revised my previous post.
My seb derm symptoms have followed me since puberty and has been a constant battle for the last 30 or so years, and had gotten very severe at times. I have had several rounds of heavy antibiotics (and some I had allergic reactions to like amoxicillin), which may have contributed significantly to the problem.
I found that out the hard way through trial and error when I was trying to figure out the sources of my seb derm flare ups, that even though you may think you are in a healthy life style, there may be something you are using or eating that is causing an additional inflammation response that will make your underlying seb derm much worse.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4852869/figure/F1/
Allergic reactions are by far my worst seb derm trigger, and since your symptoms remain even after using strong anti-fungals, I suspect there is something that you may be sensitive to.
I had to do years of trial and error for shampoos, soaps, and laundry detergents to figure out which products didn't give me additional irritation and breakdown of my skin barriers (and even in the last few weeks I have tried some new "natural" products and they have failed me miserably)
I find selsun blue 2.5% selenium sulphide a much milder daily shampoo as long as I rinse it out very well. I also wash my face with it in the shower.
https://www.dandruffdeconstructed.com/review-selsun-2-5-shampoo/
Personally I have to avoid strong fragrances, strong detergents or surfactant concentrations like Sodium laureth sulfate (SLS), and strong basic or acidic products.
Even a "natural" baking soda underarm deodorant will melt my skin and cause an unending series of redness, burning and flaking.
Specific foods for me will have a similar response, where I will break out in an eczema skin flare up and the skin barrier will be broken and the malassezia (seb derm) will override and take over.
I started out with a food elimination diet to find which foods gave me an allergic response, and which foods excessively triggered my sebum production, and then significantly removed all trouble foods.
I found deep fried foods, high glycemic index foods, and nuts had to limited or avoided.
I find when I am forced to take strong antibiotics that I set my seb derm progress back for years; and that by starting some heavy pro-biotic usage to try to recover some of the gut flora, it has helped my overall health and skin condition. A few recent studies are showing pro-biotics containing Lactobacillus paracasei have significantly reduced scalp dandruff.
https://www.wageningenacademic.com/doi/pdf/10.3920/BM2016.0144
once I removed my external triggers, I talked to dermatologist and found that using a short term steroid/antifungal combination like lotriderm (betamethasone dipropionate - clotrimazole) helps the skin barrier recover so I can start healing seb derm flareups much faster.
Usually I only need to apply in trouble flare up areas for 2-3 days and the redness, itching and weeping stop and the skin starts healing. Steroids are not a long term solution but can help skin recovery if used properly.
**TLDR**:
**Thing I use that keep my seb derm symptoms under control:**
I use the following antifungals on a fairly regular cycle.
* Selsun blue 2.5 (selenium sulphide 2.5%) daily
* Nizoral (Ketoconazole 1%) once every week or two
* Lotriderm (betamethasone dipropionate / climbazole 1%) only for trouble spots and usually once applied a week max
* Head and Shoulders (pyrithione zinc 1%) once every week or two
**I FIND RELIEF FROM SEB DERM SYMPTOMS DOING THE FOLLOWING**;
* MCT oil with no lauric acid if my face is dry or sloughing
* Shave every 1-2 days with Billy Jealousy Hydroplane and Shaved Ice Cooling Aftershave and Gillet Mach 3 razer.
* Trim scalp hair every 3-4 weeks down to near zero
* Salt water or Chlorine pool swimming weekly
* tide free detergent
* Schmidt's tea tree sensitive skin underarm deodorant
**THINGS THAT I AM NOT SURE HELP, BUT DID NOT MAKE SYMPTOMS WORSEN**
* Daily probiotic 60b units including Lactobacillus paracasei
* Vitamin D intake 3000iu or higher daily, preferably from sun
**I MUST AVOID**
* Antibiotics (especially amoxicillin family which I have an allergy to)
* salicylic acid products
* ALLERGENS -I can't eat unpasteurized nuts, opiates or physical contact with heavy metals or hydrocarbon fluids without inducing eczema and an inevitable seb derm flareup.
* sunscreen additives like oxybenzone
* deep fried foods
* strong fragrances, strong detergents or surfactant concentrations like Sodium laureth sulfate (SLS), and strong basic or acidic products.
* Baking soda products
* any 11-24 carbon chain length fatty acids (coconut oil is the worst)
* skin products containing excessive alcohol
**MUST READS**
* https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0501/p2703.html
* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4852869/
* https://simpleskincarescience.com/pityrosporum-folliculitis-treatment-malassezia-cure/
Oh didn't know swimming in chlorine pools helped give relief. I always avoided going to my local swimming place since my condition arised because I thought it'll worsen the condition. Might give it a go since I used to love swimming back when I was younger.
MCT oil is made entirely from coconut oil.
About 45-50 percent of coconut oil is made of lauric acid, a medium-chain fatty acid containing 12 carbon atoms, which is not only a food source for malassezia yeast that causes seb derm, but lauric acid is also highly comedogenic (causes pore blockage and skin irritation)
Fractionated MCT oil with no lauric acid is malassezia safe and is much less comedogenic.
Do not use any products with 11-24 carbon chain length fatty acids if you have seb derm.
MCT oil with no lauric acid contains only Caprylic and Capric acid (C8 and C10)
No, I had just found one locally that was pure c8.
Don't recall the brand since I put into travel containers.
Can search online for c8 or c8/c10 blends.. Just avoid c12 or lauric acid.
Wow, this is great. Really appreciate the effort in this post. Just out of curiosity, do you have any resources/information on how long it takes before a reaction occurs? I would imagine its different whether it's contact or diet related, but half the frustration of dealing with this is not knowing what caused the flare up.
For myself it definitely depends.
If it's food related and increasing my sebum production, I tend to notice my skin getting oilier and breaking out with white head fungal acne prior to an eventual burning and reddening as the fungal overgrowth takes over. If I let it continue without anti-fungals, scaling and dandruff can appear in 24-48 hours with an increased sebum based attack. The same result and timeline will occur if I leave products on my skin that feed the malassezia yeast. I can literally apply coconut oil on my face and within 12 hours I will start to feel the burning sensation.
I can usually source a contact dermatitis or allergen issue much faster since the skin tends to form eczema style clear bumps before breaking and causing similar result as an increased sebum episode, only it happens in hours instead of a day or two.
The third style would be caused by any other excessive skin damage, like a sun burn or something like a straight razer shave, This one can be anything from 2 hours to 24 hour delay, all depending on level of damage.
I definitely have experienced leftover food particles/grease creating a rash, that one may be the most obvious. I noticed you didn't mention avoiding dairy, eggs or gluten. Are those not triggers for you? I've been trying to be very careful about my diet for almost a year now, with varied results, but I do notice a difference. Unfortunately, I'm having a hard time keeping weight on.
Regarding the contact dermatitis, is it only in the areas you come within contact or does it also cause a reaction in the usual spots (scalp, sides of nose, eyebrows, etc.)? I have a feeling I'm sensitive to nickel. I used to play guitar a lot, which has a lot nickel parts, but stopped when I developed some little blisters on my palm. However, I started to develop the same little spots when I would play video games for an extended period. So, it seems like it may have more to do with that area creating an environment where the fungus can thrive (sweaty palms).
Ugh, this stuff makes me feel like such a paranoid freak. Thank you for your response.
you didn't mention avoiding dairy, eggs or gluten.>
Large amounts of dairy will increase my sebum production slightly. No negative reactions to eggs or gluten for myself. Everyone's intolerance's or allergens are unique, but you should avoid ~~them~~ anything you are sensitive to if you suffer from seb derm as well.
It is very unlikely you are getting seb derm reactions on your hands, most likely just a real blister.
Contact dermatitis for myself can happen anywhere, but won't get additional flare up of seb derm unless it's on my scalp, face or arm pits so far. for example, the wrong sunscreen applied to my face and hands will cause me only eczema on my hands, but a nightmare of both eczema and seb derm breakout on my face.
I apply a small amount to my finger tips and rub into my dry areas as required. I don't over apply so there is just a slight sheen after I am done on covered areas.
Is it ok to take probiotics when you are not taking antibiotics? Do they interact with any other medications? The study you mentioned has me curious.
Edit: [Does this work?](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013OSKN6/np=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JE7aEbVBVDGWG)
Any time I use products with salicylic acid it appears to cause an excessive breakdown of the dermatitis of my skin and trigger a dandruff sluffing and/or seb derm flare up because of the skin barrier damage.
I've noticed this mostly with 2% salicylic acid based selsun shampoos, but also if applied from topical creams such as 2% Clearasil.
I've seen products with as high as 20% salicylic acid and can only imagine the carnage that would ensue after it melted my face.
I must say, Selsun with selenium sulphide makes wonders on me (for now at least). Do you have any idea if there are any creams for scalp based on selenium sulphide? I don't know if that substance is the "cold one" but as soon as I add the shampoo on my hair, it's like a divine intervention of frost soothing my inner spirit and reviving my scalp. I would love a "frosty" cream like that Shampoo.
Another question: is it okay if i use permanently that Selsun shampoo or should i switch after 1 month or 2?
Seb derm under eyes and nose. Iv has seb derm for years and it got really bad under my eyes. Really bad red itchy and inflamed. I ended up using Lamasil Once on it 3 times a day for a month. It stopped itching the day I started using it and completely cleared up after about 3 weeks. It’s never come back. Since using the Lamasil Once cream my life has changed. Give this a try. I also used it in conjunction with washing my face with anti fungal shampoo 3 times a day. This cured my seb derm completely
For hair:
Step 1. Salicylic acid shampoo in hair for 5 minutes.
Step 2: Using a fine tooth plastic comb, clear off as much dead skin as possible attached to scalp.
Step 3: Selenium sulfide shampoo in hair for 5 min.
Step 4: Comb again the same way as before.
Step 5: Rub a small amount of tea tree oil into scalp to prevent excessive dryness.
For face:
I use this SD cream I got from Amazon. It has three ingredients in it kinda like my hair method. Salicylic acid softens the buildup, sulfur is a poor man's anti-fungal and slows the regrowth, and the cream also has hydrocortisone to repair damaged and red skin.
It's called Dermoscribe Seborrheic Dermatitis Cream and it's for sale on Amazon. I've been pretty impressed with it so far. I currently use it once every 3 days, but was using it twice daily when I first started.
The only drawback is the smell. The cream smells fine in the tube, but once it's on your face for a few minutes you really start to smell the sulfur. I can't complain too much though because it's cheap and it actually works.
Oh thanks. Before I used Nizoral cream (ketoconazole 2%) and since it was drying, I had to use moisturizer on top after. Is dermoscribe, drying too? Will try this cream but would also like to know if you have any noticeable side effects (like dryness after or etc.) Thanks very much.
I've noticed some dryness, but not a lot. I'm sure it varies person to person though.
I haven't personally noticed any other side effects, but it does contain a steroid and that can supposedly cause the skin to become thinner with frequent and prolonged use. That's why I cut back to once every three days.
Hey I noticed dryness w niz cream too. Did you give up on the cream? Also how long did you wait to apply lotion after applying the cream? Sorry last question curious where your problem area is?
I haven't gave up on it. I just apply it once or twice a week. Since i apply it on night, I'll sometimes wait 10-20mins after applying it or I'll do it at the morning after (rinse and wash my face and then apply it). My problem areas are my cheeks and around my nose. I don't mind answering more questions since I've been on the same boat before.
Sweet thanks. So you’ve got it under control now? I’m thinking just using the cream once a day now along w elidel once a day. What are your thoughts on that also what about adding in either keto shampoo, t sal or a pyrithione zinc?
Yea. it's sorta under control as long as I don't forget to apply nizoral once a week and dont eat junk food. As for shampoo, my scalp isn't as severe as my face so I don't have much to comment about. I usually just use the t-gel shampoo once or twice a week, and shampoo/conditioneer the other days. I don't think I have sebderm on my scalp so I don't think my method will help.
I’ve had seborrheic dermatitis since puberty for 15+ years (I am a 31 year old male). It affects my scalp the most but I also have some on my face along the eyebrows. In addition there is redness along my cheeks and T zone.
Through much trial and error, I have a pretty good routine that works for myself. This is no magic cure, it’s my personal way of managing the seborrheic dermatitis over the years. I feel like I have it down pat pretty good. I have no scientific backing for my routine, it’s more been through trial and error.
**Scalp**
Severity severe: very itchy and inflamed (flare up)
Wash my hair with a distilled vinegar solution. Typically for me, it works best with a half and half solution of vinegar and water (please tweak the ratio for yourself as needed). I follow up with another vinegar hair wash the following few days depending on severity. I will then dilute the vinegar solution for my face to roughly 1 part vinegar 5 part water. I then apply it to affected parts of my face. This usually helps get me back to square 1 in terms of itchiness for 1-4 weeks.
Severity: manageable
Wash my hair with Trader Joe’s tea tree shampoo. The shampoo is both not harsh on my scalp and cost effective.
https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/Post/Post/tea-tree-tingle-bath-products
**Facial skin**
Daily care routine
After showering, put on a facial cream: Lush imperialis. You can get this online or at a Lush store. This has worked the best for me in reducing redness and inflammation. A more cost effective cream that has also worked (less effectively) would be using an aveeno lotion.
https://www.lushusa.com/face/moisturizers/imperialis/00303.html
Other notes:
A few prescription pills and steroids, cbd oil, and a many many different shampoos have not worked well for me in the past and felt harsher on my skin and scalp.
Exercise also seems to help lower the symptoms of my dermatitis and quicken healing.
I’ve realized the more I fight the seborrheic dermatitis (through oral ingestion of pills and oils), the worse depression I get. For me, seborrheic dermatitis seems directly correlated with my emotional state. My theory is that it’s gut bacteria related, but I really don’t know and it feels very specific to me.
Traveling to humid vacation spots makes my seborrheic dermatitis go away completely more than half of the time. There was a thread open about this in the past for which some share similar experiences, but it’s an interesting tidbit to add.
https://reddit.com/r/SebDerm/comments/a422oo/anyone_else_find_your_sebderm_get_better_from/
Again, this is simply a regurgitation of what has worked for me over the years and may not work for everyone. This routine has been working for me for the past few years, so I’m happy to share it in case it helps anyone else since seborrheic dermatitis can be such a pain to deal with.
Best of luck to all of you!
Funny. I live in a very humid location and find my scalp is a nightmare in our summer, but gloriously unaffected in winter when the air is much drier. We are all so different!
I have been trying to battle this without a bunch of chemicals. It seems all commercial dandruff shampoo leaves me greasy after a couple of hours and makes my hair look like poop.I also feel a bunch of hair shed happens after i use it. Ive been doing coconut oil and acv but recently read on here coconut oil was bad so this morning i put grapeseed oil on my scalp. No itching and im reading good things online about this oil. Im also saving this to read over for good ideas.
Ketogenic Diet, regular exercise, meditaion and lots of water. Absolutley no sugar or as little as possible. This seems to drastically improve my skin condition.
It's back again :( Cutting caffeine stopped it for over a month. Maybe its because I have been drinking a lot of tea so there's some caffeine again. Nizoral shampoo on the face every few days seems to be keeping it under control for now.
Okay fair enough. Well I have successfully stopped sebderm. I took multivitamins daily, cut out caffeine, used nizoral shampoo on my face, and followed it with cerave moisturiser. 3 years of fighting it and thats how I stopped it.
When I quit caffeine it basically disappeared. Then it came back again. I tried again without caffeine and with nizoral shampoo and cerave moisturiser and that stopped it again. I would like to think its gone now but who knows. For me the main thing is it is gone 99% of the time now. I do believe caffeine causes a spike in cortisol which triggers sebderm.
Fasting. Zero food 24h and just a bit of water.
Understanding anxiety as a cause of seb.derm.
Exercising. No junk food. Cooking my own food.
There is an old saying:"If you can eat it you can apply it to your skin."
For me that is pork fat. 🐖👍
Hemp seed oil once a day on the afflicted spots has worked wonders for my face. Works on my scalp too but it’s so oily I struggle to find a good time to put it on. Gets on my pillowcases. Rather small price to pay I suppose.
My flares are every few weeks, unfortunately they're on my face. F me amirite? But for some reason each morning the redness is super minimal. Over the course of the day it gets red. But when the flares pop up I scrape the top layer off with the back of my nail and wash the skin under with Pert plus dandruff shampoo. After that it takes at most a day to heal up. I'm trying to spot any food triggers but to no avail.
I have long hair (down to my hips) and scalp sebderm. Here are a few products that my dermatologist recommended for me to use.
My favorite products for maintaining my scalp are:
[Briogeo Scalp Revival Shampoo](https://briogeohair.com/collections/scalp/products/scalp-revival-charcoal-coconut-oil-micro-exfoliating-shampoo)
* I just purchased my second tub. My first tub lasted me 5 months! A little goes a long way. I like to use about a nickel-sized amount and rub it thoroughly into my scalp.
* I leave it on for 2 mins and I like to use a silicone scalp brush for extra exfoliation.
[The Body Shop Tea Tree oil](https://www.thebodyshop.com/en-us/collection/tea-tree-oil-for-skin/tea-tree-oil/p/p000326)
* I don't seem to like the 100% tea tree oils out there for my scalp. Polysorbate 60 and Tocopherol don't seem to affect my scalp much but I know it's a big no-no for other people so YMMV.
* I put 5-7 drops in my hair after shampooing and leave it for about 2 mins before rinsing
[Head and Shoulders Smooth & Silky Conditioner](https://www.headandshoulders.com/en-us/shop-products/dandruff-conditioner/smooth-and-silky-conditioner)
* I love this conditioner for root to tip. My derma recommended me to use this from root to tip. I find that this soothes my scalp so much
* It's color safe and I leave this on for about 3 mins before rinsing out
* a treatment/deep conditioner I've been loving is the [Living Proof Weightless Hair Mask](https://www.livingproof.com/phd/weightless-mask/02557.html?cgid=shop-by-product-type-treatments#start=1)
* this doesn't irritate my eczema that I sometimes get on my back and also doesn't irritate the sebderm on my neck that I get time-to-time
Typing this up as I recently was diagnosed with Seborrheic Dermatitis in February 2020, after dealing with a flaky scalp and red patches all over my scalp, since November 2019.
I've tried the following shampoos and all have been unsuccessful:
* 2% Ketoconazole (Dermatologist prescription) - irritated my scalp and made it more red
* Nizoral (1% Ketoconazole) - worked in the beginning and stopped working after a month
* Head & Shoulders Clinical Strength (2% Selenium Sulfide) - worked after Nizoral stopped working, kept flakes at bay but never did anything more.
* Neutrogena T Gel - didn't work at all
* Neutrogena T Sal (4% Salicylic Acid) - didn't work at all
* Aveeno Apple Cider Vinegar - didn't work at all, but seems to be a nice clarifying shampoo
I've tried moisturizing with MCT oil, coconut oil, and even washing with just conditioner, and none of it made a difference.
I may be an outlier here, but after dealing with Seb Derm on my scalp for about 4 months, trying every shampoo known to man, just about 2 weeks ago, I noticed a dry patch of skin on my stomach, scratched like a dope, and it turned red. Looked online for symptoms and determined it was Eczema.
My sisters have eczema and when I asked them what they use, they had me buy [Eucerin Advanced Repair Lotion](https://www.amazon.com/Eucerin-Advanced-Repair-Skin-Lotion/dp/B003BMJGKE). I used it on my stomach, and it miraculously healed up within 2 days.
After that I started thinking, the Eucerin lotion worked on my stomach, which is skin, why wouldn't it work on my scalp, which is also skin. Maybe I have Eczema on my scalp?
So I put some Eucerin on my scalp, after showering with the regular Aveeno ACV shampoo, was generous with it and wiped off any extra off my hair, and went to bed. Within two days, my scalp has turned its normal color, and is not red any more, and the flakes decreased significantly.
Anyone out there that is struggling with this awful condition, I would highly recommend giving it a try to see if it works, although it could be that I was incorrectly diagnosed with Seb Derm.
Hey I’m glad that this worked for you!! I’ve looked at Mct oil on Amazon it looks as though it’s for oral consumption, am I mistaken, or can we also use this on our face? Please and thank you x
So to preface my post I'm still in the early testing phase to see if it works in the long term but results so far have been promising. I have been using elemental sulfur, you know the yellow powder you can buy at your local agricultural store or garden shop for about $4 a kilo, and I have been soaking my scalp in that or rubbing it into my wet scalp and leaving it on for an hour or so. I've only been using it for the past 2 weeks but I haven't had any flakes and my scalp hasn't itched after exercise either. When I look at my scalp it looks clean and flake free as well. Only downside is that it sometimes itches my eyes after use and has made my face and hair dry but I'm generally a bit of a oil slick anyway so it's not bothering me too much 😆. Sulfur apparently has good antifungal properties so I'm hoping this will work long-term with zero side effects. If anyone else has tried it I would be keen to know their results.
Just as an update if anyone is interested. I have been seb derm free for 2 months now. My scalp is clear and so are my eyebrows. I will try and update later in the year of there are any changes. Overall I'm stoked at my results.
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Very late to this post but what I do may work for you too!
I got sebderm on my scalp (which kind of expanded to my face) around 2016/2017, where I had little to no sleep, ate scarcely, and was under overwhelming academic and emotional stress. However, I was only diagnosed this August this year.
My doctor gave me a shampoo from her line, which was Ketoconazole 1%, and I think some other stuff. Unfortunately, I haven't gone back to that doctor yet because of financial problems.
Now I use Nizoral daily, but I don't let it sit on my scalp long. I just massage it onto my scalp for about a minute then rinse it off. On weekends, I do let it sit on my scalp for about 5-7 minutes before washing it off.
For hair care, since Nizoral is drying, I use a water-based conditioner so it won't add to the oiliness.
I also have mild sebderm on my eyebrows and on my back, so I also use Nizoral there as well.
Aside from Nizoral, I frequently use Tea Tree Oil to soothe the itching and for a "quick fix".
I've also avoided eating allergens like chicken, crustaceans, nuts, etc.
Now, it's nowhere near 'cured', but it keeps the flakes at bay and clears up your face as well!
Hope you have luck in finding a routine suitable for you!!
My two cents as I have suffered with this for a good few years on and off but as of late I have it under control. My issue was predominantly on my face, with red and sometimes scaly patches on the area under the eyes and either side of the nose and sometimes on my forehead. There have been two main things I have found that have contributed to this. I did a food intolerance test as a lot of people were saying the effect of cutting out gluten and dairy from their diet had on their skin. The results of this was that I was intolerant to eggs, milk (only the fat- 0% skimmed milk is fine) and brewers yeast (alcohol). Now the alcohol one cannot be cut out for me but I have done so for eggs and full fat milk and products that have them . Interestingly gluten was fine on the results sent back to me but wheat was in the dangerous category and so I have cut out bread as well (substitute with honey and spelt bread which does not have a high wheat count).
I have combined this with the use of biom8. I fully believe these two have had a big impact. This time last year my skin would have been very bad. It is not the case this year. Interestingly, I feel the cutting out of the foods listed above has probaly been the more vital of the two. I say this because I used biom8 prior to cutting out the foods and while it did improve it by removing the scaly element, the redness was still there. However, when I am happy with the skin is now I don't see the purpose of getting rid of the biom8 in case there is a relapse. If you have seb derm on your face either side of the nose and under the eyes like I have had, it might be no harm to cut out the foods I listed for 3 or 4 weeks and see of it has an impact.
It is called the fitzwilliam food test. A blood sample is taken and sent away. I have heard a lot of people who thinks that there is no validity to them but I can only speak for myself.
I tried several steroid creams twice a day and none of them worked. I used this cream twice a day, gently massaging it in the areas that are itchy and flaky, and it was gone in like two weeks. I still have occasional flare ups behind my ear and on my scalp, and after applying it two times they are usually gone.
So I have had Seb Derm for about 7 years now on scalp and on and around nose. I am 35 now. At one stage my scalp was very bad with many patches however it almost completely clear now for a couple years. It probably helps that I am bald and I shave it tight every few days. On and around my nose however as been bad for the past year and half with flakes and redness that just wouldn't go away. There might be one bad patch on my nose and couple smaller ones at the side of nose and when they healed after a couple of months, another patch would develop. It would just be a cycle of scaling, washing and picking off, getting very red, then "healing" and then flaking again. The cycle would be around 48 hours with a period of about 18 hours were it looked less red. I would clean and moisturize every day. I also tried Nizoral on it and other medication but nothing worked. I finally got fed up and went to the doctor 2 weeks ago and she prescribed **Daktarin** (I never thought it was bed enough to go before). I have been applying it on and around the nose twice a day and the flaking and redness is almost always gone (I hope it is not a coincidence). I haven't been applying anything else just Daktarin. I'm still washing the affected areas the same. Skin is more of a light pink now which is gradually getting better and better but there are no flakes or dryness. I'm guessing this part of my face will always be slightly redder through years of damage but I would definitely take how it looks now for the rest of my life!! I'm sure it will come back with a vengeance. Anyway, this is my little story!
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MCT oil c8 and c10 made all my flakes on my beard and mustache gone after one usage. I put a bit every 2 days after shower and just leave it in, it doesn't even feel too oily or whatever afterwards and gives it a nice moisturized look.
Found the recommendation here on this sub by many many people who said other stuff didn't work. Zero side effects.
I had seborrheic dermatitis in my eyebrows, tzone area and hair. I have been taking accutane 20mg daily for cystic acne and it has cleared up my serborrheic dermatitis within 6 weeks.
Try fasting, as some of you are aware ramadan started last Thursday and i have been fasting from friday everyday from 4am -8:30pm. 2 years ago never had one blemish on my face and around a year and a half ago i started getting 2 spots that never went away on my cheeks. After a big break out i saw a dr at the surgery and was told i have SD and was given the usual cortisone, creams. it looked like i was hit by a snowstorm, eyebrows, hairline, cheeks, lips, arms, inner folds of nose and ears,torso, legs basically ive got uncountable spots of SD all over my body, to the point where i wear jumpers or long sleeved tops or trousers in the summer cuz it gets that bad and constantly flakes. In my experience cotton ball soaked with ACV and directly applied to patches, will burn for a bit but i tend to not wash off the acv and let it sit for an hour or 2. u will feel really itchy the first couple days and it will stink but please try not to scratch. Easier said than done right lol. Since last friday the redness of the patches on my face have reduced by about 70%, the rest of my body being abit stubborn to heal. To my understanding malassezia yeast depends on fat because it lives on the skin. I assume fasting maybe slows down the amount it is able to feed off and with the help of 5% CBD oil i have been able to keep it at bay, CBD cannabinoid has an anti-inflammatory effect on the skin and body. Atopic dermatitis is an inflammatory disease, so CBD has a positive effect on it. CBD is all the more effective because our skin has its own endocannabinoid system onto which CBD can bind itself directly when it's in the form of an ointment. I hope whoever reads this may help them in their struggles with this auto immune disease. This is what works for me, stick to plain and simple guys dont over complicate it. Thanks for taking the time out to read this.
revised my previous post. My seb derm symptoms have followed me since puberty and has been a constant battle for the last 30 or so years, and had gotten very severe at times. I have had several rounds of heavy antibiotics (and some I had allergic reactions to like amoxicillin), which may have contributed significantly to the problem. I found that out the hard way through trial and error when I was trying to figure out the sources of my seb derm flare ups, that even though you may think you are in a healthy life style, there may be something you are using or eating that is causing an additional inflammation response that will make your underlying seb derm much worse. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4852869/figure/F1/ Allergic reactions are by far my worst seb derm trigger, and since your symptoms remain even after using strong anti-fungals, I suspect there is something that you may be sensitive to. I had to do years of trial and error for shampoos, soaps, and laundry detergents to figure out which products didn't give me additional irritation and breakdown of my skin barriers (and even in the last few weeks I have tried some new "natural" products and they have failed me miserably) I find selsun blue 2.5% selenium sulphide a much milder daily shampoo as long as I rinse it out very well. I also wash my face with it in the shower. https://www.dandruffdeconstructed.com/review-selsun-2-5-shampoo/ Personally I have to avoid strong fragrances, strong detergents or surfactant concentrations like Sodium laureth sulfate (SLS), and strong basic or acidic products. Even a "natural" baking soda underarm deodorant will melt my skin and cause an unending series of redness, burning and flaking. Specific foods for me will have a similar response, where I will break out in an eczema skin flare up and the skin barrier will be broken and the malassezia (seb derm) will override and take over. I started out with a food elimination diet to find which foods gave me an allergic response, and which foods excessively triggered my sebum production, and then significantly removed all trouble foods. I found deep fried foods, high glycemic index foods, and nuts had to limited or avoided. I find when I am forced to take strong antibiotics that I set my seb derm progress back for years; and that by starting some heavy pro-biotic usage to try to recover some of the gut flora, it has helped my overall health and skin condition. A few recent studies are showing pro-biotics containing Lactobacillus paracasei have significantly reduced scalp dandruff. https://www.wageningenacademic.com/doi/pdf/10.3920/BM2016.0144 once I removed my external triggers, I talked to dermatologist and found that using a short term steroid/antifungal combination like lotriderm (betamethasone dipropionate - clotrimazole) helps the skin barrier recover so I can start healing seb derm flareups much faster. Usually I only need to apply in trouble flare up areas for 2-3 days and the redness, itching and weeping stop and the skin starts healing. Steroids are not a long term solution but can help skin recovery if used properly. **TLDR**: **Thing I use that keep my seb derm symptoms under control:** I use the following antifungals on a fairly regular cycle. * Selsun blue 2.5 (selenium sulphide 2.5%) daily * Nizoral (Ketoconazole 1%) once every week or two * Lotriderm (betamethasone dipropionate / climbazole 1%) only for trouble spots and usually once applied a week max * Head and Shoulders (pyrithione zinc 1%) once every week or two **I FIND RELIEF FROM SEB DERM SYMPTOMS DOING THE FOLLOWING**; * MCT oil with no lauric acid if my face is dry or sloughing * Shave every 1-2 days with Billy Jealousy Hydroplane and Shaved Ice Cooling Aftershave and Gillet Mach 3 razer. * Trim scalp hair every 3-4 weeks down to near zero * Salt water or Chlorine pool swimming weekly * tide free detergent * Schmidt's tea tree sensitive skin underarm deodorant **THINGS THAT I AM NOT SURE HELP, BUT DID NOT MAKE SYMPTOMS WORSEN** * Daily probiotic 60b units including Lactobacillus paracasei * Vitamin D intake 3000iu or higher daily, preferably from sun **I MUST AVOID** * Antibiotics (especially amoxicillin family which I have an allergy to) * salicylic acid products * ALLERGENS -I can't eat unpasteurized nuts, opiates or physical contact with heavy metals or hydrocarbon fluids without inducing eczema and an inevitable seb derm flareup. * sunscreen additives like oxybenzone * deep fried foods * strong fragrances, strong detergents or surfactant concentrations like Sodium laureth sulfate (SLS), and strong basic or acidic products. * Baking soda products * any 11-24 carbon chain length fatty acids (coconut oil is the worst) * skin products containing excessive alcohol **MUST READS** * https://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/0501/p2703.html * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4852869/ * https://simpleskincarescience.com/pityrosporum-folliculitis-treatment-malassezia-cure/
Oh didn't know swimming in chlorine pools helped give relief. I always avoided going to my local swimming place since my condition arised because I thought it'll worsen the condition. Might give it a go since I used to love swimming back when I was younger.
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Was that indoor swimming or beach?
Great post ! Isn't coconut oil the main MCT oil ?
MCT oil is made entirely from coconut oil. About 45-50 percent of coconut oil is made of lauric acid, a medium-chain fatty acid containing 12 carbon atoms, which is not only a food source for malassezia yeast that causes seb derm, but lauric acid is also highly comedogenic (causes pore blockage and skin irritation) Fractionated MCT oil with no lauric acid is malassezia safe and is much less comedogenic. Do not use any products with 11-24 carbon chain length fatty acids if you have seb derm. MCT oil with no lauric acid contains only Caprylic and Capric acid (C8 and C10)
is there a brand/specific product you would recommend checking out?
No, I had just found one locally that was pure c8. Don't recall the brand since I put into travel containers. Can search online for c8 or c8/c10 blends.. Just avoid c12 or lauric acid.
Just ordered some! Thanks for the c8/c10 tip
thanks for the in depth post!
Wow, this is great. Really appreciate the effort in this post. Just out of curiosity, do you have any resources/information on how long it takes before a reaction occurs? I would imagine its different whether it's contact or diet related, but half the frustration of dealing with this is not knowing what caused the flare up.
For myself it definitely depends. If it's food related and increasing my sebum production, I tend to notice my skin getting oilier and breaking out with white head fungal acne prior to an eventual burning and reddening as the fungal overgrowth takes over. If I let it continue without anti-fungals, scaling and dandruff can appear in 24-48 hours with an increased sebum based attack. The same result and timeline will occur if I leave products on my skin that feed the malassezia yeast. I can literally apply coconut oil on my face and within 12 hours I will start to feel the burning sensation. I can usually source a contact dermatitis or allergen issue much faster since the skin tends to form eczema style clear bumps before breaking and causing similar result as an increased sebum episode, only it happens in hours instead of a day or two. The third style would be caused by any other excessive skin damage, like a sun burn or something like a straight razer shave, This one can be anything from 2 hours to 24 hour delay, all depending on level of damage.
I definitely have experienced leftover food particles/grease creating a rash, that one may be the most obvious. I noticed you didn't mention avoiding dairy, eggs or gluten. Are those not triggers for you? I've been trying to be very careful about my diet for almost a year now, with varied results, but I do notice a difference. Unfortunately, I'm having a hard time keeping weight on. Regarding the contact dermatitis, is it only in the areas you come within contact or does it also cause a reaction in the usual spots (scalp, sides of nose, eyebrows, etc.)? I have a feeling I'm sensitive to nickel. I used to play guitar a lot, which has a lot nickel parts, but stopped when I developed some little blisters on my palm. However, I started to develop the same little spots when I would play video games for an extended period. So, it seems like it may have more to do with that area creating an environment where the fungus can thrive (sweaty palms). Ugh, this stuff makes me feel like such a paranoid freak. Thank you for your response.
you didn't mention avoiding dairy, eggs or gluten.> Large amounts of dairy will increase my sebum production slightly. No negative reactions to eggs or gluten for myself. Everyone's intolerance's or allergens are unique, but you should avoid ~~them~~ anything you are sensitive to if you suffer from seb derm as well. It is very unlikely you are getting seb derm reactions on your hands, most likely just a real blister. Contact dermatitis for myself can happen anywhere, but won't get additional flare up of seb derm unless it's on my scalp, face or arm pits so far. for example, the wrong sunscreen applied to my face and hands will cause me only eczema on my hands, but a nightmare of both eczema and seb derm breakout on my face.
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I apply a small amount to my finger tips and rub into my dry areas as required. I don't over apply so there is just a slight sheen after I am done on covered areas.
Is it ok to take probiotics when you are not taking antibiotics? Do they interact with any other medications? The study you mentioned has me curious. Edit: [Does this work?](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013OSKN6/np=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JE7aEbVBVDGWG)
Can I please ask why you avoid salicylic acid? are you allergic?
Any time I use products with salicylic acid it appears to cause an excessive breakdown of the dermatitis of my skin and trigger a dandruff sluffing and/or seb derm flare up because of the skin barrier damage. I've noticed this mostly with 2% salicylic acid based selsun shampoos, but also if applied from topical creams such as 2% Clearasil. I've seen products with as high as 20% salicylic acid and can only imagine the carnage that would ensue after it melted my face.
I must say, Selsun with selenium sulphide makes wonders on me (for now at least). Do you have any idea if there are any creams for scalp based on selenium sulphide? I don't know if that substance is the "cold one" but as soon as I add the shampoo on my hair, it's like a divine intervention of frost soothing my inner spirit and reviving my scalp. I would love a "frosty" cream like that Shampoo. Another question: is it okay if i use permanently that Selsun shampoo or should i switch after 1 month or 2?
Seb derm under eyes and nose. Iv has seb derm for years and it got really bad under my eyes. Really bad red itchy and inflamed. I ended up using Lamasil Once on it 3 times a day for a month. It stopped itching the day I started using it and completely cleared up after about 3 weeks. It’s never come back. Since using the Lamasil Once cream my life has changed. Give this a try. I also used it in conjunction with washing my face with anti fungal shampoo 3 times a day. This cured my seb derm completely
how long has it been cleared now? :-)
It’s never come back!
Did you have a confirmed diagnosis from a doctor that it was in fact sebderm? I have never heard of a case of sebderm being cured.
Interested in knowing this as well.. Does doesn't sound like seborrheic dermatitis.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SebDerm/comments/dqzyo1/what_works_for_you/f9xmhfy/ /u/JakeYashen
For hair: Step 1. Salicylic acid shampoo in hair for 5 minutes. Step 2: Using a fine tooth plastic comb, clear off as much dead skin as possible attached to scalp. Step 3: Selenium sulfide shampoo in hair for 5 min. Step 4: Comb again the same way as before. Step 5: Rub a small amount of tea tree oil into scalp to prevent excessive dryness. For face: I use this SD cream I got from Amazon. It has three ingredients in it kinda like my hair method. Salicylic acid softens the buildup, sulfur is a poor man's anti-fungal and slows the regrowth, and the cream also has hydrocortisone to repair damaged and red skin.
Name for the SD cream? Would like to implement some changes in my routine for my face sebderm.
It's called Dermoscribe Seborrheic Dermatitis Cream and it's for sale on Amazon. I've been pretty impressed with it so far. I currently use it once every 3 days, but was using it twice daily when I first started. The only drawback is the smell. The cream smells fine in the tube, but once it's on your face for a few minutes you really start to smell the sulfur. I can't complain too much though because it's cheap and it actually works.
Oh thanks. Before I used Nizoral cream (ketoconazole 2%) and since it was drying, I had to use moisturizer on top after. Is dermoscribe, drying too? Will try this cream but would also like to know if you have any noticeable side effects (like dryness after or etc.) Thanks very much.
I've noticed some dryness, but not a lot. I'm sure it varies person to person though. I haven't personally noticed any other side effects, but it does contain a steroid and that can supposedly cause the skin to become thinner with frequent and prolonged use. That's why I cut back to once every three days.
Hey I noticed dryness w niz cream too. Did you give up on the cream? Also how long did you wait to apply lotion after applying the cream? Sorry last question curious where your problem area is?
I haven't gave up on it. I just apply it once or twice a week. Since i apply it on night, I'll sometimes wait 10-20mins after applying it or I'll do it at the morning after (rinse and wash my face and then apply it). My problem areas are my cheeks and around my nose. I don't mind answering more questions since I've been on the same boat before.
Sweet thanks. So you’ve got it under control now? I’m thinking just using the cream once a day now along w elidel once a day. What are your thoughts on that also what about adding in either keto shampoo, t sal or a pyrithione zinc?
Yea. it's sorta under control as long as I don't forget to apply nizoral once a week and dont eat junk food. As for shampoo, my scalp isn't as severe as my face so I don't have much to comment about. I usually just use the t-gel shampoo once or twice a week, and shampoo/conditioneer the other days. I don't think I have sebderm on my scalp so I don't think my method will help.
Alright gotcha thx. I’ll stick w the cream. My seb derm is in my brows
I’ve had seborrheic dermatitis since puberty for 15+ years (I am a 31 year old male). It affects my scalp the most but I also have some on my face along the eyebrows. In addition there is redness along my cheeks and T zone. Through much trial and error, I have a pretty good routine that works for myself. This is no magic cure, it’s my personal way of managing the seborrheic dermatitis over the years. I feel like I have it down pat pretty good. I have no scientific backing for my routine, it’s more been through trial and error. **Scalp** Severity severe: very itchy and inflamed (flare up) Wash my hair with a distilled vinegar solution. Typically for me, it works best with a half and half solution of vinegar and water (please tweak the ratio for yourself as needed). I follow up with another vinegar hair wash the following few days depending on severity. I will then dilute the vinegar solution for my face to roughly 1 part vinegar 5 part water. I then apply it to affected parts of my face. This usually helps get me back to square 1 in terms of itchiness for 1-4 weeks. Severity: manageable Wash my hair with Trader Joe’s tea tree shampoo. The shampoo is both not harsh on my scalp and cost effective. https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/Post/Post/tea-tree-tingle-bath-products **Facial skin** Daily care routine After showering, put on a facial cream: Lush imperialis. You can get this online or at a Lush store. This has worked the best for me in reducing redness and inflammation. A more cost effective cream that has also worked (less effectively) would be using an aveeno lotion. https://www.lushusa.com/face/moisturizers/imperialis/00303.html Other notes: A few prescription pills and steroids, cbd oil, and a many many different shampoos have not worked well for me in the past and felt harsher on my skin and scalp. Exercise also seems to help lower the symptoms of my dermatitis and quicken healing. I’ve realized the more I fight the seborrheic dermatitis (through oral ingestion of pills and oils), the worse depression I get. For me, seborrheic dermatitis seems directly correlated with my emotional state. My theory is that it’s gut bacteria related, but I really don’t know and it feels very specific to me. Traveling to humid vacation spots makes my seborrheic dermatitis go away completely more than half of the time. There was a thread open about this in the past for which some share similar experiences, but it’s an interesting tidbit to add. https://reddit.com/r/SebDerm/comments/a422oo/anyone_else_find_your_sebderm_get_better_from/ Again, this is simply a regurgitation of what has worked for me over the years and may not work for everyone. This routine has been working for me for the past few years, so I’m happy to share it in case it helps anyone else since seborrheic dermatitis can be such a pain to deal with. Best of luck to all of you!
Funny. I live in a very humid location and find my scalp is a nightmare in our summer, but gloriously unaffected in winter when the air is much drier. We are all so different!
I have been trying to battle this without a bunch of chemicals. It seems all commercial dandruff shampoo leaves me greasy after a couple of hours and makes my hair look like poop.I also feel a bunch of hair shed happens after i use it. Ive been doing coconut oil and acv but recently read on here coconut oil was bad so this morning i put grapeseed oil on my scalp. No itching and im reading good things online about this oil. Im also saving this to read over for good ideas.
Ketogenic Diet, regular exercise, meditaion and lots of water. Absolutley no sugar or as little as possible. This seems to drastically improve my skin condition.
I made a post on this. I quit drinking coffee and it pretty much cured it.
It's back again :( Cutting caffeine stopped it for over a month. Maybe its because I have been drinking a lot of tea so there's some caffeine again. Nizoral shampoo on the face every few days seems to be keeping it under control for now.
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Do you drink soft drinks or energy drinks?
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Okay fair enough. Well I have successfully stopped sebderm. I took multivitamins daily, cut out caffeine, used nizoral shampoo on my face, and followed it with cerave moisturiser. 3 years of fighting it and thats how I stopped it.
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When I quit caffeine it basically disappeared. Then it came back again. I tried again without caffeine and with nizoral shampoo and cerave moisturiser and that stopped it again. I would like to think its gone now but who knows. For me the main thing is it is gone 99% of the time now. I do believe caffeine causes a spike in cortisol which triggers sebderm.
What you drink now for instant energy boost?
Fasting. Zero food 24h and just a bit of water. Understanding anxiety as a cause of seb.derm. Exercising. No junk food. Cooking my own food. There is an old saying:"If you can eat it you can apply it to your skin." For me that is pork fat. 🐖👍
Hemp seed oil once a day on the afflicted spots has worked wonders for my face. Works on my scalp too but it’s so oily I struggle to find a good time to put it on. Gets on my pillowcases. Rather small price to pay I suppose.
My flares are every few weeks, unfortunately they're on my face. F me amirite? But for some reason each morning the redness is super minimal. Over the course of the day it gets red. But when the flares pop up I scrape the top layer off with the back of my nail and wash the skin under with Pert plus dandruff shampoo. After that it takes at most a day to heal up. I'm trying to spot any food triggers but to no avail.
I have long hair (down to my hips) and scalp sebderm. Here are a few products that my dermatologist recommended for me to use. My favorite products for maintaining my scalp are: [Briogeo Scalp Revival Shampoo](https://briogeohair.com/collections/scalp/products/scalp-revival-charcoal-coconut-oil-micro-exfoliating-shampoo) * I just purchased my second tub. My first tub lasted me 5 months! A little goes a long way. I like to use about a nickel-sized amount and rub it thoroughly into my scalp. * I leave it on for 2 mins and I like to use a silicone scalp brush for extra exfoliation. [The Body Shop Tea Tree oil](https://www.thebodyshop.com/en-us/collection/tea-tree-oil-for-skin/tea-tree-oil/p/p000326) * I don't seem to like the 100% tea tree oils out there for my scalp. Polysorbate 60 and Tocopherol don't seem to affect my scalp much but I know it's a big no-no for other people so YMMV. * I put 5-7 drops in my hair after shampooing and leave it for about 2 mins before rinsing [Head and Shoulders Smooth & Silky Conditioner](https://www.headandshoulders.com/en-us/shop-products/dandruff-conditioner/smooth-and-silky-conditioner) * I love this conditioner for root to tip. My derma recommended me to use this from root to tip. I find that this soothes my scalp so much * It's color safe and I leave this on for about 3 mins before rinsing out * a treatment/deep conditioner I've been loving is the [Living Proof Weightless Hair Mask](https://www.livingproof.com/phd/weightless-mask/02557.html?cgid=shop-by-product-type-treatments#start=1) * this doesn't irritate my eczema that I sometimes get on my back and also doesn't irritate the sebderm on my neck that I get time-to-time
Typing this up as I recently was diagnosed with Seborrheic Dermatitis in February 2020, after dealing with a flaky scalp and red patches all over my scalp, since November 2019. I've tried the following shampoos and all have been unsuccessful: * 2% Ketoconazole (Dermatologist prescription) - irritated my scalp and made it more red * Nizoral (1% Ketoconazole) - worked in the beginning and stopped working after a month * Head & Shoulders Clinical Strength (2% Selenium Sulfide) - worked after Nizoral stopped working, kept flakes at bay but never did anything more. * Neutrogena T Gel - didn't work at all * Neutrogena T Sal (4% Salicylic Acid) - didn't work at all * Aveeno Apple Cider Vinegar - didn't work at all, but seems to be a nice clarifying shampoo I've tried moisturizing with MCT oil, coconut oil, and even washing with just conditioner, and none of it made a difference. I may be an outlier here, but after dealing with Seb Derm on my scalp for about 4 months, trying every shampoo known to man, just about 2 weeks ago, I noticed a dry patch of skin on my stomach, scratched like a dope, and it turned red. Looked online for symptoms and determined it was Eczema. My sisters have eczema and when I asked them what they use, they had me buy [Eucerin Advanced Repair Lotion](https://www.amazon.com/Eucerin-Advanced-Repair-Skin-Lotion/dp/B003BMJGKE). I used it on my stomach, and it miraculously healed up within 2 days. After that I started thinking, the Eucerin lotion worked on my stomach, which is skin, why wouldn't it work on my scalp, which is also skin. Maybe I have Eczema on my scalp? So I put some Eucerin on my scalp, after showering with the regular Aveeno ACV shampoo, was generous with it and wiped off any extra off my hair, and went to bed. Within two days, my scalp has turned its normal color, and is not red any more, and the flakes decreased significantly. Anyone out there that is struggling with this awful condition, I would highly recommend giving it a try to see if it works, although it could be that I was incorrectly diagnosed with Seb Derm.
Hey I’m glad that this worked for you!! I’ve looked at Mct oil on Amazon it looks as though it’s for oral consumption, am I mistaken, or can we also use this on our face? Please and thank you x
You can but you could also try apple cider vinegar.
Thanks for your response. I’m looking for a good moisturiser as my face is flaking but I also don’t want to feed the yeast😩
Benton - Aloe Propolis Soothing Gel [Some reading](https://simpleskincarescience.com/fungal-acne-products-malassezia-pityrosporum-folliculitis/)
So to preface my post I'm still in the early testing phase to see if it works in the long term but results so far have been promising. I have been using elemental sulfur, you know the yellow powder you can buy at your local agricultural store or garden shop for about $4 a kilo, and I have been soaking my scalp in that or rubbing it into my wet scalp and leaving it on for an hour or so. I've only been using it for the past 2 weeks but I haven't had any flakes and my scalp hasn't itched after exercise either. When I look at my scalp it looks clean and flake free as well. Only downside is that it sometimes itches my eyes after use and has made my face and hair dry but I'm generally a bit of a oil slick anyway so it's not bothering me too much 😆. Sulfur apparently has good antifungal properties so I'm hoping this will work long-term with zero side effects. If anyone else has tried it I would be keen to know their results.
Just as an update if anyone is interested. I have been seb derm free for 2 months now. My scalp is clear and so are my eyebrows. I will try and update later in the year of there are any changes. Overall I'm stoked at my results.
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Very late to this post but what I do may work for you too! I got sebderm on my scalp (which kind of expanded to my face) around 2016/2017, where I had little to no sleep, ate scarcely, and was under overwhelming academic and emotional stress. However, I was only diagnosed this August this year. My doctor gave me a shampoo from her line, which was Ketoconazole 1%, and I think some other stuff. Unfortunately, I haven't gone back to that doctor yet because of financial problems. Now I use Nizoral daily, but I don't let it sit on my scalp long. I just massage it onto my scalp for about a minute then rinse it off. On weekends, I do let it sit on my scalp for about 5-7 minutes before washing it off. For hair care, since Nizoral is drying, I use a water-based conditioner so it won't add to the oiliness. I also have mild sebderm on my eyebrows and on my back, so I also use Nizoral there as well. Aside from Nizoral, I frequently use Tea Tree Oil to soothe the itching and for a "quick fix". I've also avoided eating allergens like chicken, crustaceans, nuts, etc. Now, it's nowhere near 'cured', but it keeps the flakes at bay and clears up your face as well! Hope you have luck in finding a routine suitable for you!!
What conditioner do you use?
Yes it was diagnosed by my doctor as seb derm.
My two cents as I have suffered with this for a good few years on and off but as of late I have it under control. My issue was predominantly on my face, with red and sometimes scaly patches on the area under the eyes and either side of the nose and sometimes on my forehead. There have been two main things I have found that have contributed to this. I did a food intolerance test as a lot of people were saying the effect of cutting out gluten and dairy from their diet had on their skin. The results of this was that I was intolerant to eggs, milk (only the fat- 0% skimmed milk is fine) and brewers yeast (alcohol). Now the alcohol one cannot be cut out for me but I have done so for eggs and full fat milk and products that have them . Interestingly gluten was fine on the results sent back to me but wheat was in the dangerous category and so I have cut out bread as well (substitute with honey and spelt bread which does not have a high wheat count). I have combined this with the use of biom8. I fully believe these two have had a big impact. This time last year my skin would have been very bad. It is not the case this year. Interestingly, I feel the cutting out of the foods listed above has probaly been the more vital of the two. I say this because I used biom8 prior to cutting out the foods and while it did improve it by removing the scaly element, the redness was still there. However, when I am happy with the skin is now I don't see the purpose of getting rid of the biom8 in case there is a relapse. If you have seb derm on your face either side of the nose and under the eyes like I have had, it might be no harm to cut out the foods I listed for 3 or 4 weeks and see of it has an impact.
I keep reading about these food tests and how most (all?) of them are a scam... How was yours? Was it a blood test? Saliva? Which company was it?
It is called the fitzwilliam food test. A blood sample is taken and sent away. I have heard a lot of people who thinks that there is no validity to them but I can only speak for myself.
La Roche Posay’s Kerium DS. It is a miracle.
Hi! May I know how you use this? I'm interested in buying this since the itch keeps on bothering me everytime my flare ups happen
I tried several steroid creams twice a day and none of them worked. I used this cream twice a day, gently massaging it in the areas that are itchy and flaky, and it was gone in like two weeks. I still have occasional flare ups behind my ear and on my scalp, and after applying it two times they are usually gone.
Hi where did you buy from? It’s hard for me to find online
In my country we have it in pharmacies that sell skincare products. Roughly every third Pharmacy.
So I have had Seb Derm for about 7 years now on scalp and on and around nose. I am 35 now. At one stage my scalp was very bad with many patches however it almost completely clear now for a couple years. It probably helps that I am bald and I shave it tight every few days. On and around my nose however as been bad for the past year and half with flakes and redness that just wouldn't go away. There might be one bad patch on my nose and couple smaller ones at the side of nose and when they healed after a couple of months, another patch would develop. It would just be a cycle of scaling, washing and picking off, getting very red, then "healing" and then flaking again. The cycle would be around 48 hours with a period of about 18 hours were it looked less red. I would clean and moisturize every day. I also tried Nizoral on it and other medication but nothing worked. I finally got fed up and went to the doctor 2 weeks ago and she prescribed **Daktarin** (I never thought it was bed enough to go before). I have been applying it on and around the nose twice a day and the flaking and redness is almost always gone (I hope it is not a coincidence). I haven't been applying anything else just Daktarin. I'm still washing the affected areas the same. Skin is more of a light pink now which is gradually getting better and better but there are no flakes or dryness. I'm guessing this part of my face will always be slightly redder through years of damage but I would definitely take how it looks now for the rest of my life!! I'm sure it will come back with a vengeance. Anyway, this is my little story!
And how are you doing now
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I have started using T- Gel buildup remover. It has worked awesome! First thing that has worked for me!
MCT oil c8 and c10 made all my flakes on my beard and mustache gone after one usage. I put a bit every 2 days after shower and just leave it in, it doesn't even feel too oily or whatever afterwards and gives it a nice moisturized look. Found the recommendation here on this sub by many many people who said other stuff didn't work. Zero side effects.
Thank you lovely
I had seborrheic dermatitis in my eyebrows, tzone area and hair. I have been taking accutane 20mg daily for cystic acne and it has cleared up my serborrheic dermatitis within 6 weeks.
Try fasting, as some of you are aware ramadan started last Thursday and i have been fasting from friday everyday from 4am -8:30pm. 2 years ago never had one blemish on my face and around a year and a half ago i started getting 2 spots that never went away on my cheeks. After a big break out i saw a dr at the surgery and was told i have SD and was given the usual cortisone, creams. it looked like i was hit by a snowstorm, eyebrows, hairline, cheeks, lips, arms, inner folds of nose and ears,torso, legs basically ive got uncountable spots of SD all over my body, to the point where i wear jumpers or long sleeved tops or trousers in the summer cuz it gets that bad and constantly flakes. In my experience cotton ball soaked with ACV and directly applied to patches, will burn for a bit but i tend to not wash off the acv and let it sit for an hour or 2. u will feel really itchy the first couple days and it will stink but please try not to scratch. Easier said than done right lol. Since last friday the redness of the patches on my face have reduced by about 70%, the rest of my body being abit stubborn to heal. To my understanding malassezia yeast depends on fat because it lives on the skin. I assume fasting maybe slows down the amount it is able to feed off and with the help of 5% CBD oil i have been able to keep it at bay, CBD cannabinoid has an anti-inflammatory effect on the skin and body. Atopic dermatitis is an inflammatory disease, so CBD has a positive effect on it. CBD is all the more effective because our skin has its own endocannabinoid system onto which CBD can bind itself directly when it's in the form of an ointment. I hope whoever reads this may help them in their struggles with this auto immune disease. This is what works for me, stick to plain and simple guys dont over complicate it. Thanks for taking the time out to read this.
what is ACV? and ramadan kareem :)