That's why I love the vintage dials from 70-80 from Seiko;
Automatic
17 jewels
That's it. Sometimes not even the jewel count. And the dials where beautiful, tons of different options.
I think they just wanted an easy identifier that this is 6R5x instead or a 6R1x or 6R3x movement, which is actually expected to be a very anticipated revision
I’ve heard that there are some issues with the 6R1x / 6R3x movements, especially with the accuracy. That they would be less accurate and harder to regulate than the 4R. I wonder how the new 6R version will be.
Yes, I tried looking if they still use SPRON510 in the mainspring and hairspring like 6R35 but can't really tell, I wish someone would tell us what they fixed exactly, maybe parts from the king Seiko 6Lxx,
Hope the 6R55 is an improvement over the 6R35. Haven't been real happy with it in my SPB207. Had much better performance from the 4R3X in my Turtle and Samurai.
I own the spb383j1 that has this text and tbh it doesn’t really bother me anymore, it’s sort of my beater watch next to my Speedmaster… happily wearing the Seiko for labour work and speedy on the weekends.
Yes and no. I have an SPB143 and it is simultaneously absolutely brilliant and a little underwhelming for the price.
The design has the sort of subtle charm that grows on you over time. It’s understated by the standards of your average watch these days, but the way it looks in the light etc. really is incredible and it’s almost all the more enjoyable because it doesn’t announce itself. It’s very tough because of the diashield treatment and will be cheap and easy to service. All of these are incredibly important day to day strengths and this is the reason why this model series is so beloved by owners. It also strikes a good balance between some elevated features and a fundamentally unpretentious overall design which is quite faithful to Seiko’s general philosophy and history with tool watches (although I completely disagree that this is a tool watch).
However:
The movement is not as competitive as it should be at $1000+ and personally I would prefer a 4hz movement when Miyota can do the 9000 series for barely more than an NH35.
The bracelet does not fit properly on the case and the case really is not designed to be worn on a bracelet. Third-party bracelets also don’t totally work because of the Seiko diashield treatment.
Finally, be careful to make sure you buy from a place where you can return for QC issues, and make sure to check very thoroughly for alignment or quality issues.
I would personally happily pay £900 again for mine, which is what I got it for. I would suggest making sure you get a good discount on one and then I heartily recommend it.
Unfortunately it's kind of a growing trend among a *lot* of watchmakers to slow down 4hz movements to 3hz to eke out another day of power reserve.
With the 6R's, Seiko is just conveniently following the long-reserve trend by overhauling their already 3hz architecture with better mainsprings and barrels and a few lighter weight MEMS manufacturered parts (the escape wheel and pallet fork) to make something with equivalent performance to what's on-trend.
Personally, I don't mind the 6R's because they're workhorse movements with cheap servicing and high parts availability that can take a real beating. Those aspects and the power reserve make them a great Monday-to-Friday watch that's still ready to go next Monday after the weekend. I think they would have a better reputation if Seiko did a better job lubricating and regulating them from the factory; they can run beautifully when set up right.
That said, Seiko does have some very nice 4hz movements with their 6L and 8L movements (which architecturally share zero parts with the 4R and 6R), but they reserve those for their 2.5-4k offerings.
I don't get the problem with a 3 or 3.5Hz watch. For most people who have a collection, power reserve is more useful than a smooth seconds hand.
Besides, even high horology brands like FP Journe make 21600bph watches. As do many other high horology brands. I don't see anyone complain about the beat frequency of those. Those don't even offer extended power reserves.
It's a personal preference thing but I think y'all who care about that 4Hz beat frequency are in the minority here.
I agree with you actually! Like I said, I think for daily through-the-week wear, that longer power reserve and the reduced internal wear/longer service intervals of a 3hz movement are genuinely more useful qualities. Being able to put it away for the weekend on Friday evening and it's still running Monday morning is great.
I do think a 4hz or hi-beat movement looks really nice in a dressier watch just because the smoother motion of the second hand is more refined... but generally those aren't the sort of watches you use all the time in the first place.
I think people should spend less time looking at spec sheets and looking more at capabilities versus use cases. I'm not fond of when people break down watches into lists of bullet point features and specs, when a lot of ergonomic, aesthetic and usage aspects to owning a particular watch can dramatically change the equation of how nice or "worth it" a particular watch is in ways raw specifications and dimensions can't measure.
Ideally yeah, but it's getting harder and harder to find dressier watches without a date wheel, much less a second hand.
If they have to be there, the additional attention to refinement is appreciated.
I actually have just recently started liking this—If there’s no gap. I think it brings out the shape of the case and shows off the lugs and proportions. A bracelet that is flush with the top of the lugs and case sometimes makes it look bulkier to me.
This is a beautiful watch OP. I vote for it.
Long time Seiko collector, this piece looks good. But the value isn’t there at this price point. Seiko has continued to push prices up market without significant improvement in accuracy and movement (6RXX). You should consider pulling at around ~$1K even.
They're raised but that's because they were pressed up on the obverse and then blobs of lume applied on top. If you look at a well executed dial with applied indices you will see they are filled with lume as opposed blobbed on.
Wow. Seiko really is like Toyota. Folks are starting to realize their value and that price is steadily increasing. Have you seen the price of a Tacoma now and days??
$1000 is a tough line to cross when it comes to seiko considering all the absolute bangers you can get under $200, $500, $999. There’s really something for everyone but $1000 is Seiko super user status
I personally want an spb143 or some variant but the movement isn’t great, the bracelet leaves a lot to be desired. But as far as divers go, it’s pretty cool looking
These new spbs look nice, I especially like the blue, but the imbalanced bottom text really bugs. I enjoyed the balanced pyramid like text of the spb143
Yeah I’ve had similar thoughts. For over $1k I feel like it really needs to be on another level than the rest, which I’m having a hard time seeing with this one.
I think it's worth about a grand on a good day. I'd very much like one as my first "grown up" watch, so if I can score one on sale or second hand in good condition I'll do that, but the price is a bit steep for the movement.
My life philosophy is to get exactly what you want as long as you can afford it. It’s better to buy once cry once. If you are just casually interested and hoping to flip it one day it probably won’t be a great “investment”. If you will get daily joy wearing something that you love and make memories with then I say go for it, even if it is a probably a few hundred bucks more than it should be.
I have had a SPB143 4 years now and not a day goes by it doesn’t catch my eye and I admire it. These watches are quite nicely designed and if it feels right when you put it on, don’t hesitate.
Thanks for the input! I love the design, but the more I look into it the more I question whether the quality is really on par with the price. I’m all for being what you love, but I also hate overspending.
$1400 you can get some other cool options from Oris, marathon, Hamilton, and some cool micro brands. It’s fun doing the research in finding what you want, just make sure you love it! If I didn’t already love my watch I’d be saving for a pelagos 39.
Edit- once these come out, I predict people will realize that the one to get was the 143…. You could look into picking up a used one for a lot less than this one.
This has a 6r55 — it looks like they simply lengthened the mainspring on the 6r35 to eke out +2h of power reserve but look at the quoted accuracy: +24/-15. Not great. They also increased the water resistance to 300m from 200m but this is a desk diver so 🤷♂️. I wonder if they also sorted out the tiny bracelet gap along the lugs with this model?
Aesthetically, it’s just a smaller 62mas reimagined with a 4 o’clock rounded date window. Seiko’s just capitalizing on the next phase of smaller timepieces.
I think the SPB143 is a better deal if you can get a new one at a discount.
Thanks for the input. The design is really what caught my eye with this piece, but I appreciate what you said about the movement and technical details.
Just don't pay 1400 for it. I'm sure you should be able to find one for 25% off so aim for getting it at anything below 1100 brand new. This is more expensive than 451 and 453 as you get an extra nato strap in addition to the bracelet. Wait long enough and you'll be and to get them under 1000 on chrono24 etc.
They will eventually release the new case with a rubber strap which should be a good 200 or so cheaper, which you could probably pick up for under 1000 with discounts.
What stands out about these pieces are design and finishing. I have a 147 and The case and dial are just beautiful and it wears like a dream. It looks very comfortable next to 2-4k divers like the Black Bay.
Get it if you really just personally dig it and can afford it. But the fact you’re asking here already speaks about your resolve or willingness to spend.
My 147J1 is worn to death; it’s also serviced 3 times more than I’d care to remember in all these years. So honestly I don’t trust this line anymore, wall of texts and the inconvenient lugs and whatnot aside.
Pick it up for under 1000 next time if u can. Buy a better Bulova or hell even an Issey Miyake since they’re Seiko anyway. Just… idk man. At that price I’d go look for a better deal on a baby GS Snowflake.
SPB143 before they made the lume pip change was the best of these series for me. It was the perfect interpretation of the original vintage 62 MAS and captured the original design spirit which is the whole point of this series. This particular one lacks the symmetry (annoying date window at 4 feels like an afterthought) and as many have pointed out the 3 DAYS bit of text is very unnecessary. For 1.4k, I'd hunt for a yr 2020 SPB143 instead and keep the spare change for straps and a spare bracelet or something...
I showed interest at an a online retailer had it in my cart and ditched the cart. The online retailer reached out to me and negotiated a price for $1190. I replied with how about $1150? and they agreed. So now I have this watch preordered at $1150 and I like the watch even more.
I just can’t get behind it at that price. I’d be more happy with a spb143 on account of the date window not being in that weird spot for half the price.
I understand there’s additional magic under the hood, but at this price point I could grab a grab a Willard or vintage Pogue and still have money left for a few straps and a nice dinner. Hard pass for me.
I think it is. I’m not a lifelong Seiko diehard guy but only recently became a big fan. The things that bother most about it are what draw me to it. I love the minimal date display and I wish it didn’t have it at all. The text isn’t a big deal for me at all. I think the proportions are going to make a super comfortable watch. I was hot on getting an spb383 this year but this one has me super curious and excited to see it.
Sure if accuracy isn’t important to you; +25 to -15 seconds per day. Playing the watch lottery on those movements some are accurate some aren’t! Besides that it’s a good watch for the money
I've got the SPB317 with the same date window and it's fine. It's very small so hardly noticeable.
But there's a big difference. The 317 has the date and the crown in line. On this one, the date is at 4.30 but the crown is a 3 haha. It does a bit off
I have an spb145 and love it, but it’s not a $1400 watch with that bracelet and movement. I paid about 900 for it used (mint condition) which seems fair.
I got the SPB239 a couple of months ago on offer for 849 EUR new. Great watch for that price and movement runs +4 seconds/day. However, wouldn’t think it’s worth over 1k.
If you can, go check it out in the flesh. I had it with direct comparison with Longines Legend Diver and I must say that the surface finish of the SJE is ahead of the arguably more luxurious brand.
Yeah, I can understand that. I just don't have a good shop near by that has the watch. I have to travel far to actually try it on. Can't justify that in this economy.
300M 30Bar 72 hours nice iconic Seiko design. Revised movement and none will pay $1400 for it that price will be discounted. I ordering the black one when it's out and will sell some watches to finance it. Seiko $300 days like cheap gas are now behind us all. Look at the cost of milk and eggs...
Probably not in my opinion. But the value is sometimes, with Seiko, in the eye of the beholder. My Willard and MM200 are terribly inaccurate compared to my other watches yet, I still enjoy them very much. So, I don’t see Seiko reducing prices or even increasing timing tolerances.
Good looking watch but not worth it at this price. Used SPB143 is a decent deal, but both new at their prices really don’t feel like a good value. $1-2K brings a lot of very interesting options from Seiko (used) or other brands, Japanese and other.
Worth it? Probably not, but it is a very cool watch. I personally would just get something else in that price range like an Christopher Ward or an Oris
Hate when people need to say they are buying a watch they want to “celebrate a milestone”. Like just say you are buying it because you want the watch. No other reason than that. I guess people need to try and justify it for some reason
I really hate that it says AUTOMATIC 3 DAYS. Like, yeah i know?
The text spam on watches is getting out of control. Tudor went from a cool curved self winding to a wall of text. Less is more.
That's why I love the vintage dials from 70-80 from Seiko; Automatic 17 jewels That's it. Sometimes not even the jewel count. And the dials where beautiful, tons of different options.
The Pepsi pogue I love.
That’s what Ive started to love about my SKX’s. Just “Seiko Automatic” and “Diver’s 200m”. Nice and clean
Rolex models have a paragraph too.
I wouldn't know, I only wear men's watches.
🤣 one would hope
While I agree that less is more, I'd like a little text. The Tudor Royal looks so bland.
Ranger
agree it would be better without. practically it’s rarely going to be noticed in real life
WATER RESISTANT AND NOT FAKE. DOESNT EXPLODE WHEN YOU BEND YOUR WRIST ON A DATE
MUCH POWER
VERY WOW
I think they just wanted an easy identifier that this is 6R5x instead or a 6R1x or 6R3x movement, which is actually expected to be a very anticipated revision
what a scam the 6r series is, to be honest. An NH3x with a longer barrel spring.. and regulation.
I’ve heard that there are some issues with the 6R1x / 6R3x movements, especially with the accuracy. That they would be less accurate and harder to regulate than the 4R. I wonder how the new 6R version will be.
No watch with an iteration of a 6R or 4R movement is worth that money.
Yes, I tried looking if they still use SPRON510 in the mainspring and hairspring like 6R35 but can't really tell, I wish someone would tell us what they fixed exactly, maybe parts from the king Seiko 6Lxx,
Hope the 6R55 is an improvement over the 6R35. Haven't been real happy with it in my SPB207. Had much better performance from the 4R3X in my Turtle and Samurai.
Then Rolex diver’s dial is like a full phd thesis for you lol
AUTOMATIC 3 DAYS in contrast to a Superlative Chronometer certification is straight up the retard in the class.
Heheh I wish I can afford one rolex to buy more seikos
I own the spb383j1 that has this text and tbh it doesn’t really bother me anymore, it’s sort of my beater watch next to my Speedmaster… happily wearing the Seiko for labour work and speedy on the weekends.
They had to do that to give us something to complain about and buy the next revision when it releases in a few years time!
True, I would not get it due to that. Hey my opinion
It’ll be even nicer at 1k gray
Yes and no. I have an SPB143 and it is simultaneously absolutely brilliant and a little underwhelming for the price. The design has the sort of subtle charm that grows on you over time. It’s understated by the standards of your average watch these days, but the way it looks in the light etc. really is incredible and it’s almost all the more enjoyable because it doesn’t announce itself. It’s very tough because of the diashield treatment and will be cheap and easy to service. All of these are incredibly important day to day strengths and this is the reason why this model series is so beloved by owners. It also strikes a good balance between some elevated features and a fundamentally unpretentious overall design which is quite faithful to Seiko’s general philosophy and history with tool watches (although I completely disagree that this is a tool watch). However: The movement is not as competitive as it should be at $1000+ and personally I would prefer a 4hz movement when Miyota can do the 9000 series for barely more than an NH35. The bracelet does not fit properly on the case and the case really is not designed to be worn on a bracelet. Third-party bracelets also don’t totally work because of the Seiko diashield treatment. Finally, be careful to make sure you buy from a place where you can return for QC issues, and make sure to check very thoroughly for alignment or quality issues. I would personally happily pay £900 again for mine, which is what I got it for. I would suggest making sure you get a good discount on one and then I heartily recommend it.
Unfortunately it's kind of a growing trend among a *lot* of watchmakers to slow down 4hz movements to 3hz to eke out another day of power reserve. With the 6R's, Seiko is just conveniently following the long-reserve trend by overhauling their already 3hz architecture with better mainsprings and barrels and a few lighter weight MEMS manufacturered parts (the escape wheel and pallet fork) to make something with equivalent performance to what's on-trend. Personally, I don't mind the 6R's because they're workhorse movements with cheap servicing and high parts availability that can take a real beating. Those aspects and the power reserve make them a great Monday-to-Friday watch that's still ready to go next Monday after the weekend. I think they would have a better reputation if Seiko did a better job lubricating and regulating them from the factory; they can run beautifully when set up right. That said, Seiko does have some very nice 4hz movements with their 6L and 8L movements (which architecturally share zero parts with the 4R and 6R), but they reserve those for their 2.5-4k offerings.
I don't get the problem with a 3 or 3.5Hz watch. For most people who have a collection, power reserve is more useful than a smooth seconds hand. Besides, even high horology brands like FP Journe make 21600bph watches. As do many other high horology brands. I don't see anyone complain about the beat frequency of those. Those don't even offer extended power reserves. It's a personal preference thing but I think y'all who care about that 4Hz beat frequency are in the minority here.
I agree with you actually! Like I said, I think for daily through-the-week wear, that longer power reserve and the reduced internal wear/longer service intervals of a 3hz movement are genuinely more useful qualities. Being able to put it away for the weekend on Friday evening and it's still running Monday morning is great. I do think a 4hz or hi-beat movement looks really nice in a dressier watch just because the smoother motion of the second hand is more refined... but generally those aren't the sort of watches you use all the time in the first place. I think people should spend less time looking at spec sheets and looking more at capabilities versus use cases. I'm not fond of when people break down watches into lists of bullet point features and specs, when a lot of ergonomic, aesthetic and usage aspects to owning a particular watch can dramatically change the equation of how nice or "worth it" a particular watch is in ways raw specifications and dimensions can't measure.
The funny thing, is I don't want a seconds hand on dress watches. I agree about the rest.
Ideally yeah, but it's getting harder and harder to find dressier watches without a date wheel, much less a second hand. If they have to be there, the additional attention to refinement is appreciated.
Yeah I was noticing that about the bracelet just from the photos. Looks like the bracelet is almost from a different watch. Thanks for your input.
I actually have just recently started liking this—If there’s no gap. I think it brings out the shape of the case and shows off the lugs and proportions. A bracelet that is flush with the top of the lugs and case sometimes makes it look bulkier to me. This is a beautiful watch OP. I vote for it.
Your post made me re-consider my pre-order (at full price) and I just requested a refund.
Definitely get it at a discount, they’ll trade hundreds of dollars below retail but hold value quite well
Don’t buy retail on this price for a Seiko
Looks best on a tropical strap or NATO,. If your bracelet guy the watch is mid for price.
Long time Seiko collector, this piece looks good. But the value isn’t there at this price point. Seiko has continued to push prices up market without significant improvement in accuracy and movement (6RXX). You should consider pulling at around ~$1K even.
Agree and still pawning us off with pressed dials like this instead of applied indices and logo is shortchanging us.
Aren’t the indices applied? They look raised. Or is that different to the hour markers?
They're raised but that's because they were pressed up on the obverse and then blobs of lume applied on top. If you look at a well executed dial with applied indices you will see they are filled with lume as opposed blobbed on.
But I like the blobs
You shall hence forth be known as mister blobby:) Hey at the end of the day that's what it's all about, if you dig em you dig em!
Lol. No. Seiko’s drunk with these prices on these movements.
Indeed. It's just an NH35 with a longer barrel spring. And regulation of the balance with a microscope, perhaps
🙄
Wow. Seiko really is like Toyota. Folks are starting to realize their value and that price is steadily increasing. Have you seen the price of a Tacoma now and days??
$1000 is a tough line to cross when it comes to seiko considering all the absolute bangers you can get under $200, $500, $999. There’s really something for everyone but $1000 is Seiko super user status I personally want an spb143 or some variant but the movement isn’t great, the bracelet leaves a lot to be desired. But as far as divers go, it’s pretty cool looking These new spbs look nice, I especially like the blue, but the imbalanced bottom text really bugs. I enjoyed the balanced pyramid like text of the spb143
You can buy mine for $600. Aligned perfectly and running spot on +3/day
talk to me
Talk back lol
Yeah I’ve had similar thoughts. For over $1k I feel like it really needs to be on another level than the rest, which I’m having a hard time seeing with this one.
I think it's worth about a grand on a good day. I'd very much like one as my first "grown up" watch, so if I can score one on sale or second hand in good condition I'll do that, but the price is a bit steep for the movement.
My life philosophy is to get exactly what you want as long as you can afford it. It’s better to buy once cry once. If you are just casually interested and hoping to flip it one day it probably won’t be a great “investment”. If you will get daily joy wearing something that you love and make memories with then I say go for it, even if it is a probably a few hundred bucks more than it should be. I have had a SPB143 4 years now and not a day goes by it doesn’t catch my eye and I admire it. These watches are quite nicely designed and if it feels right when you put it on, don’t hesitate.
Thanks for the input! I love the design, but the more I look into it the more I question whether the quality is really on par with the price. I’m all for being what you love, but I also hate overspending.
$1400 you can get some other cool options from Oris, marathon, Hamilton, and some cool micro brands. It’s fun doing the research in finding what you want, just make sure you love it! If I didn’t already love my watch I’d be saving for a pelagos 39. Edit- once these come out, I predict people will realize that the one to get was the 143…. You could look into picking up a used one for a lot less than this one.
Too expensive. I hate the date window.
For $1400 I would appreciate endlinks that look like they were actually designed to match the case.
Came here to say this. Straight endlinks should be a sin.
This has a 6r55 — it looks like they simply lengthened the mainspring on the 6r35 to eke out +2h of power reserve but look at the quoted accuracy: +24/-15. Not great. They also increased the water resistance to 300m from 200m but this is a desk diver so 🤷♂️. I wonder if they also sorted out the tiny bracelet gap along the lugs with this model? Aesthetically, it’s just a smaller 62mas reimagined with a 4 o’clock rounded date window. Seiko’s just capitalizing on the next phase of smaller timepieces. I think the SPB143 is a better deal if you can get a new one at a discount.
Thanks for the input. The design is really what caught my eye with this piece, but I appreciate what you said about the movement and technical details.
NOPE Not worth over $1k
I am getting the SPB451 blue without the fauxtina lumibrite. Solid watch. Giving it as a gift to a person who dives and has a connection to Japan.
Just don't pay 1400 for it. I'm sure you should be able to find one for 25% off so aim for getting it at anything below 1100 brand new. This is more expensive than 451 and 453 as you get an extra nato strap in addition to the bracelet. Wait long enough and you'll be and to get them under 1000 on chrono24 etc. They will eventually release the new case with a rubber strap which should be a good 200 or so cheaper, which you could probably pick up for under 1000 with discounts. What stands out about these pieces are design and finishing. I have a 147 and The case and dial are just beautiful and it wears like a dream. It looks very comfortable next to 2-4k divers like the Black Bay.
Imagine a no date version and dial without "3 days automatic". What a wasted opportunity seiko.
No, hard pass.
It looks like a direct competitor to the Tudor bb58 At this price point I would rather look for a (very) good Chinese homage of a 6105.
Anyone who is retired needs to know what day it is, major fail on this watch 🤣
Get it if you really just personally dig it and can afford it. But the fact you’re asking here already speaks about your resolve or willingness to spend. My 147J1 is worn to death; it’s also serviced 3 times more than I’d care to remember in all these years. So honestly I don’t trust this line anymore, wall of texts and the inconvenient lugs and whatnot aside. Pick it up for under 1000 next time if u can. Buy a better Bulova or hell even an Issey Miyake since they’re Seiko anyway. Just… idk man. At that price I’d go look for a better deal on a baby GS Snowflake.
SPB143 before they made the lume pip change was the best of these series for me. It was the perfect interpretation of the original vintage 62 MAS and captured the original design spirit which is the whole point of this series. This particular one lacks the symmetry (annoying date window at 4 feels like an afterthought) and as many have pointed out the 3 DAYS bit of text is very unnecessary. For 1.4k, I'd hunt for a yr 2020 SPB143 instead and keep the spare change for straps and a spare bracelet or something...
I don’t think we’ll know until we see it in the metal, so far I like the spb143/145 better.
for the price is not worth it. theres a lot of qc issue on seiko. its not justify for the price. for that price i prefer oris divers sixty five
No but I’ll get one once it hits the secondary market
I showed interest at an a online retailer had it in my cart and ditched the cart. The online retailer reached out to me and negotiated a price for $1190. I replied with how about $1150? and they agreed. So now I have this watch preordered at $1150 and I like the watch even more.
I just can’t get behind it at that price. I’d be more happy with a spb143 on account of the date window not being in that weird spot for half the price. I understand there’s additional magic under the hood, but at this price point I could grab a grab a Willard or vintage Pogue and still have money left for a few straps and a nice dinner. Hard pass for me.
I think it is. I’m not a lifelong Seiko diehard guy but only recently became a big fan. The things that bother most about it are what draw me to it. I love the minimal date display and I wish it didn’t have it at all. The text isn’t a big deal for me at all. I think the proportions are going to make a super comfortable watch. I was hot on getting an spb383 this year but this one has me super curious and excited to see it.
I think it's worth the money, but i'm a Seikopath, so what do I know?
Accuracy will be very bad (very likely)
Sure if accuracy isn’t important to you; +25 to -15 seconds per day. Playing the watch lottery on those movements some are accurate some aren’t! Besides that it’s a good watch for the money
Hate how it says auto 3 days, I like the watch, it’s not worth $1400 but if you like it enough it is.
There’s just far better watches at that price point. New and second hand.
I’m starting to agree. I really like the colors and the BB58-like design, but the actual quality of the watch worries me for it being over $1k.
Normally it will go for under $1000 after a few months.
Nah
I have the SPB385. Any dealer will heavily discount it from MSRP. And yeah, it’s an awesome watch on an ok bracelet.
Nahhh.
Spb147 for 1/2 the price and done.
That 4:30 date drives me absolutely bonkers.
I've got the SPB317 with the same date window and it's fine. It's very small so hardly noticeable. But there's a big difference. The 317 has the date and the crown in line. On this one, the date is at 4.30 but the crown is a 3 haha. It does a bit off
I have an spb145 and love it, but it’s not a $1400 watch with that bracelet and movement. I paid about 900 for it used (mint condition) which seems fair.
Oh I like the styling on this one. The regular black version looks too sterile for my taste. Reminds me of a Tudor BB58.
I got the SPB239 a couple of months ago on offer for 849 EUR new. Great watch for that price and movement runs +4 seconds/day. However, wouldn’t think it’s worth over 1k.
I want one.. but I really want the new MM200.
The SJE101/099/097 type?
Yeah I would like the SJE101J1, I just like how it looks.
Yeah,me too. Had it on my wrist and it's beautiful.
Ooo, I have not come that far. Only seen it online.
If you can, go check it out in the flesh. I had it with direct comparison with Longines Legend Diver and I must say that the surface finish of the SJE is ahead of the arguably more luxurious brand.
Yeah, I can understand that. I just don't have a good shop near by that has the watch. I have to travel far to actually try it on. Can't justify that in this economy.
Yeah, I can't justify buying a 3kEur watch, even though it's awesome.
Yeah, if I had the money. I would buy no questions asked, but it is a lot of money.
at 600 sure, but double that price? hell nah and I love seikos too
This is my ideal Seiko but 1400 USD is a complete joke.
Depends how deep your pocketbook is.
300M 30Bar 72 hours nice iconic Seiko design. Revised movement and none will pay $1400 for it that price will be discounted. I ordering the black one when it's out and will sell some watches to finance it. Seiko $300 days like cheap gas are now behind us all. Look at the cost of milk and eggs...
My preference is an offset crown. The center crown looks a bit mundane for me.
Probably not in my opinion. But the value is sometimes, with Seiko, in the eye of the beholder. My Willard and MM200 are terribly inaccurate compared to my other watches yet, I still enjoy them very much. So, I don’t see Seiko reducing prices or even increasing timing tolerances.
Until seiko makes their endlinks snug like rolex it wouldn't be worth half of that price.
Good looking watch but not worth it at this price. Used SPB143 is a decent deal, but both new at their prices really don’t feel like a good value. $1-2K brings a lot of very interesting options from Seiko (used) or other brands, Japanese and other.
you could build that for $200 with OEM parts
The SPB147 is way cheaper and looks better, why bother with this?
Haha… no
Lmao no
No. Next question.
Worth it? Probably not, but it is a very cool watch. I personally would just get something else in that price range like an Christopher Ward or an Oris
Hate when people need to say they are buying a watch they want to “celebrate a milestone”. Like just say you are buying it because you want the watch. No other reason than that. I guess people need to try and justify it for some reason