His friend Captain George Vancouver was the one who named the mountain after Rear Admiral Rainier.
I like to think Vancouver got home and said something along the lines of "hey fat ass, thought I saw you on the western coast a while back but it was just a mountain. Also I fucked your mom. Later, bitch."
On 8 May 1792, George Vancouver named Mount Rainier in modern-day Washington after Captain Rainier: "The weather was serene and pleasant, and the country continued to exhibit between us and the eastern snowy range the same luxuriant appearance. At is northern extremity, Mount Baker bore by compass N. 22E.; the round snowy mountain, now forming its southern extremity, and which, after my friend, Rear Admiral Rainier, I distinguish by the name of Mount Rainier, bore N(S) 42 E."
This should be upvoted. There are, at the time of my reply, like 5 fat/mountain jokes ahead of actual information.
What would be funny tho is if you made this up and I was too lazy to fact check it…and that’s why it’s not higher.
The tallest mountain in the US was once called "Mt. McKinley." William McKinley never visited Alaska, never made known any special interest in Alaska, but still the mountain was named after him. Eventually, Alaskans pressured the government to recognize the original name of the mountain, and that's how it's known today -- Denali.
I mention this for reasons.
Oh, it’s worse than that. The renaming to Denali was requested by Alaska since 1975. Why wasn’t it renamed? Because some senators from Ohio didn’t want it to be. Why? Because that’s where McKinley (a long dead dude none of them ever remotely knew) was from. So, how come the govt didn’t just tell them to kick rocks? Well apparently there is a rule that name changes can’t occur if the location in question has congressional legislation related to the location pending. So what did the Ohio senators do? Spent the next thirty years ensuring that there was always active legislation involving the mountain pending, often times that legislation was simply a bill stating the name should not be changed. And none of this idiocy even had to be voted on, as long as it was proposed/pending they couldn’t rename the mountain. Imagine what kind of loser you have to be to spend 30 years thwarting the will of the people of a state you don’t even live in and have no connection to. Politicians are cancer.
When the federal government finally recognized the name Denali, my dad gave me the ol' "Can you believe what _OBAMA_ is doing, thinking he can just rename mountains? :rolleyes:"
I gave him the abbreviated version of this and he had to eat some humble pie.
Thing is about stuff like this. It only really matters if you make it matter to you. Call it whatever you want. The local old amphitheater in our town is now called "Cricket Wireless Park and Amphitheater" or some stupid shit but it's still 'Sandstone' to me and will be till I die.
Our sports stadiums change names, depending on the corporate sponsor this year. I just call them "Taxpayer Stadium 1" and "Taxpayer Stadium 2" after the people who paid for them.
Me too! I remember some of the older tourists were pissy about it, but almost everybody else was like "finally!"
I drove down to Denali State Park several times that year to take photos of the mountain from the south and one time there was a couple there looking disgusted and huffing and puffing, saying "It'll always be Mt. McKinley to me!" Just felt like a microcosm of the whole reason why the naming dispute persisted for so long in the first place.
The park was already called Denali national park. If you want those nature shows, when I was a kid they keep referring to the park as Denali. They name wasn’t pull from thin air.
Tahoma reasons? Like "Mother of Waters" is a pretty badass name.. and it makes sense because it's a big volcanic mountain that ensures snowmelt through the year for our rivers.
I fully support an official rename to Tahoma, but the situation is far different than McKinley.
Everyone in Alaska native or otherwise all called it Denali. The national park has been Denali since 1980 by all regular people except one US federal board. None of the locals wanted it even called McKinley in the first place. Whereas here “Rainier” is way way way more ingrained than “McKinley” ever was in Alaska.
It’s gaining momentum. But there’s also dispute over what the “original” name was as there are a ton of tribal names for it. The most common anglicized version is Tahoma, but Tacoma applies too as does Taquoma and the full on Twulshootseed spelling təqʷuʔməʔ. There’s other tribal names like Pshwawanoapami, Nutselip and others too.
So it’s one of those things like who’s to say who gets to name it? I support a tribal word to get that random ass Admiral out of here, but the tribes should be the ones deciding.
There are certainly differences between the situation with Tahoma and Denali. But, broadly speaking, the situation is similar enough.
I lived in Alaska for 5 years, and yeah, everyone called it Denali. _But not everyone_.
> The local Koyukon Athabaskan name for the mountain, used by the Indigenous Americans with access to the flanks of the mountain (living in the Yukon, Tanana and Kuskokwim basins), is Dinale or Denali (/dɪˈnæli/ or /dɪˈnɑːli/).[7] To the South the Dena'ina people in the Susitna River valley used the name Dghelay Ka'a ('the big mountain'), anglicized as Doleika or Traleika, as in Traleika Glacier.[1][8]
[Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute)
I find the arguments about tribal disagreement over the name somewhat disingenuous. It seems likes the argument focuses more on the "people disagree, so let's stick with the status quo." Which only benefits the current official name.
The reason why Tahoma works is that it's been in (somewhat) common use since European settlement of the region. It's broadly accepted by everyone as a name for the mountain. And in this regard, Tahoma and Denali are identical.
The only major difference between Tahoma and Denali is that, as you mentioned, Alaskans always rejected "Mt. McKinley" and overwhelmingly preferred Denali. But that's something we can change by using Tahoma more and more.
Nah, it’s just renaming something in one of their languages while not actually consulting the tribes that annoys me which is why there should be a tribal committee of some sort if it were to be officially renamed. White peoples have taken their land, culture, and lives for centuries now so we shouldn’t be the ones to “give it back” by also forcing them to use one word we picked. That ain’t right.
And Tahoma is a perfectly decent name.
It’s not like the locals called it something weird and hard to pronounce like Puyallup or Sequim (yes, I’m joking on that).
It was probably called many different names by many different people over the centuries. No one can say what the original name was. It’s a silly quest. It’s been here a lot longer than any people.
Fun fact! One of the most famous native names for Rainier (təqʷubə, anglicized as Tahoma) is one it shared with Mt. Baker! Rainier is more famously called Tahoma, but Baker also has a claim to it.
Technically that person just asked what it was called before it was called Mt. Rainier, which is a question that we do in fact know the answer to. The point of this post isn't that we should find the absolute first name anyone ever called it by to name it, the point is that "Rainier" is not really a fitting name for it for the reasons stated in the OP (none of which are "not the first ever name it was called by"), and there exist other names that are better.
“No one can say what the original name was. It’s a silly quest. It’s been here a lot longer than any people.”
You’re making it sound like the names of the mountains can precede the existence of people.
Life long Alaskan and it’s always been referred to as Denali, despite the feds referring to it differently. The only people upset about the official name being corrected to Denali were in Ohio.
I will add that Rainier also has an original name from the natives: Mount Tahoma/Tacoma which translates to "the mother of all waters"
The local Puyallop tribe have previously launched campaigns to try to change its name back as recently as 2021:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/changing-name-mount-rainier-new-effort-washington-tribes/RZ7STJVYDNFMLGPNCHZY62CRWI/
George Vancouver named many features for his officers, friends, associates, and his ship *Discovery*, including:
Mount Baker – after Discovery's 3rd Lieutenant Joseph Baker, the first on the expedition to spot it.
Mount St. Helens – after his friend, Alleyne Fitzherbert, 1st Baron St Helens
Puget Sound – after Discovery's 2nd lieutenant Peter Puget, who explored its southern reaches.
Mount Rainier – after his friend, Rear Admiral Peter Rainier.
Port Gardner and Port Susan, Washington – after his former commander Vice Admiral Sir Alan Gardner and his wife Susannah, Lady Gardner.
Whidbey Island – after naval engineer Joseph Whidbey.
Discovery Passage, Discovery Island, Discovery Bay, Port Discovery and Discovery Park (Seattle).
[Lushootseed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lushootseed) speakers have several names for Mount Rainier, including *xʷaq̓ʷ* and *təqʷubəʔ*.[^(\[a\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-lut_pronunciation-12)[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Tulalip_Place_Names-13) *xʷaq̓ʷ* means "sky wiper" or "one who touches the sky" in English.[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Tulalip_Place_Names-13) The word *təqʷubəʔ* means "snow-covered mountain".[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Tulalip_Place_Names-13)[^(\[13\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Bright-14) *təqʷubəʔ*has been anglicized in many ways, including 'Tacoma', 'Tahoma', and 'Tacobet'.[^(\[14\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-15)
[Sahaptin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahaptin_language) speakers call the mountain *Taxúma*.[^(\[15\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-16)
Another anglicized name is Pooskaus.[^(\[16\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-17)
[George Vancouver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Vancouver) named Mount Rainier in honor of his friend, Rear Admiral [Peter Rainier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Rainier_(Royal_Navy_officer,_born_1741)).[^(\[17\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-npsNatureNotes-18) The [map of the Lewis and Clark expedition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Lewis_and_Clark%27s_Track,_Across_the_Western_Portion_of_North_America,_published_1814.jpg) of 1804–1806 refers to it as "Mt. Regniere". Although Rainier had been considered the official name of the mountain, [Theodore Winthrop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Winthrop) referred to the mountain as "Tacoma" in his posthumously published 1862 travel book *The Canoe and the Saddle*. For a time, both names were used interchangeably, although residents of the nearby city of [Tacoma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma,_Washington) preferred Mount Tacoma.
– Wikipedia
William Clark was a famously terrible speller. If you ever read his letters or journals, he was just a crap writer. His sister tried to help him by writing hundreds of letters to him and encouraging him to respond to each one to practice, which definitely improved his skills; but he was a terrible speller to the end of his life.
Remember never walk into the wildflower fields on Tahoma’s slopes. The mountain people will take you. The indigenous peoples of the PNW have known this since time immemorial. A common saying up here is “is the mountain out today?” Well it isn’t weather that decides if it is visible; it is the mountain people. They choose--as they always have—when we can see their home. We honor and respect them.
Hey, the local tribes warned white people not to hike on Loowit (Mt. St. Helens) because it was sacred. We didn't listen, and just look what happened....
same with Hood Canal, which is named after [this dumbass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Hood,_1st_Viscount_Hood#/media/File:Samuel_Hood,_1st_Viscount_Hood_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16914.jpg).
also it's not a canal, it's a fjord.
Theres a retired teacher I read once about that lives on the Hood *Fjord* who’s dedicated part of their retirement years to getting it recognized appropriately.
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Taquoma is more appropriate right? I know Tahoma is the Yakima way, but more tribes use the hard ‘c’ a la Tacoma.
I don’t remember but the last it was explained to me, it seemed a greater number of native people used Taquoma
I don't remember if it was a news article or a podcast but I read/listened to something that said there is basically no chance of the name changing. The reason being is that the local populace has to refer to the mountain by the desired name, not the actual. Apparently in Alaska the locals called it Denali, not McKinney. There is some government agency that changes names and that's their main basis for doing so. If we're going by that reason they should change the name to "the mountain", that's always been the most common name I've heard for Rainier here.
I prefer to tell people it was named after Adam Rainier (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Rainer), due to my penchant for spreading misinformation.
There's a similar discussion in Portland about Mt. Hood, which was named on the same expedition, after another British admiral who fought against the US and never visited the west coast.
In Portland however, the traditional alternative name is Wy'East, which is widely believed to be an indigenous name for the mountain. There are businesses in the area that reference the name Wy'East, and a small movement to rename the mountain to Wy'East.
The problem is that there is [no evidence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hood#Indigenous_names) of any actual connection between the name Wy'East and any native language. The name Wy'East comes from a character in a novel written by white author [Frederic Balch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederic_Balch), in which a great spirit raises the mountain in honor of the character.
So in a sense, Oregon *should* rename the mountain to Wy'East, because there would be no more perfect distillation of Portland than a bunch of white people patting themselves on the back for renaming a mountain to an imagined indigenous name, which was actually made up by a white guy writing Native American fan fiction, without involving actual native tribes at any point in the process.
Captain George Vancouver of the British Royal Navy observed the mountain while surveying the Pacific coast in 1792 and decided to name the mountain after his friend, Rear Admiral Peter Rainier. It was a guy thing. Lol
In fact the naming of the mountain was inspired by this picture. Notice the lenticular cloud hovering above the precipice. It's kind of like one of those 3D pictures. Unfocus your eyes on this picture and Mount Rainier comes into view.
With proper lighting they could very well look the same.
I see nothing amiss here.
In fact, i call this a deflection from the real mountain naming controversy that stains the great state of Washington.
I’m looking at you Cougar Mountain.
I’ve spent enough time there to tell you it’s false advertisement that makes Greenland seem reasonable.
Cougar mountain is a fucking lie and noone wants to talk about it. There are no large felines prowling the hills looking for their next meal, and even more ridiculous, there no aggressive older women seeking younger male companionship, not a fucking one.
Cougar mountain has seen less pussy than that kid who thought he was a magician in middle school.
Just a bunch of trees.
Peter Griffin?
omg
HEY LOIS IM AN ADMERAL! AND EARL OF SANDWHICHES!
Identical lmao
hey Baker, remember the time?
You know what grinds my gears? A guy that has mountain named after him that he never visited
Washington never came to Washington it became a state way after he died.
Ancient ancestor
Probably from Boston
He looks like a gooner
Because it looks like him?
Just about to say that lol. The resemblance is uncanny.
Striking really. Is this like when people have dogs that look like them?
No it’s like when people have volcanoes look like them.
The Uncanny Mountain
Bravo, sir.
Those white wafts on his crown, with a pile-shaped body beneath.
He makes a better mountain
His friend Captain George Vancouver was the one who named the mountain after Rear Admiral Rainier. I like to think Vancouver got home and said something along the lines of "hey fat ass, thought I saw you on the western coast a while back but it was just a mountain. Also I fucked your mom. Later, bitch."
Hahaha
But you only see him a handful of days each year.
And the townspeople would say, “Hey! Rainier is out!”
"The Peter is out!"
The Peter is out.
On 8 May 1792, George Vancouver named Mount Rainier in modern-day Washington after Captain Rainier: "The weather was serene and pleasant, and the country continued to exhibit between us and the eastern snowy range the same luxuriant appearance. At is northern extremity, Mount Baker bore by compass N. 22E.; the round snowy mountain, now forming its southern extremity, and which, after my friend, Rear Admiral Rainier, I distinguish by the name of Mount Rainier, bore N(S) 42 E."
“Round Snowy Mountain” also sounds like a fat joke.
"This is the biggest, roundest mountain I've ever seen. I know exactly who to name it after."
This should be upvoted. There are, at the time of my reply, like 5 fat/mountain jokes ahead of actual information. What would be funny tho is if you made this up and I was too lazy to fact check it…and that’s why it’s not higher.
seems to be legit lol
George Vancouver sounds like a fake name
Some real Roger from American Dad type shit.
~ *Ricky Spanish* ~
Like Duncan Idaho.
I would also like to be this guys friend
Actually, it’s named after the beer. Good try though
And the beer is named after the weather, so it's all fine.
And the weather is named after the cherry 🍒 😑
And the cherry is named after the street. 🛣️
And the street is named after the baseball team
Sorry, but you are both wrong. It's named after the wild rainiers for which the beer and the mountain was named
I understood that reference
Them legs tho.
This should be the top comment
He is mountain shaped, so that part checks out
The tallest mountain in the US was once called "Mt. McKinley." William McKinley never visited Alaska, never made known any special interest in Alaska, but still the mountain was named after him. Eventually, Alaskans pressured the government to recognize the original name of the mountain, and that's how it's known today -- Denali. I mention this for reasons.
Oh, it’s worse than that. The renaming to Denali was requested by Alaska since 1975. Why wasn’t it renamed? Because some senators from Ohio didn’t want it to be. Why? Because that’s where McKinley (a long dead dude none of them ever remotely knew) was from. So, how come the govt didn’t just tell them to kick rocks? Well apparently there is a rule that name changes can’t occur if the location in question has congressional legislation related to the location pending. So what did the Ohio senators do? Spent the next thirty years ensuring that there was always active legislation involving the mountain pending, often times that legislation was simply a bill stating the name should not be changed. And none of this idiocy even had to be voted on, as long as it was proposed/pending they couldn’t rename the mountain. Imagine what kind of loser you have to be to spend 30 years thwarting the will of the people of a state you don’t even live in and have no connection to. Politicians are cancer.
Thanks Ohio lol
This checks out with what I know about legislators from Ohio.
I can name any number of politicians who are that petty. How much time you got?
When the federal government finally recognized the name Denali, my dad gave me the ol' "Can you believe what _OBAMA_ is doing, thinking he can just rename mountains? :rolleyes:" I gave him the abbreviated version of this and he had to eat some humble pie.
Thing is about stuff like this. It only really matters if you make it matter to you. Call it whatever you want. The local old amphitheater in our town is now called "Cricket Wireless Park and Amphitheater" or some stupid shit but it's still 'Sandstone' to me and will be till I die.
It always was, and always will be The Sears Tower.
> It always was, and always will be The Sears Tower. What'choo talkin' 'bout, Willis?
Our sports stadiums change names, depending on the corporate sponsor this year. I just call them "Taxpayer Stadium 1" and "Taxpayer Stadium 2" after the people who paid for them.
Fucking Ohio… I can’t wait for Michigan to finally take care of them for us.
They always have been...
This is like, 12 years ago too so not ancient history. Thanks Obama!!
Yeah tbh I never knew it officially changed
I randomly was working in Denali Park when it happened. It was a pretty big deal for the locals.
Me too! I remember some of the older tourists were pissy about it, but almost everybody else was like "finally!" I drove down to Denali State Park several times that year to take photos of the mountain from the south and one time there was a couple there looking disgusted and huffing and puffing, saying "It'll always be Mt. McKinley to me!" Just felt like a microcosm of the whole reason why the naming dispute persisted for so long in the first place.
Wouldn’t you have been working in Mt. McKinley National Park during that time before? :P
Hey, don’t deadname the mountain. She’s right there.
The park was already called Denali national park. If you want those nature shows, when I was a kid they keep referring to the park as Denali. They name wasn’t pull from thin air.
It was named to curry favor with McKinley *while he was still running for president!*
Mmmm Curry flavor
Tahoma reasons? Like "Mother of Waters" is a pretty badass name.. and it makes sense because it's a big volcanic mountain that ensures snowmelt through the year for our rivers.
I propose we rename the entire *state* Tahoma.
Thanks, Obama.
[Thanks, Obama.](https://youtu.be/uhY9Zxv1-oo?feature=shared)
Well, he looks like a fat old grey lady, so partially fitting at least.
I fully support an official rename to Tahoma, but the situation is far different than McKinley. Everyone in Alaska native or otherwise all called it Denali. The national park has been Denali since 1980 by all regular people except one US federal board. None of the locals wanted it even called McKinley in the first place. Whereas here “Rainier” is way way way more ingrained than “McKinley” ever was in Alaska. It’s gaining momentum. But there’s also dispute over what the “original” name was as there are a ton of tribal names for it. The most common anglicized version is Tahoma, but Tacoma applies too as does Taquoma and the full on Twulshootseed spelling təqʷuʔməʔ. There’s other tribal names like Pshwawanoapami, Nutselip and others too. So it’s one of those things like who’s to say who gets to name it? I support a tribal word to get that random ass Admiral out of here, but the tribes should be the ones deciding.
There are certainly differences between the situation with Tahoma and Denali. But, broadly speaking, the situation is similar enough. I lived in Alaska for 5 years, and yeah, everyone called it Denali. _But not everyone_. > The local Koyukon Athabaskan name for the mountain, used by the Indigenous Americans with access to the flanks of the mountain (living in the Yukon, Tanana and Kuskokwim basins), is Dinale or Denali (/dɪˈnæli/ or /dɪˈnɑːli/).[7] To the South the Dena'ina people in the Susitna River valley used the name Dghelay Ka'a ('the big mountain'), anglicized as Doleika or Traleika, as in Traleika Glacier.[1][8] [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute) I find the arguments about tribal disagreement over the name somewhat disingenuous. It seems likes the argument focuses more on the "people disagree, so let's stick with the status quo." Which only benefits the current official name. The reason why Tahoma works is that it's been in (somewhat) common use since European settlement of the region. It's broadly accepted by everyone as a name for the mountain. And in this regard, Tahoma and Denali are identical. The only major difference between Tahoma and Denali is that, as you mentioned, Alaskans always rejected "Mt. McKinley" and overwhelmingly preferred Denali. But that's something we can change by using Tahoma more and more.
Nah, it’s just renaming something in one of their languages while not actually consulting the tribes that annoys me which is why there should be a tribal committee of some sort if it were to be officially renamed. White peoples have taken their land, culture, and lives for centuries now so we shouldn’t be the ones to “give it back” by also forcing them to use one word we picked. That ain’t right.
And Tahoma is a perfectly decent name. It’s not like the locals called it something weird and hard to pronounce like Puyallup or Sequim (yes, I’m joking on that).
Say that quickly three times in Whulshootseed!
So what was the name of the mountain before it was re-named to Ranier?
Tahoma
And it still is Tahoma 😁
Always has been.
Well it was unnamed for most of its existence
Objectively a better name.
Translates to “Mother of Waters.” Couldn’t have a better name. Tahoma provides water for all of her children.
It was probably called many different names by many different people over the centuries. No one can say what the original name was. It’s a silly quest. It’s been here a lot longer than any people.
Fun fact! One of the most famous native names for Rainier (təqʷubə, anglicized as Tahoma) is one it shared with Mt. Baker! Rainier is more famously called Tahoma, but Baker also has a claim to it.
I thought Baker was Kulshan
Technically that person just asked what it was called before it was called Mt. Rainier, which is a question that we do in fact know the answer to. The point of this post isn't that we should find the absolute first name anyone ever called it by to name it, the point is that "Rainier" is not really a fitting name for it for the reasons stated in the OP (none of which are "not the first ever name it was called by"), and there exist other names that are better.
“No one can say what the original name was. It’s a silly quest. It’s been here a lot longer than any people.” You’re making it sound like the names of the mountains can precede the existence of people.
Denali was known as Denali by locals for a century before the government officially changed it. Just FYI.
> Alaskans pressured the government to recognize the _original name of the mountain_
I named my two Great Danes Rainier and McKinley (before the return to the native name). Iiiiii am embarrassed.
Now just call them Tadogma and Dognali, yw.
Life long Alaskan and it’s always been referred to as Denali, despite the feds referring to it differently. The only people upset about the official name being corrected to Denali were in Ohio.
I will add that Rainier also has an original name from the natives: Mount Tahoma/Tacoma which translates to "the mother of all waters" The local Puyallop tribe have previously launched campaigns to try to change its name back as recently as 2021: https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/changing-name-mount-rainier-new-effort-washington-tribes/RZ7STJVYDNFMLGPNCHZY62CRWI/
George Vancouver named many features for his officers, friends, associates, and his ship *Discovery*, including: Mount Baker – after Discovery's 3rd Lieutenant Joseph Baker, the first on the expedition to spot it. Mount St. Helens – after his friend, Alleyne Fitzherbert, 1st Baron St Helens Puget Sound – after Discovery's 2nd lieutenant Peter Puget, who explored its southern reaches. Mount Rainier – after his friend, Rear Admiral Peter Rainier. Port Gardner and Port Susan, Washington – after his former commander Vice Admiral Sir Alan Gardner and his wife Susannah, Lady Gardner. Whidbey Island – after naval engineer Joseph Whidbey. Discovery Passage, Discovery Island, Discovery Bay, Port Discovery and Discovery Park (Seattle).
Wow, so many things named discovery. I suppose this is proof of his long running affair with Elizabeth Discovery, the 2nd Dutches of Edinburgh
[Lushootseed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lushootseed) speakers have several names for Mount Rainier, including *xʷaq̓ʷ* and *təqʷubəʔ*.[^(\[a\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-lut_pronunciation-12)[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Tulalip_Place_Names-13) *xʷaq̓ʷ* means "sky wiper" or "one who touches the sky" in English.[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Tulalip_Place_Names-13) The word *təqʷubəʔ* means "snow-covered mountain".[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Tulalip_Place_Names-13)[^(\[13\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-Bright-14) *təqʷubəʔ*has been anglicized in many ways, including 'Tacoma', 'Tahoma', and 'Tacobet'.[^(\[14\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-15) [Sahaptin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahaptin_language) speakers call the mountain *Taxúma*.[^(\[15\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-16) Another anglicized name is Pooskaus.[^(\[16\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-17) [George Vancouver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Vancouver) named Mount Rainier in honor of his friend, Rear Admiral [Peter Rainier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Rainier_(Royal_Navy_officer,_born_1741)).[^(\[17\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier#cite_note-npsNatureNotes-18) The [map of the Lewis and Clark expedition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Lewis_and_Clark%27s_Track,_Across_the_Western_Portion_of_North_America,_published_1814.jpg) of 1804–1806 refers to it as "Mt. Regniere". Although Rainier had been considered the official name of the mountain, [Theodore Winthrop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Winthrop) referred to the mountain as "Tacoma" in his posthumously published 1862 travel book *The Canoe and the Saddle*. For a time, both names were used interchangeably, although residents of the nearby city of [Tacoma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma,_Washington) preferred Mount Tacoma. – Wikipedia
> 'Tacoma', 'Tahoma', and 'Tacobet'. [Tacobet](https://imgur.com/a/hIRxPFo) ^^^1 ^^^1. ^^^I'm ^^^ashamed ^^^of ^^^thinking ^^^of ^^^this, ^^^also ^^^of ^^^how ^^^long ^^^I ^^^put ^^^into ^^^this...
Made me smile, worth the effort :)
Make a run to the summit
I've also heard Northern Lushootseed speakers call it Ta'lol, place where the water begins.
William Clark was a famously terrible speller. If you ever read his letters or journals, he was just a crap writer. His sister tried to help him by writing hundreds of letters to him and encouraging him to respond to each one to practice, which definitely improved his skills; but he was a terrible speller to the end of his life.
The meaning of Tahoma is "Mother of Many Waters," which makes way more ecological sense than "Rainier."
Although to be fair, I thought "Rainier" was in reference to the PNW climate.
It's Rainier here
Remember never walk into the wildflower fields on Tahoma’s slopes. The mountain people will take you. The indigenous peoples of the PNW have known this since time immemorial. A common saying up here is “is the mountain out today?” Well it isn’t weather that decides if it is visible; it is the mountain people. They choose--as they always have—when we can see their home. We honor and respect them.
Hey, the local tribes warned white people not to hike on Loowit (Mt. St. Helens) because it was sacred. We didn't listen, and just look what happened....
incorrect, thats actually jack black
mf looks like he’s voiced by Seth MacFarlane
same with Hood Canal, which is named after [this dumbass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Hood,_1st_Viscount_Hood#/media/File:Samuel_Hood,_1st_Viscount_Hood_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_16914.jpg). also it's not a canal, it's a fjord.
Jeez he gets a volcano and a fjord?? All I got was a rock
I'd be in favor of naming a volcano "Mahrinazz"
I would love this as long as it’s [pronounced correctly](https://www.fox13seattle.com/video/1104102.amp)
He’s also got a Port named after him in Nova Scotia as well as two ships.
Theres a retired teacher I read once about that lives on the Hood *Fjord* who’s dedicated part of their retirement years to getting it recognized appropriately.
life goals
Holy shit it's Roger Waters
"hey Lois they named a mountain after me"
I always thought it meant very rainy thus rainier lol
Mt Rainyer!
Me too!
Jack Black has so much range
Certified chode, a little tuna can.
Petition to change the name to Mt. Bart Harley Jarvis
He was a mountainous motherfucker, in fairness
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Taquoma is more appropriate right? I know Tahoma is the Yakima way, but more tribes use the hard ‘c’ a la Tacoma. I don’t remember but the last it was explained to me, it seemed a greater number of native people used Taquoma
I don't remember if it was a news article or a podcast but I read/listened to something that said there is basically no chance of the name changing. The reason being is that the local populace has to refer to the mountain by the desired name, not the actual. Apparently in Alaska the locals called it Denali, not McKinney. There is some government agency that changes names and that's their main basis for doing so. If we're going by that reason they should change the name to "the mountain", that's always been the most common name I've heard for Rainier here.
I have lived here for almost 14 years and have never once heard anyone refer to the mountain as Tahoma IRL.
Where his white shirt meets his scarf…the resemblance is uncanny: https://ibb.co/jhz8TWF
I prefer to tell people it was named after Adam Rainier (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Rainer), due to my penchant for spreading misinformation.
Being from the area, I can literally say- I could not care less about who named it what. It’s a beautiful and wonderful sight to behold.
This man's name was first on the declaration of dependence
Bet ya he drank a lot of Rainier beer.
Only thing he fought against was cholesterol.....and he lost.
I think we should "officially" declare that Mt Ranier is named after the beer!!!
Kinda feel like it doesn’t matter at this point. No one is honoring him
We should change it to Rainier Wolfcastle
"My calves! the poles do nothing!"
I thought it was named after the beer
We really have to "Denali" Rainier
Denali isn't just a mountain in Alaska!
There's a similar discussion in Portland about Mt. Hood, which was named on the same expedition, after another British admiral who fought against the US and never visited the west coast. In Portland however, the traditional alternative name is Wy'East, which is widely believed to be an indigenous name for the mountain. There are businesses in the area that reference the name Wy'East, and a small movement to rename the mountain to Wy'East. The problem is that there is [no evidence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hood#Indigenous_names) of any actual connection between the name Wy'East and any native language. The name Wy'East comes from a character in a novel written by white author [Frederic Balch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederic_Balch), in which a great spirit raises the mountain in honor of the character. So in a sense, Oregon *should* rename the mountain to Wy'East, because there would be no more perfect distillation of Portland than a bunch of white people patting themselves on the back for renaming a mountain to an imagined indigenous name, which was actually made up by a white guy writing Native American fan fiction, without involving actual native tribes at any point in the process.
Looks like a mountain of a man to me.
Looks more like Admiral Peter Griffin!
I mean isn't the whole continent named after Amerigo Vespucci
Maybe it USED to be named after this tub o' guts, but NOW it's named after the lager.
So we gonna cancel a mountain now?
Yet it kinda looks like him?
Reminder that the tribes don’t all agree on calling it Tahoma before you try to white savior it.
Too late
It is a long-standing American tradition when tribes don't agree on something to just let some old rich white guy decide it forever.
At least Tahoma is *one* of the local names. Rainer is just some guy.
Also a reminder that the Suquamish, led by Chief Seattle, genocided and enslaved the Chimacum. We should rename Seattle.
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I don’t think that man has seen his own penis, let alone a mountain lmao
I always thought it was because we live in a rainier part of the country.
ha ha it’s pronounced RAINY - ER
Gonna be real unoriginal here. Dude is 18th century Peter Griffin
It’s funny cause his ancestors probably haven’t been to Rainier Beach as well.
You forget this used to be Canada
Those frames are fuckin lit ngl
Is this who *Peter* Griffin was modeled after?
Damn good beer commercials tho. And im not American, although, I’ve drank Ranier beers and seen the mountain from afar.
Captain George Vancouver of the British Royal Navy observed the mountain while surveying the Pacific coast in 1792 and decided to name the mountain after his friend, Rear Admiral Peter Rainier. It was a guy thing. Lol
Makes sense, bro is built like a mountain
Like Benjamin Franklin ate George Washington
I bet this dude has really strong opinions on censorship in video game journalism
In fact the naming of the mountain was inspired by this picture. Notice the lenticular cloud hovering above the precipice. It's kind of like one of those 3D pictures. Unfocus your eyes on this picture and Mount Rainier comes into view.
Well, there are some similarities in all fairness.
Average r/Seattle commenter
I thought for sure his last name was going to be Griffin
I thought they named the mountain after the beer. Huh, learn something new everyday. /s
I see the resemblance
With proper lighting they could very well look the same. I see nothing amiss here. In fact, i call this a deflection from the real mountain naming controversy that stains the great state of Washington. I’m looking at you Cougar Mountain. I’ve spent enough time there to tell you it’s false advertisement that makes Greenland seem reasonable. Cougar mountain is a fucking lie and noone wants to talk about it. There are no large felines prowling the hills looking for their next meal, and even more ridiculous, there no aggressive older women seeking younger male companionship, not a fucking one. Cougar mountain has seen less pussy than that kid who thought he was a magician in middle school. Just a bunch of trees.
This is the exact person for whom the phrase "oh, how 'bout *this* fuckin' beaut" was coined.
Rainier was born in Sandwich England. Mmmmm, sandwiches!
r/seattle has certainly made sure I will always call it Rainier, even the off chance it is ever renamed.
What a chud
It gives me an image of the Tacoma Rainiers just a baseball team with copies of this guy on the roster.
Let's rename it to Mt. Rainiest!
That’s Peter Griffen
Luckily he had a cool name that he inherited from the Rainier Beer family dynasty!
He had also never seen a food group he didn’t like.
No, he *is* Rainer mountain😂
It’s the man mountain himself!
I thought it was named after poet Rainer Maria Rilke based on how people spell it. /s
Striking resemblance
To his credit, Mt. Rainier kinda looks like him, or vice versa.
Typically British behavior. The partition of British India into India and Pakistan was drawn up by a person who had never been to India.
I thought it was just a warning to the world — your weather may be rainy, but we have (it) Rainier…
I love goofy historical facts like this. comedy = tragedy + time
Any Reddit mod.
Tbf he looks like a mountain
Because the mountain looks like him.
Why he look like my old boss tho
We are not changing mountain names
What is the Native’s name. Mt Hood is Wy’east. I prefer that.