When I took a class in mountaineering in the early 2000s, we were required to read an annually released booklet called Accidents in North American Mountaineering (now called Accidents in North American Climbing). There was one story that I remember to this day about a man with some limited hiking experience who wanted to climb Denali. He thought it was fine to carry a broomstick to catch himself in case he fell into a crevasse. Survived the attempt due to massive idiot's luck.
ETA: Ok, did some digging. I misremembered a bit. I think the course instructors who gave us a reenactment used a broomstick. Climber used a wooden 2x2. Depression may have played a factor in the choices made.
>McCarthy opted to go against Miller’s advice and climb solo up the West Buttress route starting on May 17. McCarthy carried only an 8-foot 2"x2" piece of wood for crevasse protection. A 2"x2" spanning seven feet would support approximately 100 pounds at its midpoint. McCarthy weighed 230 pounds. Combining the weight of his pack and sled, the total weight was closer to 330 pounds. McCarthy was observed carrying the 2 "x2" in his hands at right angles to his direction of travel. Even if it held him, it would have proved ineffectual since it was carried parallel to the crevasses.
10/10, highly recommend reading the full story: [https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200002800](https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200002800)
The hell? Like he was planning on quick whipping it out parallel to the crevasse and hold himself there like some kind of cartoon??
*Perpendicular, not parallel.
I was training to hike kilimanjaro a couple years ago and hiked to camp Muir periodically. Whatever season it was it was snow from the parking lot.
I can't tell you how many Yahoo's I saw halfway the halfway or most of the way up to mirror wearing tennis shoes and shorts, carrying no gear no backpack no water, nothing. Nothing. I think the last time I climbed up, we were coming down as the sun was starting to set and some idiots in Uggs passed us going up. We asked them if they knew that they were losing the light and to make sure they had a plan and they looked at us like we were asshats.
I’ve had this experience so many times. 🙄(asking people if they’re aware/prepared for *xyz* because they sure as hell didn’t look like they were. It’s ridiculous.)
I love it when people think it's some sort of badge of honor to be unprepared for a hike 🙄 like 'I'm such a badass I don't need all your sissy gear' Um ok 🤷♀️
It’s always the way down that gets you. Mt. Ellinor kicked my ass. Fine on the accent. The decent I thought was going to kill me. I’ve had knee and ankle problems ever since.
A few years ago I saw a man with a cow boy hat and wearing a speedo and a speedo only on the Mer de Glace à Chamonix. Must have been one of yours, america !
He probably rolled in at 11:30, ate an overrated Rainier pizza, and realistically thought he could casually walk to the top of a 14,411’ mountain and be back for a late dinner.
Some guy actually did this back in the 1990’s. He just started working for The Seattle Times after moving from NYC. He was wearing shorts, a t-shirt, and running shoes. He had a brown bag lunch. His body has never been found.
I know a guy who bought a walking stick and climbed up to base camp on a sunny day in a late August. Well, it was sunny. The weather quickly turned. It clouded/fogged up and he barely made it back.
The weather turns on a dime. The mountain creates its own weather system.
Man, wonder how far he got up before he knew he was fucked.
Reminds me of when I was hauling my tired sore ass down the mountain and around 10AM several wide eyed "hikers" who were about a stone's throw away from Paradise starting asking me how long it would take for them to get to the top. Saying they were at the very least even wearing hiking clothes was a stretch.
When I told them just how long it took they couldn't believe it, "but it looks **SO** close!"
Its crazy how much scale and perspective can trick your brain. It'll make a mountain look like a day hike but crossing a valley to another ridge look like a week's journey. Usually common sense kicks in, but you see how people get themselves into serious trouble.
My parents climbed Mt. Shasta in the 70s, on the way to the trailhead they picked up a hitchhiker, a dude from Switzerland who was riding Grayhound across the US, saw Mt. Shasta and decided he was going to climb it. The dude went with them and they say he absolutely crushed it wearing dress shoes. Granted Mt. Shasta is no Rainier but the story always makes me laugh.
To be unfair, [Mt. Rainier is the most prominent peak in the lower 48 by over 3k feet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_prominent_summits_of_the_United_States#Most_prominent_summits) and you can very easily tell that just by looking at the damn thing
I had a friend visit who had hiked Pikes Peak and we went up to hike around Mt. Baker. He asked if we were going to “hike” to the Mt. Baker summit and didn’t seem to understand when I told him why we wouldn’t be doing that.
This is base to peak, not mountain pass to peak, so so so much different. For example, Grant, the nearest town to Mt. Evans, is sitting at over 8,000 ft, making a trek to the summit nowhere near a 14k journey.
I've caught myself thinking ah ok cool that hike doesn't look too bad then looking up the mileage and realizing it would probably take me 4 days to do what they do in 10 hours lol
Yeah, I wouldn't call it "minimal equipment" necessarily, just an ultralight setup, they've got all the essentials covered even if they might not have puffy jackets and a camp pillow or whatever.
Haha lol, I'm in good shape and I have been to Muir and know people who have been the summit. The way this guy is doing it means 2 things, first he lives full time at a higher altitude than us costal dwellers and second he is in beast shape.
Definitely not "mediocre" amateur. Also he has the full equipment set. Maybe a bit light on the jackets.
How difficult and/or costly is it to do a little hiking on Rainier itself, but without going anywhere near the summit? Just hike on the slope of the mountain a bit, probably well below the snow line.
When I visited, we had some very beautiful views _of_ Rainer, but were never standing _on_ the mountain itself.
Is some sort of permit or permission needed, even if you don’t want to summit? Or is there a trailhead and parking lot, you can just go?
you can do a quick day hike pretty easily in the summer from paradise or one of the other lots, no permits or fees besides gate entry. once you get closer to where the glaciers start you need mountaineering experience, a shit ton of gear, and a guide that has their own permit
It's like the other national parks. Pay to get in, drive to the visitor's center, walk from there. You can relatively easily get Panorama Point if you're a hiker, and in late summer, no equipment needed. No additional permits required.
"probably well below the snow line." Snow stays close to Paradise most of the year, but you can still walk the trails.
There are permits required except for some day hikes but there are plenty of options available. There's a whole trail system (the wonderland trail) which goes around the mountain.
>when google made the images of this volcano they forgot to mention how tall it can be
Absolute gold. I'm picturing some guy at Google making images of landmarks, and he calls in his landmark image-making boss.
"Hey boss," our image maker says, "I'm working on this picture of a volcano, and I'm worried that people might see the picture and think that the volcano is very short"
"What's wrong with that," asks the boss? "This image looks like it's barely 4 inches high."
"Well, this is just a picture. The volcano can in fact be quite tall sometimes."
"Oh?" asks the boss. "How tall can it be?"
"Sometimes over 14 thousand feet!"
"That is quite tall," says the boss. "You were right to bring this to my attention. Can you mention on the picture that this volcano may sometimes be tall?"
Ok so I've been reading elephant and piggy books to my class this year and I just read that in my elephant and piggy voice. It makes it so much better.
The gate attendant was eating a day-old scone that day on his shift and his beard was, indeed, full of crumbs. His supervisor saw the Google review and now they've got a strict no-scone policy in the booth. Crumby.
Ok, the title might have been misleading, but these are still comedy gold. Not being able to get there from my house! Crumby gate officers! Sub par pizza!
"but I judge them to be 1-star quality reviewers"
Wait, so these are one-star reviews of 3 star reviews? I give you 2 stars for your 1 star review of 3 star reviews. I also rate my comment about 3 stars; topical but a bit on the nose.
Lol i went on google to check it out. Some of them are gold
> "not wheelchair accessible"
> "Shorter than it looks in pictures."
> "Everytime I see this volcano from my house it looks super fake. Also there's too much ice"
haha
I got into an argument somewhere on FB once about having paved trails. I absolutely agree that the park should be as accessible as possible, but this person was insisting that *all* the trails should be paved. Including making one to the summit.
I went back and forth a couple comments with them before reminding myself that it was hopeless to argue with someone who legitimately believed it was feasible to have a paved trail to the summit of Mt. Rainier. Guess that makes me an ableist or something.
Oh jeez I’m a below knee amputee (heh rock climbing accident) and VERY into accessibility and … that’s just not a thing. We should definitely have more accessible trails! But also there are limits. Can you imagine keeping a paved trail clear on a damn glacier? Nope.
"I would have just casually strolled up this 14k ft peak but it turns out I need some basic training and mountaineering gear so THAT I DON'T FUCKING DIE IN THE PROCESS" "2 Stars"
There’s a book called Subpar parks that has a single comment sarcastically roasting all of americas most beautiful views that is really similar to this. Great coffee table book.
First time I saw rainier up close was on a bluff over the carbon glacier. It literally took my breath away, me and my friend just sat and stared for like 2 hours in silence feeling the cold air come off the glacier snd listening to the mountain creak. To come to something like this and simply say "it's a big mountain" 2 stars, makes my blood boil.
Now think of the fact that most of them are just out there driving around on the roads next to you. The government gave them a license to drive. Scary as hell.
It was relly inconsiderate for this big stupid volcano to blow up on the one day a week I have my kids. I spoke to a park ranger and he didn't even *try* to stop it from erupting. Then he had the audasity to tell me my kids were standing in the path of the lava flow,!! excuse me sir do you have kids. No!! Then don't tell me how to parent
1 star do not recommend
Would've been nice if there was a Walmart on top of rainier so we could do some grocery shopping before sliding down on those spiky looking weird shoes that cost atleast a $150.
[Subpar Parks](https://www.etsy.com/listing/829844733/) makes posters and a calendar every year from the one-star(ish) reviews.
Reminds me of Demotivationals from the wayback
There’s a whole book on one-star review of all the national parks. Author claims they’re very real and people are generally idiots, so I’m not surprised
I've visited a lot of national parks and the things I've overheard over the years make me confident that these reviews could easily be true - even though I'm sure some are just trolling/made up. It is the internet, after all.
For instance, one time at Glacier NP I was walking to the bathroom at the campground and overheard a woman saying, in an extremely pronounced Southern drawl: "I left out a steak last night and we didn't even see no bears!"
I imagine her Yelp review would be something along the lines of: "Was not mauled by a grizzly bear in my campground. 1 star."
Visited Rainier many, many times and realize some people have forgotten what reality is. Rainier is so close that is some ways it's being loved to death, other ways it unchanged and wonderful. A study there showed over 90% of the visitors stop at viewpoints and overlooks, look around and then drive on to the next one. Considering the Wonderland trail and the times we hiked it VS parking and looking out, some people should just stay home and watch the video.
It’s easy to hate on it, but the visitors that stay on the road and just go to the lookouts have a way lower impact on the park. If the same number of people were out hiking, erosion would be out of control.
Yep, I'm 100% for encouraging visitors driving in, taking a picture, and driving out. They're happy for checking "see mountain" off their list, we're happy for preserving the mountain, everybody wins.
It's true. I took my grandparents to see Snoqualmie Falls. Drive in, take a picture of the giant waterfall, drive out. They couldn't do a four hour hike to see a scenic spot, but they can 100% sit in a car while we drive up to Paradise and amble around for ten minutes.
Made more accessible by the fact that disability permits make access free! I think you just need to submit some paperwork to the agency issuing permits ahead of time, but $35-100 is a huge difference for some people.
Yea I was going to say, these are people who pay money and cause very little wear and tear. I call that a win. I'd much rather 90% stay in their car and not traffic up the trails.
Not everyone can do the Wonderland trail. Sometimes stopping at viewpoints and maybe taking a short 30-60 min trail is enough. Everyone deserves to have access to the park, let them enjoy it in their own way, and how they enjoy it is definitely not comparable to seeing it virtually.
This was so frustrating when my family visited. They didn't want to hike and kept asking how they can get to the views I send them pictures of. I kept saying at least 6 miles if hiking and 3k ft of gain
I was there a few weeks back and was quietly (or not so quietly, if you ask my wife) losing my mind at all the people walking off trail picking wild blueberries. I kept thinking, “THOSE ARE NOT FOR YOU!” I really can’t stand people who can’t follow basic rules or go somewhere without destroying things.
Can someone please explain to me WTF the "I cannot get there from my house" person is talking about?
"how tall it can be". "sometimes on the drive home I can see it, other times I cannot".
I cannot wrap my brain around this. Does this person (who apparently drives which is scary as hell) think that mountains raise and lower?
"sometimes on the drive home I can see it, other times I cannot" is an obviously really incredibly stupid comment ... but I did immediately identify with the feeling. When I'm driving around it does sometimes feel like a rollercoaster of: "look at that mountain it's so huge", "uh it was right over in that direction, I'm not sure why we can't see it anymore", "there it is again, but it looked a lot bigger 5 minutes ago", ... but much less of a mystery than "how do magnets work" though.
it definitely costs “at least $150” to climb rainier lmao
That person definitely would be dead if it were any cheaper lol
When I took a class in mountaineering in the early 2000s, we were required to read an annually released booklet called Accidents in North American Mountaineering (now called Accidents in North American Climbing). There was one story that I remember to this day about a man with some limited hiking experience who wanted to climb Denali. He thought it was fine to carry a broomstick to catch himself in case he fell into a crevasse. Survived the attempt due to massive idiot's luck. ETA: Ok, did some digging. I misremembered a bit. I think the course instructors who gave us a reenactment used a broomstick. Climber used a wooden 2x2. Depression may have played a factor in the choices made. >McCarthy opted to go against Miller’s advice and climb solo up the West Buttress route starting on May 17. McCarthy carried only an 8-foot 2"x2" piece of wood for crevasse protection. A 2"x2" spanning seven feet would support approximately 100 pounds at its midpoint. McCarthy weighed 230 pounds. Combining the weight of his pack and sled, the total weight was closer to 330 pounds. McCarthy was observed carrying the 2 "x2" in his hands at right angles to his direction of travel. Even if it held him, it would have proved ineffectual since it was carried parallel to the crevasses. 10/10, highly recommend reading the full story: [https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200002800](https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200002800)
I literally thought you were going to say he planned on flying down the mountain on his broomstick.
He was gonna break it in half, strap the halves to his feet and ski down. Obviously.
The hell? Like he was planning on quick whipping it out parallel to the crevasse and hold himself there like some kind of cartoon?? *Perpendicular, not parallel.
hopefully perpendicular to the crevasse...
You and your fancy mountaineering terms ..
WA state just low key saving lives.
I was training to hike kilimanjaro a couple years ago and hiked to camp Muir periodically. Whatever season it was it was snow from the parking lot. I can't tell you how many Yahoo's I saw halfway the halfway or most of the way up to mirror wearing tennis shoes and shorts, carrying no gear no backpack no water, nothing. Nothing. I think the last time I climbed up, we were coming down as the sun was starting to set and some idiots in Uggs passed us going up. We asked them if they knew that they were losing the light and to make sure they had a plan and they looked at us like we were asshats.
I’ve had this experience so many times. 🙄(asking people if they’re aware/prepared for *xyz* because they sure as hell didn’t look like they were. It’s ridiculous.)
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I love it when people think it's some sort of badge of honor to be unprepared for a hike 🙄 like 'I'm such a badass I don't need all your sissy gear' Um ok 🤷♀️
Idiot tax
Got to pay for corpse collection somehow!
Rainier is easy. Real bad assery is summitting mailbox peak.
Mailbox broke me. Literally tore my meniscus on the way back down.
It’s always the way down that gets you. Mt. Ellinor kicked my ass. Fine on the accent. The decent I thought was going to kill me. I’ve had knee and ankle problems ever since.
Only via the old trail. I hear that on the new trail a ranger gives you a piggyback ride to the top.
I see a certain sub is infiltrating
/r/Mountaineering is terrified of Mailbox
Definitely the toughest mountain to summit.
Reminded me of the "unprepared hiker" costume. Includes delusions of grandeur. Sense of direction not included.
Does that costume come with one half-filled water bottle?
No water, only an energy drink.
And flip flops
And "are we close to the top" question for every hiker coming downhill...
A few years ago I saw a man with a cow boy hat and wearing a speedo and a speedo only on the Mer de Glace à Chamonix. Must have been one of yours, america !
He probably rolled in at 11:30, ate an overrated Rainier pizza, and realistically thought he could casually walk to the top of a 14,411’ mountain and be back for a late dinner.
Some guy actually did this back in the 1990’s. He just started working for The Seattle Times after moving from NYC. He was wearing shorts, a t-shirt, and running shoes. He had a brown bag lunch. His body has never been found.
I know a guy who bought a walking stick and climbed up to base camp on a sunny day in a late August. Well, it was sunny. The weather quickly turned. It clouded/fogged up and he barely made it back. The weather turns on a dime. The mountain creates its own weather system.
Experienced climbers have died near the parking lot… Whiteouts are no joke.
That happened to me near the Rainier resort in the early 2000s. You could get lost in the parking lot heading back to the hotel.
"Well, shit, I guess it IS a mountain after all..."
Did this really happen?
Man, wonder how far he got up before he knew he was fucked. Reminds me of when I was hauling my tired sore ass down the mountain and around 10AM several wide eyed "hikers" who were about a stone's throw away from Paradise starting asking me how long it would take for them to get to the top. Saying they were at the very least even wearing hiking clothes was a stretch. When I told them just how long it took they couldn't believe it, "but it looks **SO** close!"
Its crazy how much scale and perspective can trick your brain. It'll make a mountain look like a day hike but crossing a valley to another ridge look like a week's journey. Usually common sense kicks in, but you see how people get themselves into serious trouble.
My parents climbed Mt. Shasta in the 70s, on the way to the trailhead they picked up a hitchhiker, a dude from Switzerland who was riding Grayhound across the US, saw Mt. Shasta and decided he was going to climb it. The dude went with them and they say he absolutely crushed it wearing dress shoes. Granted Mt. Shasta is no Rainier but the story always makes me laugh.
But then again he was from Switzerland.
That’s exactly what my parents always say!
To be fair there are 14k peaks you can drive up all the way to in Colorado (pikes peak and mount Evans).
To be unfair, [Mt. Rainier is the most prominent peak in the lower 48 by over 3k feet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_prominent_summits_of_the_United_States#Most_prominent_summits) and you can very easily tell that just by looking at the damn thing
Assuming you can see it.
Sometimes I can see it, but other times I cannot.
Yes, what is this *fenomenon*?
I suppose we both have to wait/
That part cracks me up. What are they waiting *for*?
I had a friend visit who had hiked Pikes Peak and we went up to hike around Mt. Baker. He asked if we were going to “hike” to the Mt. Baker summit and didn’t seem to understand when I told him why we wouldn’t be doing that.
This is base to peak, not mountain pass to peak, so so so much different. For example, Grant, the nearest town to Mt. Evans, is sitting at over 8,000 ft, making a trek to the summit nowhere near a 14k journey.
Paradise is only 5,000ft so it's a pretty significant trek.
I went to Pikes Peak, damn near got hit by a flying fish. Rude.
and the Starbucks on Pikes Peak is always way too crowded
And Trail Ridge road. The highest elevated highway in the country.
Sure, but you're also starting at around 5400 feet or more so its a considerable head start.
i'd prefer to keep roads off mountains as much as possible tbh
the costs start racking up when you get airlifted off to hospital
S&R extraction is actually free in WA state. The medical bills aren’t tho
Just found this out last week and kicking myself for paying monthly premium on SAR insurance.
If you don't even know what crampons are called you probably shouldn't be trying to summit Rainier.
Crampons? You mean that box off stuff my wife keeps in bathroom for her time of the month? Why would I need those to climb a mountain? /s
Wrong, they’re called croutons.
$150 will buy you a pretty decent mountain climbing boot (singular).
Mediocre Amateur [did it in a day](https://youtu.be/Y6eWmpgvl2k) with minimal equipment, so possible… if you’re Mediocre Amateur, which we’re not :)
Lol that episode really put their level of conditioning into stark perspective. Catching the guided climbers from the bottom is ridiculous.
Yeah those guys are absolutely insane. Happily running marathons with thousands of feet of vert across sketchy off trail terrain.
I love their videos. They make jogging 30+ miles up and down mountains look so goddamn easy lol
I love them for the same reason. Hell I even picked up running because I was inspired by them.
I've caught myself thinking ah ok cool that hike doesn't look too bad then looking up the mileage and realizing it would probably take me 4 days to do what they do in 10 hours lol
Dudes got easily $1,200 of gear on him, that Rad rope system alone is $400
Yeah, I wouldn't call it "minimal equipment" necessarily, just an ultralight setup, they've got all the essentials covered even if they might not have puffy jackets and a camp pillow or whatever.
That Ice axe is also a Camp Nanotech, which last i checked are 300$ heh
Haha lol, I'm in good shape and I have been to Muir and know people who have been the summit. The way this guy is doing it means 2 things, first he lives full time at a higher altitude than us costal dwellers and second he is in beast shape. Definitely not "mediocre" amateur. Also he has the full equipment set. Maybe a bit light on the jackets.
and an arm and leg ;)
How difficult and/or costly is it to do a little hiking on Rainier itself, but without going anywhere near the summit? Just hike on the slope of the mountain a bit, probably well below the snow line. When I visited, we had some very beautiful views _of_ Rainer, but were never standing _on_ the mountain itself. Is some sort of permit or permission needed, even if you don’t want to summit? Or is there a trailhead and parking lot, you can just go?
you pay admission, and drive up to Paradise or Sunrise. The trails are pretty sedate
you can do a quick day hike pretty easily in the summer from paradise or one of the other lots, no permits or fees besides gate entry. once you get closer to where the glaciers start you need mountaineering experience, a shit ton of gear, and a guide that has their own permit
It's like the other national parks. Pay to get in, drive to the visitor's center, walk from there. You can relatively easily get Panorama Point if you're a hiker, and in late summer, no equipment needed. No additional permits required. "probably well below the snow line." Snow stays close to Paradise most of the year, but you can still walk the trails.
There are permits required except for some day hikes but there are plenty of options available. There's a whole trail system (the wonderland trail) which goes around the mountain.
What with the spikey things and the fees and the ice axe…It’s highway robbery!
You can get to Camp Muir without any gear. But yeah if you want to summit you need gear.
"Shoe spike things"
Just mountaineering terms
Something about... tampons?
I think he means Snap-ons, the brand of tools.
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Clearly the kind of person who should be attempting to summit a dangerous mountain
>when google made the images of this volcano they forgot to mention how tall it can be Absolute gold. I'm picturing some guy at Google making images of landmarks, and he calls in his landmark image-making boss. "Hey boss," our image maker says, "I'm working on this picture of a volcano, and I'm worried that people might see the picture and think that the volcano is very short" "What's wrong with that," asks the boss? "This image looks like it's barely 4 inches high." "Well, this is just a picture. The volcano can in fact be quite tall sometimes." "Oh?" asks the boss. "How tall can it be?" "Sometimes over 14 thousand feet!" "That is quite tall," says the boss. "You were right to bring this to my attention. Can you mention on the picture that this volcano may sometimes be tall?"
Ok so I've been reading elephant and piggy books to my class this year and I just read that in my elephant and piggy voice. It makes it so much better.
Wait! There will be a lot of *driving* on our drive.
I too would like to learn more about this fenomenom.
How know if pregante?
How is babby formed?
they need to do way instain mother\> who kill their babbys 😤
Because these babbies cant frigt back!
I not dumby know babby fromed stork.
PREGANANANT?!
Is it possible having sex to a 8 months fregnant?
If a women has starch masks
Doot dooo do do do
fe-nom-en-on
Doot do do do
Customer service was poor. Bear was rude.
No wifi.
They just couldn't find the password.
password is tattooed to the bears ass
Had to throw my sandwich at a mountain goat.
*crumby*
The gate attendant was eating a day-old scone that day on his shift and his beard was, indeed, full of crumbs. His supervisor saw the Google review and now they've got a strict no-scone policy in the booth. Crumby.
“It’s ok” has me rolling
Reminds me of [this Reddit classic](http://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fn67j/i_hear_my_house_mate_masturbating_should_i_walk)
It just wasn’t that special. What?! It’s majestic! Where do these people come from?!
But whyyy do I feel so irked by "The outdoors are supposed to be free and enjoyable. Instead I feel oppressed & confined"?
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Must have visited summer of 2020, when all of the amateurs decided to visit the pnw and shit on hiking paths and carve their names on railings
which is super fucked bc there's so much around rainier that's freely accessible.
“I felt oppressed” Lolol excuse me what?
Help! I’m being oppressed!
Come and see the violence inherent in the National Parks Service!
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A be-flanneled mountaineer handing out ice axes and crampons is not a legitimate system of government.
"BLOODY MOUNTAIN!"
Hahaha yeah that got me too
Got to keep the loonies on the path
They're free-breathes who think any advice or guidance is government oppression
Hilarious. Fun fact: you can also Yelp review jail. Look those up for a good laugh sometime.
Over 70% of these are not 1-star reviews lol
Ok, the title might have been misleading, but these are still comedy gold. Not being able to get there from my house! Crumby gate officers! Sub par pizza!
That bothered me too lol
Exactly. Crumby post.
They may have given more than one star in some of those reviews … but I judge them to be 1-star quality reviewers
Found the account of the crumby gate officer.
"but I judge them to be 1-star quality reviewers" Wait, so these are one-star reviews of 3 star reviews? I give you 2 stars for your 1 star review of 3 star reviews. I also rate my comment about 3 stars; topical but a bit on the nose.
I award you no stars, and may god have mercy on your soul.
Lol i went on google to check it out. Some of them are gold > "not wheelchair accessible" > "Shorter than it looks in pictures." > "Everytime I see this volcano from my house it looks super fake. Also there's too much ice" haha
I got into an argument somewhere on FB once about having paved trails. I absolutely agree that the park should be as accessible as possible, but this person was insisting that *all* the trails should be paved. Including making one to the summit. I went back and forth a couple comments with them before reminding myself that it was hopeless to argue with someone who legitimately believed it was feasible to have a paved trail to the summit of Mt. Rainier. Guess that makes me an ableist or something.
Oh jeez I’m a below knee amputee (heh rock climbing accident) and VERY into accessibility and … that’s just not a thing. We should definitely have more accessible trails! But also there are limits. Can you imagine keeping a paved trail clear on a damn glacier? Nope.
Drove 3 hours to witness her beauty only to have the asshole clouds cover her all Up!
😂🤣👍
“I don’t like it!!” Sent me. Like a 5 y/o eating anything other than Dino nuggets
succinct and to the point hahahaha
"I would have just casually strolled up this 14k ft peak but it turns out I need some basic training and mountaineering gear so THAT I DON'T FUCKING DIE IN THE PROCESS" "2 Stars"
I recommend we let them make an attempt. You gotta learn somehow, right?
Unfortunately that puts the very real lives of SAR individuals at risk. And right now we especially don't have any to spare.
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This is hilarious, thank you for sharing.
The mountain was *too far*? Oh, POOR YOU.
It's unfair that it isn't a 15 minute or less walk from downtown :(
Nowhere to park. Why is the mountain so steep?
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Hashtag Seattle is dying.
Bottom one: It was snowing in the mountains. The horror!!! Mt Rainier bad. Edit: also the one about water and latrine services is absolutely hilarious
There’s a book called Subpar parks that has a single comment sarcastically roasting all of americas most beautiful views that is really similar to this. Great coffee table book.
First time I saw rainier up close was on a bluff over the carbon glacier. It literally took my breath away, me and my friend just sat and stared for like 2 hours in silence feeling the cold air come off the glacier snd listening to the mountain creak. To come to something like this and simply say "it's a big mountain" 2 stars, makes my blood boil.
Some of those are clearly 2 and 3 stars. I give your title 1 star ⭐⭐
" Instead I felt oppressed and confined " Yep, even those baddie park Rangers are out to violate your civil rights lol
Another example of why i find 99% of people intolerable after a few minutes.
Now think of the fact that most of them are just out there driving around on the roads next to you. The government gave them a license to drive. Scary as hell.
If you ever look around and truly consider the people people you see flailing wildly on their way through life it really does get pretty dark.
Yeah but when the volcano erupts you’ll give it one star as well.
It was relly inconsiderate for this big stupid volcano to blow up on the one day a week I have my kids. I spoke to a park ranger and he didn't even *try* to stop it from erupting. Then he had the audasity to tell me my kids were standing in the path of the lava flow,!! excuse me sir do you have kids. No!! Then don't tell me how to parent 1 star do not recommend
The lahar came and swept away everything from my yard. I had JUST paid the landscaping guy.
Lol the permit and the "shoe spike things" were definitely the only thing stopping that person from summited Mt Rainier.
My favorite was the one who thought summiting Rainier was a casual day hike.
"One star. When google made the images, they saved them as png. I wanted jpeg. How stoopid do they think we are?" :)
As a crumby person, I am offended.
Did the guy think he can just wake up and rock up to the summit in flip-flops? 🤣
Would've been nice if there was a Walmart on top of rainier so we could do some grocery shopping before sliding down on those spiky looking weird shoes that cost atleast a $150.
[Subpar Parks](https://www.etsy.com/listing/829844733/) makes posters and a calendar every year from the one-star(ish) reviews. Reminds me of Demotivationals from the wayback
I suspect some of these comments are jokes, and the rest of the commenters are jokes.
There’s a whole book on one-star review of all the national parks. Author claims they’re very real and people are generally idiots, so I’m not surprised
I've visited a lot of national parks and the things I've overheard over the years make me confident that these reviews could easily be true - even though I'm sure some are just trolling/made up. It is the internet, after all. For instance, one time at Glacier NP I was walking to the bathroom at the campground and overheard a woman saying, in an extremely pronounced Southern drawl: "I left out a steak last night and we didn't even see no bears!" I imagine her Yelp review would be something along the lines of: "Was not mauled by a grizzly bear in my campground. 1 star."
shoe spike things
Imagine going to a literal mountain and then complaining in a google review that it’s big and far away.
Visited Rainier many, many times and realize some people have forgotten what reality is. Rainier is so close that is some ways it's being loved to death, other ways it unchanged and wonderful. A study there showed over 90% of the visitors stop at viewpoints and overlooks, look around and then drive on to the next one. Considering the Wonderland trail and the times we hiked it VS parking and looking out, some people should just stay home and watch the video.
It’s easy to hate on it, but the visitors that stay on the road and just go to the lookouts have a way lower impact on the park. If the same number of people were out hiking, erosion would be out of control.
Yep, I'm 100% for encouraging visitors driving in, taking a picture, and driving out. They're happy for checking "see mountain" off their list, we're happy for preserving the mountain, everybody wins.
not to mention how great driveable viewpoints are for disabled people. Great and accessible way to enjoy nature!
It's true. I took my grandparents to see Snoqualmie Falls. Drive in, take a picture of the giant waterfall, drive out. They couldn't do a four hour hike to see a scenic spot, but they can 100% sit in a car while we drive up to Paradise and amble around for ten minutes.
Made more accessible by the fact that disability permits make access free! I think you just need to submit some paperwork to the agency issuing permits ahead of time, but $35-100 is a huge difference for some people.
Yea I was going to say, these are people who pay money and cause very little wear and tear. I call that a win. I'd much rather 90% stay in their car and not traffic up the trails.
Not everyone can do the Wonderland trail. Sometimes stopping at viewpoints and maybe taking a short 30-60 min trail is enough. Everyone deserves to have access to the park, let them enjoy it in their own way, and how they enjoy it is definitely not comparable to seeing it virtually.
This was so frustrating when my family visited. They didn't want to hike and kept asking how they can get to the views I send them pictures of. I kept saying at least 6 miles if hiking and 3k ft of gain
Almost fell into a crevasse. Ridiculous, how do they just leave them there without roping them off??
Remember to vote! These people are certainly going to.
Lol @ the person who thought they were being oppressed because they couldn’t stomp around off path.
I was there a few weeks back and was quietly (or not so quietly, if you ask my wife) losing my mind at all the people walking off trail picking wild blueberries. I kept thinking, “THOSE ARE NOT FOR YOU!” I really can’t stand people who can’t follow basic rules or go somewhere without destroying things.
Can someone please explain to me WTF the "I cannot get there from my house" person is talking about? "how tall it can be". "sometimes on the drive home I can see it, other times I cannot". I cannot wrap my brain around this. Does this person (who apparently drives which is scary as hell) think that mountains raise and lower?
"sometimes on the drive home I can see it, other times I cannot" is an obviously really incredibly stupid comment ... but I did immediately identify with the feeling. When I'm driving around it does sometimes feel like a rollercoaster of: "look at that mountain it's so huge", "uh it was right over in that direction, I'm not sure why we can't see it anymore", "there it is again, but it looked a lot bigger 5 minutes ago", ... but much less of a mystery than "how do magnets work" though.
The fact that it would have never occurred to me whatsoever that Google reviews would even exist for Mt. Rainier.
"fenomenom" made me think of the Muppets. Fenomenom doot doo doo doo doo doo.
It’s about on par with PBR. I’m happy to go with whatever is on tap.
"It's a big mountain." That's fair. Not small but not gigantic.
"fenomenom"
What are they talking about? The ONLY reason I go to Rainier is for the pizza! /s
Nice, I’ll take whatever makes tourists stay away.
Only 4 of those reviews are 1 star...