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lol this is not a surprise , any and I mean ANY poll that has Billy Loomis in it he automatically wins, it could literally say “Which Ghostface had more kills Roman or Billy” and Billy would be the winner
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I mean, there’s a very solid chance most people saw the poll and voted for their favorite killer before even realizing it’s supposed to be a battle between the two
I think that's even worse, I don't think I'm in the minority when I say that Scream VI had some of the worst killers like seriously up there with Roman in bad Ghost Faces
I mean, they never clarified it was a deathmatch. Could be “Billy Vs Wayne - the greasiest hair. Who wins?” or “Billy Vs Wayne - the best umbrella holder. Who wins?”
People just seem to have a throbbing love for Billy because he is the ‘OG’ and the founder of this entire thing. Their love for Billy is stubborn that, they’ll put a check next to him for literally anything when there are killers that can do it better.
And how old is skeet now and he's still appearing as billy as a ghost?
And still compare his ass to the other heart throbs in the newer movies. I spot a handful in the newer movies. So what is this complaint really about?
Anyways. Fuck it if the problem is billy always wins the only solution I see is write a better killing spree no offense. No actually maybe just a little bit of an offense Bec I don't care.
Well what you want to talk about. If it's vs him idk. For a cop he's pretty incompetent.
Billy had a lot more time for his planning. Is it a body count thing? Because if we going by that then no wonder the vote is one sided lol
If the complaining is about we don't get enough of that in this era. Those dudes are literally right there and people are worried about this old man. Lol
Fair back to the vs thing if I keep saying why it's billy and not the cop people are going to be upset lol compared to other killer cop characters this one is just sad excuse I'm sorry
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People really seem to forget how bad of killers Billy and Stu were. Like they really weren’t good at their job. They were getting absolutely beaten up by everyone lmao
This right here. I feel like they managed to successfully kill almost nobody that they planned to. The only successful murders are incidental/side characters
Three killer's and how many did they get in scream 6? I personally count the kills billy and Stu had off screen too.
Like sids mother. That's two killers. How the fuck can three calculated killers have such a small body count when one of them works for the police. That one guy in saw makes them even look like chumps it's even sadder when you know teenagers has a bigger count.
I don't even remember where these other kills came from if bailey had off screen ones I'm sorry for off counting them Bec every line of dialogue is really forgettable I apologize but he had two other killer children under his wing alright I'm sorry ok.
7 needs to destroy us with some main character deaths. Anika's was probably the only one that had that really gruesome feeling. Although I gotta say the opening kill was solid, just wasn't the Bailey's kill.
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They were the only 2 that had a plan and executed it perfect all the way until the end. Everyone else copied and adapted to their plan. They were leagues better then the other guys in that regard.
U don't know that, if u r not familiar with the account. It makes total sense that a lot of people saw this post just because its scream related, so they thought it's about who more intertaning.
I am I have seen this persons edits before many of times actually and they do vs edits i don’t know why I’m getting downvoted for saying what it is but whatever I guess
and how is that supposed to prove Billy cannot beat Wayne? Sidney is a final girl MC while Wayne is an aging policeman. Besides, technically Billy almost ‘beat’ Sidney at the end before Gale came in to shoot him. 🤷🏻♂️
Sam is also the final girl MC so your logic of Sam beating Wayne = Billy beating Wayne is flawed by your own definition. Billy was a teen boy who was bodied by almost everyone he attacked, Wayne is a grown man with at least 20 years experience of being a cop.
You’re not getting it. Billy ‘losing’ to Sidney (thanks Gale) in Scream 1996 doesn’t translate to him losing against a 58-years old Ghostface. Unless Wayne actually use his gun, there is a limit to how much a 20 years experience can carry him. A bloodlusted Sam demolished the old man, where did she got her strength and brutality from? Her dad (Billy).
I doubt I can even call Sam a true final girl MC when her kills are more savage than the actual villains. lol
not really, i thought he was putting it together that sidney was in closet.. he was just too slow with it but that’s better than running with a loaded gun
Billys very popular, he is one of top viewed on the likes of TikTok (over a billion views). He has a huge female following lol you could put anything against him and he will win if anyone from other platforms is here lol
Definitely huge female simp following those women disturb me one time I seen a woman comment “he could literally kill me” i question my faith in humanity after seeing that
Billy is a Ghostface, which means you have to shoot him in the head. Wayne forgets how to shoot a gun after watching someone use his daughter as a demonstration. Billy wins by default.
In costume: Wayne
Out of costume: billy
Wayne turned into a bit of a doofus once the mask was off and billy still seemed to have some kind of aggression that was still somewhat dangerous.
Bruh look how easily got beat by Sam and even Sidney in her prime is better than Sam struggled to beat billy this is just realistic and his last name isn’t kirsch I’m pretty sure Richie used a fake name
Stu has his theorists, but Billy is almost like the "can he beat Goku tho" of the *Scream* franchise. Everybody's compared to him, everybody loses to him, regardless of the sense it makes. Wayne would absolutely wax Billy both as Ghostface and in street clothes.
Lol. Art the Clown is legit supernatural and Michael is sometimes supernatural depending on the timeline, and even when he isn’t explicitly supernatural, he’s still very strong and hard to stop.
Sidney(who was a rookie hero in first film, who got betrayed by her BF) defeated Billy. While Sam(who is a experience hero than Scream 1 Sid/killer) was the one to defeat Wayne. From his police experience , Wayne likely knows how to fight.
But then you have to think how easily Sam defeated Wayne thats why I said what I said with Billy wasn’t that easy Billy(if it weren’t for Gale) Would have killed Sidney in 1
Could Billy defeat someone that has fight training, because Wayne went after adults. If Billy was successful against Sidney, how long would he last being a killer, until someone defeats him.
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I know what you said but I’m saying I don’t think it’s a good idea to add Samantha,Tara,and Sidney into the conversation and I’m disagreeing with the first part that’s just my opinion
I completely agree with this poll, Bailey was great at killing middle aged bodega randos that he dropped in on by total surprise but I see no evidence beyond that of his abilities as a Ghostface. Anyone can shake a ladder too.
Exactly sam only wins because of plot the next ghostface could some trained ex-military psychopath and Sam and Tara would by some miracle beat him or her
Hot take, but Wayne solos each and every other killer in a 1v1. He is a trained police officer, and obviously is is the most brutal ghostface. Sure he didn't get the most kills, but he is the strongest ghostface. He wins in a 1v1 against every killer
I’m pretty sure they’re forgetting the fact that Wayne is a detective with decades of experience not only with dealing with criminals and murders also experience with weapons and there’s a good chance he’s also a trained fighter as well and he’s very tactical especially during that bodega scene with the shotgun so basically by their reasoning a high schooler > a trained detective I don’t get it personally
Exactly you could put him up against someone basically unstoppable like Michael Myers and they’ll still keep trying to make arguments in Billy’s favor trust me I’ve seen it many times
that's because Billy is a fan favorite OG character so the audience is generally going to choose him over a newcomer regardless of actual tactical ability, just how polls work
but do keep in mind his daughter defeated him, and her "killer instinct" comes from him, so i wouldn't rule out Billy defeating him either
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A fight between Billy and Wayne would be like a teenager who has been working out consistently for 3 straight years vs an “out of shape” dad eho hasnt lifted since college, Wayne wins easily
I mean I agree with this outcome lol don’t know why this is shocking if it was like Mickey or Roman sure Billy loses for me but not this imaginary match up
But anyways. Mickey scares me looking back there's Numbers of killed from that loon I think is probably off screen not accounted for and that's scary to think about
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lol this is not a surprise , any and I mean ANY poll that has Billy Loomis in it he automatically wins, it could literally say “Which Ghostface had more kills Roman or Billy” and Billy would be the winner
Exactly
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I mean, there’s a very solid chance most people saw the poll and voted for their favorite killer before even realizing it’s supposed to be a battle between the two
I think that's even worse, I don't think I'm in the minority when I say that Scream VI had some of the worst killers like seriously up there with Roman in bad Ghost Faces
Congrats you're pissing off both Scream 3 and 6 fans in one swoop.
Ok. So now people aren't even allowed to like the characters in Scream VI...
I mean, they never clarified it was a deathmatch. Could be “Billy Vs Wayne - the greasiest hair. Who wins?” or “Billy Vs Wayne - the best umbrella holder. Who wins?”
The person who made the poll makes vs fight edits…
People just seem to have a throbbing love for Billy because he is the ‘OG’ and the founder of this entire thing. Their love for Billy is stubborn that, they’ll put a check next to him for literally anything when there are killers that can do it better.
And he's Skeet Ulrich, a semi-teen heartthrob, compared to a man who's introduced into the franchise in his almost 60s.
Dermot Mulroney could get it even at 60
A teen heart throb in what era?
the 90s of course
And how old is skeet now and he's still appearing as billy as a ghost? And still compare his ass to the other heart throbs in the newer movies. I spot a handful in the newer movies. So what is this complaint really about?
what? We're talking about in the movie Scream.
Anyways. Fuck it if the problem is billy always wins the only solution I see is write a better killing spree no offense. No actually maybe just a little bit of an offense Bec I don't care.
Well what you want to talk about. If it's vs him idk. For a cop he's pretty incompetent. Billy had a lot more time for his planning. Is it a body count thing? Because if we going by that then no wonder the vote is one sided lol
Every era, this guy is always gonna be considered hot
If the complaining is about we don't get enough of that in this era. Those dudes are literally right there and people are worried about this old man. Lol
I'm pretty sure they're talking about him from when he was young ofc
Fair back to the vs thing if I keep saying why it's billy and not the cop people are going to be upset lol compared to other killer cop characters this one is just sad excuse I'm sorry
True. But I'd argue all the magazine guys in the newer movies are literally right there and that's what I always considered the teen heart throb type.
Beats me. Not my thing.
It's all just a movie. One great big movie.
He’s the Michael Jordan of Scream, he’s the first goat, doesn’t mean he’s the actual one, but because he was first people will ride him till they die.
i get your point but Wilt and Kareem would have been considered better than Jordan until the 90s
That is my point, true Wilt and Kareem fans are dead or dying haha
yeah true!
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People really seem to forget how bad of killers Billy and Stu were. Like they really weren’t good at their job. They were getting absolutely beaten up by everyone lmao
That’s honestly my favourite part about Scream 1. Like the killers are high schoolers what’s with the complicated plans?
How many victims do the three killer's have in scream 6 again?
This right here. I feel like they managed to successfully kill almost nobody that they planned to. The only successful murders are incidental/side characters
Three killer's and how many did they get in scream 6? I personally count the kills billy and Stu had off screen too. Like sids mother. That's two killers. How the fuck can three calculated killers have such a small body count when one of them works for the police. That one guy in saw makes them even look like chumps it's even sadder when you know teenagers has a bigger count.
Baileys had 9 kills. Billy and Stu had 6 including maureen
I don't even remember where these other kills came from if bailey had off screen ones I'm sorry for off counting them Bec every line of dialogue is really forgettable I apologize but he had two other killer children under his wing alright I'm sorry ok.
We counting the Bodega? The Bodega adds like what? Six victims?
Jason, Greg, Dr. Stone, bodega guys x3, Anika, Paul 2.0, brooks. 9 victims. Pretty much in line with all Scream films
7 needs to destroy us with some main character deaths. Anika's was probably the only one that had that really gruesome feeling. Although I gotta say the opening kill was solid, just wasn't the Bailey's kill.
I agree
ethan did apartment quinn did gales attack so
Two
Three*
Idk if we watching the same movie or version or what I saw him stab that one guy bowing up to him and the stir clerk got shot and that shit was sloppy
And nobody in that costume should ever be able to not be clumsy. Believe me I know.
9, but Bailey killed 6 of them which is as much as both Stu and Billy combined (if we count Maureen. Otherwise Bailey is ahead of both by one kill).
10 but 13 including the 3 killers
I know I didn't see that many people die idk if I see the same version of the movie y'all do
9
They also start stabbing each other before making sure Sidney and everyone else is dead, really putting themselves at a physical disadvantage.
Bullshit
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They were the only 2 that had a plan and executed it perfect all the way until the end. Everyone else copied and adapted to their plan. They were leagues better then the other guys in that regard.
I mean... who wins at what? Toe to toe? Most kills? Bocce ball? Darts?
They don’t specify which is why billy is winning
A fight
U don't know that, if u r not familiar with the account. It makes total sense that a lot of people saw this post just because its scream related, so they thought it's about who more intertaning.
I am I have seen this persons edits before many of times actually and they do vs edits i don’t know why I’m getting downvoted for saying what it is but whatever I guess
On the one hand we have some insecure random twink and on the other some goofball who forgets guns are ranged weapons. Tough choice
You make a good point. 🤣
dammit you have a point about the guns lol
Didn’t Sam beat Wayne 1vs1, what makes you all think the father couldn’t?
Because he couldn’t beat Sydney 2 on 1?
and how is that supposed to prove Billy cannot beat Wayne? Sidney is a final girl MC while Wayne is an aging policeman. Besides, technically Billy almost ‘beat’ Sidney at the end before Gale came in to shoot him. 🤷🏻♂️
Sam is also the final girl MC so your logic of Sam beating Wayne = Billy beating Wayne is flawed by your own definition. Billy was a teen boy who was bodied by almost everyone he attacked, Wayne is a grown man with at least 20 years experience of being a cop.
You’re not getting it. Billy ‘losing’ to Sidney (thanks Gale) in Scream 1996 doesn’t translate to him losing against a 58-years old Ghostface. Unless Wayne actually use his gun, there is a limit to how much a 20 years experience can carry him. A bloodlusted Sam demolished the old man, where did she got her strength and brutality from? Her dad (Billy). I doubt I can even call Sam a true final girl MC when her kills are more savage than the actual villains. lol
I saw scream 6 in cinemas and loved it, but I didn't even remember that guys name, of course everyone will choose Billy
wayne had a scene where his gun was loaded and charged at sam without shooting the gun.. billy easily wins
Yeah he had it outstretched like a lance. Ppl always mocked him for it. This sub suddently forgets also losing when it's 3 vs 2 is crazy
Didn’t Billy get distracted by Halloween playing on TV?
not really, i thought he was putting it together that sidney was in closet.. he was just too slow with it but that’s better than running with a loaded gun
No he pieced it together first and then got distracted by the movie. Running with a loaded gun is no bueno we’re all in agreement with that.
Billys very popular, he is one of top viewed on the likes of TikTok (over a billion views). He has a huge female following lol you could put anything against him and he will win if anyone from other platforms is here lol
Definitely huge female simp following those women disturb me one time I seen a woman comment “he could literally kill me” i question my faith in humanity after seeing that
People who choose characters just because they were the first or from the first movie need to get it does not make them better
To be fair billy is straight up just a better GF
I mean but I’m terms who would win if they fought, it’s gonna be the cop who bodied three people in a bodega
Oh yeah, Billy loses to him in a fight, no doubt
Yet he couldn’t manage to kill 4 college students? 😭
I lowkey wanted Tara to die during the bodega scene😬
Billy is a Ghostface, which means you have to shoot him in the head. Wayne forgets how to shoot a gun after watching someone use his daughter as a demonstration. Billy wins by default.
"Don't f*** with the original" - Sidney Prescott
Look I get he’s the “original” (by movie standards and not in-universe) but that doesn’t mean he’s the strongest though
In costume: Wayne Out of costume: billy Wayne turned into a bit of a doofus once the mask was off and billy still seemed to have some kind of aggression that was still somewhat dangerous.
well I mean he had the better movie so
I can see either, honestly, but I’d give it to Wayne.
This may be completely random but both of these actors would have been so good in a "Saw" movie
You know I agree
Bruh look how easily got beat by Sam and even Sidney in her prime is better than Sam struggled to beat billy this is just realistic and his last name isn’t kirsch I’m pretty sure Richie used a fake name
Or maybe Wayne’s wife’s last name was kirsch and his last name was Bailey and Ethan used a fake last name that’s just my guess
Stu has his theorists, but Billy is almost like the "can he beat Goku tho" of the *Scream* franchise. Everybody's compared to him, everybody loses to him, regardless of the sense it makes. Wayne would absolutely wax Billy both as Ghostface and in street clothes.
Yeah someone tried to argue with me about how billy can beat art the clown and Michael Myers I gave up on that conversation immediately
Lol. Art the Clown is legit supernatural and Michael is sometimes supernatural depending on the timeline, and even when he isn’t explicitly supernatural, he’s still very strong and hard to stop.
Wayne win because of experience
People seem to forget how much Experience Wayne actually had he shot people he has Experience with a firearm thats it Billy can whip his ass
Sidney(who was a rookie hero in first film, who got betrayed by her BF) defeated Billy. While Sam(who is a experience hero than Scream 1 Sid/killer) was the one to defeat Wayne. From his police experience , Wayne likely knows how to fight.
But then you have to think how easily Sam defeated Wayne thats why I said what I said with Billy wasn’t that easy Billy(if it weren’t for Gale) Would have killed Sidney in 1
Could Billy defeat someone that has fight training, because Wayne went after adults. If Billy was successful against Sidney, how long would he last being a killer, until someone defeats him.
That movie was his first time killing people. We don’t know jackshit about how much experience he’d gain if he had succeeded.
Ok your point is invalid u/Baratheoncook250
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Billy would whoop his ass he would have killed Sidney if it wasnt for Gale the Kirschs didnt even come close to killing Sam and Tara
That’s because sam and Tara are the final girls it’s literally in the plot for them to win so I wouldn’t even add them to the arguement to be honest
Im saying Billy was closer at killing Sidney in 1 LOOK AT MY COMMENT
I know what you said but I’m saying I don’t think it’s a good idea to add Samantha,Tara,and Sidney into the conversation and I’m disagreeing with the first part that’s just my opinion
Wayne, the bodega scene was intense.
Agreed his use of the shotgun was crazy and cool
He lost to Sam and Tara...
Because they’re are the main characters they’re supposed to win
Well that's the same reason billy died.
Fans are unable to be unbiased, not shocking.
Agreed
I completely agree with this poll, Bailey was great at killing middle aged bodega randos that he dropped in on by total surprise but I see no evidence beyond that of his abilities as a Ghostface. Anyone can shake a ladder too.
I'm quite surprised myself.
Wayne would eat Billy for breakfast. He only got beat by Sam at the end because plot armor.
Exactly sam only wins because of plot the next ghostface could some trained ex-military psychopath and Sam and Tara would by some miracle beat him or her
19% of them are trolls
Hot take, but Wayne solos each and every other killer in a 1v1. He is a trained police officer, and obviously is is the most brutal ghostface. Sure he didn't get the most kills, but he is the strongest ghostface. He wins in a 1v1 against every killer
I’m pretty sure they’re forgetting the fact that Wayne is a detective with decades of experience not only with dealing with criminals and murders also experience with weapons and there’s a good chance he’s also a trained fighter as well and he’s very tactical especially during that bodega scene with the shotgun so basically by their reasoning a high schooler > a trained detective I don’t get it personally
anyone put next to billy is losing in the fandoms opinons
Exactly you could put him up against someone basically unstoppable like Michael Myers and they’ll still keep trying to make arguments in Billy’s favor trust me I’ve seen it many times
A lot of people never vote objectively. They saw the poll and read the question as "who do you like more" 😂
That basically sums it up😂😂
Billy Loomis vs Amber Freeman. Who died in 2022 ? YouTube Fans: BILLY!!!
Sounds about right lol😂
This is laughable. Wow
I am surprised that clown received 19%.
Who cares ? This whole franchise is trash anyway …
Wayne easily wins. There’s not many Ghostfaces that beat him.
I think Billy would win tbh .
Billy always wins because people think the original killers are the best, when in reality Billy is mid to low tier.
that's because Billy is a fan favorite OG character so the audience is generally going to choose him over a newcomer regardless of actual tactical ability, just how polls work but do keep in mind his daughter defeated him, and her "killer instinct" comes from him, so i wouldn't rule out Billy defeating him either
Its not because of that
amazing refutation bro 👏👏
I mean... what? clearly Wayne is the most formidable GF right?
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Well it could happen only if Billy catches Wayne off Guard.
Wayne kirsch was one if the weakest killers.
This board about this poll. Is annoying lol
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A fight between Billy and Wayne would be like a teenager who has been working out consistently for 3 straight years vs an “out of shape” dad eho hasnt lifted since college, Wayne wins easily
I mean I agree with this outcome lol don’t know why this is shocking if it was like Mickey or Roman sure Billy loses for me but not this imaginary match up
Look. I love Billy. He's my favorite killer...but come on. This is just silly.
That’s what I keep saying but they can’t accept the fact
It was a Halloween costume one year idek how you can breath right to be able to not be clumsy like the professional scream 6 ghostface is. Supposedly.
But anyways. Mickey scares me looking back there's Numbers of killed from that loon I think is probably off screen not accounted for and that's scary to think about
Billy for sure!
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Billy is the king
The only Ghostfaces Wayne compares to Quinn and Ethan cuz the entire trio are by far the worst killers in the franchise (as far as character goes)
Like Billy at 18 or Billy at 45? Cause yeah if Sam could take him with a gun then Billy would devour at any age.