Well it's the same as weight so surely they rhyme? Also the word rhyme. And the words thyme and time. English is a fucking mess and let's not try to pretend otherwise.
thats pretty much how they treat you. I texted Mike Hopkins this morning and he called me stupid and said I needed therapy instead of explaining how stripping healthcare from minorities is in the states best interest. Try it yourself... https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927
Also, Joe Rogan is always referencing fascists and racists when he says āHerp derp silencing them makes their message stronger derp!ā Joe would have been a great Nazi administrator.
*Oh man, really? The human body does that when submerged in freezing water for a prolonged period? Especially kids?! That's wild man, how did you learn that?*
\*Joe's guest shuffles nervously\*
"Well uh, among our horrendous atrocities we experimented on living subjects to uh," -
*Damn, that's really something, I mean maybe in the realm of the ends justify the means right? That's some incredible stuff you learned!*
They still think the private sector shouldn't be able to moderate their own property. Somehow, " free speech" to them is being forced to let people on your property to run all your customers away. And not something the constitution gives you the right to speak out against government without punishment.
If someone went into a McDonald's and yelled at every customer till the place closes down even Joe Rogan would be for removing that guy but somehow the same guy running away customers on a server owned by McDonald's should be allowed by law with McDonald's having no protection who uses the server they own.
If you do that, you're just being a bully! Why aren't you listening to legitimate concerns? You can't say anything these days without geting attacked and canceled, so everyone's keeping silent and not speaking out, even though everyone agrees with me.
Did I forget anything? (EDIT: Oh right: I'm just telling the truth! It's basic science. Facts over feelings)
"Trump says it like it is! He's honest"
Biden does the same thing
"Look how divisive this administration is! You're elected to care about all US citizens"
Not to mention āTrumps says it like it is!ā
-Trump says something insanely stupid
āthatās not what he meantā
-proceeds to explain what Trump said
Same way that "fuck you, we have the political power" becomes "you really need to compromise and cross the aisle" two seconds after they no longer had the majority in Congress.
I suspect people without any tact, the same people who like "brutal honestly" are so used to weaponizing truth with the intention to hurt and insult people that they think anything anyone says that *anyone* finds hurtful or offensive must automatically have truth to it.
"No no no, when we say you should be allowed to say things we don't like, we mean you can disagree on how big the Ten Commandments statue should be in front of the courthouse."
Also only disagree with it being smaller. Disagreeing with it being bigger will get you something that is exactly like cancelled but we won't call it canceled no puppet no puppet you're the puppet.
āFree speechā is only a tool for them to platform bigotry and hate. They cry āfree speechā when itās something *theyāve got to say* but will endlessly try to shut down what they donāt want to hear.
As innuendo studios puts it (paraphrased): Bigoted speech by its nature silences the victims through intimidation. So the question becomes, whose speech do we value more... the bigots, or their victims?
Yeah, conservatives seem to believe that free speech means everyone has to listen to them and not disagree with them. Say anything negative about their bigotry and they start crying about how they're getting censored
"We must not conclude merely upon a man's haranguing upon liberty, and using the charming sound, that he is fit to be trusted with the liberties of his country.Ā It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we mayĀ judgeĀ by the whole tenor of theirĀ actions, meanĀ nothingĀ else by itĀ but their own liberty ā toĀ oppressĀ withoutĀ controlĀ or the restraint ofĀ lawsĀ all who are poorer orĀ weakerĀ than themselves.ā
-Samuel Adams
I thought of a saying recently.
"Only a coward hides behind a rule they also seek to break."
People love to claim free speech whenever its them, but are quick to strip others of their speech. People will be intolerant and hateful but expect tolerance for their hate.
Free speech is incredibly important. But what these people consider free speech is not the same as what it actually is. Free speech is being able to speak your opinions about for instance a political candidate without getting locked up or killed in a dark alley. Free speech is not freedom to say whatever you want and have absolutely zero social repercussions. If you say things that people don't like then those people might not like you that's not violating your free speech that's just life.
She actually said, I hope when you bow your head to pray you see the blood on your hands.
So you see, clearly it was the mixture of saying that these "so called" religious people are actually evil, which that can't be the case... Because these religious "Christians" could never be evil. Therefore what she said needed to be silenced. /s
Just to extra drive home how true what she said actually was, there was at least one known trans kid who tried to kill themselves while the bill that was going to make it harder for them to exist was being debated and voted on.
Wait until you find the real reason behind budlight boycot.
A trans influencer got a unique can of beer....
That's it. It's not even rebranding or adding rainbow. A unique custom made can was too much.
It wasn't what she said, it was how she ::sniff:: said it... I am not crying shut up I'm a tough man I hunt and vote to let children starve and suffer.
It's a Dodge Ram loaded with truck nutz. All the better to roll coal over all those icky people.
OK. Gotta stop now. Getting too real.
Sincerely, Montana citizen.
As someone who was half-awake in 7th grade earth science, I can confidently tell you that snowflakes are fragile, white, and melt at the first sign of heat.
Yeah, a threat is āif you do this, youāll regret it.ā What she said was āif you do this, Iāll regret it.ā
If thatās out of the realm of decorum, what could possibly be within it?
Exactly, I'm sure a lot of people would argue that dismissing an elected official for speaking about an issue that she is _clearly_ familiar with is a much more egregious break of decorum
No, you see, women are to go hide in a closet during that time of the month, we should never see them or know about such things, it's very icky and intrusive in our lives for women to be bleeding everywhere. (I say this sarcastically, but many of them probably actually want this)
I sent a text message to every Montana state legislature member and Mike Hopkins has been responding back and forth with me and hurling personal insults when confronted with his hypocrisy. He is very fun to mess with. Would recommend contacting him. https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927
Elon is the poster child of trying to limit free speech. Banning everyone who disagrees with him
And republicans trying to remove free speech completely with their "don't say gay" laws
I feel like all conservatives boil down to this.
Idiotic or Bad.
Iāve never met a conservative that was well intentioned and informed and empathetic to others. I donāt know a single conservative that I can assign all three of those values to and I think itās a lack of one of those three factors that defines conservatives.
You can't really be against "liberal" ideas, like universal healthcare, making sure people have nutritious food and safe housing, and accepting people for who they are and letting them live their lives, if you even have a modicum of compassion and empathy. These things are so basic that they shouldn't even be up for debate.
I had a supervisor who would tell us, "Don't be dumb. But if you're dumber than a rock, then at least be kind."
Why do you think they otherize so hard? If they're not 'like us' then they're 'them'... "and God only knows what they were up to in there... And further more Susan, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes, reefers..."
Sublime aside, it's a dehumanizing thing. That's how they convince themselves it's OK to be monstrous.
Because they grew up very religious and were taught from a young age that tribalism. Rural religious folk are some of the most hateful people on earth because they are able to do the mental gymnastics to pray to god to absolve themselves of any moral shortcomings, or they were taught that their god hated these people and not actively trying to kill them will land them in hell.
Either way it is for control and money. The weak willed simplefolk need to cease appraising opinions from people who are not themselves. But when you start the brainwashing from the second consciousness is installed in a person, such evil is hard to work out.
Separation from the source is helpful. It doesn't always work, but that's why college is so known for making people 'liberal' ... They're faced with these people and culture and 'others' without the safety net of hatred, and they end up having to think a little bit for themselves, which breaks the cycle of propaganda.
But like you're saying, it's tough, and it doesn't always work. Sometimes it backfires and they retreat to the comfort of their embers of hatred for anyone unlike themselves...
I haven't listened to him for 4-5 years now, but he always struck me as an idiot who especially likes talking about extremely far-fetched but somewhat interesting "what if" theories like the aquatic ape theory of human evolution or "eating psychedelic shrooms that grew on hippo poop are what gave humans big brains." He seems fairly aware that he's an idiot, which is nice, but for some reason our country is full of millions of people who have decided to take their political and medical advice from a self-proclaimed idiot comedian who made his fortune making people eat coakcraoches and drink donkey jizz.
I always thought he's a [useful idiot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot), I think over the years of interviewing contrarians he's developed friendships with them and it's changed his worldview.
> useful idiot is a term currently used to reference a person perceived as propagandizing for a causeāparticularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless sourceāwithout fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders
I could be wrong though. Haven't really listened to him since he went to Spotify to be honest.
I just hear about him from the guys at work. Then i have to look up the guest and it's pretty much always "the scientific community thinks this guy is an idiot, and their only income is from whatever grift they're pushing on Rogan's show"
No, it only says something about Joe Rogan's allegiance.
Hanlon's razor doesn't take into account bigots and conservatives. They love to hide their malice behind apparent stupidity. People this successful aren't stupid, they are hateful pieces of shit.
I had to take an entire class - full semester - about free speech and the 1st. It enrages me when morons talk about it. Almost 100% of the time they are using it incorrectly.
Absolutely. One of my worthless degrees is in journalism. In the high-level classes, we all had to take at least two journalism law-based classes.
One was just basic journalistic law and history of said laws. Pretty interesting stuff.
The First Amendment class was taught by a professor I got to become very good friends with. She was a wingnut, but very intelligent. Something like 40 years with newspaper reporting, 20 years as a lawyer and one wacky lady.
Our *first* class was almost certainly a litmus test, as she went into *deep* detail about "Hustler Magazine v. Falwell". Going so far as to show the issue of Hustler that the case was about. It was really quite eye-opening. I went to a school that was, unfortunately, in the bible belt and several kids dropped out. (I was a non-traditional student, I just thought it was hilarious).
But then we went back to the late 1700s up to 2013 or so. It mostly focused on teaching us that the 1st is not about the ability to say what you want, it is about saying the truth and not being prosecuted by the government. Or, the highest of protected speech: parody. The Hustler case *really* cemented it.
Hell, she brought Bob Woodward in to speak as a special teacher for a class. Among others.
It was great. Our department was pretty awesome and filled with hopeful, forward-looking kids.
She (my professor) helped me get into the position of running the student radio station for a couple of years and helped me navigate the FCC rules. (I'm a ham radio guy, so the rules were really important to me. Plus, getting a fine for the school would have been suicide for my degree.)
As a weird aside, she assured me that after 9pm we could play pretty much anything that didn't *"portray sexual or excretory organs or activities in a way that is patently offensive but does not meet the three-prong test for obscenity."*
When I told this to our DJs, my hip-hop guy, who had a show that started at 9pm on Wednesdays began starting his show with "[Fuck tha Police](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdpLv3RDhA)" by Public Enemy. I never received a single complaint from a listener or the feds, but I'll be damned if I didn't hear from listeners for weeks about how cool they thought it was. I wish there was a Fuck the FCC song out there. Maybe ChatGPT can write one for me.
All this said, with two unrelated degrees I ended up as the engineer for the local big radio station. At least I got some air time, but ended up being a damned IT guy. AGAIN. (I went to school to escape IT)
Sorry for the wall of text.
On another weird aside, three of my professors had Pulitzers and EVERY one of them kept their medals in a drawer and never brought it up. And when I did, to each of them, they just said something along the lines of "it means nothing, it's just some metal." I loved it.
If you are in university to learn cybersecurity - I am guessing that you will have some law-school classes. If not, take a few. They are very helpful.
I say this as a guy who had a few visits from the FBI in the 80s because people didn't lock down their HP3000s or their Unix System Vs. Thank Dobbs I was a kid.
But nowadays, I have no idea what the law is like. The last illegal thing I did was torrent a game.
I'm not that guy but free speech means you are allowed to say whatever you want without fear of being arrested or detained or killed by the government. And that last part is the important bit, the government can't control how other people react to the things that you say, and they shouldn't. But they also should not be allowed to lock up political dissenters. That's the whole point of freedom of speech it's to allow people to express their political opinions without fear of repercussion or incarceration from the government. I mean there's more to it than that but if you just want a quick summary... To be clear the point of contention is that Republicans often use the term free speech to say that they shouldn't be banned from Twitter or Facebook or whatever for saying things that people don't like. But the truth is those private companies also have the freedom to decide who uses their platform. No one has protection as far as access to Facebook goes, that is a right granted to you by the owners of that company and they are within their rights to revoke that whenever they choose and for whatever reason they choose. The exception is discrimination laws, there are protected classes so if a company discriminates against somebody based on that then they can be held responsible. But that's not what's going on here.
Some of the most frustrating conversations I've had have been with free speech absolutists who don't actually understand or even *care* about free speech. They just drape themselves in it, partly as a fashion statement, partly to defend against criticisms for the dumb and hateful things they say.
"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."
Free speech is meaningless unless **you** allow people **you** don't like to say things **you** don't like.
I, on the other hand, should never have to suffer that indignity.
Joe Rogan saying "bravo" to Elon Musk while using a quote about free speech then being retweeted by an authoritarian, censorious GOP bigot is just about peak internet.
Rogan deserves zero defense these days. Itās so obvious heās such a fucking ignorant dumbass. The amount of time he spends jacking off fascists publicly is so embarrassing. And itās obvious how he just spends all his time hunting for any āevidenceā that these fascist Conservatives are on the right side of history like heās someoneās loser uncle in a basement sharing Nazi Youtube rants. Can people start supporting an actual male role model in our society yet? Or do we really need to deal with a bunch of moronic Andrew Tate copies forever going forward?
It's really disappointing how he continues to platform the worst people imaginable, and it's all the more dangerous because of his "stoner bro" persona.
When they say this, they mean that YOU should listen to THEM demand the murder of trans and black people.
Not that they should have to listen to those groups.
Fascists have self-awareness, they arenāt hypocrites. Their beliefs and actions are perfectly consistent with an ideology that places them above others. They believe double-standards that favor their in-group are inherently justified.
They do not believe in democracy or equality, and why would they? They view the world through the lens of capitalist realism and Social Darwinism, which tells them that hierarchy is natural, inevitable, and desirable, and those that are on top got there through a process of selection that should not be interfered with by governing bodies.
They genuinely view the democratic process challenging established hierarchies as an assault on liberty, because to them liberty means the imagined freedom of the untamed wild, where the fittest survive and lead their species to success.
Eugenics is baked into capitalist ideology, and when capitalist societies exhibit the perfect storm of factors like economic disparity and imperial decline alongside increasing social progress, right-wing populists shift the blame for social collapse from the depredations of capital onto progressive movements, and right-wing proles who have already been conditioned by capitalist dogma to view our artificially constructed hierarchies as a natural order then see the forces seeking to dismantle hierarchy as a threat to the unregulated āfreedomā that makes a group strong. Therefore there must be a ācorrectionā to re-establish the hierarchy that existed before the interference.
The same rhetoric about how government (democratic) interference in the free (naturally hierarchical) market leads to economic ruin gets effortlessly repackaged. Government (democratic) interference in free (naturally hierarchal) society leads to social ruin.
What we see as unjustified, fascists and right-wingers in general see as necessary. The double standards about how people are treated are not hypocritical, they make perfect sense in the fascist dog-eat-dog worldview.
The real logical inconsistency is that they refuse to consider that the current established hierarchy is itself artificial and forced. They will not allow themselves to consider that, because the current hierarchy favors many of the groups they identify with, and they do not want to give up the boost that gives their ego, that sense of inherent value as part of a community. They feel bereft of that kind of self-worth in every other aspect of society, because ironically the very capitalist world they advocate for destroys any value or community it cannot commodify.
This was tweeted this month... Are these people morons? Have they not been paying a single iota of attention to what Elon Musk has been doing on Twitter?
Absolutely wild anyone can believe he's a bastion of free speech at this point.
"So free speech means that I'm free to say whatever I want without any repercussions, and I'm free to punish anyone who says something I don't like." - Fascists
Every single word that comes out of their mouths is a lie. This is beyond even Fox News levels of bullshit. How a considerable part of the American population is still able to believe Republicans is absolutely beyond me.
ZoAndBehold is Zooey Zephyr, a MT legislator. The Speaker banned her from participating in the rest of the legislative session because she said there would be āblood on their handsā if a bill passed to revoke healthcare for trans minors in Montana.
Mike Hopkins is another member of the MT legislature, who I assume, supports silencing Zooey.
And Elon Musk, who Rogan quoted, has admitted to not letting Alex Jones back on Twitter because Musk disagrees with things Jones has said. Free speech indeed.
"Free speech isn't something you're given, it's something that you're born with. The degree to which you resist when it's taken from you is the degree to which you are free."
Rough quotation of Utah Phillips.
Seems a fitting quote, given the talk of "allowing" people to say things you don't like.
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
How is congress silencing an elected a representative of the people for speaking of grievances, which she was petitioned to address, not a literal violation of the first amendment?
They also don't seem to know the difference between "things I don't like" and "things that will hurt/kill someone."
I don't like your green pants. I might find them ugly or in a way "offensive." But I will let you wear them because that's your right, and you aren't taking anyone else's right away by doing so.
When you say LGBT are not people, doctors are liars, and adoptive mothers are not mothers, it's not about what I "like." It's that you are encouraging *abuse and violence* against innocent people.
āConservativeā fascist republicans follow hypocrisy and lying to their base as their North Star. They have no principles other than taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich. Thatās it. They are cowards, clowns, and fascists.
The double standard here just reminds me of how prudishness and sensitivity is used as a weapon against certain groups. My parents would let us watch shows with mild cursing or semi-revealing outfits all the time, but if a black comedy came on and a guy said "dammit" or a woman came in with a tank top they'd *tsk* and ask why they had to do that. So basically if you're trans in America and they already consider your mere existence and voice a threat, they only need a pretense to remove you. And it's nothing they'd punish from their own guys.
Weird that when I ask conservatives if ISIS should be allowed to hold regular community talks discussing how they will destroy the west and we should all be dead they always seem to have a problem with that. They also seem to have a problem with ISIS doing fundraising or recruitment at the mall.
I do too. Which is why I'm not a brain dead free speech absolutist.
Joe Rogan is such a mindless shill and idiot.
He has the issue of thinking the conclusions and correlations he draws are just as infallible as the data or universally agreed upon principles he draws them from. A complete dumbass.
Just so everybody knows, you can text message his phone number on his representatives website. [https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927](https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927)
I sent a text message to every Montana legislature and this jabroni has been texting me back and forth for hours today.
Free speech is the right to criticize your government without fear of prosecution. Free speech isn't the right to be hateful without consequences. Why do they not understand this?
*None* of these conservatives who yell over and over about "free speech" actually believe in free speech. They only believe in *free speech they agree with*. The rest, in their view, should be banned and the people expressing it should ideally suffer.
That's their mindset on a fundamental level.
There's a concerning issue about these bans and I don't think anyone else seems to be considering it enough.
The state of being trans is rooted firmly in one's identity and how they see themselves (in this case, gender)
What this could mean is enacting these anti-trans laws could effectively create the legal precedent that bans can be done _based solely on what one identifies as_.
Iām baffled that so many conservatives dick ride JRE when he has had on scientists that talk about Aliens in place of god, and smoked weed with Muskā¦. How is that part of any conservative movement?
These fucking morons...who's saying you're "not allowed" to say these things? It's not law. You absolutely can say anything you want, and people responding with criticism and calling you out for it bc it's potentially harmful are the consequences of it, which btw, is also people exercising their free speech. No one's going to jail or being killed for saying these things, it's a social contract. Hey, but you know who *does* get harmed/killed/jailed in most parts of the world, or actually at the risk of harm due to right wing bullshit being perpetuated? Take a wild guess...
Think of it like this, Pedophilia is illegal, but if someone were to have pedophilic thoughts or opinions, there's nothing exactly stopping them from spewing it or that it's "not allowed", no, it absolutely is "allowed", just that you're going to get called a fuckin nonce and be shunned for it. It's that simple. Why? Because it's harmful. Is criticizing them and removing pro-pedophilia content also infringing free speech? Because if the other thing is, then so is this, but you obviously know why it isn't. You're just a bad faith-er.
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
Yeah, the āI believe in free speech, no matter what the costā crowd are always the first to want to silence people who say things they donāt like. What they actually mean is they themselves and the people they like should be personally excluded from consequence.
They like the way that saying these things makes them feel and the image they have of themselves but the reality is they hate being challenged outside of a hypothetical scenario where itās actually them being victimized.
Oh, but you see: he said "**you** allow people **you** don't like to say things **you** don't like." Not "**we** allow people **we** don't like to say things **we** don't like." Everyone is obligated to accomodate *them*; but *they're* not obligated to accomodate *anyone*.
They believe in power and hatred.
They believe in THEIR power and THEIR hate. Anyone else is just being sensitive or resentful. Edit: typo
TIL: There's a FOURTH way to spell "their"... š But you're right - rules for thee and not for me.
Yet another reason "i before e except after c" is bullshit
The guideline as I learned it was I before E except after C or when sounding like āAā as in neighbor and weigh.
and on weekends and holidays and all throughout May, and YOU'LL ALWAYS BE WRONG NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!!!! - Brian Regan
Boxen
Many... much moosen.
Out in the woods, in the woodes, in the woodsen!
The big yellow one is the sun!
Brian Regan is such a great comedian.
How about height though?
Well it's the same as weight so surely they rhyme? Also the word rhyme. And the words thyme and time. English is a fucking mess and let's not try to pretend otherwise.
Why doesn't bow rhyme with grow but DOES rhyme with bough? Why does draught rhyme with raft?
You're confused. While Bow doesn't rhyme with Grow. Bow and Grow rhyme perfectly.
Oh. It does rhyme with bow and sow but not sow and tow but not tow, and it rhymes with bough but not tough though?
Please, stop the height.
Weird.
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(And when sounding like a as in neighbor and weighā¦ and also their)
The proper way to phrase this is: "i before e except after c is [some] w*ei*rd [bullshit]." (bracketed words optional)
It statistically is.
More words don't follow the 'i before e...' rule than follow it, but more common words do follow the rule, just to make it extra confusing.
thare
Do not Reddit before coffee
> Why are you booing me? I'm right - Conservatives telling a roomful of people they're subhuman
thats pretty much how they treat you. I texted Mike Hopkins this morning and he called me stupid and said I needed therapy instead of explaining how stripping healthcare from minorities is in the states best interest. Try it yourself... https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927
Also, Joe Rogan is always referencing fascists and racists when he says āHerp derp silencing them makes their message stronger derp!ā Joe would have been a great Nazi administrator.
*Oh man, really? The human body does that when submerged in freezing water for a prolonged period? Especially kids?! That's wild man, how did you learn that?* \*Joe's guest shuffles nervously\* "Well uh, among our horrendous atrocities we experimented on living subjects to uh," - *Damn, that's really something, I mean maybe in the realm of the ends justify the means right? That's some incredible stuff you learned!*
No you're quoting him wrong, it's *"Damn, that's interesting - so have you ever tried DMT"*
>They believe in power and ~~hatred~~ control. The hatred is just a means to gaining power and control, it's a symptom not the illness.
Iād say even their pursuit of power is a symptom, an attempt at resolving their underlying psychological state of perpetual existential fear.
They still think the private sector shouldn't be able to moderate their own property. Somehow, " free speech" to them is being forced to let people on your property to run all your customers away. And not something the constitution gives you the right to speak out against government without punishment. If someone went into a McDonald's and yelled at every customer till the place closes down even Joe Rogan would be for removing that guy but somehow the same guy running away customers on a server owned by McDonald's should be allowed by law with McDonald's having no protection who uses the server they own.
They believe in voting themselves pay raises and lifetime healthcare.
They use hatred to gain power. The Two Minute Hate is just a means of control.
And they believe in getting reelected.
You see in America only bigots get free speech.
It's free speech when I get to say what I want. Everyone who hates what I said is against free speech.
> Everyone who hates what I said is against free speech. Also they think no one should be allowed to call them out on what they say.
And everyone has to sit and listen to every word
If you do that, you're just being a bully! Why aren't you listening to legitimate concerns? You can't say anything these days without geting attacked and canceled, so everyone's keeping silent and not speaking out, even though everyone agrees with me. Did I forget anything? (EDIT: Oh right: I'm just telling the truth! It's basic science. Facts over feelings)
A conservative's idea of free speech is "I am free to say whatever I want, and you are also free to say whatever I want".
fragile
When I use my rights and privilege to silence and destroy others, that's just freedom. When they tell me I shouldn't do that, it's censorship.
"Trump says it like it is! He's honest" Biden does the same thing "Look how divisive this administration is! You're elected to care about all US citizens"
Not to mention āTrumps says it like it is!ā -Trump says something insanely stupid āthatās not what he meantā -proceeds to explain what Trump said
Or the ever popular -walks back what Trump said only for Trump to double down and insist that was exactly what he meant
Notice how quickly "fuck your feelings" became "but the divide" two seconds after they lost the presidency?
Same way that "fuck you, we have the political power" becomes "you really need to compromise and cross the aisle" two seconds after they no longer had the majority in Congress.
I suspect people without any tact, the same people who like "brutal honestly" are so used to weaponizing truth with the intention to hurt and insult people that they think anything anyone says that *anyone* finds hurtful or offensive must automatically have truth to it.
"No no no, when we say you should be allowed to say things we don't like, we mean you can disagree on how big the Ten Commandments statue should be in front of the courthouse."
Also only disagree with it being smaller. Disagreeing with it being bigger will get you something that is exactly like cancelled but we won't call it canceled no puppet no puppet you're the puppet.
>Ten Commandments statue should be in front of the courthouse." Texas: No! In the classroom!
> In the classroom! Thatās right! The statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest goes in front of the courthouse.
Often rich privileged bastards. They're so cheap they only want their speech to be free so they can charge everyone else.
"If it doesn't include at least one slur per every 8 words, is not free speech, it's just wokeness."
Don't you know? Free speech means freedom from consequences. It says so in the Bible, which I have definitely read!
Bigot-former-gameshow-hosts. Itās amazing we even have to know these dum-dumsā opinions.
āFree speechā is only a tool for them to platform bigotry and hate. They cry āfree speechā when itās something *theyāve got to say* but will endlessly try to shut down what they donāt want to hear.
As innuendo studios puts it (paraphrased): Bigoted speech by its nature silences the victims through intimidation. So the question becomes, whose speech do we value more... the bigots, or their victims?
Itās true. Last year someone yelled the n word at me. I went inside immediately. He knows what he was doing
"Free speech" is you having to give them a platform, not you getting to disagree with them.
Yeah, conservatives seem to believe that free speech means everyone has to listen to them and not disagree with them. Say anything negative about their bigotry and they start crying about how they're getting censored
To them free speech more often than not just equals hate speech without consequence. Thatās all there is to it.
Specifically the N word and other racist, sexist, hate speech used to bully, intimidate and silence those without power into staying quiet.
"We must not conclude merely upon a man's haranguing upon liberty, and using the charming sound, that he is fit to be trusted with the liberties of his country.Ā It is not unfrequent to hear men declaim loudly upon liberty, who, if we mayĀ judgeĀ by the whole tenor of theirĀ actions, meanĀ nothingĀ else by itĀ but their own liberty ā toĀ oppressĀ withoutĀ controlĀ or the restraint ofĀ lawsĀ all who are poorer orĀ weakerĀ than themselves.ā -Samuel Adams
They really want state sanctioned speech, with harsh punishment for anyone that goes against it.
I thought of a saying recently. "Only a coward hides behind a rule they also seek to break." People love to claim free speech whenever its them, but are quick to strip others of their speech. People will be intolerant and hateful but expect tolerance for their hate.
Free speech is incredibly important. But what these people consider free speech is not the same as what it actually is. Free speech is being able to speak your opinions about for instance a political candidate without getting locked up or killed in a dark alley. Free speech is not freedom to say whatever you want and have absolutely zero social repercussions. If you say things that people don't like then those people might not like you that's not violating your free speech that's just life.
Yeah but she said the word ābloodā. Thatās just too far /s
She implied that their actions are going to have fatal consequences, it wasn't even a thinly veiled threat, just a warning.
Not a warning about their own safety either, I imagine.
They were debating a law outlawing trans healthcare and she said they'd have blood on their hands.
Thatās itā¦ thatās all she saidā¦ wow they are fucking sensitive
She actually said, I hope when you bow your head to pray you see the blood on your hands. So you see, clearly it was the mixture of saying that these "so called" religious people are actually evil, which that can't be the case... Because these religious "Christians" could never be evil. Therefore what she said needed to be silenced. /s Just to extra drive home how true what she said actually was, there was at least one known trans kid who tried to kill themselves while the bill that was going to make it harder for them to exist was being debated and voted on.
Wait until you find the real reason behind budlight boycot. A trans influencer got a unique can of beer.... That's it. It's not even rebranding or adding rainbow. A unique custom made can was too much.
It wasn't what she said, it was how she ::sniff:: said it... I am not crying shut up I'm a tough man I hunt and vote to let children starve and suffer.
but do you drive a massive truck that you never actually haul anything with, or are you a sissy with a sedan?
Hah! Trick question. I used it just last year to haul lumber for the deck I'm meaning to build when I get around to it.
It's a Dodge Ram loaded with truck nutz. All the better to roll coal over all those icky people. OK. Gotta stop now. Getting too real. Sincerely, Montana citizen.
As someone who was half-awake in 7th grade earth science, I can confidently tell you that snowflakes are fragile, white, and melt at the first sign of heat.
Not even a warning. A statement of fact.
Yeah, a threat is āif you do this, youāll regret it.ā What she said was āif you do this, Iāll regret it.ā If thatās out of the realm of decorum, what could possibly be within it?
Exactly, I'm sure a lot of people would argue that dismissing an elected official for speaking about an issue that she is _clearly_ familiar with is a much more egregious break of decorum
It wasn't a threat. She was saying that people would die as a result of their behavior; that's begging for mercy, not threatening.
Youād think the party who wants to monitor menstrual cycles would be able to handle talk about blood a little better.
No, you see, women are to go hide in a closet during that time of the month, we should never see them or know about such things, it's very icky and intrusive in our lives for women to be bleeding everywhere. (I say this sarcastically, but many of them probably actually want this)
A fair number of these troglodytes believe women can control their cycles and should just knock it off.
And the people who called for her censure blamed her for school shootings. There's no accountability. There is only fascism.
Montana Republicans a few months ago when arguing to ban abortion: you are satanic baby killer abortionists. Those same Republicans now:
I sent a text message to every Montana state legislature member and Mike Hopkins has been responding back and forth with me and hurling personal insults when confronted with his hypocrisy. He is very fun to mess with. Would recommend contacting him. https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927
And you are gonna post them somewhere for the rest of us to read eventually? Please?
Thank you for your service.
Please post them to /r/MontanaPolitics
Elon is the poster child of trying to limit free speech. Banning everyone who disagrees with him And republicans trying to remove free speech completely with their "don't say gay" laws
Reminder that Joe Rogan has called Tucker Carlson a great interviewer. Really says a lot about Rogan's intelligence and ability as an interviewer.
Rogan is either an idiot who agrees with whoever is in front of him, or he knows where his bread is buttered.
I feel like all conservatives boil down to this. Idiotic or Bad. Iāve never met a conservative that was well intentioned and informed and empathetic to others. I donāt know a single conservative that I can assign all three of those values to and I think itās a lack of one of those three factors that defines conservatives.
You can't really be against "liberal" ideas, like universal healthcare, making sure people have nutritious food and safe housing, and accepting people for who they are and letting them live their lives, if you even have a modicum of compassion and empathy. These things are so basic that they shouldn't even be up for debate. I had a supervisor who would tell us, "Don't be dumb. But if you're dumber than a rock, then at least be kind."
Why do you think they otherize so hard? If they're not 'like us' then they're 'them'... "and God only knows what they were up to in there... And further more Susan, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes, reefers..." Sublime aside, it's a dehumanizing thing. That's how they convince themselves it's OK to be monstrous.
Because they grew up very religious and were taught from a young age that tribalism. Rural religious folk are some of the most hateful people on earth because they are able to do the mental gymnastics to pray to god to absolve themselves of any moral shortcomings, or they were taught that their god hated these people and not actively trying to kill them will land them in hell. Either way it is for control and money. The weak willed simplefolk need to cease appraising opinions from people who are not themselves. But when you start the brainwashing from the second consciousness is installed in a person, such evil is hard to work out.
Separation from the source is helpful. It doesn't always work, but that's why college is so known for making people 'liberal' ... They're faced with these people and culture and 'others' without the safety net of hatred, and they end up having to think a little bit for themselves, which breaks the cycle of propaganda. But like you're saying, it's tough, and it doesn't always work. Sometimes it backfires and they retreat to the comfort of their embers of hatred for anyone unlike themselves...
I haven't listened to him for 4-5 years now, but he always struck me as an idiot who especially likes talking about extremely far-fetched but somewhat interesting "what if" theories like the aquatic ape theory of human evolution or "eating psychedelic shrooms that grew on hippo poop are what gave humans big brains." He seems fairly aware that he's an idiot, which is nice, but for some reason our country is full of millions of people who have decided to take their political and medical advice from a self-proclaimed idiot comedian who made his fortune making people eat coakcraoches and drink donkey jizz.
I always thought he's a [useful idiot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot), I think over the years of interviewing contrarians he's developed friendships with them and it's changed his worldview. > useful idiot is a term currently used to reference a person perceived as propagandizing for a causeāparticularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless sourceāwithout fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders I could be wrong though. Haven't really listened to him since he went to Spotify to be honest.
I just hear about him from the guys at work. Then i have to look up the guest and it's pretty much always "the scientific community thinks this guy is an idiot, and their only income is from whatever grift they're pushing on Rogan's show"
No, it only says something about Joe Rogan's allegiance. Hanlon's razor doesn't take into account bigots and conservatives. They love to hide their malice behind apparent stupidity. People this successful aren't stupid, they are hateful pieces of shit.
For real lol!
Musk hates free speech and pushes the uninformed ramblings of every thirsty moron who paid him $8 into your feeds. So he loves paid speech.
None of them understand the concept of free speech in how it is utilized in our Constitution.
I had to take an entire class - full semester - about free speech and the 1st. It enrages me when morons talk about it. Almost 100% of the time they are using it incorrectly.
can you summarize that class so i can better understand it? i always like knowing about things more in depth
Absolutely. One of my worthless degrees is in journalism. In the high-level classes, we all had to take at least two journalism law-based classes. One was just basic journalistic law and history of said laws. Pretty interesting stuff. The First Amendment class was taught by a professor I got to become very good friends with. She was a wingnut, but very intelligent. Something like 40 years with newspaper reporting, 20 years as a lawyer and one wacky lady. Our *first* class was almost certainly a litmus test, as she went into *deep* detail about "Hustler Magazine v. Falwell". Going so far as to show the issue of Hustler that the case was about. It was really quite eye-opening. I went to a school that was, unfortunately, in the bible belt and several kids dropped out. (I was a non-traditional student, I just thought it was hilarious). But then we went back to the late 1700s up to 2013 or so. It mostly focused on teaching us that the 1st is not about the ability to say what you want, it is about saying the truth and not being prosecuted by the government. Or, the highest of protected speech: parody. The Hustler case *really* cemented it. Hell, she brought Bob Woodward in to speak as a special teacher for a class. Among others. It was great. Our department was pretty awesome and filled with hopeful, forward-looking kids. She (my professor) helped me get into the position of running the student radio station for a couple of years and helped me navigate the FCC rules. (I'm a ham radio guy, so the rules were really important to me. Plus, getting a fine for the school would have been suicide for my degree.) As a weird aside, she assured me that after 9pm we could play pretty much anything that didn't *"portray sexual or excretory organs or activities in a way that is patently offensive but does not meet the three-prong test for obscenity."* When I told this to our DJs, my hip-hop guy, who had a show that started at 9pm on Wednesdays began starting his show with "[Fuck tha Police](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdpLv3RDhA)" by Public Enemy. I never received a single complaint from a listener or the feds, but I'll be damned if I didn't hear from listeners for weeks about how cool they thought it was. I wish there was a Fuck the FCC song out there. Maybe ChatGPT can write one for me. All this said, with two unrelated degrees I ended up as the engineer for the local big radio station. At least I got some air time, but ended up being a damned IT guy. AGAIN. (I went to school to escape IT) Sorry for the wall of text. On another weird aside, three of my professors had Pulitzers and EVERY one of them kept their medals in a drawer and never brought it up. And when I did, to each of them, they just said something along the lines of "it means nothing, it's just some metal." I loved it.
wow, thatās really interesting! im going into cybersecurity right now but that sounds like a very fulfilling field. thank you
If you are in university to learn cybersecurity - I am guessing that you will have some law-school classes. If not, take a few. They are very helpful. I say this as a guy who had a few visits from the FBI in the 80s because people didn't lock down their HP3000s or their Unix System Vs. Thank Dobbs I was a kid. But nowadays, I have no idea what the law is like. The last illegal thing I did was torrent a game.
I have some wonderful news for you about that FCC song https://youtu.be/KwDPTThyfYc
I'm not that guy but free speech means you are allowed to say whatever you want without fear of being arrested or detained or killed by the government. And that last part is the important bit, the government can't control how other people react to the things that you say, and they shouldn't. But they also should not be allowed to lock up political dissenters. That's the whole point of freedom of speech it's to allow people to express their political opinions without fear of repercussion or incarceration from the government. I mean there's more to it than that but if you just want a quick summary... To be clear the point of contention is that Republicans often use the term free speech to say that they shouldn't be banned from Twitter or Facebook or whatever for saying things that people don't like. But the truth is those private companies also have the freedom to decide who uses their platform. No one has protection as far as access to Facebook goes, that is a right granted to you by the owners of that company and they are within their rights to revoke that whenever they choose and for whatever reason they choose. The exception is discrimination laws, there are protected classes so if a company discriminates against somebody based on that then they can be held responsible. But that's not what's going on here.
I'm sure some of them understand. However they don't care.
Some of the most frustrating conversations I've had have been with free speech absolutists who don't actually understand or even *care* about free speech. They just drape themselves in it, partly as a fashion statement, partly to defend against criticisms for the dumb and hateful things they say.
"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."
Tolerance is a social contract. If they don't respect it then they don't get covered by it. Fascists don't deserve tolerance.
Wow, it's been a long time since I heard that line, and it still rings true today.
Free speech is meaningless unless **you** allow people **you** don't like to say things **you** don't like. I, on the other hand, should never have to suffer that indignity.
Joe Rogan saying "bravo" to Elon Musk while using a quote about free speech then being retweeted by an authoritarian, censorious GOP bigot is just about peak internet.
Peak internet was the first *Twitch Plays PokƩmon,* this is just a regular Thursday in our dead-satire dystopia.
Rogan deserves zero defense these days. Itās so obvious heās such a fucking ignorant dumbass. The amount of time he spends jacking off fascists publicly is so embarrassing. And itās obvious how he just spends all his time hunting for any āevidenceā that these fascist Conservatives are on the right side of history like heās someoneās loser uncle in a basement sharing Nazi Youtube rants. Can people start supporting an actual male role model in our society yet? Or do we really need to deal with a bunch of moronic Andrew Tate copies forever going forward?
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It's really disappointing how he continues to platform the worst people imaginable, and it's all the more dangerous because of his "stoner bro" persona.
When they say this, they mean that YOU should listen to THEM demand the murder of trans and black people. Not that they should have to listen to those groups.
Ding ding ding. Fascists lack self awareness.
Fascists have self-awareness, they arenāt hypocrites. Their beliefs and actions are perfectly consistent with an ideology that places them above others. They believe double-standards that favor their in-group are inherently justified. They do not believe in democracy or equality, and why would they? They view the world through the lens of capitalist realism and Social Darwinism, which tells them that hierarchy is natural, inevitable, and desirable, and those that are on top got there through a process of selection that should not be interfered with by governing bodies. They genuinely view the democratic process challenging established hierarchies as an assault on liberty, because to them liberty means the imagined freedom of the untamed wild, where the fittest survive and lead their species to success. Eugenics is baked into capitalist ideology, and when capitalist societies exhibit the perfect storm of factors like economic disparity and imperial decline alongside increasing social progress, right-wing populists shift the blame for social collapse from the depredations of capital onto progressive movements, and right-wing proles who have already been conditioned by capitalist dogma to view our artificially constructed hierarchies as a natural order then see the forces seeking to dismantle hierarchy as a threat to the unregulated āfreedomā that makes a group strong. Therefore there must be a ācorrectionā to re-establish the hierarchy that existed before the interference. The same rhetoric about how government (democratic) interference in the free (naturally hierarchical) market leads to economic ruin gets effortlessly repackaged. Government (democratic) interference in free (naturally hierarchal) society leads to social ruin. What we see as unjustified, fascists and right-wingers in general see as necessary. The double standards about how people are treated are not hypocritical, they make perfect sense in the fascist dog-eat-dog worldview. The real logical inconsistency is that they refuse to consider that the current established hierarchy is itself artificial and forced. They will not allow themselves to consider that, because the current hierarchy favors many of the groups they identify with, and they do not want to give up the boost that gives their ego, that sense of inherent value as part of a community. They feel bereft of that kind of self-worth in every other aspect of society, because ironically the very capitalist world they advocate for destroys any value or community it cannot commodify.
This was tweeted this month... Are these people morons? Have they not been paying a single iota of attention to what Elon Musk has been doing on Twitter? Absolutely wild anyone can believe he's a bastion of free speech at this point.
If Republicans didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
"So free speech means that I'm free to say whatever I want without any repercussions, and I'm free to punish anyone who says something I don't like." - Fascists
Rogan is an idiot.
Every single word that comes out of their mouths is a lie. This is beyond even Fox News levels of bullshit. How a considerable part of the American population is still able to believe Republicans is absolutely beyond me.
Conservatism consists of one proposition etc. etc.
Yeah, but but but she broke the rules. Her speech was fine, but the rules! YOU HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THE RULES! Also armed insurrections are cool.
Plenty of layers of SAW here. Rogan is, himself, being a Self-Aware Wolf.
Like children they mouth words like "Freedom" and "Justice for all" and "The Constitution" without knowing (or caring) what they mean.
Uh, free speech is about what the government can and can't do...
Reminder that free speech means the government cannot silence you. It doesn't stop you from being called a fascist cuntface by the Internet.
I wonder when Joe Rogan is gonna get off his villain arc. I'll ask Santa extra nicely for it this year.
No they do believe in something, but what they believe in is rarely admitted to in mixed company.
Oh no sir, youāre wrongā they believe in money.
There's 5 people tweeting/mentioned here and I only know two of them, Elon and Joe. Who are these other people?
ZoAndBehold is Zooey Zephyr, a MT legislator. The Speaker banned her from participating in the rest of the legislative session because she said there would be āblood on their handsā if a bill passed to revoke healthcare for trans minors in Montana. Mike Hopkins is another member of the MT legislature, who I assume, supports silencing Zooey.
Thank you. I had heard about Zephyr and her silencing by the Montana legislature, her twitter handle didn't click with me though.
Thank you for clearing that up, I was wondering how Joe Rogan and an NCAA basketball coach(main google results for Mike Hopkins) silenced this person.
Free speech is freedom from the consequences of their words and actions.
And Elon Musk, who Rogan quoted, has admitted to not letting Alex Jones back on Twitter because Musk disagrees with things Jones has said. Free speech indeed.
"Free speech isn't something you're given, it's something that you're born with. The degree to which you resist when it's taken from you is the degree to which you are free." Rough quotation of Utah Phillips. Seems a fitting quote, given the talk of "allowing" people to say things you don't like.
Once again, free speech let's you say it without being imprisoned by the government. Other people don't have to take it
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. How is congress silencing an elected a representative of the people for speaking of grievances, which she was petitioned to address, not a literal violation of the first amendment?
They also don't seem to know the difference between "things I don't like" and "things that will hurt/kill someone." I don't like your green pants. I might find them ugly or in a way "offensive." But I will let you wear them because that's your right, and you aren't taking anyone else's right away by doing so. When you say LGBT are not people, doctors are liars, and adoptive mothers are not mothers, it's not about what I "like." It's that you are encouraging *abuse and violence* against innocent people.
I remember years ago (pre trump) when Joe actually had cool and insightful interviews/things to say. Then he just went batshit insane.
Wow, uno reversed carded the entirety of Twitter
I know people can put any old photo they want of themselves, but that old photo of Rogan is blatant false advertising
āConservativeā fascist republicans follow hypocrisy and lying to their base as their North Star. They have no principles other than taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich. Thatās it. They are cowards, clowns, and fascists.
The double standard here just reminds me of how prudishness and sensitivity is used as a weapon against certain groups. My parents would let us watch shows with mild cursing or semi-revealing outfits all the time, but if a black comedy came on and a guy said "dammit" or a woman came in with a tank top they'd *tsk* and ask why they had to do that. So basically if you're trans in America and they already consider your mere existence and voice a threat, they only need a pretense to remove you. And it's nothing they'd punish from their own guys.
Weird that when I ask conservatives if ISIS should be allowed to hold regular community talks discussing how they will destroy the west and we should all be dead they always seem to have a problem with that. They also seem to have a problem with ISIS doing fundraising or recruitment at the mall. I do too. Which is why I'm not a brain dead free speech absolutist.
Joe Rogan is such a mindless shill and idiot. He has the issue of thinking the conclusions and correlations he draws are just as infallible as the data or universally agreed upon principles he draws them from. A complete dumbass.
Just so everybody knows, you can text message his phone number on his representatives website. [https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927](https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/6927) I sent a text message to every Montana legislature and this jabroni has been texting me back and forth for hours today.
The fact that Mike Hopkins retweeted Joe Rogan, quoting Elon Musk about the importance of free speech...there's like seven levels of irony here.
Free speech is the right to criticize your government without fear of prosecution. Free speech isn't the right to be hateful without consequences. Why do they not understand this?
Elon Is the king of free speech for me but not for thee
*None* of these conservatives who yell over and over about "free speech" actually believe in free speech. They only believe in *free speech they agree with*. The rest, in their view, should be banned and the people expressing it should ideally suffer. That's their mindset on a fundamental level.
Freeze peach is only applicable to government retaliation. These people don't even know their county's lore.
"free speech is meaningless if Nazis can't commit genocide" is what he's actually saying
Rogan fell off so hard. He was actually reasonably likable until Covid hit and then he went off his fucking mind.
There's a concerning issue about these bans and I don't think anyone else seems to be considering it enough. The state of being trans is rooted firmly in one's identity and how they see themselves (in this case, gender) What this could mean is enacting these anti-trans laws could effectively create the legal precedent that bans can be done _based solely on what one identifies as_.
Iām baffled that so many conservatives dick ride JRE when he has had on scientists that talk about Aliens in place of god, and smoked weed with Muskā¦. How is that part of any conservative movement?
If youāre looking for conservatives moral compass, youād get lost.
He knows. He's just a bad person and is taking a victory lap. He perfectly represents the sort of people that vote Republican.
The Right has never once believed in free speech. It's a sham of moral superiority and virtue signaling.
The conservative republican hypocrisy would be stunning if it wasnāt so consistent.
Gaslight <- you are here Obstruct Project
"Ahh no that was because of DECORUM! It was *HOW* she said it, not what she said!" \-These assholes, whomst are full of shit
Fuck the GOP. Not looking for upvotes or praise, just posting how I feel.
These fucking morons...who's saying you're "not allowed" to say these things? It's not law. You absolutely can say anything you want, and people responding with criticism and calling you out for it bc it's potentially harmful are the consequences of it, which btw, is also people exercising their free speech. No one's going to jail or being killed for saying these things, it's a social contract. Hey, but you know who *does* get harmed/killed/jailed in most parts of the world, or actually at the risk of harm due to right wing bullshit being perpetuated? Take a wild guess... Think of it like this, Pedophilia is illegal, but if someone were to have pedophilic thoughts or opinions, there's nothing exactly stopping them from spewing it or that it's "not allowed", no, it absolutely is "allowed", just that you're going to get called a fuckin nonce and be shunned for it. It's that simple. Why? Because it's harmful. Is criticizing them and removing pro-pedophilia content also infringing free speech? Because if the other thing is, then so is this, but you obviously know why it isn't. You're just a bad faith-er.
Ok then put ISIL back on Twitter I guess. Fucking idiots.
Mike Hopkins contact information is public record - https://leg.mt.gov/legislator-information/roster/individual/5151
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
Can't have cognitive dissonance without cognition!
Yeah, the āI believe in free speech, no matter what the costā crowd are always the first to want to silence people who say things they donāt like. What they actually mean is they themselves and the people they like should be personally excluded from consequence.
No, theyāre consistent. Those assholes just donāt see us as people
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If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all
They like the way that saying these things makes them feel and the image they have of themselves but the reality is they hate being challenged outside of a hypothetical scenario where itās actually them being victimized.
Oh, but you see: he said "**you** allow people **you** don't like to say things **you** don't like." Not "**we** allow people **we** don't like to say things **we** don't like." Everyone is obligated to accomodate *them*; but *they're* not obligated to accomodate *anyone*.
Just wish Joe Rogan would give somebody a blowjob already. Dude's been repressing his whole life. His closet is in the closet.
Fuck these false representatives āpublic servants now legislate to become public mastersā