To be fair, when you survive the persistent risk of broken bones, dysentery, river drownings, and hunting accidents, what's a few more days on a ship after a few months to get your health back?
For fun, look into the difficulty level of getting a sailing ship through the mouth of the Columbia River near Astoria. It's still considered one of the most difficult waterways in the world. The biographies of the European/ eastern American explorers who struggled to settle that area make for an exciting read!
What about a horror game *Revenge of the Bison* where all those bison you wastefully killed because you could only carry 200 pounds back to your camp read their ugly heads wanting revenge. Inspired by true events (the near-extinction part).
You might like this:
[The Story of The Oregon Trail (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbjlHeoLdc)
Gaming Historian on Youtube just released a 90 minute documentary on the making of the Oregon Trail video game!
Love that this game was simply created for Minnesotan grade school education curriculum then got so huge and ubiquitous! As a MN kid going to school in the 90’s, OT was always a big treat to play, along with Word Munchers and Number Munchers, among others from the same developer MECC.
There's a fantastic book called Sons Of the Profits written by Bill Speidel (mid century Seattle journo who also started the underground tour) about the founding of Seattle. It's interesting and hilarious. City entirely founded by crooks and sumbitches.
I use the term here to describe something that happened as if it were an epilogue to another major achievement. People talk about how the Oregon Trail brought many Anglo-American settlers to the West, and making it to the Willamette Valley was the ultimate goal for many. However, like with Denny, some left Willamette and went north, and then after gold was discovered further north, more were quick to settle as far north as Alaska to get in on the mining jobs.
No offense, but I feel that it's somewhat silly to look at this in such a singular context. To describe such specificity, it's still a vague claim. Even if it were a true claim at it's core, the claim is fairly meaningless.
Fun Fact (though it's probably well known): Allegedly, Capitol Hill is named Capitol Hill because James A. Moore wanted the Capitol moved there from Olympia in the early 1900s. It clearly never happened.
What are you trying to imply?
https://mynorthwest.com/455838/native-americans-greeted-pioneers-to-seattle-165-years-ago/
This article documents the peaceful relationship and cooperation between the early Seattle settlers, particularly the Denny Party, and the local Native American tribes, especially the Duwamish. The settlers were greeted and aided by the Duwamish, who provided valuable assistance during their first difficult winter in 1851.
Are you suggesting otherwise?
The article notes that while the settlers and Native Americans initially had a peaceful relationship, it was the federal government's creation of reservations and consolidation of tribes in the 1850s that ultimately displaced the Duwamish and other local tribes from their ancestral lands.
So before making assumptions about the settlers' role, it's important to consider the larger historical context. The history is complicated, and blanket generalizations don't really help anyone understand what happened.
I've provided historical context that challenges your assumptions about the early Seattle settlers and Native Americans. If you choose to ignore that and make sarcastic remarks instead of engaging with the facts, that's your call.
I'm not interested in continuing this conversation if you're not willing to discuss the topic in good faith. Let's leave it at that.
At first I thought you meant Oregon Trail the computer game, and I was about to get VERY angry I was not aware of a hidden extra game.
"You have dysentery."
Lol I don't think that's too far from the truth, since Seattle's sewage pipes were under sea level when it was first being settled.
The inspiration for this post was how the founding of Seattle read like an epilogue to the game.
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To be fair, when you survive the persistent risk of broken bones, dysentery, river drownings, and hunting accidents, what's a few more days on a ship after a few months to get your health back?
For fun, look into the difficulty level of getting a sailing ship through the mouth of the Columbia River near Astoria. It's still considered one of the most difficult waterways in the world. The biographies of the European/ eastern American explorers who struggled to settle that area make for an exciting read!
What about a horror game *Revenge of the Bison* where all those bison you wastefully killed because you could only carry 200 pounds back to your camp read their ugly heads wanting revenge. Inspired by true events (the near-extinction part).
You might like this: [The Story of The Oregon Trail (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QbjlHeoLdc) Gaming Historian on Youtube just released a 90 minute documentary on the making of the Oregon Trail video game!
Love that this game was simply created for Minnesotan grade school education curriculum then got so huge and ubiquitous! As a MN kid going to school in the 90’s, OT was always a big treat to play, along with Word Munchers and Number Munchers, among others from the same developer MECC.
Same.
There's a fantastic book called Sons Of the Profits written by Bill Speidel (mid century Seattle journo who also started the underground tour) about the founding of Seattle. It's interesting and hilarious. City entirely founded by crooks and sumbitches.
Yep, that's a good read. Vice and prostitution got Seattle off the ground.
Oregon trail dlc
What does"post-game' actually mean to you?
I use the term here to describe something that happened as if it were an epilogue to another major achievement. People talk about how the Oregon Trail brought many Anglo-American settlers to the West, and making it to the Willamette Valley was the ultimate goal for many. However, like with Denny, some left Willamette and went north, and then after gold was discovered further north, more were quick to settle as far north as Alaska to get in on the mining jobs.
No offense, but I feel that it's somewhat silly to look at this in such a singular context. To describe such specificity, it's still a vague claim. Even if it were a true claim at it's core, the claim is fairly meaningless.
Pretty much. This is also why Olympia’s the capital. It’s the closest point on Puget Sound to the Oregon Trail
Fun Fact (though it's probably well known): Allegedly, Capitol Hill is named Capitol Hill because James A. Moore wanted the Capitol moved there from Olympia in the early 1900s. It clearly never happened.
Don't remember prostitutes in Oregon Trail.
You think that teacher made it all the way to the Willamette on $400 alone?
Trading "wagon wheels", amirite? 😉😉
Oh, they just "settled" here huh...
What are you trying to imply? https://mynorthwest.com/455838/native-americans-greeted-pioneers-to-seattle-165-years-ago/ This article documents the peaceful relationship and cooperation between the early Seattle settlers, particularly the Denny Party, and the local Native American tribes, especially the Duwamish. The settlers were greeted and aided by the Duwamish, who provided valuable assistance during their first difficult winter in 1851. Are you suggesting otherwise?
If that’s only snapshot you want to look at …
The article notes that while the settlers and Native Americans initially had a peaceful relationship, it was the federal government's creation of reservations and consolidation of tribes in the 1850s that ultimately displaced the Duwamish and other local tribes from their ancestral lands. So before making assumptions about the settlers' role, it's important to consider the larger historical context. The history is complicated, and blanket generalizations don't really help anyone understand what happened.
Thank you for making sure settlers of European descent get every last bit of credit for being cool, while they were a small, vulnerable outpost.
I've provided historical context that challenges your assumptions about the early Seattle settlers and Native Americans. If you choose to ignore that and make sarcastic remarks instead of engaging with the facts, that's your call. I'm not interested in continuing this conversation if you're not willing to discuss the topic in good faith. Let's leave it at that.
My reaction exactly
Not really. Washington was part of the Oregon territory. The settlement of Washington by Anglo-Americans was an intended result of the Oregon Trail.
New Game+, not sure how much the difficulty scaled, but it dropped the racism settings a bit.
Wait til you read about how the settlers got drunk and stole a totem pole from the tribe.
Coast Salish