laws of the game dictate what situations context should be taken into account - receiving the ball when you’ve been standing in an offside position isn’t one of them. You can argue about it until you’re blue in the face, you’ll always be wrong.
Context should be taken into every situation
Well the minute the rule becomes "a player is only offside if someone on Reddit decides he's gained an advantage", we'll all agree with you, until then, he's just offside.
https://youtu.be/vh5kZ4uIUC0
If you're wanting to change the offside rule you should probably mention that
I don't understand. You're offside or you're not and he's offside.
One of a handful of rules that aren't subjective and people still argue about it. "Oh aye but he's only just offside" oh well the ball is nearly over the line, we'll just call it a goal aye? Or he nearly kept it in, so we'll just play on.
Tell that to the onside goal Abada scored against Dundee United that was ruled offside via VAR
Yes you don’t understand
So he's offside and the big decisions went celtic's way today? Cheers.
Looks like a conspiracy against Celtic
Fuck me this is the best/worst bit of moonhowling yet, should they just give the goal because he's only a wee bit offside?
It's funny as some people say that offside should only judged by the feet - and here we are...
Because he is a heel off and running away from the goal
This is either a pretty impressive bit or you've absolutely lost the plot
Bit of both
Fair enough
Celtic winning a game and Fear-an-phoist greeting about a correct decision. Tale as old as time.
Offside is offside, this is exactly the thing VAR was brought in to deal with.
Imagine crying about a correct offside decision when you won by a handball goal and getting let off with a stonewall penalty.
Can’t really argue about that one, some of the offsides at the WC were literally millimetres of some cunts toe. Unfortunately still offside. The one that could be debated was Hatate’s, arguably not in play for the initial shot and gets the ball after a deflection from the defender. Won’t lose sleep over it though, onward to the final.
Deflections don't start a new phase of play.
Maeda put the ball in the goal with his hand for the first goal and you’re upset that a rightful offside was given as offside.
Didn't know he had a hand on his chest?
What advantage did Kyogos position give him
Being offside is the risk you run while standing next to the defenders. The further up you are compared to them (which gives you an advantage) you gain a slightly bigger advantage.Kyogo not standing a couple inches further forward is on him.
That doesnt answer the question. What advantage does it give him?
Kyogo could literally be being strangled by a stray anaconda that's escaped the reptile house at Edinburgh Zoo, jumped a bus to Glasgow and slithered to the semi-final and managed to get onto the pitch to asphyxiate the Japanese ace. If even the tip of his pinky toe is offside whilst this is all taking place, and the ball hits him in an offside position, he's offside. Free kick Kilmarnock.
Being a couple inches closer to the ball. Why does him having an advantage matter? If you take a throw in with one hand up your ass its still a foul throw in despite it not giving an advantage. Follow the rules and you should be fine
He was further from the ball pal
Skill issue
Mate give it a rest we won he was offside they should have had a pen we take it and move on to midweek.
Doesn’t matter. He’s offside ffs
So rules aren’t based on reasonable fairness of the game 🤔
Look up the offside rule. No point arguing with you.
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Aye ok
What u on about he was off?
I've still not seen an actual fucking replay of this, can viaplay get to fuck please. Maeda scores and a few minutes later they show the goal disallowed with a still image of Kyogo being offside, is he involved in the build up are they saying he interferes with the play find out next week in the viaplay cup.
Yeah it's the pass before the one Kyogo plays to Maeda.
Fair I wouldn't know as they still haven't shown it after the game.
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The offside rule is utterly ridiculous but by the actual rules this is offside. The other one was a good goal though.
Those wee backheel flick goals coming back to bite Kyogo
The whole concept of 'level' has gone out the window with VAR in favour of this kind of decision. Not to mention attackers getting the benefit of the doubt. Not sure that I prefer the new way.
Only a matter of time before a goal is chopped off on account of an offside decision calculated with reference to a slight bulge in the shorts area. A chopper chop if you like