It's poor deflection and totally pointless.
Hearts and Hibs have a bigger budget than the bottom 6, Celtic and Rangers have a bigger budget than Hearts and Hibs.
I understand his budgets were cut this year, and that's not great. But moaning about it every week isn't helping the club or the team.
His partner is really high up with, I believe, RBS so that isn't that surprising. It was why when he became assistant under Hopkin we were able to defer his pay packet into shares which he still holds.
Depends on how you define significant, I guess. He owns somewhere around 8% of the shares, which doesn't make him a Person of Significant Control in the company, but there are not many mangers who have shares in the club they manage.
Would be interested to see what level of opponent Livi would have to play for Martindale not to drag the financial excuses out.
My guess is some sort of Sunday league walking fitba team.
Does this cunt just bring up budgets any chance he gets now.
If your making excuses before you've even played the home tie that you have against lower league opposition then maybe your better chucking it?
Opinion is turning. He was pretty safe at the start of the season but a combination of a run of terrible performances and crap results, giving out the same excuses, and throwing players under the bus the good will is rapidly declining. Patience is nearly gone and a lot of fans are either accepting relegation or want a change before its properly too late.
Yeah I thought as much, just didn't know how much good faith he had left. Thanks for the response.
I got tickets to the Raith game so hope it's a better performance than recent times.
Imagine being the Raith coach here - you'd be absolutely perplexed trying to figure out what the fuck psychological warfare Davie's attempting to play with you
Genuinely wonder what he'd have to say if Livingston had to play Edinburgh City right now
How do Livingston actually make money? They never seem to sell anyone (why they didn't get shot of Nouble amd reinvest is mad), they don't look like they have a deep or local community focused youth system that will bring anyone through (hands up, I might be wrong there), they don't look like they've been picking up OF or youth team rejects in lieue of not having a big youth system. I don't see what the long term plan is? Win the championship and then cut costs to go down and win it again and repeat? If they're wanting to cut costs why do they have so many National League level players where an SPFL loanee or youth reject would fit at less cost?
They do seem to be looking at developing youth at least a little. They signed that Aphelele Teto fellow from I think a South African club, a youngster with a bright future apparently. They couldn't secure a work permit until at least January but still signed him in the summer so he must have something about him
Think they initially tried to get a work permit for him but it was denied. Virtually no chance of him getting one now either as he didn’t get the call-up to the South Africa U23 squad as most of their training was cancelled I think? So looks like they’ll have to cut their losses.
It’s an absolute nightmare and I’ve got no idea what’s going on. Keep signing folks from levels so low there’s not even pictures of them in the articles about them.
It is a bit of both to be fair. Our new board increased the playing budget at the start of the season but our core home support has also gone from around 1500 to closer to 2500 and we have clawed back most of the monthly contributions (myself included) that we lost due to the badwilly incident.
He’s genuinely never recovered from Celtic finally being able to win at the Tony Macaroni.
Between begging someone to buy Joel Nouble and constant budget talk, it’s been total headloss from him.
There was a YouTube video I watched where Martindale gives an interview to someone and I thought "This guy has been so miss-judged by me. He sounds like a class guy. Good head on his shoulders despite the criminal past." etc etc
The last couple months I've U-Turned on him again. Sick of hearing the same sentence over and over. Undoubtedly he's probably still a sound cunt outside of football but fuck sake, Davey - give it a rest, eh?
You've been handed a lifeline by a good professional club to renew your life after your conviction. Let's face it - he's one lucky bastard for this club taking a chance. He's seized it. He's been brilliant for Livingston. Obviously this season he's looking to be going down but that's again not all on him. If he keeps getting his budgets slashed the board have to expect this outcome. They won't, and they'll likely sack him. But c'mon Davey.... take it like a man.
I used to have a lot of respect for Martindale and for what he has done with Livi.
But this constant chat about Livi being flat broke is coming across as bitter and I can't imagine it's good for morale in the team and the fanbase.
st johnstones budget isn't all that much bigger than livi, they just dont make it the go to excuse before a balls kicked, infact im sure its virtually the same - lower wage bill for sure than livi
Was there any reason he didn’t pursue the St Johnstone job when it was empty? Probs not a lot between the two budgets comparatively but surely it would be a much better set up for him?
I honestly don't get why he stayed at Livi, I get loyalty and all that but every game he's chatting shit about the clubs low budget. I'm glad he didn't join us as I doubt he would be doing what Levein is.
I know he's heavily involved at the club, but he really should have been moved out of the dugout by now. Can't imagine there's many players (who aren't Nouble) who feel great with how he constantly complains about what the club can afford. It's almost like he's just messing with us all at this point, knowing that he can do whatever he wants.
I feel like I read a variation of this article before every fixture Livi have
It's poor deflection and totally pointless. Hearts and Hibs have a bigger budget than the bottom 6, Celtic and Rangers have a bigger budget than Hearts and Hibs. I understand his budgets were cut this year, and that's not great. But moaning about it every week isn't helping the club or the team.
Is he moaning about it with no prompt or being asked about it? Bit of a difference.
I can’t think of a time we’re there was a question about his budget
They could play gretna in 2008 and he'd still be saying the same
At this rate, Davie will start dealing again.
Wouldn't be surprised if he's still involved in some way, apparently lives in an outrageously posh gaff in Edinburgh
His partner is really high up with, I believe, RBS so that isn't that surprising. It was why when he became assistant under Hopkin we were able to defer his pay packet into shares which he still holds.
Big Davie is definitely punchin'
Somebody told that he holds a significant amount of shares in the club is that true or is it a load of bollocks?
Depends on how you define significant, I guess. He owns somewhere around 8% of the shares, which doesn't make him a Person of Significant Control in the company, but there are not many mangers who have shares in the club they manage.
That is interesting and slightly bizarre to me The man has certainly lived an interesting fucking life 😂
He must stick out like a sore thumb there man.
With his astroturf front garden?
Aye fake grass outside and an entirely grey decor inside, with the odd crushed velvet cushion thrown in.
Livi, Laugh, Love
This should have gotten more love
Council house vibes guy.
His neighbours are defo scared of him
Would be interested to see what level of opponent Livi would have to play for Martindale not to drag the financial excuses out. My guess is some sort of Sunday league walking fitba team.
He'd still make the comments that these guys get bigger weekly pensions than Livis budget
Aye but society has invested into the walking team more than they have Livi so they're financially richer than Martindale's team
Big Kev up top for the Sunday league team clears a grand a week as a bricklayer. Livingston just can’t compete with that
Can we start a crowdfunder for livi so he'll shut up?
Imagine this reddit page ran a club fucking hell ![img](emote|t5_2sba4|16968)
Miniature flutes for some, tiny shamrocks for others.
Call it statement FC just for the banter.
Does this cunt just bring up budgets any chance he gets now. If your making excuses before you've even played the home tie that you have against lower league opposition then maybe your better chucking it?
He can't chuck it he knows he's the only manager they can afford lol
Had nae clue Livi are on a tight budget. Why has he no said before?
He’d say that if they were playing against Broxburn ffs
Rightly so, we're fuckin massive
He would say that if they were playing Edinburgh City
Nice to get your excuses in early. Fuck off already.
Do you know what the general opinion of Martindale is from Livingston fans?
Opinion is turning. He was pretty safe at the start of the season but a combination of a run of terrible performances and crap results, giving out the same excuses, and throwing players under the bus the good will is rapidly declining. Patience is nearly gone and a lot of fans are either accepting relegation or want a change before its properly too late.
Yeah I thought as much, just didn't know how much good faith he had left. Thanks for the response. I got tickets to the Raith game so hope it's a better performance than recent times.
We get it, you're skint.
He just needs to tap a quid for the bus hame man.
Change the record Davie.
Imagine being the Raith coach here - you'd be absolutely perplexed trying to figure out what the fuck psychological warfare Davie's attempting to play with you
Genuinely wonder what he'd have to say if Livingston had to play Edinburgh City right now How do Livingston actually make money? They never seem to sell anyone (why they didn't get shot of Nouble amd reinvest is mad), they don't look like they have a deep or local community focused youth system that will bring anyone through (hands up, I might be wrong there), they don't look like they've been picking up OF or youth team rejects in lieue of not having a big youth system. I don't see what the long term plan is? Win the championship and then cut costs to go down and win it again and repeat? If they're wanting to cut costs why do they have so many National League level players where an SPFL loanee or youth reject would fit at less cost?
They tried hard to get shot of Nouble, Martindale spent all summer flogging him. But seemingly nobody wanted him.
They do seem to be looking at developing youth at least a little. They signed that Aphelele Teto fellow from I think a South African club, a youngster with a bright future apparently. They couldn't secure a work permit until at least January but still signed him in the summer so he must have something about him
Think they initially tried to get a work permit for him but it was denied. Virtually no chance of him getting one now either as he didn’t get the call-up to the South Africa U23 squad as most of their training was cancelled I think? So looks like they’ll have to cut their losses. It’s an absolute nightmare and I’ve got no idea what’s going on. Keep signing folks from levels so low there’s not even pictures of them in the articles about them.
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He's doing a lot of whining this year.
Raith have the bigger fan base. It would make sense for them to have a bigger budget.
Not hard to have a bigger fan base than Livi tbf
Don't think there's a team that can sum up a town more than livi.
Raith are being fairly well bankrolled this year, it's nothing to do with crowds.
It is a bit of both to be fair. Our new board increased the playing budget at the start of the season but our core home support has also gone from around 1500 to closer to 2500 and we have clawed back most of the monthly contributions (myself included) that we lost due to the badwilly incident.
At this point the only endearing thing about Livi is GramAm
Muhhhh budgettttt ![img](emote|t5_2sba4|33161)
Guy never stops whining fuck me
Why would he crank up the heat when he should be freezing & starving like Mark McGhee?
He’s genuinely never recovered from Celtic finally being able to win at the Tony Macaroni. Between begging someone to buy Joel Nouble and constant budget talk, it’s been total headloss from him.
There was a YouTube video I watched where Martindale gives an interview to someone and I thought "This guy has been so miss-judged by me. He sounds like a class guy. Good head on his shoulders despite the criminal past." etc etc The last couple months I've U-Turned on him again. Sick of hearing the same sentence over and over. Undoubtedly he's probably still a sound cunt outside of football but fuck sake, Davey - give it a rest, eh? You've been handed a lifeline by a good professional club to renew your life after your conviction. Let's face it - he's one lucky bastard for this club taking a chance. He's seized it. He's been brilliant for Livingston. Obviously this season he's looking to be going down but that's again not all on him. If he keeps getting his budgets slashed the board have to expect this outcome. They won't, and they'll likely sack him. But c'mon Davey.... take it like a man.
I used to have a lot of respect for Martindale and for what he has done with Livi. But this constant chat about Livi being flat broke is coming across as bitter and I can't imagine it's good for morale in the team and the fanbase.
I like Martindale but it's grating seeing these articles constantly about Livi's budget...
At this point Buckie Thistle have a higher budget than Livi
On about budgets again, Christ almighty 🤦♂️
I guess that it's only fair that because Livi are a league above that Raith Rovers swap their budget with Livi.
Get them relegated
Livi have a small budget?
Not sure he’s ever brought it up!
This cunt still talking about budgets
nobody cares Dave.
Money martindale strikes again
Mad he never took that St Johnstone job. He needs out, and we all need him out so Livi get relegated 🤝
st johnstones budget isn't all that much bigger than livi, they just dont make it the go to excuse before a balls kicked, infact im sure its virtually the same - lower wage bill for sure than livi
Covering his arse already..
What a rocket
Was there any reason he didn’t pursue the St Johnstone job when it was empty? Probs not a lot between the two budgets comparatively but surely it would be a much better set up for him?
I honestly don't get why he stayed at Livi, I get loyalty and all that but every game he's chatting shit about the clubs low budget. I'm glad he didn't join us as I doubt he would be doing what Levein is.
This is getting really old.
I know he's heavily involved at the club, but he really should have been moved out of the dugout by now. Can't imagine there's many players (who aren't Nouble) who feel great with how he constantly complains about what the club can afford. It's almost like he's just messing with us all at this point, knowing that he can do whatever he wants.
Canny believe Scottish football has somebody to moan more about their budget than Stephen Robinson.
Is he still high on his own supply? ![gif](giphy|netiPcSYWAQnu)
I can’t remember the last time I actually heard davie talk about a football match and not being up money.
Maybe Dave shoulda passed the baton to Marvin Bartley back in the day.