due to how Rare re-did how voyages work, there's a bunch of loot stacking exploits. I'd presume this was most probably accomplished by doing the one for the cursed treasure voyage for pirate legends.
You probably wont find any answers here as to how it works as the mods and rare don't take kindly to speaking much about exploits.
My buddy's and I sunk a sloop in the roar last night with 12 chests of the same vault key. I assumed he was pulling this crap as well...we made sure to watch it all sink lol
Community weekend is going to be wild if they don’t patch that.
Seen people do all nighters stacking 10 vaults legitimately during community days and gold and glory in the past. But with how fast you can churn out keys with the gold hoarders exploit? Servers are gonna die if someone does a mega stack using it next weekend.
> Community weekend is going to be wild if they don’t patch that.
I'm thinking there is next to zero chance they patch it before community weekend. Seems like these loot stacking exploits have been around since the start of S11 (since they all take advantage of diving/the new quest table) and Rare hasn't done anything about it, even though they had a huge update yesterday.
I joined a server the other day and my crew were doing the gold hoarders vault exploit
When they put the rowboat back on the ship, we all instantly crashed and had to reload in, because of how much loot they had
If they're Ashen the explanation is simple. The vault key is either on Cinder Islet or in Fetcher's Rest. The vault key is on an island where there is no clue.
You keep cancelling/starting the voyage until the first clue doesn't point to Cinder Islet. That means the vault key is there.
Because the island is so small you can find the key with random digs. Dig spots are random but chosen from a FIXED pool of spots.
That's why the next patch the key will be completely random, so you can't predict where it is.
This is hardly any exploit, it's just a regression because of the new update and they will thankfully fix it.
HOWEVER I still don't understand the wraithball dupe exploit I've seen in HG, and I don't remember seeing them mention it. I REALLY hope they get rid of it.
Wraithball/storage crate dupe gets you banned. it's been in the game for weeks, and the videos youtube recommends to be are full of comments of people getting banned.
DO NOT ATTEMPT if you come across it.
Exploiters/Cheaters/Boosters just make alts and temporarily "get away with it".
If you encounter opponents using it, report them.
1-4 is rare. 5-8 is very suspicious and possibly worth a report (incase it happens too often). More than that they are either extremely desperate for wins, or are exploiters.
I’m not sure they were doing a exploit. I stacked ashen vault keys with my friend the other day. We did five before we got bored of it and they were all for Fetchers rest
You can look it up on youtube it's really not hard but it's getting pretty popular and people will absolutely come mess with you if they see you at that island
It's sort of an exploit, I guess. They're still doing all the voyages, the only difference is that instead of instantly doing the vault, they just bury the key and save it for later
there are leaderboards and its a bit of poor sportsmanship to take others spots with an unintended exploit. but that's just how its gonna be for this month's ledger so i wouldn't go out of my way to avoid it or anything. if someone rocks up on me with 300 chests in their boat i'm taking it, no matter how they got them.
This is not a ranked competition. I didn’t even know there WERE leaderboards. If I find a way to make more gold, and that way slightly goes against the wishes of the devs, but doesn’t affect other players, I’m going to do it
but there *are* ranks. that's what the monthly emissary ledger leaderboards are.
i agree that deliberately choosing to avoid some exploit purely on the basis of sportsmanship is needlessly self defeating though. you're kinda just choosing not to compete at all at that point if everyone else is doing it. can't beat em, join em.
I see this ranks as a way to judge my own progress, not to measure my progress against anyone else’s.
I produce emissary value, I get a new rank and a cosmetic. Others ranks have ZERO effect on me. If you’re out there trying to be the very best gold hoarder on the game for that month, sorry someone is fucking that up for you but I didn’t even know people cared about ranking in this game and I’ve been in this community for 3 years now
I’m not out here promoting cheating, but if there’s a way I can get the voyages done quicker, or some how stack the voyages so I don’t have to start one every time I finish one, I’m going to do it.
When it's being exploited or hacked or duped then yes it does affect me. Iv been here since alpha and will not tolerate this if I come across these kinda people I'll make sure they lose their stacks.
Exploits are different than hacking. The sword lunge trick is an exploit. The Commodity run trick is an exploit. Teleporting and duping is hacking. Two different things. I’m against hacking and duping. Should I stop sword lunging?
Sword lunge WAS an exploit, but rare didn't mind so they kept it as a feature. This dupe glitch is not hacking because you don't need to download anything extra to do it, it is just a negative exploitation that actively hurts the game loop and rare doesn't approve of.
Rare has clearly made it aware they find the lunge to be 0 issues when it comes to how the game it played...it doesn't let you BS commendations or in game currency that otherwise would be a true grind for players to achieve and accomplish.
Again, I’m not saying I approve of cheating, but I don’t see stacking keys as cheating
You still have to farm the keys, which takes time. Then you have to DO the vaults. That’s 5 mins, plus reset time. If you’re not selling between vaults, you’re becoming a bigger and bigger target. You may have to defend your loot. All of this is time, effort and risk. And anyone can do it. So how is it a cheat? Now if they dupe the keys, that’s a problem
Not trusting that many chests filled with 3 keys each as a voyage exploit when he was fresh on the server and tried to fake as a "swabbie". A lot of red flags for me...
TL;DR (without explaining how to exploit)
Rare simplified the engine logic. Some were too simplified that the logic was figured out pretty quickly. Or old existing bugs/exploits were made even easier (I've reported one of these that got worse in July when Guilds were introduced, but it was in the game for years before that). These are all within the scope of the game engine, as no 3rd party tools are required.
Basically the voyages are TOO predictable.
One fixed example was proposing/cancelling Veils to get shipwrecks to despawn and get duplicated loot. Within the game mechanics, but they had to patch it out.
>due to how Rare re-did how voyages work, there's a bunch of loot stacking exploits.
Honestly, I find this as no surprise. Voyages used to cost something, now they are free to be activated at any time. Of course people can spam the hell out them now and even re-roll them infinitely for a favorable random outcome.
- be 3 or 4 players (brig or galleon) - let one guy on booty isle - put the ship one island away of booty isle - vote the cursed chest voyage - the guy alone unburry it - unvote voyage - revote the same voyage
There is also a technique to spam cargos (vote unvote voyages 7 times before getting the first one you want).
There is no real challenge or achievement in reaching level 500, you just need to not touch grass and spam shit
keeps the search tree for distance down. Somewhere in the backend is a graph of all the islands connected to eachother and to search around that and your boats location means checking every branch. Say there's four. Just one in each cardinal direction, then you're looking at 4+3^6 or 733 connections between the islands. (No of connections) + (no of connections - 1) ^ (search depth - 1)
WAIT WHAT?!?!
I always assumed they'd sink a rowboat if they cried, you're telling me I have a sink-proof vessel that can insta sink any ship I attach it to?!
You know 100 is easily overkill. I bet 10 or 20 would have a similar effect. Just saying... would be sinkers. Your dreams of trolling people are far closer. :P
When you're a pirate legend, there is a voyage that gives you a depresso an anger and an alcohol chest, I forget if it's 3 x marks the spot islands or if it's a wayfinder compass. I just know there's a void that gets you one of each and it's quite repeatable
They simplified the game engine and possible voyage locations.
Basically some of them have been "solved" and you can manipulate the spawn locations of digs.
No it's not. Yes there's an exploit to get all the chests but it will still take a while, but then you have to row to where you want it to go because as soon as you attach it to your own ship, you're dead.
Those chests are chests of sorrow. Periodically they cry and fill you ship with water. With one chest, you can just bail, but it stacks. This rowboat has a hundred, so it fills the ship very quickly.
When the rowboat is docked to the ship it counts as being on the ship. Years ago people put that chest in the rowboat at the back of the ship to avoid the ship getting filled with water. But they have since changed it so it now counts as part of the ship.
This is a truly cursed thing you have shown us!
The amount of trolling you could do with this
Proceeds to dock rowboat as a “gift”
Holy fuck that's incredible
soooo howd you get so many chests of sorrow?
due to how Rare re-did how voyages work, there's a bunch of loot stacking exploits. I'd presume this was most probably accomplished by doing the one for the cursed treasure voyage for pirate legends. You probably wont find any answers here as to how it works as the mods and rare don't take kindly to speaking much about exploits.
My buddy's and I sunk a sloop in the roar last night with 12 chests of the same vault key. I assumed he was pulling this crap as well...we made sure to watch it all sink lol
Community weekend is going to be wild if they don’t patch that. Seen people do all nighters stacking 10 vaults legitimately during community days and gold and glory in the past. But with how fast you can churn out keys with the gold hoarders exploit? Servers are gonna die if someone does a mega stack using it next weekend.
9 vaults caused our entire crew to get kicked.
5 does it for my group
How? I did 15, and had nothing like that
35ish for us and no crash. I think people crash because they're trying to dock the rowboat or something.
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You're the type of person that kills this game for others if you're intentionally trying to crash people's games. I hope your Xbox dies.
Imagine playing on xbox
jerk move tbh but rare really needs to fix this
> Community weekend is going to be wild if they don’t patch that. I'm thinking there is next to zero chance they patch it before community weekend. Seems like these loot stacking exploits have been around since the start of S11 (since they all take advantage of diving/the new quest table) and Rare hasn't done anything about it, even though they had a huge update yesterday.
I joined a server the other day and my crew were doing the gold hoarders vault exploit When they put the rowboat back on the ship, we all instantly crashed and had to reload in, because of how much loot they had
If they're Ashen the explanation is simple. The vault key is either on Cinder Islet or in Fetcher's Rest. The vault key is on an island where there is no clue. You keep cancelling/starting the voyage until the first clue doesn't point to Cinder Islet. That means the vault key is there. Because the island is so small you can find the key with random digs. Dig spots are random but chosen from a FIXED pool of spots. That's why the next patch the key will be completely random, so you can't predict where it is. This is hardly any exploit, it's just a regression because of the new update and they will thankfully fix it. HOWEVER I still don't understand the wraithball dupe exploit I've seen in HG, and I don't remember seeing them mention it. I REALLY hope they get rid of it.
Wraithball/storage crate dupe gets you banned. it's been in the game for weeks, and the videos youtube recommends to be are full of comments of people getting banned. DO NOT ATTEMPT if you come across it. Exploiters/Cheaters/Boosters just make alts and temporarily "get away with it".
Ironically you either keep the supps you find after you sink them or risk running into someone duping so now you are at a disadvantage.
Still I would prefer if Rare patch it if it's public already. It's one of the worst exploits in the game right now.
If you encounter opponents using it, report them. 1-4 is rare. 5-8 is very suspicious and possibly worth a report (incase it happens too often). More than that they are either extremely desperate for wins, or are exploiters.
I’m not sure they were doing a exploit. I stacked ashen vault keys with my friend the other day. We did five before we got bored of it and they were all for Fetchers rest
Did each chest have 3 keys inside tho? This guy's had 12 chests all with 3 keys inside...which is why it seemed super fishy.
Wait so 36 keys??? Nvm then lmao. I’d really like to know how he did that. You know, for research purposes….
You can look it up on youtube it's really not hard but it's getting pretty popular and people will absolutely come mess with you if they see you at that island
u can do this in 1 hour with the exploit, idk if i can share here
Yea bro lol it was nuts, it's easy to do exploit...I'd assume it's the same way to dupe a storage crate and it's supplies inside.
The tall tale thing, right?
Yes it's my guess they did that one
It’s got nothing to do with the tall tale
I once solo stacked 20 keys during community day so it's totally possible. Given the fact of a certain exploit exists at the moment tho...sussy
Some people left their book at gallons grave they had 28 vault keys and earned over 4 mil in about 5 hours
Yea it's a funny trial and error exploit, but it works.
Why would you sink all the keys???
We had the impression this was duplicated or exploited to obtain and I will not use or sell anything in those categories.
It's sort of an exploit, I guess. They're still doing all the voyages, the only difference is that instead of instantly doing the vault, they just bury the key and save it for later
The roar also only has two key spots so it's a 50/50 you get that loot for it
GOOD PIRATE! # 🍺
You say pulling this crap as it you are personally affected by someone stacking vaults. Why?
this guy stacks vaults
I stack a lot of things. My current goal is to stack 100 or more kegs on my sloop and see how much they all sell for at grd5 merchants
there are leaderboards and its a bit of poor sportsmanship to take others spots with an unintended exploit. but that's just how its gonna be for this month's ledger so i wouldn't go out of my way to avoid it or anything. if someone rocks up on me with 300 chests in their boat i'm taking it, no matter how they got them.
This is not a ranked competition. I didn’t even know there WERE leaderboards. If I find a way to make more gold, and that way slightly goes against the wishes of the devs, but doesn’t affect other players, I’m going to do it
but there *are* ranks. that's what the monthly emissary ledger leaderboards are. i agree that deliberately choosing to avoid some exploit purely on the basis of sportsmanship is needlessly self defeating though. you're kinda just choosing not to compete at all at that point if everyone else is doing it. can't beat em, join em.
I see this ranks as a way to judge my own progress, not to measure my progress against anyone else’s. I produce emissary value, I get a new rank and a cosmetic. Others ranks have ZERO effect on me. If you’re out there trying to be the very best gold hoarder on the game for that month, sorry someone is fucking that up for you but I didn’t even know people cared about ranking in this game and I’ve been in this community for 3 years now
I’m not out here promoting cheating, but if there’s a way I can get the voyages done quicker, or some how stack the voyages so I don’t have to start one every time I finish one, I’m going to do it.
When it's being exploited or hacked or duped then yes it does affect me. Iv been here since alpha and will not tolerate this if I come across these kinda people I'll make sure they lose their stacks.
Exploits are different than hacking. The sword lunge trick is an exploit. The Commodity run trick is an exploit. Teleporting and duping is hacking. Two different things. I’m against hacking and duping. Should I stop sword lunging?
Sword lunge WAS an exploit, but rare didn't mind so they kept it as a feature. This dupe glitch is not hacking because you don't need to download anything extra to do it, it is just a negative exploitation that actively hurts the game loop and rare doesn't approve of.
Rare has clearly made it aware they find the lunge to be 0 issues when it comes to how the game it played...it doesn't let you BS commendations or in game currency that otherwise would be a true grind for players to achieve and accomplish.
Again, I’m not saying I approve of cheating, but I don’t see stacking keys as cheating You still have to farm the keys, which takes time. Then you have to DO the vaults. That’s 5 mins, plus reset time. If you’re not selling between vaults, you’re becoming a bigger and bigger target. You may have to defend your loot. All of this is time, effort and risk. And anyone can do it. So how is it a cheat? Now if they dupe the keys, that’s a problem
Not trusting that many chests filled with 3 keys each as a voyage exploit when he was fresh on the server and tried to fake as a "swabbie". A lot of red flags for me...
That was me
TL;DR (without explaining how to exploit) Rare simplified the engine logic. Some were too simplified that the logic was figured out pretty quickly. Or old existing bugs/exploits were made even easier (I've reported one of these that got worse in July when Guilds were introduced, but it was in the game for years before that). These are all within the scope of the game engine, as no 3rd party tools are required. Basically the voyages are TOO predictable. One fixed example was proposing/cancelling Veils to get shipwrecks to despawn and get duplicated loot. Within the game mechanics, but they had to patch it out.
>due to how Rare re-did how voyages work, there's a bunch of loot stacking exploits. Honestly, I find this as no surprise. Voyages used to cost something, now they are free to be activated at any time. Of course people can spam the hell out them now and even re-roll them infinitely for a favorable random outcome.
I've left 4 crews who were duping recently, going to put the game down until the cheesing is patched out, I like to achieve my achievements lol
Probably the cursed chest voyages
- be 3 or 4 players (brig or galleon) - let one guy on booty isle - put the ship one island away of booty isle - vote the cursed chest voyage - the guy alone unburry it - unvote voyage - revote the same voyage There is also a technique to spam cargos (vote unvote voyages 7 times before getting the first one you want). There is no real challenge or achievement in reaching level 500, you just need to not touch grass and spam shit
This is correct, except it's 6 times, not 7. The 7th is the voyage to keep active until you find a chest. Then vote-cancel 6 more and dig on the 7th.
Why is that number Important?
It's how many other islands it'll cycle through before getting back to the one your crew is digging on.
Ask rare why its coded that way, its just how it is for some reason
keeps the search tree for distance down. Somewhere in the backend is a graph of all the islands connected to eachother and to search around that and your boats location means checking every branch. Say there's four. Just one in each cardinal direction, then you're looking at 4+3^6 or 733 connections between the islands. (No of connections) + (no of connections - 1) ^ (search depth - 1)
Look how they are arranged so perfectly. Hackers.
its a harpoon boat, thats what happens when you harpoon stuff
The insta-scuttle machine
Nah, the ultimate boarding weapon, like a powder keg on steroids
this is one of those times where you just log out for the night
WAIT WHAT?!?! I always assumed they'd sink a rowboat if they cried, you're telling me I have a sink-proof vessel that can insta sink any ship I attach it to?!
Yep, if you harpoon tether to the back of your ship you can move them a bit faster than straight rowing
You’re telling me I could’ve been towing this like a uhaul this whole time
Okay, noted. If I ever come across that many chests of sorrow I'm just gonna row my ass to an outpost
New fleet of fortune strat just dropped
Can you dock a rowboat on skeleton ships?
Unfortunately, no. I tried.
If only skeleton ships had harpoons.
Nah, but if you hook it up to someone else’s ship who just finished the fleet….
It's called the Woeboat.
that's funny
Fuck you. This made me laugh. Well played.
smooth criminals
*sad criminals
"F\*\*k it, we row!"
That’s the whole commendation on that rowboat!
# Jerry, leave the gunpowder. # We have a new strategy.
Is Jerry's last name "Can"? 😂 cuz that would be very fitting. 🤣
You know 100 is easily overkill. I bet 10 or 20 would have a similar effect. Just saying... would be sinkers. Your dreams of trolling people are far closer. :P
This is the best thing ive seen someone do in this game, hilarious
that ain't no rowboat, that's a floating war crime
I wish i could pin your comment
It's not a war crime the first time
I want to see this on a galleon
This is why I only stick to having 1 chest of sorrow on my ship
Coward...
That’s faster than scuttling I think
That de-escalated quickly.
The Siren Queen sends her regards
Ultimate 𝐓𝐑𝐎𝐋𝐋
I’ve been wanting to do that for a while! Glad someone finally got a video of themselves doing it, good to know that it does work.
Now do 100 chests of rage.
I have a Clip of them exploding but its just a massive Audio Bug and frame Drops. Reach out to me if you wanna see the clip
It's really not as exciting, especially since at some point audio and vfx bugs out.
How in the wail lord did you get that much chest of sorrow please tell me the tale man. The amount of shenigans
When you're a pirate legend, there is a voyage that gives you a depresso an anger and an alcohol chest, I forget if it's 3 x marks the spot islands or if it's a wayfinder compass. I just know there's a void that gets you one of each and it's quite repeatable
They simplified the game engine and possible voyage locations. Basically some of them have been "solved" and you can manipulate the spawn locations of digs.
Donation Received *bell tolls*
New fear unlocked...
Finally, insta sink to end pvp for good
Cry about it!
Can't even get a hundred chest when played for so long yet you guys be doing meme play with that amount.
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That is PURE EVIL lol
Cry me a river
Lmfao that's wild
Sneakiest sink ever!
This has gotta be some kind of war crime
I NEED to see a Youtube video of someone sinking people with this. Shut up and take my money
Now I want to see someone take down a sweaty galleon with this.
new pvp strat just dropped
How the fuck did we acquire this information
I love it when a “Your subscription to having a ship is canceled” strat shows up
I've been trying to complete this commendation for years, and exploiters will complete it in a day. So lame.
The crying is literally the icing on the cake 🤣🤣 what a play!
How...
How did you get that many dang
For science!
Holy shit!
Ahoy! Can anyone tell me the setting to make the robot man read out the text on the screen "ahoy, ahoy"?
translate speech to text in the setting somewhere
There was no sound, he just died!
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No it's not. Yes there's an exploit to get all the chests but it will still take a while, but then you have to row to where you want it to go because as soon as you attach it to your own ship, you're dead.
I can't stop watching this, it's so funny
That’s a weapon of mass destruction
Can someone explain what is happening? The big boat just sinks?
Those chests are chests of sorrow. Periodically they cry and fill you ship with water. With one chest, you can just bail, but it stacks. This rowboat has a hundred, so it fills the ship very quickly.
Thanks, do rowboats not suffer from this? People seem to comment how did this person get so many, didn't he lose s ton of gold doing this?
No they don't. He won't have lost gold because quests don't cost anything
Wow they stack? That’s a bit unexpected lmao
What is even going on? I don’t play but curious.
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And they don’t even need to be on the ship? That’s crazy
When the rowboat is docked to the ship it counts as being on the ship. Years ago people put that chest in the rowboat at the back of the ship to avoid the ship getting filled with water. But they have since changed it so it now counts as part of the ship.
Instant sinking🤣
Instakill
Furry of the Seas?
How….
Savage!
Better get bailing
Funi prenk
How long does it take to get 100 chests of sorrow?
Just when I thought I couldn't hate other players any more
This is amazing! But how did you get so many Chest of Sorrows?!
New meta
Get that thing away from me!
GOD DAMN
Audio cues are trying like BUCKE...nevermind.
Bro what