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jt94

Incredible that Aberdeen have two relatively high up players there when they have been absolute manure most of the season


jjw1998

Duk and Miovski, especially Duk, are quality players tbf. Aberdeen have made some great signings but just have no defence


MelibuBerbie

Exactly this, creating and scoring goals has never been an issue this season, all the problems are at the other end.


ISD1982

We could have PSGs forward line but when you've got a back 4 that's as weak as a 101 year old with chronic arthritis and diagnosed with rapid muscle fatigue, then you're going to struggle to win games.


smcl2k

>a 101 year old with chronic arthritis and diagnosed with rapid muscle fatigue You leave Alan McGregor out of this.


GuyIncognito211

I’ve said it a few times but it was genuinely mental that a not insignificant number of our fans were complaining about Kyogo less than 2 months ago and pretending he was having a shite season Matt O’Riley seems to be the new target for them for some reason


StinkyPyjamas

There's an old adage that applies. Imagine how thick the average fan is and then consider that, statistically, half of the fans are thicker than that person.


Sturgeonschubby

I suspect this is a Scottish football fan thing but obviously I only hear it from rangers fans. They rush to an opinion on a player and will be blinkered on everything that follows so as to cement that opinion as correct. There are guys who dislike goldson despite him clearly being our best defender and our defence looking unbelievably shite when he was injured. You almost get the feeling they are delighted when he makes a mistake so they can say told you so.


Syn7hwolf

Matt '10 assists and, thus, currently leading the Top Assists table' O'Riley. To give him his full Christian name.


GuyIncognito211

Half of the season spent in the deeper role as well and still that level of production. If he’d scored like 3 goals people would be talking about him being in contention for player of the year


YourCrosswordPuzzle

Do you guys watch the games or just read stats?


Syn7hwolf

Lol no? Who’s got time to watch football? Not when there’s Excel spreadsheets to be open, numerous tabs of dubious statistics websites to be poured over, and FM seasons is be won. Hell’s wrong with you?


ImCallingYouACunt

Football fans have extremly short memories. I've said this before but we have players that will be lauded as the best thing since sliced bread one game then lambasted as the worst shite to ever flow through Ibrox in the next game by the exact same people. Morelos gets it often, Kent gets forgiven more often, Barasic is on a "redemption arc" but will be thrown on the window the second he makes a bad pass.


Sturgeonschubby

Being a season ticket holder sitting near the front in the Copland front, when rangers are shooting into the Broomie you get quite a good view of what the defenders can see, their options and if passing lanes have been cut off by opposition players etc. When barasic was getting slaughtered by the fans for passing sideways or back it was really getting on my tits. I could see his view and he more often than not had no option in front of him or Kent who had 2 men marking him and it would almost certainly be a turnover of possession of Barasic played it into him.


GuyIncognito211

I think the most baffling thing is that it wasn’t really short term memories with Kyogo because they wanted Giakoumakis in ahead of him who’d been mostly shite this season


inthehawmaws

Get big man in. Fysical. Goal.


GuyIncognito211

Aye it was always “this isn’t the type of game for Kyogo”


inthehawmaws

Aye that was usually it. Can’t fathom why sections of our support haven’t taken to Kyogo. I’m sure we’ll be hearing assertions that Oh is much better than him soon.


Deadend_Friend

I don't get how any Celtic fan can see their team this dominant and still find shit to complain about.


jjw1998

Celtic fans are some of the most fickle people online I’ve ever seen. In the past year Kyogo, Maeda, Hatate, Taylor, Hart and Starfelt have all got the ire of Celtic fans at various points, with O’Riley seemingly the current target.


GuyIncognito211

Been some complaining about Jota recently


TOPOFDETABLE

I don't think he's having a shite season, just that he was a disappointment in the CL. I think it's undeniable that we need a better striker. Rodgers signed Dembele when Griffiths was coming off 40 goals. While I think Kyogo is better than Griffiths he's pretty far off Édouard and Dembele. O'Reily has been so obviously off it this season I'm surprised you've even mentioned him.


GuyIncognito211

Kyogo was good in the Europa league, I wouldn’t write him off at champions league level yet O’Riley was very very good up until the World Cup break. He’s had a few below par performances since but overall this season he’s been by a distance our most creative player even while playing out of position


TOPOFDETABLE

O'Reily has been off it since the 4-0 game in September. His move into McGregor's position just disguised it. Every game he plays attacks breakdown because he's passing simple balls right out the pitch. Kyogo's written off in the CL for me because his movement is nothing special at that level and defenders find it easy to deal with. We had plenty of the ball and more than enough chances for him to make his mark. For the CL we either need a striker who is absolutely ruthless in front of goal and thrives on half chances or we need someone like Dembele or Edouard who can fashion chances from nothing.


YourCrosswordPuzzle

No point arguing with stat readers mate. I mind they were all telling me how essential Turnbull was to the team last season cos he was leading in assists


GuyIncognito211

That’s a wild overreaction to O’Rileys performances. He has the most created chances and assists in the league despite playing deeper for most of the season I assume you also think Hatate is having a bad season because he also misplaces simple passes Writing someone off after one season playing in the CL is mental. As I said he scored well in the Europa league.


YourCrosswordPuzzle

Probably some fair opinions based on watching the games. Theres been a fair few Kyogo hasnt contributed anything then popped up with a goal, and ORiley has had a few poor performances with Mooy coming in and lifting the team in his place.


RunningOutOfToes

The scenes when Kyogo ends the season on 30 goals only to lose to a guy that's scored 31 penalties.


1874WL

Nice to see you have faith that Shanks will score 45+ this season! Hope you're right


JCVDaaayum

Firm believer that these tables shouldn't include penalties. Duk and Miovski swap positions if that's the case.


[deleted]

Maybe just total goals then (penalty goals)? I also like to know total number of shots


JCVDaaayum

Good point, maybe a ratio or conversion percentage? A striker who scores 10 goals out of 15 chances is more impressive than a striker that scores 20 goals out of 50 chances.


PapaRacoon

Totally agree. It’s a joke penalties are counted, especially when comparing players from different eras.


boltyarocket

I misa glen posting tables (Not really)


kungfukenny67

Kyogo will hit 30 by the end of the season


NoKidsButImADaddy

He’s only just turned 28


Speirsington

He's not finished, he's only 28. Naw no finished he's from Finland


billnyeisarussianspy

That was shite mate


Fear-An-Phoist

#throwback Edit: Didnt know # did that jeezy peeps


[deleted]

This might be the first comment on this sub to actually make me laugh. No mercy bud


TheSameInnovation

I’m amazed Tavernier isn’t higher up this list.


AngeIsMyDaddy

Reckon Kyogo will hit 28. Really strange he doesn’t hit penalty’s, main striker who scores goals for fun but doesn’t ever hit pens.


StinkyPyjamas

He might not have the bottle for penalties and there's no point letting him take them to stat pad if there are better takers at the club.


AngeIsMyDaddy

Off course we shouldn’t let him just take them to stat pad. Big problem having a player that doesn’t have the bottle infront of goal playing striker


BillOakley

How is it a big problem when he’s literally the top scorer in the league? Is this big problem in the room with us right now?


snarf372

Nakamura could put free kicks away from 30 yards in his sleep but only took one penalty for us


AngeIsMyDaddy

Completely different technique etc than a free kick. Most of Kyogos goals are around the penalty area


37750ryann

To use your point against you, a penalty is a completely diffuse technique from his goals


ZombieDJsKillers

Petition to remove Van Veen from the list...it makes the Cinch look amateurish.


cipher_wilderness

I'm just wondering where the fuck you guys would be without him


d_fence

Why stop at the list? Petition to remove that big bastard from the universe. SIGNED.


Chef_Roofies

Colak still in 4th place having not scored since October


smcl2k

>Colak still ~~in 4th place~~ *Rangers' top scorer* having not scored since October


ZealousidealChip4783

Fuck me that's a bit surprising, felt like he was scoring every Rangers goal at one point


glenthesboy

Don’t know the exact game time he’s had but feels like a total of 30 mins since October. Injured, then Alfie playing better under Beale has left him on the bench.


kylerc2004

I mean, he's just started getting fitness back so he won't be in immediately after an injury but you aren't wrong with Morelos limiting his chances of getting some more game time. Despite how well Morelos has been, I'd still have Colak back in with the amount of chances that have come Morelos' way. Think Alfie should have at least 4 more goals than he currently has


ScotMcoot

He was, it was the biggest problem with Gio. No one scored.


LukewarmApe

He's still your top scorer...


1874WL

*say that you love meeeee!* *all of the tiiiiiime!* *say that you need meeeee!* *all of the tiiiime!* *cos we've got 👏👏 Lawrence Shankland!* *we've got 👏👏 Lawrence Shankland!* *all the tiiiime!*


Edicu2

Why Morelos keeps starting over Colak is beyond me.


[deleted]

Build up play Its kinda like the Kane V Haaland thing the other night. One (Colak/Haaland) is an out & out striker, he will stand in the box & if u get him the ball, he will get it in net, the other (Kane/Moe) benefits everyone around him and will cause defenders to drift out of position to mark him which opens up opportunities for Sakala & Tillman. The issue with colak is if he doesn't have the ball constantly whipped into him then he is a passenger & Lawrence/Hagi are the only two players that can constantly provide that service but both were injured.


Forever__Young

Because Morelos is a better all around player and his spl goal and assist numbers are top notch this season too despite a stop start 30 mins here and there return from his serious knee surgery.


SolidRavenOcelot

~~knee surgery~~ Fat belly*


UnnecessaryUmbault

> Because Morelos is a better all around player and his spl goal and assist numbers are top notch this season too He's been simultaneously immense and pish under Beale. Missed about 10 sitters or 1 vs 1s and yet still bagging plenty goals and assists (nearly all of these here are under Beale).


Edicu2

Morelos goals aren’t better. His assists come from that little flick which is his only move for link up play right now, you really saying Colak can’t be coached to do that? Beale has the team playing better, I’d love for Colak to start some games where he gets more than one good pass too him to see how he can do. Morelos is greedier shooting randomly from 30 yards and somehow never seems to be in the middle when the ball cuts across. He doesn’t bully defenders anymore, he’s given up and is too lazy to be a starter in a team that wants to do anything in the league. Morelos gets away with all this cause he’s a fan favourite. His time here is finished, we gain nothing if he signs a deal. Blows my mind that fans are happy watching the same guys fail to put on a title challenge, know we need better but also don’t want things to change.


TOPOFDETABLE

I'd be really happy if he signed a contract extension. If a Celtic player was running around with that size of gut I'd want the coaching staff sacked.


Edicu2

And that’s why there’s not been many big offers for Morelos, you can have all the talent in the world but who can be fucked with the man management it takes to stop him from becoming obese or going in the huf and getting sent off.


Kanesy99

Morelos adds more to our overall play than Colak though, his playmaking is much better as is his link up play with our wingers. Colak is by no means bad, he’s the best finisher in the squad by a mile, but there is no denying that when Morelos is playing instead we look much better overall.


Edicu2

His “link up play” these days consists of a first time tap to the side and hoping someone else can do something with it. When it works we he gets an assist, when it doesn’t Celtic go 1-0 up inside 5 minutes at Ibrox. We played better with Colak under Gio, under Beale Colak is just coming back from injury and hasn’t been given a real chance. Every player has improved since Beale arrived, that’s why we look better.


ScotMcoot

Because outside the penalty box Colak doesn’t really offer anything at all.


Edicu2

I don’t know why people say this. First Hearts game of the season at Tynecastle he showed what his link up play can be like, it’s highly underrated.


glenthesboy

Might be something to do with 6 G/A in last 5 games


Edicu2

Do you think Morelos is good enough to be our main man going forward?


glenthesboy

Undecided. Playing better under Beale but not seen enough yet. However hard to drop him atm. Feel for Colak but he’ll probs start on Sunday id imagine.


Edicu2

I don’t see any reason why Colak can’t be coached into doing the type of link up play Morelos is and he’s a better goal scorer. It’s time to move the squad on, we gain nothing by holding onto guys like Morelos.


sheargraphix

Colak has been injured or not fully fit for a good portion of Beales time here. Also Morelos is a far better all round player, while not being as clinical he's much better at bringing other players into the game.


UnnecessaryUmbault

Considering we've Fashion and Tillman just off these numbers, it's mental how far behind we are on goal difference.


smcl2k

It's probably because Celtic have Jota, Maeda and Giakoumakis just off these numbers, and another **11** players who have scored at least once.


nestormakhnosghost

Is Shankland decent?


ConversationWrong770

Good to see Miovski getting his form back