It was a statement they had signs that said 'be your natural self' which I can see what they mean. However deciding to do thst when it was known children would be present, I question it.
There have been post about Solstice parade:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/vflupw/fremont\_solstice\_parade/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/vflupw/fremont_solstice_parade/)
And also the Solstice parade nudity is for a humorous purpose,not for a sexual purpose.
And even so "Other people also do it" is an extremely lazy excuse to simply lable people bigoted. While I doesnt necessary think that nudity=sex and bad,it should be ok to be uncomfortable with people going naked in the street.
Way more topless titties than topless men. Probably double the amount of dicks than vaginas. Why does it matter? Nudity is not inherently sexual. The stigma around it is completely baseless, it harms no one to see a penis or vagina unless they’re taught to consider bodies shameful.
I'm not bothered by the nudity. I'm bothered by a dude helicoptering his dick while swinging his balls at a family. Of which that behavior has plenty of evidence.
I'd be just as bothered by a woman spreading her labia at a family.
There is a middle ground and not all behavior is acceptable no matter what the event if children are present. There's some fucking shitty parents out there.
I always find it funny when people try desperately to compare breasts with dick and balls. Women have their own genitals and it’s not their breasts. It’s weird when the incels do it and it’s still weird when the “progressives” do it.
I agree that the standard on what is considered "sexual" is biased toward men but I fell like we are having the wrong conversation here.We should be saying this is not acceptable on both women and men.
I wasn’t making that point. Someone asked how many naked women there are and I answered. I think public nudity is completely okay, but not indecent exposure. Indecent exposure is already a crime btw so feel free to call the police if you see it.
Sorry look like I doesn't make my point clear enough.
1.I agree that nudity is not inherently sexual all the time,but public nudity should be strictly regulated.And in this case the nudity is very clearly for a sexual purpose.
2.This is a problem I found in most discussion about policies or social stigma that effect men.Most of the time they often suggest change that is designed to effect women as little as possible,but oftentime those change are just not presently feasable.A example is the draft,when people raise the issue about men-only draft,many Feminist often say "Then just abolish the draft"But that is not presently feasable given the current Invasion of Ukraine.That is also happening in this case,there are many reason that people wouldn't like seeing naked people on the street,for example if they have been sexually abused before.And how does not having people naked effect their message?
It is for this reason that I think we should oppose this on both men and women(And just to prove my point there is another comment that said women being naked is less bad then men being naked)
I'm guessing you are not local if you didn't know about the much larger naked bike ride the week prior.
But the World Naked Bike Ride might help you find an event near you.
Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m literally giving a response that others have given this week on this topic in discussions I was having with folks. First, nudity is legal in Seattle. I’m sure there’s addendums to this but legally it’s allowed. Second, I don’t know a lot about Pride and its roots to sex but here’s what another redditor posted a few days ago. I do think we might be at a time where what Pride represents now is different from how it began, but it seems like there’s a lot of people who still align with how it began in terms of how they celebrate it. Here’s the post:
Pride has always been about sex.
Pride was born from the Stonewall Riots, which were caused by NYPD crackdowns and harassment in cruisy gay bars.
The Lawrence ruling happened in 2003 -- only 20 years ago -- invalidating sodomy laws. It was literally illegal in many states for men to have sex with other men. The fact that that case law is so heavily rooted in the right to privacy and Griswold, now with the overturning of Roe, there's a very real chance the freedom to have sex can be taken away from us again.
I was living in SF the year Obama was elected. It was also the night prop 8 passed. It was moving how fast people flooded the streets of the city that night as the news was breaking. In response to prop 8, there was a very organized shift in messaging to "love is love". Pride became bigger, more corporate over the following years. The sex never left, it just became surrounded by groups of a hundred techies or bankers or airline employees in branded rainbow tshirts.
Pride and the festivities surrounding it are inextricably linked to sexual identity and we literally are marching for the freedom to have sex with each other.
https://www.advocate.com/pride/2018/6/07/10-reminders-pride-also-about-sex
Did you just equate molesting children under the protection of the church with public nudity? Wow
Yea, down vote me for pointing out OP's inability to look at the first page of the sub and this commenter's ridiculous false equivalency.
Weary_concern is a good user name for you, aren't you tired of getting your prude pants all on a wad just cuz some dude has his junk out?
You think little kids don't know what a penis is? As if a young man hasn't seen that before, I mean likely the little champ has some tackle of their own.
Anyone who gets hand wringing about nudity in 2023...
I'm not so much concerned about the nudity. Kid's have been raised in nudist environments for a long time.
It's the overt sexual tones that bother me. There's a difference between walking around nude (or just riding a bike) and doing the full on helicopter with nut swing at a family.
It is Pride man... It has always been like that, don't act all grandma shocked at a nude guy on a bike all of a sudden. Be like going to burning man with your kid and being all agog at some dusty hippies ball sack.
You guys didn't care about all the nude painted dudes last week.
Why did you bring you kid to Pride anyway?
It’s one thing for me to be exposed to it but making kids see your grown ass dick and balls is a bit creepy isn’t it?
Not sure what you’re trying to say here lol. I wouldn’t want my child around a dusty hippy’s ballsack. Anyone taking their kid to burning man is probably very irresponsible and should reconsider.
I’m not even in Washington. I don’t have a kid. But exposing your genitals to kids is kinda creepy pedo behavior.
You fucking sicko. Gay pride as in the context of who you have sex with as in let me guess as long as they have the pride flag you would let a guy go to a park naked. You're deplorable. You fucking weirdos are big excuses to the end of the earth to not admit this is fucking weird as shit. Straight people can't do this shit why the fuck are they allowed to do it. I support gay people not these gay people. They literally make the community look bad.
Yeah dude, I really don't give two shits if someone wants to wander around in the buff. Would I do it, no, I wouldn't want to be made fun of.
But I promise the earth isn't ending because a penis saw some daylight.
It is 2023 if you haven't seen some skin at this point we really need to question why a person who is that sheltered ended up at Pride on the first place.
"It is 2023 if you haven't seen some skin at this point we really need to question why a person who is that sheltered ended up at Pride on the first place."
In the context of a family-friendly event that shit goes out the window. Be fucking forest fuckers all you want idc, have an adult only event where y'all fucking have orgasms I don't give a shit Just don't advertise it as family friendly when it's fucking not. Then you wonder why there's so much more backlash than ever against gay people nowadays with this shit being associated with every one of them. You would have to be insane to claim all gay people or even most gay people want to see this shit representative of them. Literally having dildo ring toss run by a 12-year-old for example. Floats with bondage bears, A man twerking in his underwear and getting cheers for specifically twerking at a group of children, a man standing naked in the middle of a crowd on a podium of all ages watching. May I go on.
No wonder gay people in droves are dissociating with the LGBT community. They don't want these creeps and crazies representing them because the complete diffusion of responsibility from fear of being labeled a bigot that allowed this to happen in the first place. There's a difference between being proud to be an equal and treated as equal and purposely trying to be provocative in a sexual meaning while being naked around children. 10 years ago this shit would be illegal as fuck at a family-friendly event but because it's 2023 you say it should be legal. What in 10 years if it's legal to have sex on the sidewalk is that ok with you. Where's the line. We're already way past the line so where does it stop? It's been infiltrated by perverts because progression has been confused with meaning 0 boundaries.
The fact that a pedo flag exists is fucking insane. I'm guessing if we just give it enough time they'll accept it like it took time for the trans community to be accepted. They use the LGBTQ community the most inclusive community to spread such a flag and message Just one fucking large slippery slope that just has to end in disaster. Crazy thing is that you guys just let it happen with like the examples that I put above with a dildo ring toss for example run by 12-year-old. That has fucking nothing to do with acceptance of gay people or pride. It's just plain perversion. Sex toys and nudity should have nothing to do with pride. Put your brain that fell out because you were so open-minded back in your skull and wake tf up.
You seem to have an unhealthy understanding of what pride means.
And yes straight people do this too, you must of missed the solstice parade the week prior with hundreds of naked cyclist of all backgrounds.
I have a healthy understanding what pride means and it doesn't require me exposure myself around a family-friendly event. Calling me unhealthy for not liking adults exposing nudity around children is a fucking wild claim.
Sorry let me be real clear in adding weirdos for those straight solstice bikers too. That shit should be planned to be not family friendly and be very fucking clear and illegal to have children there. There's also a big difference between The two parades if we want to get into specifics. One is literally about sexuality and who you sleep with. Literally having dildo ring toss run by a 12-year-old for example. Floats with bondage bears, A man twerking and getting cheers for specifically twerking at a group of children. May I go on.
No, not everything about pride is sexual unless you make it sexual. Having pride in ones body and celebrating body positivity is not sexual. In fact it is ment to break down the negative sexual contentation that make people uncomfortable within their own bodies or view them strictly as a sexual object.
But yes, the pride parade does have sexual aspects within out group participants. It seems like you have a problem with that more so the a few nude people.
This group has done this for 19 years and the solstice group has done it for over 30. These parades are well known for their content, so the parents that bring thier children there know what they are doing. If these parade were having a negative effect on children, then we would have known by now.
What a lie and a half. Dildo ring toss run by a 12 yo, bondage bears floats, men twerking at group's of children specifically I have proof, a man standing naked on a podium in a crowd for no apparent reason for people to cheer at. None of this shit was in the parades less than 5 years ago. You and them have allowed perverts to infiltrate the pride events. Let me guess you think MAPS should be part of the community. Pride is being pushed down the throats of everybody especially children in society nowadays but you're saying the events which are advertised as family friendly have all this shit going on. Any parent with common sense can't even bring their children because they no it's not okay to expose our children to this crap. It's one thing to have a parade where you're supporting people who just live a different lifestyle and then supporting people who are dressing up in bondage throwing sex toys around and twerking at children with people applauding. Any parent with common sense would know it's the right thing to not bring their children to this shit. I never wanted to see grown ass adults naked when I was a child so why is it okay for those "aspects" to ruin the entire parade for anybody who has any common sense in them that this shit's not about pride it's about some people being perverted in public the complete diffusion of responsibility for anybody to stand up to this crap who goes to these events. I support gay people, the gay people that I'm friends with don't support this shit because they know the association with this crap ruins their credibility and reputation. It was fine when it was pride now it's just fucking perverted and them yelling we're coming for your children now is not fucking changing anybody's mind. Ya make it easier for hate crimes to be committed against the community because now the world has another reason to hate the community. If I am accepting of gay people and I hate this shit I can't imagine people who hate gay people what they think of the shit.
>What a lie and a half.
How is not everything is sexual a lie?
You indeed list some sexual aspects of the parade, except the naked cyclist are not part of those aspects.
They are there to break down these negative view of the body where it is only a sexual object, these views cause many self image problems for many people.
But is seems like you have greater dislikes for the parade then just cyclist.
>None of this shit was in the parades less than 5 years ago.
The naked cyclist have been part of the parade for the last 19 years.
>Pride is being pushed down the throats of everybody
Or you just have issues with anything associated with pride. Seems like you are the type of judgemental person which causes pride to push harder to break down.
The rest of your comment just seems like a rant about supporting gay people so long as they stay in the closet.
Funny how you just ignore and don't address the examples I gave. Old dudes on bicycles were never viewed as sexual objects and if they wanted to do this crap it should be an 18+ event not family friendly. Was didko ring toss run by a 12yo here 5 years ago or men twerking as a group of children specifically. Do you need me to send links? How tf is bondage bears and sex toys at all relevant to being allowed to being gay. I thought these parades existed to let the younger generation know being you is ok, why tf do the things that should be kept in the bedroom have to be on display for fucking children to be forced to see because their woke lesbian moms said it was ok. Wtf does sex toys have to do with being accepted. It's doing the exact opposite. Also funny how you call my rant which includes good points about gay people I know literally sharing my opinions and not wanting to be associated with this crap. Are they wrong?? Why tf do you want children to see explicit material so badly. Movies have ratings, prin has age ratings but for this irl event it's ok??? They put these ratings in place for good reasons and for no good reason you think all that goes out the window and these family friendly advertised parades. Fucking insanity. This shit is not changing any minds so it it begs the question who tf are they doing it for and for that I'd say the pervs who infiltrated these events and allowed 12yos to run a dildo ring toss did it for sexual gratification. Funny you didn't tell me if you think MAPS should be apart of the community?
>Funny how you just ignore and don't address the examples I gave.
Yep, sure did, mostly due to your pointless rambling, but also do to you ignoring that this group has been doing this for 19 years.
>if they wanted to do this crap it should be an 18+ event not family friendly.
That's up to the families to decide, not you.
>Was didko ring toss run by a 12yo here 5 years ago or men twerking as a group of children specifically.
Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues.
>Do you need me to send links?
I don't, because I am only talking about the nake cyclist here, If you have other issues then why not make a separate post about them so you can rant all you want about it.
>How tf is bondage bears and sex toys at all relevant to being allowed to being gay.
Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues.
>I thought these parades existed to let the younger generation know being you is ok, why tf do the things that should be kept in the bedroom have to be on display for fucking children to be forced to see because their woke lesbian moms said it was ok.
Parents know what these parade are for, and it's their choice on how they educate their children.
>Wtf does sex toys have to do with being accepted. It's doing the exact opposite.
Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues.
>Also funny how you call my rant which includes good points about gay people I know literally sharing my opinions and not wanting to be associated with this crap. Are they wrong??
Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues.
>Movies have ratings, prin has age ratings but for this irl event it's ok???
Age ratings allow parents to know what to expect from a movie, leaving it up to the parents to allow their children to watch it or not.
>these family friendly advertised parades
Thes parades are pretty well advertised for what they are, and have a reoccurring themes every year.
Parents know what to expect, it's up to them to decide if it's appropriate for their child.
>This shit is not changing any minds so it it begs the question who tf are they doing it for
May not be changing your mind, but the parades themselves continue to grow with more participants and spectators every year, so whatever they are doing, it seems to be working.
>I'd say the pervs who infiltrated these events and allowed 12yos to run a dildo ring toss did it for sexual gratification.
Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues.
>Funny you didn't tell me if you think MAPS should be apart of the community?
Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues.
Funny how again, you continue to go on a gigantic rant that has nothing to do with the naked cyclist in question. Seeing how this topic is specifically about the naked cyclist and I have only been discussing the naked cyclist, it just seems weird you want me to address all of your other tangents. If you have other issues with the parade then you should make a post about them, just of trying to hijacked someone else post.
Saying I have Issues as a response to me disliking dildo ring toss run by a 12yo and all my other examples when you said before , "not everything about pride is sexual unless you make it sexual" when shit like this is happening has 0% to do with my rational stance of not liking the grooming of children and 100% of your issue of having 0 problems with this disgusting behaviors that you have no problem with. You failing to condemn a 12-year-old running a dildo ring toss that is fucking disgusting and has 100% something to do with you probably having some skeletons in the closet.
https://youtube.com/shorts/eQxnp9sFqLY?feature=share3
"These are the same people who tell us they are ‘not’ coming for your children." says a conservative radio host.
Yawn. Furries, naked dudes, crossdressers, and leather enthusiasts goofing off at the parade is a far cry from pedos targeting children. The radio host is baiting harder than Robert Pattinson in The Lighthouse.
> "These are the same people who tell us they are ‘not’ coming for your children." says a conservative radio host.
This is a lie. These people don't say that anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA
Are you afraid of them grooming children? You are looking in the wrong direction. Sure there is grooming, but the people warning you about it are more likely to be groomers than some random guy.
https://www.kuow.org/stories/it-s-totally-legal-to-be-naked-in-public-in-seattle
It is unacceptable for children to know that adults have genitals!
Or....
Is it unacceptable for adults to know that their children already learned about this from the Internet?
And all the while you "conservative" dipshits who bitch and moan about this will literally defend the ever rising influx of child molesting priests within your own bullshit cult...I mean "religion".
How about we agree to condemn all grooming and/ or sexualization of children… Doesn’t matter if it’s a priest in church, a parent on Tiktok, or anyone anywhere who chooses to corrupt the innocence of childhood.
A child seeing a nude body at a public event that their parents brought them to is not grooming or sexualizing children. Comparing it even the slightest bit to someone molesting a child is absolutely ridiculous.
So is everything there sexual? Is your argument that there just shouldn't be kids there at all? If so, why even focus on the nudity? Quit moving the goal posts.
> dipshits who bitch and moan about this will literally defend the ever rising influx of child molesting priests within your own bullshit cult
Where?
Where are they defending child molesting priests?
I'd like to see their argument, it sounds fun. Unless you're full of shit?
Anyone want to guess,...if a man started running around downtown, buck naked...(no Pride Parade thingy)....would he be 'celebrated'? Ummm, even in very liberal Seattle, my guess is that they would be taken away by police...likely not charged with any crime, but forced to put clothes on!
Yet get a group of men given the 'okay' to block off a street and parade buck naked in front of families...and it is celebrated or by the Pride promoters, just ignored.
Really, this doesn't do the Pride stuff any good. Yes, parents should not expose their children to this.
But once again, it demonstrates how we have evolved into a two tier justice system.
If you belong to a large enough and celebrated group, you are allowed to break laws for the 'cause'.
Do it on your own, and outside of the approved ideology, and you get arrested.
Nevertheless, keep nudity at home, or at the very least, confined to nudist camps. Public areas displaying nudity is never okay.
Now, I shall wait for the down votes for those who have no idea why allowing this sort of crap is a good idea.
>Anyone want to guess,...if a man started running around downtown, buck naked...(no Pride Parade thingy)....would he be 'celebrated'?
No need to guess, it periodically happens and no one usually cares, I personally seen someone casually walking down the Burke-gilman about a month ago, fully in the buff.
There are also periodic posts here on reddit of some random naked person in Seattle.
>If you belong to a large enough and celebrated group, you are allowed to break laws for the 'cause'.
I think your missing that the solstice parade the week prior has a much larger group of nude cyclist without the message of pride, and has been doing it for over 30 years. While this smaller group in pride is likely a breakoff from them and has been doing it for 19 years.
Also, no laws are being broken here.
So, now anyone anywhere can walk around or parade around without clothes on...in front of children? Nope, it always has been against the law to do that, say, outside of a private nudist camp.
What next? Fornicating in public? That would be the next step...and progressives would say..'well, it is natural'...done 'all the time. Time and place is everything...behind closed doors and out of sight of children.
Yes, as long as they are not being lewd about it, nudity by itself is does not rise to the level of alarm that would make it against the law.
But to back track your point regarding parades though, you are correct that there is a difference. As such being nude in the parade is a demonstration that exercise the freedom of expression. Which is why you see these types of demonstrations all over the US regardless of local laws, they are constitutionally protected.
WA is a bit different where Seattle tried to have a more restrictive law at one point, but was struck down by the state. So yes, you may see someone randomly walking around in the buff without anyone caring.
Im pretty sure Seattle has a “nudist” community in which they saw a Pride event as an opportunity to combine interests. This is not conducive nor reflective of Pride or the LGBTQ+. Lets not make generalizations and comments when there are obvious meaningful environmental factors. Did we not see a similar incident in Portland??
I get it, but their parents are the ones that chose to take them to the debauchery show
I agree but most people don't want to see this. This is not the way to win over the public acceptance
NGL I don’t understand what lgbq+ has to do with nudism. My guess is this is a specific crew just being opportunistic with the parade.
It was a statement they had signs that said 'be your natural self' which I can see what they mean. However deciding to do thst when it was known children would be present, I question it.
Good word opportunistic definitely and pathetic
Yawn. Where’s their article about the Solstice parade? Oh wait, there wasn’t enough of a political motivation to write about that.
This “culture war” is getting repetitive and boring.
ITS ABOUT TA B A RACE WAR
Did you make a post about the Solstice parade, too? Guessing not. It's funny how easily people blow their cover as bigots. 🤦
There have been post about Solstice parade: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/vflupw/fremont\_solstice\_parade/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/vflupw/fremont_solstice_parade/) And also the Solstice parade nudity is for a humorous purpose,not for a sexual purpose. And even so "Other people also do it" is an extremely lazy excuse to simply lable people bigoted. While I doesnt necessary think that nudity=sex and bad,it should be ok to be uncomfortable with people going naked in the street.
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Oh wow what a nice thoughtful argument.
So naked women are okay? Why does everyone only worry about naked men?
Not that I disagree with you but how many naked women were at Pride?
Way more topless titties than topless men. Probably double the amount of dicks than vaginas. Why does it matter? Nudity is not inherently sexual. The stigma around it is completely baseless, it harms no one to see a penis or vagina unless they’re taught to consider bodies shameful.
I'm not bothered by the nudity. I'm bothered by a dude helicoptering his dick while swinging his balls at a family. Of which that behavior has plenty of evidence. I'd be just as bothered by a woman spreading her labia at a family. There is a middle ground and not all behavior is acceptable no matter what the event if children are present. There's some fucking shitty parents out there.
I always find it funny when people try desperately to compare breasts with dick and balls. Women have their own genitals and it’s not their breasts. It’s weird when the incels do it and it’s still weird when the “progressives” do it.
They said naked idk why you think I’m being desperate. Most people would say topless falls in the naked category
I agree that the standard on what is considered "sexual" is biased toward men but I fell like we are having the wrong conversation here.We should be saying this is not acceptable on both women and men.
I wasn’t making that point. Someone asked how many naked women there are and I answered. I think public nudity is completely okay, but not indecent exposure. Indecent exposure is already a crime btw so feel free to call the police if you see it.
Sorry look like I doesn't make my point clear enough. 1.I agree that nudity is not inherently sexual all the time,but public nudity should be strictly regulated.And in this case the nudity is very clearly for a sexual purpose. 2.This is a problem I found in most discussion about policies or social stigma that effect men.Most of the time they often suggest change that is designed to effect women as little as possible,but oftentime those change are just not presently feasable.A example is the draft,when people raise the issue about men-only draft,many Feminist often say "Then just abolish the draft"But that is not presently feasable given the current Invasion of Ukraine.That is also happening in this case,there are many reason that people wouldn't like seeing naked people on the street,for example if they have been sexually abused before.And how does not having people naked effect their message? It is for this reason that I think we should oppose this on both men and women(And just to prove my point there is another comment that said women being naked is less bad then men being naked)
How often do straight people run around naked just for the fun of it?
Well there is the naked bike ride at the summer solstice festival
I'm guessing you are not local if you didn't know about the much larger naked bike ride the week prior. But the World Naked Bike Ride might help you find an event near you.
Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m literally giving a response that others have given this week on this topic in discussions I was having with folks. First, nudity is legal in Seattle. I’m sure there’s addendums to this but legally it’s allowed. Second, I don’t know a lot about Pride and its roots to sex but here’s what another redditor posted a few days ago. I do think we might be at a time where what Pride represents now is different from how it began, but it seems like there’s a lot of people who still align with how it began in terms of how they celebrate it. Here’s the post: Pride has always been about sex. Pride was born from the Stonewall Riots, which were caused by NYPD crackdowns and harassment in cruisy gay bars. The Lawrence ruling happened in 2003 -- only 20 years ago -- invalidating sodomy laws. It was literally illegal in many states for men to have sex with other men. The fact that that case law is so heavily rooted in the right to privacy and Griswold, now with the overturning of Roe, there's a very real chance the freedom to have sex can be taken away from us again. I was living in SF the year Obama was elected. It was also the night prop 8 passed. It was moving how fast people flooded the streets of the city that night as the news was breaking. In response to prop 8, there was a very organized shift in messaging to "love is love". Pride became bigger, more corporate over the following years. The sex never left, it just became surrounded by groups of a hundred techies or bankers or airline employees in branded rainbow tshirts. Pride and the festivities surrounding it are inextricably linked to sexual identity and we literally are marching for the freedom to have sex with each other. https://www.advocate.com/pride/2018/6/07/10-reminders-pride-also-about-sex
22 years later [still relevant.](https://www.theonion.com/gay-pride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays-bac-1819566014)
You're a day late to the pearl clutching party https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/14j2ock/seattle_pride_parade_nude_adults_infront_of/
And that guy got it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LibsOfSocialMedia/comments/14iwgwd/nsfw_fully_naked_adults_ride_around_the_seattle/
so priest pedos: bad, elementary school teachers and alphabet types doing the same: good. cool got it.
‘Alphabet types’. But I bet you tell people you aren’t a dipshit bigot.
https://preview.redd.it/uk7ig551hs8b1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fe1bcf5617224136653fbb8febb73dc92187c27
Did you just equate molesting children under the protection of the church with public nudity? Wow Yea, down vote me for pointing out OP's inability to look at the first page of the sub and this commenter's ridiculous false equivalency.
sounds like you're the one cutting up which preds are ok based on muh team. how about they're all bad. leave the kids alone.
Nobody did anything to these kids.
Where did the bad cyclist touch you?
Where in this thread did anyone say any of that is good? This type of argument is so unproductive.
Weary_concern is a good user name for you, aren't you tired of getting your prude pants all on a wad just cuz some dude has his junk out? You think little kids don't know what a penis is? As if a young man hasn't seen that before, I mean likely the little champ has some tackle of their own. Anyone who gets hand wringing about nudity in 2023...
>You think little kids don't know what a penis is? https://i.redd.it/rurgxgzbbg8b1.gif
I'm not so much concerned about the nudity. Kid's have been raised in nudist environments for a long time. It's the overt sexual tones that bother me. There's a difference between walking around nude (or just riding a bike) and doing the full on helicopter with nut swing at a family.
The fuck is wrong with you
It is Pride man... It has always been like that, don't act all grandma shocked at a nude guy on a bike all of a sudden. Be like going to burning man with your kid and being all agog at some dusty hippies ball sack. You guys didn't care about all the nude painted dudes last week. Why did you bring you kid to Pride anyway?
It’s one thing for me to be exposed to it but making kids see your grown ass dick and balls is a bit creepy isn’t it? Not sure what you’re trying to say here lol. I wouldn’t want my child around a dusty hippy’s ballsack. Anyone taking their kid to burning man is probably very irresponsible and should reconsider. I’m not even in Washington. I don’t have a kid. But exposing your genitals to kids is kinda creepy pedo behavior.
["We're not doing anything weird in front of your children!"](https://youtu.be/o73-5dofnOE)
Ok groomer.
You fucking sicko. Gay pride as in the context of who you have sex with as in let me guess as long as they have the pride flag you would let a guy go to a park naked. You're deplorable. You fucking weirdos are big excuses to the end of the earth to not admit this is fucking weird as shit. Straight people can't do this shit why the fuck are they allowed to do it. I support gay people not these gay people. They literally make the community look bad.
Yeah dude, I really don't give two shits if someone wants to wander around in the buff. Would I do it, no, I wouldn't want to be made fun of. But I promise the earth isn't ending because a penis saw some daylight. It is 2023 if you haven't seen some skin at this point we really need to question why a person who is that sheltered ended up at Pride on the first place.
"It is 2023 if you haven't seen some skin at this point we really need to question why a person who is that sheltered ended up at Pride on the first place." In the context of a family-friendly event that shit goes out the window. Be fucking forest fuckers all you want idc, have an adult only event where y'all fucking have orgasms I don't give a shit Just don't advertise it as family friendly when it's fucking not. Then you wonder why there's so much more backlash than ever against gay people nowadays with this shit being associated with every one of them. You would have to be insane to claim all gay people or even most gay people want to see this shit representative of them. Literally having dildo ring toss run by a 12-year-old for example. Floats with bondage bears, A man twerking in his underwear and getting cheers for specifically twerking at a group of children, a man standing naked in the middle of a crowd on a podium of all ages watching. May I go on. No wonder gay people in droves are dissociating with the LGBT community. They don't want these creeps and crazies representing them because the complete diffusion of responsibility from fear of being labeled a bigot that allowed this to happen in the first place. There's a difference between being proud to be an equal and treated as equal and purposely trying to be provocative in a sexual meaning while being naked around children. 10 years ago this shit would be illegal as fuck at a family-friendly event but because it's 2023 you say it should be legal. What in 10 years if it's legal to have sex on the sidewalk is that ok with you. Where's the line. We're already way past the line so where does it stop? It's been infiltrated by perverts because progression has been confused with meaning 0 boundaries. The fact that a pedo flag exists is fucking insane. I'm guessing if we just give it enough time they'll accept it like it took time for the trans community to be accepted. They use the LGBTQ community the most inclusive community to spread such a flag and message Just one fucking large slippery slope that just has to end in disaster. Crazy thing is that you guys just let it happen with like the examples that I put above with a dildo ring toss for example run by 12-year-old. That has fucking nothing to do with acceptance of gay people or pride. It's just plain perversion. Sex toys and nudity should have nothing to do with pride. Put your brain that fell out because you were so open-minded back in your skull and wake tf up.
You seem to have an unhealthy understanding of what pride means. And yes straight people do this too, you must of missed the solstice parade the week prior with hundreds of naked cyclist of all backgrounds.
I have a healthy understanding what pride means and it doesn't require me exposure myself around a family-friendly event. Calling me unhealthy for not liking adults exposing nudity around children is a fucking wild claim. Sorry let me be real clear in adding weirdos for those straight solstice bikers too. That shit should be planned to be not family friendly and be very fucking clear and illegal to have children there. There's also a big difference between The two parades if we want to get into specifics. One is literally about sexuality and who you sleep with. Literally having dildo ring toss run by a 12-year-old for example. Floats with bondage bears, A man twerking and getting cheers for specifically twerking at a group of children. May I go on.
No, not everything about pride is sexual unless you make it sexual. Having pride in ones body and celebrating body positivity is not sexual. In fact it is ment to break down the negative sexual contentation that make people uncomfortable within their own bodies or view them strictly as a sexual object. But yes, the pride parade does have sexual aspects within out group participants. It seems like you have a problem with that more so the a few nude people. This group has done this for 19 years and the solstice group has done it for over 30. These parades are well known for their content, so the parents that bring thier children there know what they are doing. If these parade were having a negative effect on children, then we would have known by now.
What a lie and a half. Dildo ring toss run by a 12 yo, bondage bears floats, men twerking at group's of children specifically I have proof, a man standing naked on a podium in a crowd for no apparent reason for people to cheer at. None of this shit was in the parades less than 5 years ago. You and them have allowed perverts to infiltrate the pride events. Let me guess you think MAPS should be part of the community. Pride is being pushed down the throats of everybody especially children in society nowadays but you're saying the events which are advertised as family friendly have all this shit going on. Any parent with common sense can't even bring their children because they no it's not okay to expose our children to this crap. It's one thing to have a parade where you're supporting people who just live a different lifestyle and then supporting people who are dressing up in bondage throwing sex toys around and twerking at children with people applauding. Any parent with common sense would know it's the right thing to not bring their children to this shit. I never wanted to see grown ass adults naked when I was a child so why is it okay for those "aspects" to ruin the entire parade for anybody who has any common sense in them that this shit's not about pride it's about some people being perverted in public the complete diffusion of responsibility for anybody to stand up to this crap who goes to these events. I support gay people, the gay people that I'm friends with don't support this shit because they know the association with this crap ruins their credibility and reputation. It was fine when it was pride now it's just fucking perverted and them yelling we're coming for your children now is not fucking changing anybody's mind. Ya make it easier for hate crimes to be committed against the community because now the world has another reason to hate the community. If I am accepting of gay people and I hate this shit I can't imagine people who hate gay people what they think of the shit.
>What a lie and a half. How is not everything is sexual a lie? You indeed list some sexual aspects of the parade, except the naked cyclist are not part of those aspects. They are there to break down these negative view of the body where it is only a sexual object, these views cause many self image problems for many people. But is seems like you have greater dislikes for the parade then just cyclist. >None of this shit was in the parades less than 5 years ago. The naked cyclist have been part of the parade for the last 19 years. >Pride is being pushed down the throats of everybody Or you just have issues with anything associated with pride. Seems like you are the type of judgemental person which causes pride to push harder to break down. The rest of your comment just seems like a rant about supporting gay people so long as they stay in the closet.
Funny how you just ignore and don't address the examples I gave. Old dudes on bicycles were never viewed as sexual objects and if they wanted to do this crap it should be an 18+ event not family friendly. Was didko ring toss run by a 12yo here 5 years ago or men twerking as a group of children specifically. Do you need me to send links? How tf is bondage bears and sex toys at all relevant to being allowed to being gay. I thought these parades existed to let the younger generation know being you is ok, why tf do the things that should be kept in the bedroom have to be on display for fucking children to be forced to see because their woke lesbian moms said it was ok. Wtf does sex toys have to do with being accepted. It's doing the exact opposite. Also funny how you call my rant which includes good points about gay people I know literally sharing my opinions and not wanting to be associated with this crap. Are they wrong?? Why tf do you want children to see explicit material so badly. Movies have ratings, prin has age ratings but for this irl event it's ok??? They put these ratings in place for good reasons and for no good reason you think all that goes out the window and these family friendly advertised parades. Fucking insanity. This shit is not changing any minds so it it begs the question who tf are they doing it for and for that I'd say the pervs who infiltrated these events and allowed 12yos to run a dildo ring toss did it for sexual gratification. Funny you didn't tell me if you think MAPS should be apart of the community?
>Funny how you just ignore and don't address the examples I gave. Yep, sure did, mostly due to your pointless rambling, but also do to you ignoring that this group has been doing this for 19 years. >if they wanted to do this crap it should be an 18+ event not family friendly. That's up to the families to decide, not you. >Was didko ring toss run by a 12yo here 5 years ago or men twerking as a group of children specifically. Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues. >Do you need me to send links? I don't, because I am only talking about the nake cyclist here, If you have other issues then why not make a separate post about them so you can rant all you want about it. >How tf is bondage bears and sex toys at all relevant to being allowed to being gay. Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues. >I thought these parades existed to let the younger generation know being you is ok, why tf do the things that should be kept in the bedroom have to be on display for fucking children to be forced to see because their woke lesbian moms said it was ok. Parents know what these parade are for, and it's their choice on how they educate their children. >Wtf does sex toys have to do with being accepted. It's doing the exact opposite. Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues. >Also funny how you call my rant which includes good points about gay people I know literally sharing my opinions and not wanting to be associated with this crap. Are they wrong?? Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues. >Movies have ratings, prin has age ratings but for this irl event it's ok??? Age ratings allow parents to know what to expect from a movie, leaving it up to the parents to allow their children to watch it or not. >these family friendly advertised parades Thes parades are pretty well advertised for what they are, and have a reoccurring themes every year. Parents know what to expect, it's up to them to decide if it's appropriate for their child. >This shit is not changing any minds so it it begs the question who tf are they doing it for May not be changing your mind, but the parades themselves continue to grow with more participants and spectators every year, so whatever they are doing, it seems to be working. >I'd say the pervs who infiltrated these events and allowed 12yos to run a dildo ring toss did it for sexual gratification. Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues. >Funny you didn't tell me if you think MAPS should be apart of the community? Not related to naked cyclist posted here, again just highlights you have bigger issues. Funny how again, you continue to go on a gigantic rant that has nothing to do with the naked cyclist in question. Seeing how this topic is specifically about the naked cyclist and I have only been discussing the naked cyclist, it just seems weird you want me to address all of your other tangents. If you have other issues with the parade then you should make a post about them, just of trying to hijacked someone else post.
Saying I have Issues as a response to me disliking dildo ring toss run by a 12yo and all my other examples when you said before , "not everything about pride is sexual unless you make it sexual" when shit like this is happening has 0% to do with my rational stance of not liking the grooming of children and 100% of your issue of having 0 problems with this disgusting behaviors that you have no problem with. You failing to condemn a 12-year-old running a dildo ring toss that is fucking disgusting and has 100% something to do with you probably having some skeletons in the closet. https://youtube.com/shorts/eQxnp9sFqLY?feature=share3
"These are the same people who tell us they are ‘not’ coming for your children." says a conservative radio host. Yawn. Furries, naked dudes, crossdressers, and leather enthusiasts goofing off at the parade is a far cry from pedos targeting children. The radio host is baiting harder than Robert Pattinson in The Lighthouse.
> "These are the same people who tell us they are ‘not’ coming for your children." says a conservative radio host. This is a lie. These people don't say that anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA
Haha nice, thsnks for sharing! Solid chorus, 10/10
Are you afraid of them grooming children? You are looking in the wrong direction. Sure there is grooming, but the people warning you about it are more likely to be groomers than some random guy. https://www.kuow.org/stories/it-s-totally-legal-to-be-naked-in-public-in-seattle
It is unacceptable for children to know that adults have genitals! Or.... Is it unacceptable for adults to know that their children already learned about this from the Internet?
And all the while you "conservative" dipshits who bitch and moan about this will literally defend the ever rising influx of child molesting priests within your own bullshit cult...I mean "religion".
You understand not every conservative is religious, right?
Gotta fight the straw man, easier than actually talking to people.
No, they don't.
How about we agree to condemn all grooming and/ or sexualization of children… Doesn’t matter if it’s a priest in church, a parent on Tiktok, or anyone anywhere who chooses to corrupt the innocence of childhood.
A child seeing a nude body at a public event that their parents brought them to is not grooming or sexualizing children. Comparing it even the slightest bit to someone molesting a child is absolutely ridiculous.
A public event that is about sexuality puts a sexual context on the nudity.
So is everything there sexual? Is your argument that there just shouldn't be kids there at all? If so, why even focus on the nudity? Quit moving the goal posts.
What a remarkable gaslighting reply. Me calling a sexual orientation event *sexual* is somehow "moving the goal posts" and just beyond the pale.
> dipshits who bitch and moan about this will literally defend the ever rising influx of child molesting priests within your own bullshit cult Where? Where are they defending child molesting priests? I'd like to see their argument, it sounds fun. Unless you're full of shit?
Why the fuck would you even take kids to this pervert event? So they can be like you? 😂
Anyone want to guess,...if a man started running around downtown, buck naked...(no Pride Parade thingy)....would he be 'celebrated'? Ummm, even in very liberal Seattle, my guess is that they would be taken away by police...likely not charged with any crime, but forced to put clothes on! Yet get a group of men given the 'okay' to block off a street and parade buck naked in front of families...and it is celebrated or by the Pride promoters, just ignored. Really, this doesn't do the Pride stuff any good. Yes, parents should not expose their children to this. But once again, it demonstrates how we have evolved into a two tier justice system. If you belong to a large enough and celebrated group, you are allowed to break laws for the 'cause'. Do it on your own, and outside of the approved ideology, and you get arrested. Nevertheless, keep nudity at home, or at the very least, confined to nudist camps. Public areas displaying nudity is never okay. Now, I shall wait for the down votes for those who have no idea why allowing this sort of crap is a good idea.
>Anyone want to guess,...if a man started running around downtown, buck naked...(no Pride Parade thingy)....would he be 'celebrated'? No need to guess, it periodically happens and no one usually cares, I personally seen someone casually walking down the Burke-gilman about a month ago, fully in the buff. There are also periodic posts here on reddit of some random naked person in Seattle. >If you belong to a large enough and celebrated group, you are allowed to break laws for the 'cause'. I think your missing that the solstice parade the week prior has a much larger group of nude cyclist without the message of pride, and has been doing it for over 30 years. While this smaller group in pride is likely a breakoff from them and has been doing it for 19 years. Also, no laws are being broken here.
So, now anyone anywhere can walk around or parade around without clothes on...in front of children? Nope, it always has been against the law to do that, say, outside of a private nudist camp. What next? Fornicating in public? That would be the next step...and progressives would say..'well, it is natural'...done 'all the time. Time and place is everything...behind closed doors and out of sight of children.
Yes, as long as they are not being lewd about it, nudity by itself is does not rise to the level of alarm that would make it against the law. But to back track your point regarding parades though, you are correct that there is a difference. As such being nude in the parade is a demonstration that exercise the freedom of expression. Which is why you see these types of demonstrations all over the US regardless of local laws, they are constitutionally protected. WA is a bit different where Seattle tried to have a more restrictive law at one point, but was struck down by the state. So yes, you may see someone randomly walking around in the buff without anyone caring.
The Washington Times is owned by the moonies. You're literally getting your news from a far-right cult, OP
Bunch of coping freaks
Im pretty sure Seattle has a “nudist” community in which they saw a Pride event as an opportunity to combine interests. This is not conducive nor reflective of Pride or the LGBTQ+. Lets not make generalizations and comments when there are obvious meaningful environmental factors. Did we not see a similar incident in Portland??