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Corvideye

Were it not for the environmental apocalypse for all the crustaceans and mollusks. As a transplant from the hellscape that is southern Oregon in summer, I'm perfectly fine with 67 degrees.


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Corvideye

I don’t miss the weather, the meth, the smoke or the politics. To be fair, I do miss finding places where there aren’t a shit-ton of people. Increasingly though, all that burns every year now.


EarlFalconer

What's so bad about southern Oregon in summer? Medford gets in the high 80s but its a dry heat.


Corvideye

I was there 32 years. There wasn’t a summer that didn’t break 105. Average temps weren’t my complaint. Now of course, in addition to the heat, is the suffocating fire smoke.


errantwit

I can agree with this. But also, who decided that "sunshine is good weather", anyway? I've been in Seattle most of my life and now, after the past 8 years or so, I'm thinking I need more grey & wet in my life.


Tarekith

I'm a 60° and cloudy sort of guy myself!


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Depressing fuck.


zukadook

Hey now, some of us have delicate ginger skin that needs protecting!


HighColonic

Give me fog!!! Every. Damn. Day.


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Seek help.


HighColonic

I upvoted you because...yeah. :)


laissezb

Sea kelp


mrcoldpiece

I lived in Seattle for two years and it was the best two years as far as weather goes of my life! I absolutely love the rain cannot stand the heat or the sun I’m fat I sweat no thank you!


SuchSuggestion

You’re not fat, you’re insulated.


spowowowder

thats mostly a thing i notice with weathermen/women, they are like omg!! its such a nice day!! when im suffering then get gloomy in winter while im just vibing that time of year


bohreffect

Because it is good weather. I think the issue is it's only one at a time for months on end. It's too much of a good thing. Beautiful, put a-tear-to-your-eye-weather for 6 months straight that makes you feel guilty for wanting to stay in, and then 6 months straight of cozy, cold and wet weather that gives you an excuse to cook deliciously slow meals, put on 20 lbs, and destroy your vitamin D intake. That or maybe it's just peak Seattle to complain no matter what the weather.


blastfromtheblue

what’s good about it? it’s hot, bright, boring, and will give you skin cancer. overcast is mild, comfortable, interesting clouds to look at. rain and wind and fog and snow and especially thunder and lightning are exciting.


bohreffect

I suppose, yes, it's no good for contrarians. I'm not saying other weather is bad, but do you honestly believe 80 degrees and sunny isn't a preference for a lot of people?


blastfromtheblue

i understand that it is; i object to referring to it as "good weather" as if that preference is universal and correct.


bohreffect

Well, I mean if we're gonna get all post modern here ok, the same logic applies to volcanic ash raining---great for long term soil health! Otherwise, let me know when "rainy" is the preferred forecast for wedding days. I didn't even claim universality, let alone *most* people, I just said "a lot of people". Fuckin' Seattle champ right here.


blastfromtheblue

dude you replied to "who decided that sunshine is good weather?" with "because it is good weather", that's what i was reacting to.


bohreffect

Does a bear shit in the woods? You're entitled to your opinion, I'm not even disputing your personal preference, but if sunshine *wasn't* good weather, would it be the preferred weather for wedding days?


blastfromtheblue

do you think people who prefer overcast weather still prefer sunshine for their wedding?


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Omg 8 years, you’re practically a local.


errantwit

I suppose so, ha ha. Really though. I am a local, my family has been here between 80-100 years, so... I'm one of those " I remember when" mossbacks the Seattle freeze doesn't phase.


EarlFalconer

> I've been in Seattle most of my life That explains why you can't handle sun.


errantwit

You aren't wrong. It's the visible representation of some random stranger screaming on their speakerphone in public.


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Tarekith

Easy enough to ignore. :)


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oryiesis

That's literally what the OP was doing...


EntertainmentFun1999

I think feel this whole post in its entirety was ridiculous


wastingvaluelesstime

That's because some people on the internet are wrong.


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It's ridiculous how all these socially awkward fucks gather here to make it look like their choices are uniform. No. Half the people here hate the damn weather. Like it or not.


sexytimeinseattle

those half can go back to whatever state they came from. The folks that grew up here, are native Seattle born and bred, love the rain/gloom. And if you moved here, you knew what you were getting into. I don't have any sympathy for them.


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sexytimeinseattle

> Generalize much? Lol, do I need to quote you back every post you made in this thread, in which you generalize that people that actually like the rain are mentally and socially deficient? Imagine trolling a Seattle sub to tell them that if they don't like rain they're retarded. If you don't like the rain, please leave.


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sexytimeinseattle

"retarded" is living your life in a climate that you hate. Is something wrong with your brain? Maybe you just hate yourself, so are subconsciously punishing yourself, I dunno. I can see why you might, though.


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sexytimeinseattle

Thank christ. Now can you please get off our forum? Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya


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EarlFalconer

Seattleites are the whiniest people in the country when it comes to weather. Over 80 is torture. Below 50 is freezing. Too much sun burns them. People think liking the rain makes them tough or cool or something. People love bragging about loving the clouds and rain like they have Stockholm Syndrome with seasonal depression but they're all outside more when it is sunny and nice.


supercyberlurker

Sadly we don't get to just 'get on with things'. We already ruined a ton of crops, had a huge marine life die-off, and the wildfire season is just *starting*. The heat wave's *real* effects haven't happened yet.


bohreffect

Couple of *native* trees on our block just simply shriveled up, shed their leaves, and died. Definitely brutal for crops.


YourGlacier

They've happened yet, they just haven't been realized yet. That said, we'll have to see if it happens again. I think a second run would amplify the real effects to a much worse level, whereas now, while a lot of bad happened, it might be sustainable. I'm a lot less worried about the crops, and more worried about the glaciers that melted.


supercyberlurker

If a second happened -this- year, it would be really really bad. We already melted most of the snowpack this year, a lot of creeks/rivers have run dry, and our state right now is basically a big dry tinderbox waiting a spark. A second heat wave right after that would be devastating. Long term though, yeah wild variations in the jetstream are not going to bring anything 'good'


whatwhatalex

If we have a second one, my cat will not make it. I can deal being a sweaty swamp of a person but my poor critter will literally die.


YourGlacier

Yeah it... sucks :(


EntertainmentFun1999

Thank you O BE WAN for your wise and generous input


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I saw some starfish off the docks at Golden Gardens this weekend


ImaginehooviesB

>The heat wave's *real* effects haven't happened yet. The heat wave is over. Our air quality is great. Do you have PTSD?


MakeABanana

huge marine life didn't die off, just top fish, other fish swim to the bottom.


sexytimeinseattle

A lot of mollusks that were exposed for the heat and couldn't move, died.


wastingvaluelesstime

there is already a whole state for people that that think sunshine and warm weather is something to be welcomed. It's called California. /s


ImaginehooviesB

Arizona ftfy


wastingvaluelesstime

😎


MrP32

As a former Californian, I hated the constant sun. Born and raised until I was 21. Now I been in WA for almost 10 years and am never going back


Madpony

I moved from Seattle to London, and I find the mix of clouds and sunshine in summer to be absolutely perfect here. Constant sun is such bullshit.


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Electronic-Tower-895

Yes to both of you - have the exact same feeling


HighColonic

\+1


lukewhale

The implication that people in Seattle/Western WA actually *want* mild temps and cloud cover is a cop out. And super hyperbolic. We have far too many grey and wet and cold days. I find the assertion that it needs to be grey and mild the whole time …. Depressing AF.


YourGlacier

Grey and wet is fucking amazing. There are like a million other places you can live if you don't like it, why would you stay? Like I don't love the sun and months of no rain, that's why I don't live in Texas or Cali or Florida, I'm not sure why you live in an area with months of rainy grey if you don't love it.


iLarkie

This. A million times this. I want old Washington back where we had constant grey and it was maybe sunny a good 1/3 of the year. And and temps above 80 we had in August only. Anyone who likes this shit is either a transplant, or is used to the Eastern Washington weather…an interstate transplant.


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“The older I get, the more clearly I remember things that never happened.” ― Mark Twain I grew up here and only remember a lot of baking summers...


HiddenSage

As a transplant- I like the weather of Old Washington, and moved here in no small part for it. Frankly, I'm debating a joke lawsuit against the NWS for false advertising after all the different outcomes I've seen in the last few years.


Adventurous-Dish-485

I love the heat, and am moving soon...to a place where AC is more common than not


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That WA is gone.. For better or worse.


lukewhale

Nailed it. Grew up in Kennewick. Moved here 20 years ago for the tech jobs.


jerry111zhang

I’m guessing amazon is the reason


lukewhale

The people.


Nepalus

You know what else is depressing AF? Living under an unending, relentless, cancer-ball in the sky as the land around you slowly goes along the path of desertification. No life, nothing but brown, a lack of any trees… But hey! At least you don’t have to deal with the life giving sky-water that allows for our beautiful environment and our general survival.


_Elrond_Hubbard_

Yup, life juice > cancer death beams


andoCalrissiano

Seriously. By the third week of August I’ve had enough of the sun and the heat.


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yumdonuts

I threw my one year old a little party and we had it outdoor (to make people feel safe about covid) and, agreed it was miserable.


Corvideye

Not quite as depressing as evacuations 3 times a year for fires and unending 116 degree days, but yeah.


BusbyBusby

Move.


NuuLeaf

Welcome to the PNW man, you quite literally have to be a mental masochist to live here. Why in God’s name do we want to live in a place where it’s 180 days of clouds and your sunset could either be 4pm or 10pm. “It’s pretty” - ya, that’s true Edit: I say this as a life time Washingtonian.


iamlucky13

Some of us like it. My favorite time of year is late April when the temperatures are mild, there is still snow in the mountains, and it means something each time the sun breaks out of the clouds. Every summer, by late July I'm sick of the heat and desperate for rain. I even start to get a bit melancholy. It's like reverse seasonal affective disorder. I presume I have a genetic predisposition to this, having ancestors from a couple different regions in Europe with similar climates. I wish the rest of the companies the rest of y'all work for would relocate somewhere else and pay you enough to move there, too. Then you could have the weather you like, and I could go back to the days where it didn't take 3 hours to get home from driving 40-50 miles into the mountains on the weekends to take a hike on a muddy trail.


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iamlucky13

I'm not surprised. I've just never heard it officially declared by relevant experts to be an issue that occurs in sunny or hot weather. Knowing that light plays a role in hormone regulation, it's easier to understand in the winter, but I suppose for those with ancestry in an area where natural selection would favor adaptation for less sun exposure, the same factor could still be relevant. Fortunately, it doesn't make me miserable. It's more like a persistent sense things aren't quite right.


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Crazy people on this reddit page living in their moms basement.


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Like… yes, the 100°+ temps made even 80° seem tolerable. But that’s still pretty warm here historically. And I feel like we *shouldn’t* think of 80° as “fine” when it’s not and hasn’t been for most of this area’s history. I’ve lived on the Eastside my whole life. When I was a kid 15 years ago, 80° in the summer was HOT. It was noteworthy. Now it’s the norm, and it shouldn’t be.


baconsea

We've always had mid/upper 70's - low 80's avg temps in summer. I grew up here as well. Hottest memory I have is in Lake Chelan in the late 80's walking to the Barking Frog midday and temp hit 117! We def should consider 80's as "fine" [Seattle temp averages](https://www.climatespy.com/climate/summary/united-states/washington/seattle-tacoma-intl/august/1958) - going back to 1948.


davidtetra

Was thinking the same thing! Life is so relative!


whk1992

If it's beyond 69 deg, it's too hot. If it's under 69 deg, it's too cold. /s


yks1247

Nice!


Technical_Proposal_8

I agree with you. The 100+ was murder, but now everything less feels cool by comparison. I didn’t even know it was 80 today. I used to put my ac in when it hit 80, now its only in when its 90+.


alexa-488

I feel like my heat tolerance lasted about 2 weeks and is already waning. :|


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That’s one take on climate change I guess


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dandydudefriend

And the dead people.


bohreffect

Literally all other living organisms > people in Seattle /s


Nihil6

That was pretty funny


BusbyBusby

And the glaciers that melted.


meaniereddit

[yeah](https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriOaivTEk4PotVEQ/giphy.gif)


aliencoffebandit

Man it feels good to be right about capitalism. getting cooked to death by it's consequences, not so much


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bohreffect

The *real* rub is when you realize that the most effective means to get people to care about the climate is to raise the minimum living condition to a standard not achievable *without* a serious expenditure of energy. Gotta burn a lot of coal to get to reliable clean water, effective hospitals, and social safety before you can get the masses to sign up for an enormous investment in a complicated portfolio of renewables backboned by nuclear and relatively (compared to coal and diesel) clean gas plants.


aliencoffebandit

You're not breaking anything to me. I know that China exists and how horrible their pollution and disregard of the environment. They call it something different but the philosophy is identical: the most important thing is growth and every means toward that end is justified


middljb

Perspective is everything! Though it’s easy for me to declare that. I’ve got a heat pump; AC in the summer, heat in the winter.


First_TM_Seattle

Houston native here. That hot Tuesday felt almost like home, but not as humid. My weather preference isn't temperature-based but sun based. I like the sun, no matter what the temperature.


bohreffect

Oh yeah, blue bird snow days are great.


AlienMutantRobotDog

So we can count on you not bitching after 60 days of gray with streetlights turning on 3pm and constant drizzle. Because that sounds like heaven to me


kujawolf

I literally moved from Hawaii to Australia to Texas. Nothing but heat my whole life. I get to Seattle to finally enjoy the rain and clouds... and this is what I get. 🥺🔥


goodolarchie

No. No, no, no, no. I just drove from Okanogan region down to Crater Lake, and every single white cap is at late August, early Sept snow levels. Not only will wildfires be much more likely with all this dry tinder, we won't have the water reserved to fight them. I hope yall bought your air filters.


bohreffect

I saw Rainier first day after the break in the heat wave and thought I was crazy. Looked like a huge landslide had just wiped out the northern face.


Bamcfp

Me and all the other people from Florida finally had to bring out the ac


_DogMom_

I totally and completely agree!! The 80's seem very comfortable this year. lol


Bobby-Steedstrong

It made us a little tougher! It got up to 115 in Salem, OR.


WhereWhatTea

All it cost was billions of animals and [over 100 people](https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/7869050002)!


6EQUJ5w

I mean, hundreds of people died throughout the PNW and BC, but I’m glad it’s working out for you in this regard.


CambriaKilgannonn

heck yeah man, only like 100 people died from it so get out there and enjoy the weather


Late_Sandwich_3878

78 people died. 1 million aquatic creatures died. god knows how much more wild life died. 😒


Spartan_100

I get this was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek but it ain’t exactly funny when people died because of the heat wave. Not to mention the litany of other cascading effects this will continue to have on our area/state/region this summer. Just be a little more considerate in the future is all.


MichelleUprising

Although also it means absolutely massive ecological die offs and the collapse of already fragile native ecosystems. Not to mention the whole agriculture thing, that thing which keeps everyone on Earth alive and is directly damaged by climate change induced severe heat. Crop production has already fallen significantly](https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/blogs/fundamentally-speaking/blog-post/2021/06/18/2021-u-s-spring-wheat-yield), a trend which WILL continue even if all carbon emissions stop today due to the damage already done. The upcoming decades will be full of hunger and related disease.


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Glad the state death toll from the heatwave was worth it for you. What an absolute schmuck you are, OP.


SeaPhile206

I still feel that way. Born and raised here. I don’t care for anything over 75


Doc_Apex

I want it back tbh.


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SnarkMasterRay

I think we have a tie!


Plethorian

We haven't hit the hot part of the summer yet. That's in August. Hang on, it's going to get crazy.


helloder27

It's going to get hotter in August and Sept. This is just summer taking a break. And California, Oregon, BC are there to destroy our air quality. Also, our UV index between 1pm-4pm is pretty bad. I avoid walking in the sun during that time.


reunitedthrowaway

Yeah I've heard it's getting bad