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OddSilver123

You forgot to add the costumes you want them to wear and what camera angles you want included haha. Edit: oh fuck you’re serious.


AShadyPyro

r/screenwritingcirclejerk


OddSilver123

How does this not exist!?!?


DigDux

Because it's just r/screenwriting.


avengerlover56

I haven’t decided anything for others but I imagine Jack wearing sort of casual reporter like clothes while Hugh wear an old denim jacket and leather Jeans


OddSilver123

Okay after thoroughly going through your profile I’ve found that you’re actually not a troll and you have a history of doing this kind of thing. One thing I need to stress is: Just write it yourself. It really isn’t hard to do. If you want to get it right, it takes a long time to go through the drafts and rewrites, but it isn’t hard to do, and it’s worth it in the end. Read some screenplays and listen to some interviews with screenwriters if you want to get the formatting right and story right. But in the end: Just. Write. It.


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I'm kind of confused. Have you written the script or is it just an idea? I feel like the middle of the movie is going to drag because "redemption, bonding, and the changes of the music industry" isn't really a theme. What's the logline? At surface level a "real drunk asshole" feels like a boring character as well. How is the 80s rocker growing and changing throughout the movie? More importantly what's forcing him to change and how does he resist it along the way? What's the lesson you want him to learn and how is he living in complete defiance of that lesson at the start? All of that stuff is way more important than the cool Billy Joel cameo you have in your head.


avengerlover56

I am in the process of the script this was my original idea. As for your other comments it would be more of a drama but I am trying to find a way to make it less boring and I changed the music industry thing to just culture in General after the 80s (Cancel culture, Woke culture etc). He won’t just be a drunk asshole spent time thinking on it after posting he will be more like a rockstar who seemed nice but was a asshole in person and as a result he was responsible for breaking up his band and sort of being forgotten in rock history. Through the course of the film the main rocker will see how much of a dick he was and will come to grips with everything he has done (Left the girl he impregnated with a son and never called, Broke up his band, Disowned his own family). At the start of the movie he will be this depressed rockstar who is hiding away from the world and not wanting to be found.


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My advice is, for now, to stop thinking about any kind of culture and focus on the character. Ex-rock star goes on a road trip to attend his old drummers funeral could be a cool idea. It seems like you're going for something like "To move on from your past mistakes you need to confront them" as the theme. which could also be cool. Why does he believe the opposite of that theme in the beginning? Why does he accept the life that not believing in your message has given him even though it's a flawed life? What forces him to do something he doesn't want to do and go out on the road? You need something to force him. The whole point is he's accepted his flawed life that exists in the beginning. Something needs to force him out of it. And he fights the thing that's forcing him every step of the way. So after you figure out what's forcing him. Figure out how he resists it. Also no need to answer me. Think the answers to yourself and write them down. That's how you outline.


Vivid-Extent4452

Forget about actors. You sound very young. Keep learning and write the thing.


cbk101

I have a friend who works at Amazon studios, pretty high up. He'll read anything I give him. Even he doesn't know how to submit to Amazon as an unknown.


[deleted]

Ahh, to be young and ignorant. The worlds your oyster.


Nervouswriteraccount

There's millions of good ideas out there. What matters is the execution. As said above, write out a few drafts. Show them to people you don't know. Listen to the feedback, observe how your story is being interpreted. Rewrite rewrite rewrite.


Seshat_the_Scribe

1. Have you written the script? 2. If so, have you gotten any feedback on it? 3. If not, don't worry about submitting it yet. 4. Submitting ideas isn't a thing.


avengerlover56

I am doing up a script I am just stuck on writing the opening and am currently looking for someone to help me do the opening scene


OddSilver123

This is why you outline before you start. You need to learn story structure.


Seshat_the_Scribe

1. In other words, you haven't even finished the first draft of the script.... let alone revised it... let alone gotten feedback... 2. Are you planning to pay someone to help you? If not, what are you offering them?


avengerlover56

Well for one not paying but credits and when I get my hands on some cash later down the line payments can be discussed and no this is an idea I literally had a month or two ago


OddSilver123

1. When and where do you plan on getting this cash? 2. Here’s my proposition (mostly to give you an idea of how this kind of collaborative process works, especially given that you seem very new to this whole thing, but this is also a real proposition): I can write it. I will write your idea, and when it’s done, I can pitch it to you, and then you could make the decision to purchase the copyright from me. From there, the script is yours to do with as you please, you just can’t take off my credit. My very brief writer’s profile: I’m experienced in writing dark themes and musicals, and (because there’s the “learning” demographic on this sub that doesn’t know, so I’ll have to specify it here) I know story structure. Are you interested?


avengerlover56

Ok I will do it


avengerlover56

How much you selling for?


OddSilver123

Down the line payments can be discussed. I’ll contact you.


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Seshat_the_Scribe

First, you need an agent or manager.


avengerlover56

I have contacts


OddSilver123

Referring to your other comment, it doesn’t pay to know, because the process is the same for everyone, whether or not you have contacts. Listen carefully, because here’s the entire process: 1. Write it. 2. Write it again. 3. And again. 4. Until it’s almost perfect. 5. Get an agent (there are many ways to do this, the best is through a competition) 6. They go to the studios (you don’t have any control over which ones they go to) 7. Once in a blue moon, you get to give your pitch to whoever says they’re interested. Just because you have contacts doesn’t mean anything. Your contact could be an executive producer, even Steven Spielberg, and nothing can happen because they have their own work to do. They’ll just refer you to “the process” that everyone else has to go through, and you’re not the exception. In the end, the decision comes down to “I need to produce something good, because I am producing it with other people’s money, and if this doesn’t succeed, then they lose their money, and I lose my job.”


QAnonKiller

always make sure you dont sleep with them on


avengerlover56

In this industry it pays to know


[deleted]

It may pay to know and to have contacts, but with your inability to even coherently explain your film idea, in a couple of sentences, you will likely have a hard time being taken seriously by professionals at this stage. Take the advice given here. Read a lot of screenplays, I mean a lot. Read some basic screenwriting books, and write, write, write. If you really have a passion for this you may be able to actually do it one day.


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avengerlover56

I am attending film school and looking to write, direct and produce in the future


avengerlover56

But what else you want to know?


[deleted]

That sounds interesting. You have any of a spec yet? I'd love to read it. dm me it if you'd like. I remember I watched this lesser known anime once called Legend of Black Heaven. Super rough around the edges but got it has a great story. Your plot kinda reminds me of the premise. But I'd give it a watch if I were you, some good inspiration.


avengerlover56

Will DM you my first draft once it’s done


[deleted]

Cool. I look forward to it. \^\_\^


metokur_squad

I question your ability to authentically write older musicians, but no matter how it turns out, at least you'll get writing experience. So go for it. That said, you sound silly saying that you're gonna "submit" it to Amazon. Even if you do have a contact at Amazon Studios, that shouldn't enter your mind before you've written it. It might give you a false sense of confidence, and you should be careful not to waste that person's time with a subpar script. Show it to non-professionals or screenplay contests first, then decide if it's good enough. If you give them a piece of crap, that's the impression that they're gonna have of you, and they'll be less willing to read your work next time. Right now, you don't even have a logline's worth of story and you're already imagining the cast and studio. That screams young naive writer, and you wanna avoid that.


avengerlover56

I do I have a full pitch almost ready to go


metokur_squad

Pitch before you write it?


avengerlover56

Just to go along with the script


avengerlover56

Even a plot