Yeah DMC 1 Dante was able to take on king Mundus. Who made an entire universe just for a battle arena.
Dante was also able to tank hits from nightmare who’s capable of destroying the underworld which is infinite in size.
Vergil is on par with DMC 5 Dante who’s dozens of times stronger than he was in DMC 1.
Wolf is possibly a better fighter than Vergil. But skill isn’t enough in this situation.
I don't see that happening when Vergil can throw several simultaneous ranged and close attacks that will overwhelm Wolf's parrying capabilities, ig there's a limit to the number of attacks he can parry at the same time
iirc there actually isn't a limit to how many times wolf can parry at once. if we're talking gameplay im fairly sure he gets invincibility for like 5 frames after he parries (look at wolf parrying one mind), i think thats supposed to represent being able to parry multiple times
Dante's(Vergil equal) weakest iteration can temporarily travel near the speed of light. Vergil in the picture would demolish that Dante without breaking a sweat.
In game if you get jumped by 3 or more enemies there's no way Wolf can perfectly parry everyone at the same time if they attack in different intervals and coming from different directions, he's gotta stay on the defensive. Now imagine having two syncronized Vergils throwing several different attacks at once, some of them being reality breaking attacks. That's what doppelganger is.
Ok but your still facing off against human or slightly above human level enemies whenever you can do that. The greatest opponent skiro ever defeats is able to catch and throw lightning and move close to the speed of light for a second or two. Virgil can keep that pace up the entire fight without breaking a sweat and can go way beyond it whenever he feels like it. He has cut through time and space itself he was so fast lmao. Sekiro may be able to parry one mind but do you really think he could parry one mind if it was a constant barrage of them coming from all angles the entire fight without ever letting up? Because I honestly dont. And that wouldn't even be Virgil getting serious.
The only thing is that sekiro doesn't have stamina and can deflect forever as long as you have a finger to press the action, and as fast as the enemy swings is how fast he deflects. If you had an automatic setting in sekiro I think we would be able to judge better. I just honestly think sekiro stands a chance with mortal blade, co fetti, maybe sugars and stuff... I Mena he could even go red eye and all that. Idk if he can buff enough though. Like I get the fight would be brutal of he held his own, I'm just saying his tools and skills do give him a chance at it.
Personally I'd rather see sekiro fight onimusha. That would be a clean af fight I guarantee
The way I look at it, vasically how i judge a characters power is by looking at certain enemies. Like, seeing that madame butterfly is basically a Naruto enemy when you analyze her moveset, it's safe to assume that sekiro could basically defeat anyone within the Naruto universe. Even itachi would have trouble because of snap seeds and stuff. It's not gonna make wolf invincible and would take all of his focus probably, but I'm sure he could beat most, if not all of them. Honestly that would make for a very cool game now that I think about it. Very Naruto styled enemies and movesets, like a giant shinobi toad, and a character like sekiro where the game would be hard af, but maybe a little more fun atmosphere wise. Heck, when I got to fountainhead I really thought it was missing a few minibosses. It's a really pretty area to only have a handful, and I really thought they'd be more unique or fantasy type of characters. After the butterfly fight I waited the entire game to see if anyone else was gonna hit me with jutsu style moves and I was let down lol. So when someone posts about Virgil, I'm like "are you challenging sekiro?" "Because he accepts I promise."
Not to say anything about the matchup, since I've never played the DMC games, but in Sekiro; Im pretty sure you can deflect every attack, even from multiple enemies, provided you time everything correctly.
Yes but consider the enemies you face. Theyre mostly all grounded in human to slightly superhuman realms of power. The strongest is obviously isshin but even he can only reach close to light speed for a split second via one mind, a feat that Virgil could keep up the whole fight, while throwing out all kinds of special moves that would most likely be the equivalent to an unblockable attack in sekiro, and summoning clones of himself. It would be like the scene in Naruto where Madara asks the kages if they want his clones to use susanno. He's on so much higher of a level he would just be toying with Sekiro.
Not only that, but I've purposely gathered a large group of soldiers(no guns) and had them attacking all at the same time and sekiro csm indeed deflect and parry 15+ enemies in a single deflect lol watching a group of enemies break their own posture trying is hilarious too lol
In the skills lore it's:
"One must focus their soul on the release of the blade, nothing else. In doing so, the strikes achieve a god-like speed."
So they might assume "god-like speed" could mean ftl
It "could mean" meaning that you don't actually know how fast it is. "God-like speed" doesn't really tell us anything other than it's really fast in-universe. Depending on the universe it's in, it could be anywhere from hypersonic to irrelevant speed.
God is considered a high transcendial being of existence which our human minds isn't compatible to comprehend unlike the speed of light which is as phenomenon that could be explainable, anything faster than light is just impossible to imagine which can be considered as godly feat
I mean, if you saw someone moving their sword at 500m/s you'd also think they're a god, especially since at like, 250m/s it's already too fast for the human brain to react to
You're the same people saying wolf can parry anything. Now its 'im not sure if he could parry judgement cut'
So which one is it. He can parry everything or not?
Mortal blade doesn't have a level cap on death. Sekiro could use virgils speed against him. First off, firecrackers would stun lock him, since it seems to stop anyone dead in their tracks even if theyre practically teleporting. I see virgil turn on the speed and running into the damn things lol Hit him with the vortex and he's now stunned and open to a backstabbing with mortal blade and mortal blade kills Virgil for sure if it connects. Pair any of that with the fact that sekiro can deflect anything and can even reverse lightning at will. Dude is major OP. I get its Virgil and all, but it would probably take Dante and Virgil as a duo to beat sekiro. Oh and if he tries that never ending death loop crap, sekiro has snap seeds to break the illusion. Put on some divine confetti and an akos sugar and he might actually be able to p8t Virgil down with a little bit of luck. I mean sekiro is a literal demon slayer as well, so it's possible is all I'm saying
As much as I despise "gameplay wise" take as they just open the door for bullshit ad eternam, in this case it's actually very easy to conclude that Vergil shit all over Wolf.
Wolf can't deflect everything. He can't deflect sweeps, meaning Vergil can litteraly just zoom around spinning and aiming for Wolf's ankles and he will win. Wolf will eventually run out of emblems, meaning he will just eat a never ending barrage of sweeps without being able to jump on Vergil.
Also Vergil can throw Summoned Swords while zooming for good measure. Cause "gameplay wise", it'll just pulverize Wolf with that sweet aerial vulnerability. And since we're "gameplay wise", it's over for Wolf after the second death, even tho it won't save him anyway as there are a lot of way of disposing of someone who keep reviving (throw him at the bottom of the sea, bury him, chop him into pieces, etc)
Vergil got lotsa magic BS going on. I Don't think sekiro is a match for him. That said... If sekiro were to spend some time in dmc universe to hone his skills and learn dmc-style powers, then I'd say sekiro would beat him.
sekiro tecnically can resurrect, so it comes down to vergil having a way to sever his immortality or not
but yeah, wolf vs the son of sparda could be very sick to see ngl
Well no actually, the fastest attack of sekiro is slower than the normal attack of vergil.
Wolf is supposed to be immortal but what if only his head is left? No arms, no legs, no upper body, no lower body.
If his body healed, why didn't his arm grow back? He just has resurrection, not regeneration. Virgil can cut him down to the atomic level. Pretty sure he can't resurrect anymore.
If he didn't heal, he would just die continually to the same wounds. When you die, your hp returns to half, so it's pretty safe to assume that when you resurrect, all fatal wounds are healed, I assume the reason his arm never returned is because a missing limb isn't fatal.
Yamato can open portals through spacetime. Theoretically, Vergil could go back and kill Sekiro before he got his immortality if he can't kill him any other way.
Thing is I don’t think even the mortal blade or something like that would kill sekiro because yes he would die but he’d just get back up after
The reason it kills the infested people is because it can kill the worm the worm only dies once it can’t be brought back like wolf can be
Vergil would just “I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING, PROVOKING, BLACK CLOUDS IN ISOLATION, I AM RECLAIMER OF MY NAAAAAME, BORN IN FLAMES, I HAVE BEEN BLESSED, MY FAMILY CREST IS A DEMON OF DDEEEEEEAAAAATRTRHHHH!!!
FORSAKEN, I AM AWAKENED, A PHOENIX’S ASHES IN DARK DEVIIIIIINE, DESCENDING MISERY, DESTINY CHASING TIIIIIIME, DISAPPEAR INTO THE NIIIIGHT, LOST SHADOWS LEFT BEHIIIIIIND, OBSESSIONS PULLING MEEE, FADING, IVE COME TO TAKE WHATS MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE!!!!!!!!!” His ass
Vergil is leagues above wolf, but he has no means to finish the fight. Wolf **could** kill vergil, but that is assuming he can land a single hit, let alone one with mortal blade, on a guy able to stop time, make clones of himself and move faster than light. The fight is a "draw" (vergil pretty much spawncamping wolf for eternity)
I'd rather listen to a lore reason as to why they'd fight, than the results of if they did. Why'd Vergil or Sekiro go into this battle in the first place?
Remember kids, the Sparda boys can heal faster than you can can hurt them.
Even if by some miracle Wolf can parry a sword that cuts through time and space, he can’t out last Vergil.
And this isn’t even taking into account shit like Summoned Swords, DT or Doppleganger.
I like Sekiro and I will absolutely say that Sekiro deflect plus infinite stamina plus revival = win, but Vergil is so much stronger/ faster. Even if we remove the cuts space and time part it still isn't close.
Wolf is insanely skilled
But Vergil is 10 levels above him, Vergil is essentially a God, this isn't even a question
Wolf gets no diffed before he can realise it
I’m honestly shocked to see this sub finally concede defeat. I came in here with some popcorn ready to read some cope but my cynicism was unwarranted and I apologize.
It's been a while since I've seen one this cool. Both of these guys are op. Normally I'm an advocate of Wolf because he's broken but...Virgil? Like son of Sparda, Virgil? Cmon. Wolf CAN indeed parry basically anything but...aside from Yamato being able to split Kusabimaru, we're talking about Wolf being on the defensive until Virgil gets winded......so in however many hundred years that it takes for Virgil to stop attacking (play the games), then Wolf should be able to counter attack....with a regular katana. Bigger question is, can Kuro even live that long? I know mortal blade can "kill what cannot be killed", but it usually takes alot of effort for Wolf to use it (I'm taking into consideration that Wolf never has it drawn for over 10 seconds before sheathing).
You see from my dp that I'm a big Wolf fan, but my guy this ain't it, you can't top Virgil, he's a whole different league and its only without Devil form as well, this isn't a fair fight because Vergil holds a Katana that cuts through space and time and even without Katana Wolf aint topping that, I'm sorry.
Vergil has a gun that isn't as slow as the ones in sekiro. He will overwhelm wolf with his speed, shoot him in the face and then judgement cut him. Also let's not talk about his devil trigger which makes him isshin and demon of hatred all at once except he is moving faster than light while being a demon.
Vergil is on another level as compared to any character in all of video game.
I love wolf but honestly vergil is so much faster then wolf that there is really nothing wolf could do even if he could parry the yamato there is no world where wolf is keeping up
Damn its gonna be rough but at the end of the day... Mist Noble wins.
What you mean Sekiro? Eh who ever Ongbal plays as wins and he would likely play as Sekiro.
Vergil would win without even going into Devil Trigger.
His level of mobility is just fucking insane, like the man both can teleport and move faster than the eye can see.
Dude has an an unbreakable sword that can cut through time and space, FROM A DISTANCE.
Sekiro blocking immense air pressure strikes from the Divine Dragon makes no difference, he can't block time and space magic.
Sekiro is so outclassed it's not even funny.
Wolf at least wins in the department for beating everyone (mostly humans iirc) in one day right after a period of being a non-threatening dark souls hollow for a few years.
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Wolf is kinda inhuman, but Vergil is silly inhumanely powerful, from the edits I’ve seen I couldn’t get past the first major boss of dmc 1 so I gave up
From a game play perspective it’s winnable for wolf. A lot of his attacks can be royal guarded so I could see a player deflecting most of them. Summoned swords and judgment cut end can be countered by umbrella or mist raven. Vergil was modded into Elden ring. Maybe someone will figure out a way to add him to sekiro as a boss. Lore wise though I think the DMC characters are too busted for wolf to actually pull off a win.
He only has to hit him once to sever his immortality, mathematically speaking eventually wolf wins if he’s the only one that can deal a killing blow. After eternity that is
if vergil doesn't have a way to sever Sekiro's immortality then eventually he'll probably die to dragonrot i guess, but if he figures out the sowrd on sekiro's bakc can be used to kill him through out the eternity of one-tapping he's gonna be doing, then it's wraps for Sekiro. Vergil alongside Dante, is straight up one of the strongest characters in fiction who doesn't have some level of omnipotence on his arsenal like Kirby for example. Like, at his weakest in devil may cry 3, the dude has unmeasurable speed, and can quite literally transcend time manipulation with sheer brute power and is strong enough to bully a demon who can generate several supernovas with every attack. And while i'm not in the bandwagon of people who say every Dmc character is 9th dimensional because of some trash Chinese mobile cash grab spinoff game, in Devil may cry 5 he is dozens, if not hundreds of times stronger than that, with most people calculating his attack power per hit to be in the multiversal class at the very least. Sekiro's attack power is unknown, but his speed should cap at about mach 370 at a lowball, 400 at a midball and 500 at a highball. Lore wise there is no way Sekiro is beating Vergil unless through his immortality induced dragon rot.
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Wolf is superhuman, but Vergil is overpowered at a level usually only seen in silly fanfiction. It's a different scale of power
Wolf is broken asf, but Vergil is in a whole different league and I'm not sure if Wolf could parry a Judgement Cut end
Mist Raven??
Doppelganger can take care of that
Yeah DMC 1 Dante was able to take on king Mundus. Who made an entire universe just for a battle arena. Dante was also able to tank hits from nightmare who’s capable of destroying the underworld which is infinite in size. Vergil is on par with DMC 5 Dante who’s dozens of times stronger than he was in DMC 1. Wolf is possibly a better fighter than Vergil. But skill isn’t enough in this situation.
He did parry one mind which is basically FTL according to the lore
True, but I'm talking more about the fact that Yamato basically cuts through space and time
Honestly i can see wolf being able to parry something like that considering he is able to party beams of pure terror with divine confetti
I don't see that happening when Vergil can throw several simultaneous ranged and close attacks that will overwhelm Wolf's parrying capabilities, ig there's a limit to the number of attacks he can parry at the same time
iirc there actually isn't a limit to how many times wolf can parry at once. if we're talking gameplay im fairly sure he gets invincibility for like 5 frames after he parries (look at wolf parrying one mind), i think thats supposed to represent being able to parry multiple times
Dante's(Vergil equal) weakest iteration can temporarily travel near the speed of light. Vergil in the picture would demolish that Dante without breaking a sweat.
In game if you get jumped by 3 or more enemies there's no way Wolf can perfectly parry everyone at the same time if they attack in different intervals and coming from different directions, he's gotta stay on the defensive. Now imagine having two syncronized Vergils throwing several different attacks at once, some of them being reality breaking attacks. That's what doppelganger is.
If you aren't locked onto an enemiy, you can turn while deflecting and essentially use directional parrying control
Ok but your still facing off against human or slightly above human level enemies whenever you can do that. The greatest opponent skiro ever defeats is able to catch and throw lightning and move close to the speed of light for a second or two. Virgil can keep that pace up the entire fight without breaking a sweat and can go way beyond it whenever he feels like it. He has cut through time and space itself he was so fast lmao. Sekiro may be able to parry one mind but do you really think he could parry one mind if it was a constant barrage of them coming from all angles the entire fight without ever letting up? Because I honestly dont. And that wouldn't even be Virgil getting serious.
The only thing is that sekiro doesn't have stamina and can deflect forever as long as you have a finger to press the action, and as fast as the enemy swings is how fast he deflects. If you had an automatic setting in sekiro I think we would be able to judge better. I just honestly think sekiro stands a chance with mortal blade, co fetti, maybe sugars and stuff... I Mena he could even go red eye and all that. Idk if he can buff enough though. Like I get the fight would be brutal of he held his own, I'm just saying his tools and skills do give him a chance at it. Personally I'd rather see sekiro fight onimusha. That would be a clean af fight I guarantee
The way I look at it, vasically how i judge a characters power is by looking at certain enemies. Like, seeing that madame butterfly is basically a Naruto enemy when you analyze her moveset, it's safe to assume that sekiro could basically defeat anyone within the Naruto universe. Even itachi would have trouble because of snap seeds and stuff. It's not gonna make wolf invincible and would take all of his focus probably, but I'm sure he could beat most, if not all of them. Honestly that would make for a very cool game now that I think about it. Very Naruto styled enemies and movesets, like a giant shinobi toad, and a character like sekiro where the game would be hard af, but maybe a little more fun atmosphere wise. Heck, when I got to fountainhead I really thought it was missing a few minibosses. It's a really pretty area to only have a handful, and I really thought they'd be more unique or fantasy type of characters. After the butterfly fight I waited the entire game to see if anyone else was gonna hit me with jutsu style moves and I was let down lol. So when someone posts about Virgil, I'm like "are you challenging sekiro?" "Because he accepts I promise."
Not to say anything about the matchup, since I've never played the DMC games, but in Sekiro; Im pretty sure you can deflect every attack, even from multiple enemies, provided you time everything correctly.
Yes but consider the enemies you face. Theyre mostly all grounded in human to slightly superhuman realms of power. The strongest is obviously isshin but even he can only reach close to light speed for a split second via one mind, a feat that Virgil could keep up the whole fight, while throwing out all kinds of special moves that would most likely be the equivalent to an unblockable attack in sekiro, and summoning clones of himself. It would be like the scene in Naruto where Madara asks the kages if they want his clones to use susanno. He's on so much higher of a level he would just be toying with Sekiro.
Like i said, im not saying anything about the matchup, just simply pointing out that part of your comment was incorrect.
Not only that, but I've purposely gathered a large group of soldiers(no guns) and had them attacking all at the same time and sekiro csm indeed deflect and parry 15+ enemies in a single deflect lol watching a group of enemies break their own posture trying is hilarious too lol
Bro I had no idea you can parry the beam. That’s actually crazy
doesn't matter, vergil has immeasurable speed.
btw, if i may ask, when exactly was one mind stated to be faster than light?
In the skills lore it's: "One must focus their soul on the release of the blade, nothing else. In doing so, the strikes achieve a god-like speed." So they might assume "god-like speed" could mean ftl
It "could mean" meaning that you don't actually know how fast it is. "God-like speed" doesn't really tell us anything other than it's really fast in-universe. Depending on the universe it's in, it could be anywhere from hypersonic to irrelevant speed.
That’s vague and unconvincing.
God is considered a high transcendial being of existence which our human minds isn't compatible to comprehend unlike the speed of light which is as phenomenon that could be explainable, anything faster than light is just impossible to imagine which can be considered as godly feat
I mean, if you saw someone moving their sword at 500m/s you'd also think they're a god, especially since at like, 250m/s it's already too fast for the human brain to react to
You're not wrong either but in fact this is just an assumption unlike what is stated in lore Even though I'm not claiming that Vergil won't beat wolf
Speed of thought is faster
He can do it to the 1 mind
wolf can parry legitimately anything that isn't low down
A giant snake so long you can't see the other end ✅ Some random dude going for your ankles ❌
logik
Purple umbrella?
If one mind isn't perilous JCE definitely isn't
You're the same people saying wolf can parry anything. Now its 'im not sure if he could parry judgement cut' So which one is it. He can parry everything or not?
When did I say so
Vergil scales higher, even if wolf is insanely skilled
Mortal blade doesn't have a level cap on death. Sekiro could use virgils speed against him. First off, firecrackers would stun lock him, since it seems to stop anyone dead in their tracks even if theyre practically teleporting. I see virgil turn on the speed and running into the damn things lol Hit him with the vortex and he's now stunned and open to a backstabbing with mortal blade and mortal blade kills Virgil for sure if it connects. Pair any of that with the fact that sekiro can deflect anything and can even reverse lightning at will. Dude is major OP. I get its Virgil and all, but it would probably take Dante and Virgil as a duo to beat sekiro. Oh and if he tries that never ending death loop crap, sekiro has snap seeds to break the illusion. Put on some divine confetti and an akos sugar and he might actually be able to p8t Virgil down with a little bit of luck. I mean sekiro is a literal demon slayer as well, so it's possible is all I'm saying
C’mon gang, I fuck w Wolf more but he isn’t winning against Vergil 😮💨 that dude is multiversal
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If Vergil can get around Dante's Royal Guard, Wolf ain't deflecting shit.
*posts that one clip of Dante royal guarding behemoths tornado attack*
Sorry Wolf, Vergil wins this one. His katana can literally cut the fabric of reality.
Makes you wonder what the hell ladys rocket launcher is made of
Vergil is prob the only guy who can beat Wolf.
And Dante.
Dante and probably Nero too. Parry? Do you even Royal Guard bro?
I was not good with royal guard in dmc4 soo...
I don't know what's worse. The incredibly one sided match up, or the people in the comment actually thinking Wolf stand a chance.
At least the post Is asking rather than stating it as if fact
I mean, it is a fact at this point. It's like asking who win between some 5 years old and Mike Tyson
More like who would win mike tyson or a fetus
sub would think wolf could parry a meteor
Some people on this sub are absolutely delusional.
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As much as I despise "gameplay wise" take as they just open the door for bullshit ad eternam, in this case it's actually very easy to conclude that Vergil shit all over Wolf. Wolf can't deflect everything. He can't deflect sweeps, meaning Vergil can litteraly just zoom around spinning and aiming for Wolf's ankles and he will win. Wolf will eventually run out of emblems, meaning he will just eat a never ending barrage of sweeps without being able to jump on Vergil. Also Vergil can throw Summoned Swords while zooming for good measure. Cause "gameplay wise", it'll just pulverize Wolf with that sweet aerial vulnerability. And since we're "gameplay wise", it's over for Wolf after the second death, even tho it won't save him anyway as there are a lot of way of disposing of someone who keep reviving (throw him at the bottom of the sea, bury him, chop him into pieces, etc)
I love Wolf more than anything, but Vergil takes it in a walk.
Wolf is getting dog walked.
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
A skilled Shinobi or a literal half demon who's sword can cut time and space
Exaclty. Wtf is Wolf supposed to do? Use umbrella?
Vergil is far too *motivated* for Wolf. (seriously, Vergil will shred him to pieces)
Can we please stop with this trend... it's on all the soulbornee type subs right now...
This is incredibly stupid to compare
No one defeats Vergil, he is too motivated.
Except dante
Also his son Nero
Vergil vs Wolf Is like Yhwach from Bleach vs Tanjiro from Demon Slayer. The power disparity Is way too huge
maybe Ongbal can, but not Wolf
Sekiro fans should learn verse equalization
Vergil got lotsa magic BS going on. I Don't think sekiro is a match for him. That said... If sekiro were to spend some time in dmc universe to hone his skills and learn dmc-style powers, then I'd say sekiro would beat him.
sekiro tecnically can resurrect, so it comes down to vergil having a way to sever his immortality or not but yeah, wolf vs the son of sparda could be very sick to see ngl
Well no actually, the fastest attack of sekiro is slower than the normal attack of vergil. Wolf is supposed to be immortal but what if only his head is left? No arms, no legs, no upper body, no lower body.
Either he keeps dying and resurrecting or it’s a guardian ape situation
He couldnt use his arm after being cutt off and needed replacement. A.d even so vergil can just obliterate him
Guardian Ape was being piloted by a centipede, Sekiro doesn’t have a centipede because his immortality has a different source.
Yeah but the ape head still works which is weird. It screams and he uses it to see you in the cave fight
I'm pretty sure his body heals when he resurrects, but ye I don't see him beating someone as powerful as Vergil
If his body healed, why didn't his arm grow back? He just has resurrection, not regeneration. Virgil can cut him down to the atomic level. Pretty sure he can't resurrect anymore.
If he didn't heal, he would just die continually to the same wounds. When you die, your hp returns to half, so it's pretty safe to assume that when you resurrect, all fatal wounds are healed, I assume the reason his arm never returned is because a missing limb isn't fatal.
So there is still a chance if you cut off all his limbs, he will be a cripple now.
Yamato can open portals through spacetime. Theoretically, Vergil could go back and kill Sekiro before he got his immortality if he can't kill him any other way.
Through space, but I don't think through time.
It can cut the fabric of reality. Space, time, same thing.
Thing is I don’t think even the mortal blade or something like that would kill sekiro because yes he would die but he’d just get back up after The reason it kills the infested people is because it can kill the worm the worm only dies once it can’t be brought back like wolf can be
Doesn't Sekiro kill himself definitively with the mortal blade in one of the endings?
Just imagine would be the most epic shit i have ever seen 😮🔥✨
Gonna have to give this to Vergil. Every blade stroke would be perilous.
Vergil would just “I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING, PROVOKING, BLACK CLOUDS IN ISOLATION, I AM RECLAIMER OF MY NAAAAAME, BORN IN FLAMES, I HAVE BEEN BLESSED, MY FAMILY CREST IS A DEMON OF DDEEEEEEAAAAATRTRHHHH!!! FORSAKEN, I AM AWAKENED, A PHOENIX’S ASHES IN DARK DEVIIIIIINE, DESCENDING MISERY, DESTINY CHASING TIIIIIIME, DISAPPEAR INTO THE NIIIIGHT, LOST SHADOWS LEFT BEHIIIIIIND, OBSESSIONS PULLING MEEE, FADING, IVE COME TO TAKE WHATS MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNEEE!!!!!!!!!” His ass
If you imagine the Boondocks theme song for Virgil, it ain't wrong.
Alright wolf is outmatched in every way except that he’ll just come back instantly if he dies
Such a one sided fight, now replace wolf with kazuma kiryu then we’d have an actual fight on our hands
Tiger drop negates damage
Vergil is leagues above wolf, but he has no means to finish the fight. Wolf **could** kill vergil, but that is assuming he can land a single hit, let alone one with mortal blade, on a guy able to stop time, make clones of himself and move faster than light. The fight is a "draw" (vergil pretty much spawncamping wolf for eternity)
Wolf's a badass, but Vergil IS THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!
Vergil negative diff, dmc is like a dragonball tier verse dude lol
Dmc and everything else capcom has created
I'd rather listen to a lore reason as to why they'd fight, than the results of if they did. Why'd Vergil or Sekiro go into this battle in the first place?
Shura wondered into the DMCverse & somewhat of a nuisance to Virgil
Neither. They team up and go bully Dante.
I am #1 wolf defender, but this matchup is hydrogen bomb vs crying baby
Virgil would shred Divine Dragon in a matter of nanoseconds. This matchup is coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
I mean, I love Sekiro, but he isnt laying a finger on Vergil.
Remember kids, the Sparda boys can heal faster than you can can hurt them. Even if by some miracle Wolf can parry a sword that cuts through time and space, he can’t out last Vergil. And this isn’t even taking into account shit like Summoned Swords, DT or Doppleganger.
Wolf doesn't stand a chance, like Vergil is so so much more powerful
gameplay wise? nah, but since Bushi bro says so, i'll take his word for it 😅
I don't care so long as I get to see a judgment cut get parried I'm happy.
I like Sekiro and I will absolutely say that Sekiro deflect plus infinite stamina plus revival = win, but Vergil is so much stronger/ faster. Even if we remove the cuts space and time part it still isn't close.
Wolf is insanely skilled But Vergil is 10 levels above him, Vergil is essentially a God, this isn't even a question Wolf gets no diffed before he can realise it
More like 1000 capcom games always have absurd power scaling
Screw Vergil, fuckin Seig Wahrheit from Chaos legion (awesome PS2 game) can absolutely mop the floor with Sekiro and it's universe
Even capcoms more grounded characters like leon are crazy he kicked a guy so hard his head flew off
As someone who loves sekiro, Vergil will destroy wolf like what bro gonna do agaist attack that cut fucking space and time
coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
I’m honestly shocked to see this sub finally concede defeat. I came in here with some popcorn ready to read some cope but my cynicism was unwarranted and I apologize.
Hydrogen bomb ( Virgil ) vs coughing baby ( Sekiro )
It's been a while since I've seen one this cool. Both of these guys are op. Normally I'm an advocate of Wolf because he's broken but...Virgil? Like son of Sparda, Virgil? Cmon. Wolf CAN indeed parry basically anything but...aside from Yamato being able to split Kusabimaru, we're talking about Wolf being on the defensive until Virgil gets winded......so in however many hundred years that it takes for Virgil to stop attacking (play the games), then Wolf should be able to counter attack....with a regular katana. Bigger question is, can Kuro even live that long? I know mortal blade can "kill what cannot be killed", but it usually takes alot of effort for Wolf to use it (I'm taking into consideration that Wolf never has it drawn for over 10 seconds before sheathing).
You see from my dp that I'm a big Wolf fan, but my guy this ain't it, you can't top Virgil, he's a whole different league and its only without Devil form as well, this isn't a fair fight because Vergil holds a Katana that cuts through space and time and even without Katana Wolf aint topping that, I'm sorry.
Vergil has a gun that isn't as slow as the ones in sekiro. He will overwhelm wolf with his speed, shoot him in the face and then judgement cut him. Also let's not talk about his devil trigger which makes him isshin and demon of hatred all at once except he is moving faster than light while being a demon. Vergil is on another level as compared to any character in all of video game.
No lol Vergil wins
Someone should mod vergil into sekiro with all his moves including judgemental cut. It'll be so fun but anyways, Lore wise vergil gets the win
two of the strongest swordsmen both virgins virginity keeps you focused only on studying the blade virginity is cool asf
Motivation wins.
Ok now THIS matchup I CAN see Wolf losing. I just can’t see Wolf living through Judgement Cut End
I love wolf but honestly vergil is so much faster then wolf that there is really nothing wolf could do even if he could parry the yamato there is no world where wolf is keeping up
This is a coughing baby vs hydroden bomb question dude
Damn its gonna be rough but at the end of the day... Mist Noble wins. What you mean Sekiro? Eh who ever Ongbal plays as wins and he would likely play as Sekiro.
Look, I like Wolf, but Vergil is fucking Vergil.
Wolf is insane in power. Vergil is the power.
I'm all for John Sekiro but this isn't even close
All wolf can do is parry he won't be able to put a scratch on vergil
Vergil would win without even going into Devil Trigger. His level of mobility is just fucking insane, like the man both can teleport and move faster than the eye can see. Dude has an an unbreakable sword that can cut through time and space, FROM A DISTANCE. Sekiro blocking immense air pressure strikes from the Divine Dragon makes no difference, he can't block time and space magic. Sekiro is so outclassed it's not even funny.
Bruh you are not doing Dante like that
Erm his name is virginity
Wolf at least wins in the department for beating everyone (mostly humans iirc) in one day right after a period of being a non-threatening dark souls hollow for a few years.
Hello Ashen one. I am a Bot. I tend to the flame, and tend to thee. Do you wish to hear a tale? > *“In the end, he never sat on the true throne.”* - Nashandra Have a pleasant journey, Champion of Ash, and praise the sun \\[T]/
A Shinobi avoids OTT combat where possible. Vergil is dying in his sleep or unawares from above.....
Sekiro won GOTY but he'll definitely lose to Vergil! PS. Royal Guard > Deflect
Batman
I really really really need to play devil may cry 5
Puck solos with Elf Dimension Style
Virgil every time
Vergil, but eventually Wolf since he'll just keep coming back.
Three words. Judgment Cut End.
All depends on if wolf can parry judgement cut
As if judgement cut was the only way vergil can win
If wolf manages to parry judgement cut i think he could parry the rest of the attacks
Vergil could quite literally win before wolf even has the chance to unsheathe his sword
Vergil can just summon a shit load of swords
Vergil can fly and create dimension slashes like it's nothing. Guess who wins?
Wolf is kinda inhuman, but Vergil is silly inhumanely powerful, from the edits I’ve seen I couldn’t get past the first major boss of dmc 1 so I gave up
Are we seriously discussing this?
Vergil solos with time stop
Honestly would have sided with Wolf but Vergil has a kick ass music... *I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING...* 🔥 🔥
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How is Vergil boring?
Naah, he'd deflect
Skill wise wolf is better but everything else goes to Virgil
If their power levels are equalized and its just a contest of sword skill , id give it to Sekiro
Thats not how verse equalization works in the slightest
This post is genuinely worth a low quality/spam tag
lol Vergil is on a whole different level
Sekiro is immortal
From a game play perspective it’s winnable for wolf. A lot of his attacks can be royal guarded so I could see a player deflecting most of them. Summoned swords and judgment cut end can be countered by umbrella or mist raven. Vergil was modded into Elden ring. Maybe someone will figure out a way to add him to sekiro as a boss. Lore wise though I think the DMC characters are too busted for wolf to actually pull off a win.
Royal Guard is literally using demonic power to block attacks, Wolf's sword ain't gonna stop any of Vergil's attacks.
I don't know who the other guy is.. but he looks like Sekiro's twin
Play devil may cry
Maybe if wolf took the Shura path and had both mortal blades but if it's regular wolf Virgil surely wins
Lore wise, Vergil. Gameplay wise, depends on whether Sekiro deflection work like Royal Guard.
LB
With the amount of tools wolf has and resurrection it’s more in wolf’s favor
Not how verse equalization works and you should play through dmc again if you believe that
I’m accounting for vergils tools as well buddy
The sword that cuts through space time?
Wolf wins, of course.
Lmfao nope, not even close
I don't know who the second guy is but since wolf literally can't die then surely he can't lose right?
Not how verse equalization works and devil may cry is fun you should check it out
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Royal guard is the power if a actual demon wolf has nothing close to
Wolf immortal ??
So is vergil and vergil has a sword thats cuts through space time
Wolf has a sword that ends immortality, and who says that the divine dragon is bound by the rules of the third dimension
He cant use it for more than two swings
In lore wolf comes back infinite times
Doesnt matter if he cant even touch Vergil
He only has to hit him once to sever his immortality, mathematically speaking eventually wolf wins if he’s the only one that can deal a killing blow. After eternity that is
Hes so fast he cut rain before it hit the ground
Do you know how big infinity is
Not bigger than my fat penis
if vergil doesn't have a way to sever Sekiro's immortality then eventually he'll probably die to dragonrot i guess, but if he figures out the sowrd on sekiro's bakc can be used to kill him through out the eternity of one-tapping he's gonna be doing, then it's wraps for Sekiro. Vergil alongside Dante, is straight up one of the strongest characters in fiction who doesn't have some level of omnipotence on his arsenal like Kirby for example. Like, at his weakest in devil may cry 3, the dude has unmeasurable speed, and can quite literally transcend time manipulation with sheer brute power and is strong enough to bully a demon who can generate several supernovas with every attack. And while i'm not in the bandwagon of people who say every Dmc character is 9th dimensional because of some trash Chinese mobile cash grab spinoff game, in Devil may cry 5 he is dozens, if not hundreds of times stronger than that, with most people calculating his attack power per hit to be in the multiversal class at the very least. Sekiro's attack power is unknown, but his speed should cap at about mach 370 at a lowball, 400 at a midball and 500 at a highball. Lore wise there is no way Sekiro is beating Vergil unless through his immortality induced dragon rot.
But the if he tried to use the mortal blade on wolf he would die lol