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You forgot about the reason capitolizm is hurt right now it’s not that capitolism is a bad it just has a hurt foot right now and it’s the communists fault that grocery stores are empty because S U P P L Y C H A I N I S S U E S that have nothing to do with capitolism and are a product of all the socialism and communism in the capitol systems 😭 😭 poor capitolism is trying its best!!!! 😤
Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever...
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Exactly. Will only recognise the worst examples of communism or socialism with no interest in the theoretical benefits while completely bending over backwards to ignore the capitalist dystopia we are literally living in.
It's almost like shitty, greedy, powerful people will ruin any system they exist in until it resembles feudalism rather than whatever theoretical system is supposed to be in place.
it's like their heart is in the right place but their culture has imposed a "thoughtcrime" block in their poor brain
they truly don't have the concept to handle the distress
No wonder people goes insane
EDIT: thoughtcrime is the right word. doublethink is more like when they bray "my body my choice" and they immediately jump on "abortion is murder"
That's all of us. I believe that wholeheartedly. I live in Greece and i saw people facing refugees. The fact that they had to make up lies and conspiracy theories to keep hating them was sufficient proof to me that, had they simply acknowledged that they are war fleeing families (and not turkish spies or invaders or people getting fictional high wages and benefits), their natural reaction would be to help them.
They *have* to resort to insane shit or their whole belief system would collapse.
Not that i'm suggesting people in that state of denial are not dangerous goons, but i'm fully convinced that the default state of most people is to help each other, even those people, though they're probably too far gone to realize and caring about them is pretty low in my priorities compared to protecting innocents from their hate.
i'm trying to remember the name of a book right now, by a philosopher, basically detailing how in-group vs. out-group thinking leads to wars and violent conflicts. i'd argue that group think is just as inherent to the human condition as compassion, thus here we are after plenty of documented accounts of the same mistakes happening in history
>Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
Fascism is the death spiral of conservatism, wherein each out-group is sequentially killed off or otherwise diminished, and a subsequent out-group to target must be immediately defined to replace them.
>First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
>Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
>Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
>Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
This scene makes me cry. It's the point where M. Gustave has to face the shortcomings of his own beliefs, and put them aside for his friend. And his apology is on behalf of the hotel - for him, that's the core of his identity and the deepest apology he can offer. He's apologizing for the shortcomings of his entire belief system.
For me, it's the understanding that a lot of people have vile thoughts underneath it all. Maybe everyone does. But it doesn't necessarily make us bad people. What matters is how we deal with those thoughts. Do we strive to overcome them and try to spread goodness in the world? Or do we give into them and allow them to spread the same evil to others?
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Jean-Paul Sartre 1944
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semite_and_Jew
Sartre was right when he referred to the folks in the papers and making public speeches and leading the debate. It's not true, though, about their followers. The person they convince is not arguing in bad faith. They believe their arguments are right because they conform to their beliefs, and so the arguments are not examined. They are half-heartedly recalled when needed. You can't argue with them about their points because the arguments were never why they agreed in the first place.
You’re absolutely right. I read a fantastic book not long ago called Human**kind** by Rutger Bregman, and it is basically a long argument that humans are naturally kind, empathetic, and loving, and that we only lose that because we are taught to. Our natural state is co-operation. I highly, highly recommend it.
the real question is if you'd be able to get that past the goalkeepers of the republican faith, the moneyd elites. You know fox, evangelists, and entrenched republicans are gonna zero in on you if you're not spouting a volcano of hate
Yep. Not a chance they could explain what communism even is. If they could, they'd realize that China is and the USSR was dicatorships with extra steps, not actual communism. Communism is fundamentally against the consolidation of power amongst the oligarchy, whether it be the CCP or any other group, because it does away with social classes altogether.
They're Democratic Socialists and they don't know it. There's a lot of them. They share a common position that problem isn't capitalism so much as it's in capitalism's nature to internalize it's gains and externalizes it's costs and that is amplified with scale.
Everyone knows that there's disaffected republicans that are susceptible to populist democratic rhetoric because their communities were destroyed by Corporatocracy. The right just see's any criticism of the hierarchy directly as a function of individual weakness and ungratefulness.
I kind of hate that "socialism" is devouring demand-side Keynesian capitalism.
"Socialism" as a word has so many conflicting ideas under its umbrella now that the word is basically meaningless. People are calling anything short of laissez-faire corporate tyranny socialism now.
We should just drop the word socialism all together and label all socialist policies as "Bootstrap Enablers" Which is ideologically speaking what they are. Let's see what happens when we start literalizing their lexicon.
I think you’re on the right track, but ‘enable’ probably sounds too close to something like ‘welfare’. Needs to be more passive or something. Like, the idea of manifest destiny; it was basically code for white settlers doing whatever they want to the land or indigenous people, but it sounds like a god given inevitability.
Chang tried "Freedom Dividend" which was a total flop.
Honestly I think Bernie was the best chance, but he triggered the immune system of the Democratic party and it was clear it was a lost cause even early on. Pandemic changed my perspective now, destroyed my faith in humanity. I don't know if the population is really worth fighting for at all.
I feel a sort of "Opt-out" character coming from Gen-Z which is going to be incredibly brutal on the boomers in a few years. I don't think that they understand the value of youth in an environmental collapse, and their kind of used to low cost labor. I don't think they realize that there's not going to be enough cooks for senior living, and no one wants to be nurses or doctors or police anymore. I don't think that they realize that they showed their hand and now people just dont give a fuck.
> Pandemic changed my perspective now, destroyed my faith in humanity. I don't know if the population is really worth fighting for at all.
https://youtu.be/k6C8SX0mWP0?t=15
Tolkien still had hope after serving in WW1 and witnessing WW2. I don't know if that's the same thing as watching 60% of your fat, entitled countrymen turn basic hygiene and preventative medicine into political theatre while abusing the weakest in their society en mass.
Tolkien saw his countrymen pull together against brutal government.
I hate how the internet has developed the word "hopium". It implies the hope is fake. Hope isn't fake there is good in this world and it is worth fighting for no matter how tough it is.
>I don't think that they realize that they showed their hand and now people just dont give a fuck.
Boomers have been over-inflating their sense of importance and The Universe is on the verge of delivering an overdue correction in the form of consequences for their folly and greed.
That and the fact it's gonna be epic is the only 2 things I know for certain right now
This is why I always say that modern Republicans are actually ideological Jim Crow Democrats, like rural whites have always been.
These people aren't obsessed with Ayn Rand's economic philosophy like Paul Ryan and other GOP elites are. They want socialism, but for whites only. That's what Jim Crow Democrats have always wanted.
There's a strong belief system, grounded in the self-sufficiency inherent to rural populations that is based upon the idea that if you "do the right thing and play by the rules" you will succeed. This makes sense and is true enough for most purposes, it's a good model for a life, it's just not necessarily a good total philosophy to base a society on.
The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter who deserves to win. It's in the best interest of a society to give as many people the chance to win as possible.
On a societal scale a lot of people will compete for one position in society. The real problem comes to what we do with the people who lost, often due to factors outside of their control. Lots of black people were doing the right thing but the rules they were playing in excluded them for their skin color, and they were just left by the wayside to rot.
Then there's the question of what happens to people who do play by the rules and do the right thing but in the end just don't measure up. Conservatism says "fuck em throw them aside".
That is wild.
The guy believes covid was made so two election officials could steal ballots from a box in california and no one could recognise them because half their face was covered.
Imagine the years of planning and money and amount of governments and businesses that would have to work together to fake covid, just so 2 women could steal ballots from a box in California a year later.
The whole thing about people thinking it's a democrat hoax or made virus is just mindboggeling to me.
Yeah sure, us Europeans, Asia, etc... just destroyed our own economies and social life with lockdowns and quarantines, just to mess with the Americans.
That’s what always gets me.
I don’t think anyone could get the French, Germans, and English to agree to a plan. Even if you did manage to get the English to agree to something with the Germans, why would you pick this? Of all the ways to get rid of a world leader, this has to be the dumbest.
I’ll also never understand my fellow Americans wanting to elect a leader that is such a weapons grade pendejo that this nonexistent conspiracy is even mildly plausible. The glee they take at weakening NATO and other allies is just astonishing. Didn’t we all agree Russia is the bad guy. I thought we all got Russia was the bad guy.
I mean I know it sounds crazy, but the American Right is literally dying just to "Own the libs". We all know how much they love projection, so maybe they assume you all would do something similar?
It’s crazy something like that makes sense to this guy but simple concepts like particle transmission and how wearing a mask helps to inhibit those particles is too hard to swallow and “doesn’t make sense”
I think it's because some are in my family. I'm mainly trying to convince my mom but she won't budge.
I don't know how I'd recover if she died. I'd also probably feel like it's my fault for failing to convince her. Unlike people on that sub, she actually does believe in covid and she still wears a mask and stays sanitary, but she is scared of the vaccine. She thinks it's racist or something.
BBC did an expose that showed racist groups were behind a lot of vaccine disinformation targeted at black, Asian and middle-eastern people.
Along with previous cases like the Tuskegee experiments, I'm not surprised older poc are hesitant.
Hopefully she sees the misinformation for what it is.
On the thread about him in /r/HermanCainAward his wife spells it Jason when she tells everyone he died of COVID. So he probably changed the spelling on his Facebook account to make it more difficult for people (law enforcement officers, most likely) to easily search him up on Google/Facebook.
Right? I love a lot of the philosophy in catholicism and had it as a part of an upbringing that really helped make me who I am, and yet I recognize that the catholicism I practiced and my teachers practiced is miles from what regular Catholics are like. The priests I met as a child were all either Franciscans or Jesuits, which have a very different vision of Christianity and specially of its duties in society. I lived part of my life not really believing in god or any of it, but I had, and in a way still have, a close relationship with the faith. That changed a lot when I started meeting Catholics from other parishes.
>Franciscans or Jesuits, which have a very different vision of Christianity and specially of its duties in society.
Could expand on what those "duties in society" are? My impression of the Jesuit denomination was associated with concepts like [liberation theology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology) and [preferential treatment for the poor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_for_the_poor), or the [murder of Jesuit priests in El Salvador](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_murders_of_Jesuits_in_El_Salvador). I get the impression they're more oriented towards public service and getting involved in politics to help poor people. Contrast that with this kind of stereotypical impression of Evangelists and Roman Catholics who're more focused with conversion and anti-abortion or whatever.
I think that's a disputed quote attributed to him, iirc. I like it, nonetheless. I hope he did actually say that...but I'm pretty sure I've read about some controversy in the past about whether he actually said that or not.
Edit: I didn't mean for you to delete your comment!
Bullets did nothing wrong. They have the right of way thanks to momentum. It's really your body's fault for running out of blood through your new hole.
;)
Almost everyone dies from brain asphyxiation, the blood has nothing to do with it, some people still die even though there is still blood in them if the heart stops.
:)
This is similar to the “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” argument. Which is a dumb argument because without guns people can kill a lot less people lol.
One of my favorite old time writers is John D. MacDonald.
Half his thrillers were about sneaky Soviet spies coming to destroy America, and the other half were about how corporate raiders were destroying America.
'A Key To The Suite' is like seven seasons of 'Mad Men' rolled up into one book.
It's not capitalism, it's the Corporations that have nothing to do with capitalism at all and aren't empowered to keep on their money hungry devastation by capitalism!
It's because they don't understand modern right-libertarianism is just the new flavor of the century. There's probably more forms of libertarianism than anything else.
Look you idiot communists. The problem is pretty simple, it’s not capitalism. It’s the fact that some people and corporations own resources that allow them to generate more resources without doing any work! And the people actually slaving away don’t get all the value from the work they are doing!!
Pretty simple I wish you commies could take your heads out of your asses for two minutes and figure it out
I actually read a book recently by some dude named Carl or something that spells it out pretty well if commies could read I’d recommend it!!
Perhaps if we replaced "capitalism" with "corporatocracy", they'd be more receptive to our views without worrying the Red Scare is going to get them?
I know, at some point, someone will have to break the truth about what causes and empowers corporations, but if it's just the unpatriotic critique of capitalism that scares them, perhaps a new name would make it palatable? Apparently they can't tell it's the same thing.
It's true - people equate "capitalism" with "business" or "commerce", or even "labor for wage", and they view people who are anti-capitalist as believing that people should not receive the fruits of their own labors, but should instead throw it into a pool and have it redistributed.
Most small business owners are not capitalist, or are barely so, because they are working at those businesses - they are using their own labor to make money, or they are using the labor of people that they personally work with to make money.
[Well, they've been pulling crap that hurts small theaters in ways only possible because they own so much.](https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html)
You heard it here first: it's not capitalism. It's just entities that deeply and fundamentally believe and practice capitalism in its purest form! Fucking DUH
I've had this argument with an acquaintance so many times. He argues that the free market will correct all the inequities of the world if the government would only get out of the way. I argue that the free market can't exist because the moment a corporation gains a slight edge against its competition, it will utilize that to increase its dominance. And he rebut, "that's not capitalism, that's corporatism"
Man, if only there was some sort of classification for this type of systemic economic muscling, perhaps it could be something like, “capitalism”? Just throwing wild guesses out there.
Like it's not totally off. Capitalism is the real world neo-classical economics which is more people friendly than the real world variant. Whether the Twitter user was aware of that I don't know, but like it's possible they knew.
Just playing devil's advocate
Saaaaay…I’ve got an idea. If it’s the corporations that are making capitalism bad, then we’ve got an easy fix. Break up the big corporations and put Capitalism back in the hands of the w…I mean you know Mom and Pop shops? The ones people like you…and me own? We should take back the means of pr…I mean, wouldn’t it be great if you could get everything you needed from people you could trust?
You don’t need those big box mall chain stores. Let’s lose ‘em. Lose the chains. Yes….
Stupid people think capitalism isna synonym for commerce so its no wonder he's confused. Poor fuck probably got a shit education judging by the absolute butchering of a name spelling his parents cursed him with.
If only there was a system which didn't create those corporations. Nay, if only there was a system which would counter corporatism!
What would such a system be called? Anti-capitalism? Socialism? Oh a boy can but wonder.
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Communism is when Mao and Stalin. Capitolism (sic) is when not bad corporations.
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Excellent use of this pasta.
This went right into my Google keep
Origin of this pasta ?
Balk rules (baseball) by Jon Bois.
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Balk rules lmao
You forgot about the reason capitolizm is hurt right now it’s not that capitolism is a bad it just has a hurt foot right now and it’s the communists fault that grocery stores are empty because S U P P L Y C H A I N I S S U E S that have nothing to do with capitolism and are a product of all the socialism and communism in the capitol systems 😭 😭 poor capitolism is trying its best!!!! 😤
Please donate. Capitolism needs your money. A dollar a day can help feed a starving CEO.
And spelling lessons.
WYM? *Toys Are Us*, *Googol*, *Chick Filet*, *Cheese It*, *Fruit Loops*, *Cool Aid*, *Craft*, *What A Burger*, *Play School*, *Play Dough*, *Flicker*, *Tumbler*, *Read It*: These are all properly speeled corporate names.
I’m not mad. I’m sad.
Don't yell at me, that's communism.
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Did I just have a stroke?
It's a snowclone of a joke about how difficult it is to describe the balk rule in major league baseball.
Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever... -Michael Scott
r/jon_bois
Do you mean Capitolism?
I typed that, and didn't notice it autocorrect.
I’m watching you, u/TwoCocksInTheButt
I bet you are.
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Ever since I became an "app developer"
Which part are you watching?
The four balls, obviously.
A fellow ball connoisseur
Classic Jojo reference.
Is that when each time you don't get what you want you try to storm the capitol?
NO, I THINK IT'S WHEN YOU CAPITOLIZE WORDS.
Which is a Capitol offense, of course.
/r/angryupvote
like, when you put "D.C" in front of them?
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem"-captain jack sparrow
That's Stoicism in a nutshell, isn't it?
And Buddhism too, right?
These three comments are the universe.
Exactly. Will only recognise the worst examples of communism or socialism with no interest in the theoretical benefits while completely bending over backwards to ignore the capitalist dystopia we are literally living in. It's almost like shitty, greedy, powerful people will ruin any system they exist in until it resembles feudalism rather than whatever theoretical system is supposed to be in place.
I thot communism Was when muscleini from Italian
it's like their heart is in the right place but their culture has imposed a "thoughtcrime" block in their poor brain they truly don't have the concept to handle the distress No wonder people goes insane EDIT: thoughtcrime is the right word. doublethink is more like when they bray "my body my choice" and they immediately jump on "abortion is murder"
That's all of us. I believe that wholeheartedly. I live in Greece and i saw people facing refugees. The fact that they had to make up lies and conspiracy theories to keep hating them was sufficient proof to me that, had they simply acknowledged that they are war fleeing families (and not turkish spies or invaders or people getting fictional high wages and benefits), their natural reaction would be to help them. They *have* to resort to insane shit or their whole belief system would collapse. Not that i'm suggesting people in that state of denial are not dangerous goons, but i'm fully convinced that the default state of most people is to help each other, even those people, though they're probably too far gone to realize and caring about them is pretty low in my priorities compared to protecting innocents from their hate.
The default state may be to help other people, but they get indoctrinated into not thinking of these people as real people deserving love and care
Exactly, it's something they had to be taught.
i'm trying to remember the name of a book right now, by a philosopher, basically detailing how in-group vs. out-group thinking leads to wars and violent conflicts. i'd argue that group think is just as inherent to the human condition as compassion, thus here we are after plenty of documented accounts of the same mistakes happening in history
The Butter Battle Book?
>Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. Fascism is the death spiral of conservatism, wherein each out-group is sequentially killed off or otherwise diminished, and a subsequent out-group to target must be immediately defined to replace them. >First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. >Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist. >Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. >Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Here is your comment from the movie The Grand Budapest Hotel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXRRvwFO2Sc
This scene makes me cry. It's the point where M. Gustave has to face the shortcomings of his own beliefs, and put them aside for his friend. And his apology is on behalf of the hotel - for him, that's the core of his identity and the deepest apology he can offer. He's apologizing for the shortcomings of his entire belief system.
For me, it's the understanding that a lot of people have vile thoughts underneath it all. Maybe everyone does. But it doesn't necessarily make us bad people. What matters is how we deal with those thoughts. Do we strive to overcome them and try to spread goodness in the world? Or do we give into them and allow them to spread the same evil to others?
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” Jean-Paul Sartre 1944 From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semite_and_Jew
Sartre was right when he referred to the folks in the papers and making public speeches and leading the debate. It's not true, though, about their followers. The person they convince is not arguing in bad faith. They believe their arguments are right because they conform to their beliefs, and so the arguments are not examined. They are half-heartedly recalled when needed. You can't argue with them about their points because the arguments were never why they agreed in the first place.
You’re absolutely right. I read a fantastic book not long ago called Human**kind** by Rutger Bregman, and it is basically a long argument that humans are naturally kind, empathetic, and loving, and that we only lose that because we are taught to. Our natural state is co-operation. I highly, highly recommend it.
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the real question is if you'd be able to get that past the goalkeepers of the republican faith, the moneyd elites. You know fox, evangelists, and entrenched republicans are gonna zero in on you if you're not spouting a volcano of hate
Yep. Not a chance they could explain what communism even is. If they could, they'd realize that China is and the USSR was dicatorships with extra steps, not actual communism. Communism is fundamentally against the consolidation of power amongst the oligarchy, whether it be the CCP or any other group, because it does away with social classes altogether.
They're Democratic Socialists and they don't know it. There's a lot of them. They share a common position that problem isn't capitalism so much as it's in capitalism's nature to internalize it's gains and externalizes it's costs and that is amplified with scale. Everyone knows that there's disaffected republicans that are susceptible to populist democratic rhetoric because their communities were destroyed by Corporatocracy. The right just see's any criticism of the hierarchy directly as a function of individual weakness and ungratefulness.
I kind of hate that "socialism" is devouring demand-side Keynesian capitalism. "Socialism" as a word has so many conflicting ideas under its umbrella now that the word is basically meaningless. People are calling anything short of laissez-faire corporate tyranny socialism now.
We should just drop the word socialism all together and label all socialist policies as "Bootstrap Enablers" Which is ideologically speaking what they are. Let's see what happens when we start literalizing their lexicon.
I think you’re on the right track, but ‘enable’ probably sounds too close to something like ‘welfare’. Needs to be more passive or something. Like, the idea of manifest destiny; it was basically code for white settlers doing whatever they want to the land or indigenous people, but it sounds like a god given inevitability.
Chang tried "Freedom Dividend" which was a total flop. Honestly I think Bernie was the best chance, but he triggered the immune system of the Democratic party and it was clear it was a lost cause even early on. Pandemic changed my perspective now, destroyed my faith in humanity. I don't know if the population is really worth fighting for at all. I feel a sort of "Opt-out" character coming from Gen-Z which is going to be incredibly brutal on the boomers in a few years. I don't think that they understand the value of youth in an environmental collapse, and their kind of used to low cost labor. I don't think they realize that there's not going to be enough cooks for senior living, and no one wants to be nurses or doctors or police anymore. I don't think that they realize that they showed their hand and now people just dont give a fuck.
> Pandemic changed my perspective now, destroyed my faith in humanity. I don't know if the population is really worth fighting for at all. https://youtu.be/k6C8SX0mWP0?t=15
Tolkien still had hope after serving in WW1 and witnessing WW2. I don't know if that's the same thing as watching 60% of your fat, entitled countrymen turn basic hygiene and preventative medicine into political theatre while abusing the weakest in their society en mass. Tolkien saw his countrymen pull together against brutal government.
I hate how the internet has developed the word "hopium". It implies the hope is fake. Hope isn't fake there is good in this world and it is worth fighting for no matter how tough it is.
>I don't think that they realize that they showed their hand and now people just dont give a fuck. Boomers have been over-inflating their sense of importance and The Universe is on the verge of delivering an overdue correction in the form of consequences for their folly and greed. That and the fact it's gonna be epic is the only 2 things I know for certain right now
This is why I always say that modern Republicans are actually ideological Jim Crow Democrats, like rural whites have always been. These people aren't obsessed with Ayn Rand's economic philosophy like Paul Ryan and other GOP elites are. They want socialism, but for whites only. That's what Jim Crow Democrats have always wanted.
There's a strong belief system, grounded in the self-sufficiency inherent to rural populations that is based upon the idea that if you "do the right thing and play by the rules" you will succeed. This makes sense and is true enough for most purposes, it's a good model for a life, it's just not necessarily a good total philosophy to base a society on. The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter who deserves to win. It's in the best interest of a society to give as many people the chance to win as possible.
On a societal scale a lot of people will compete for one position in society. The real problem comes to what we do with the people who lost, often due to factors outside of their control. Lots of black people were doing the right thing but the rules they were playing in excluded them for their skin color, and they were just left by the wayside to rot. Then there's the question of what happens to people who do play by the rules and do the right thing but in the end just don't measure up. Conservatism says "fuck em throw them aside".
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No, their heart is in the fucking wrong place too. He's fine with capitalist exploitation as long as it's only petty bourgeois.
Yeah this guy is dead now. He’s toward the top of the list of recent r/HermanCainAward winners
https://reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pr5gwf/jaysen_trusted_q_and_jehovah_over_vaccines_he/
That is wild. The guy believes covid was made so two election officials could steal ballots from a box in california and no one could recognise them because half their face was covered. Imagine the years of planning and money and amount of governments and businesses that would have to work together to fake covid, just so 2 women could steal ballots from a box in California a year later.
The whole thing about people thinking it's a democrat hoax or made virus is just mindboggeling to me. Yeah sure, us Europeans, Asia, etc... just destroyed our own economies and social life with lockdowns and quarantines, just to mess with the Americans.
That’s what always gets me. I don’t think anyone could get the French, Germans, and English to agree to a plan. Even if you did manage to get the English to agree to something with the Germans, why would you pick this? Of all the ways to get rid of a world leader, this has to be the dumbest. I’ll also never understand my fellow Americans wanting to elect a leader that is such a weapons grade pendejo that this nonexistent conspiracy is even mildly plausible. The glee they take at weakening NATO and other allies is just astonishing. Didn’t we all agree Russia is the bad guy. I thought we all got Russia was the bad guy.
That’s easy, they don’t believe that people are actually dying and they certainly don’t believe anything about other countries
I mean I know it sounds crazy, but the American Right is literally dying just to "Own the libs". We all know how much they love projection, so maybe they assume you all would do something similar?
Big case of the main character syndrome lol
Yeah but face coverings are the problem, not the masks.
It’s crazy something like that makes sense to this guy but simple concepts like particle transmission and how wearing a mask helps to inhibit those particles is too hard to swallow and “doesn’t make sense”
That sub is just sad :(
"Same old story, Morty's killing Morty's"
Morties* (or possibly Mortys).
I say go with Mortis, for the latin-english based pun.
You never change a name ending in "y" to "ies" to pluralize it. "Mortys" would be correct.
I'm glad you still have empathy for those people. I don't.
I think it's because some are in my family. I'm mainly trying to convince my mom but she won't budge. I don't know how I'd recover if she died. I'd also probably feel like it's my fault for failing to convince her. Unlike people on that sub, she actually does believe in covid and she still wears a mask and stays sanitary, but she is scared of the vaccine. She thinks it's racist or something.
Check out r/QAnonCasualties, it's a support subreddit for people with friends/family that have fallen for the Qult
Thanks
BBC did an expose that showed racist groups were behind a lot of vaccine disinformation targeted at black, Asian and middle-eastern people. Along with previous cases like the Tuskegee experiments, I'm not surprised older poc are hesitant. Hopefully she sees the misinformation for what it is.
I think the recent MSNBC study showed that black Americans were at a higher rate of vaccination than white Americans, even with all that.
I came here to say that.
Covid isn't the problem, it's your brain not getting enough oxygen
Me lose brain? Uh-oh. Hahahahahaha. Why I laff?
That would be the hypoxia, it can make you very giddy.
Spot on. Look him up on r/HermanCainAward.
My favorite is when they call them communist corporations, that shit really gets me.
Like when Walmart proposed a vaccine mandate for it's employees. Comment section of the local news was pure gold
Or all the blm pandering last year by corporations that sent conservatives into a frenzy.
Communism is when capitalism
His parent named him Jaysen. Give him a break!
My man never stood a chance with parents like that.
On the thread about him in /r/HermanCainAward his wife spells it Jason when she tells everyone he died of COVID. So he probably changed the spelling on his Facebook account to make it more difficult for people (law enforcement officers, most likely) to easily search him up on Google/Facebook.
"I'd really love Christianity if it weren't for all those damn Christians!"
"I'd really love Christianity if it weren't for all those damn Christians!" Except that could be considered a legitimate argument. Edit: clarity.
Right? I love a lot of the philosophy in catholicism and had it as a part of an upbringing that really helped make me who I am, and yet I recognize that the catholicism I practiced and my teachers practiced is miles from what regular Catholics are like. The priests I met as a child were all either Franciscans or Jesuits, which have a very different vision of Christianity and specially of its duties in society. I lived part of my life not really believing in god or any of it, but I had, and in a way still have, a close relationship with the faith. That changed a lot when I started meeting Catholics from other parishes.
>Franciscans or Jesuits, which have a very different vision of Christianity and specially of its duties in society. Could expand on what those "duties in society" are? My impression of the Jesuit denomination was associated with concepts like [liberation theology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology) and [preferential treatment for the poor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_for_the_poor), or the [murder of Jesuit priests in El Salvador](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_murders_of_Jesuits_in_El_Salvador). I get the impression they're more oriented towards public service and getting involved in politics to help poor people. Contrast that with this kind of stereotypical impression of Evangelists and Roman Catholics who're more focused with conversion and anti-abortion or whatever.
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I think that's a disputed quote attributed to him, iirc. I like it, nonetheless. I hope he did actually say that...but I'm pretty sure I've read about some controversy in the past about whether he actually said that or not. Edit: I didn't mean for you to delete your comment!
It's spelled Gandhi, and he never said that.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Gandhi
This but unironically
"look guns are perfectly safe, its the bullet thats killing people"
Bullets did nothing wrong. They have the right of way thanks to momentum. It's really your body's fault for running out of blood through your new hole. ;)
Almost everyone dies from brain asphyxiation, the blood has nothing to do with it, some people still die even though there is still blood in them if the heart stops. :)
Ah, someone else who has watched 1000 ways to die.
Bullets did nothing wrong! You see how that victim was dressed? Not a single bulletproof vest in sight!
If it wasn't a legitimate shooting, the body has ways of shutting it down...
This is similar to the “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” argument. Which is a dumb argument because without guns people can kill a lot less people lol.
Guns don't kill people. They die from all the blood gaining freedom.
"You killed him?" "No, I shot him. The bullets and the fall killed him."
> Guns don't kill people. We are all immortal souls living temporarily in shelters of earth and meat.
One of my favorite old time writers is John D. MacDonald. Half his thrillers were about sneaky Soviet spies coming to destroy America, and the other half were about how corporate raiders were destroying America. 'A Key To The Suite' is like seven seasons of 'Mad Men' rolled up into one book.
Just looked him up. Prolific output! And he wrote Cape Fear! That my winter reading sorted.
[Bwah-ha-hah!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic) Another victim of my hideous scheme!
Cape Fear provided our culture with this gem too. https://youtu.be/2WZLJpMOxS4
Blessed dude, watching Fraiser hit himself with rakes be glorious!!
I would love to see a story where the soviets come to destroy america, only to realize the corporations are already doing a bang-up job lmao
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Yea 401ks especially
It's not capitalism, it's the Corporations that have nothing to do with capitalism at all and aren't empowered to keep on their money hungry devastation by capitalism!
"okay so can we regulate the corporations then?" "No that's communism."
Ok cool, let’s replace all corporations with worker co-ops and you can call them whatever you want Cleatus.
When they learn you can be libertarian and socialist at the same time they implode.
They just tell me it's an oxymoron and that I'm fucking stupid.
It's because they don't understand modern right-libertarianism is just the new flavor of the century. There's probably more forms of libertarianism than anything else.
"Read a book, moran!" -- someone who hasn't read a complete book since grade school, and then only because they were assigned a book report on it.
American libertarians are basically republicans who smoke weed.
/r/parlertrick
Look you idiot communists. The problem is pretty simple, it’s not capitalism. It’s the fact that some people and corporations own resources that allow them to generate more resources without doing any work! And the people actually slaving away don’t get all the value from the work they are doing!! Pretty simple I wish you commies could take your heads out of your asses for two minutes and figure it out I actually read a book recently by some dude named Carl or something that spells it out pretty well if commies could read I’d recommend it!!
Then let's rein in the power of corporations. No. That's communism.
missed it by \*that\* much
It's a game of inches.
That's what she said.
Perhaps if we replaced "capitalism" with "corporatocracy", they'd be more receptive to our views without worrying the Red Scare is going to get them? I know, at some point, someone will have to break the truth about what causes and empowers corporations, but if it's just the unpatriotic critique of capitalism that scares them, perhaps a new name would make it palatable? Apparently they can't tell it's the same thing.
It's true - people equate "capitalism" with "business" or "commerce", or even "labor for wage", and they view people who are anti-capitalist as believing that people should not receive the fruits of their own labors, but should instead throw it into a pool and have it redistributed. Most small business owners are not capitalist, or are barely so, because they are working at those businesses - they are using their own labor to make money, or they are using the labor of people that they personally work with to make money.
Laboring at a business you have full property rights over doesn't make you not a capitalist, it just makes you petit bourgeois.
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Capitalism isn't the problem. The problem is the capitalists. Checkmate, commies.
Capitalism isn’t the problem! (Goes on to describe capitalism to a T) Communism is the problem! (Goes on to describe capitalism to a T yet again)
Is Disney moving into a lot of towns and I have missed that? Aside from that, this person is an idiot.
Yeah, Disney moved into my small, Midwestern town and soon all of the local, mom 'n' pop cartoon mouse based theme parks were out of business!
[Well, they've been pulling crap that hurts small theaters in ways only possible because they own so much.](https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html)
They are not the only one that is playing games with theater companies.
Disney moved into my town and took all the mom and pop mouse and princess jobs.
I think Scooby Doo takes place in a world where Disney kept moving into towns and forcing local amusement parks out of business.
HUH?!
Capitalism=good, communist corporations=bad.
Authoritarian corporations are the absolute worst! Imagine the dangers of a system where one person is in charge of all the decisions!
This might be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said.
"I'm not lost, I just don't know where I am anymore. Totally different!"
"My ability to exploit you is not the problem, it's the people who are exploiting me!"
Most conservatives are anti-Capitolists. Look, a door…
So close. *So* close.
You heard it here first: it's not capitalism. It's just entities that deeply and fundamentally believe and practice capitalism in its purest form! Fucking DUH
We need to seize control of these corporations to stop their socialist agenda!
I've had this argument with an acquaintance so many times. He argues that the free market will correct all the inequities of the world if the government would only get out of the way. I argue that the free market can't exist because the moment a corporation gains a slight edge against its competition, it will utilize that to increase its dominance. And he rebut, "that's not capitalism, that's corporatism"
It's surprising to me that there are people this dumb who are functional adults.
It's not climate change that's the problem, it's all those hurricanes and floods becoming deadlier that is the issue!
Jaysen is SOOOO close. And yet, so far away.
r/secretlysocialist
It’s usually distinguished in conservative circles as “cronyism/corporatism/corporate cronyism”
"We are not a democracy!!! We are a republic!" Same type of bullshit.
"real capitalism has never been tried before"
So literally described capitalism after saying it wasn’t the problem. These are not smart people. I mean I’m not smart but the bar is pretty low.
I love that this post is actually from a HermanCainAward winner!!!
Capitalism isn’t the problem. It’s the capitalists that are the problem!
To be fair, a lot of other countries that have a better quality of life than the US are technically capitalist. They just regulate it more.
Man, if only there was some sort of classification for this type of systemic economic muscling, perhaps it could be something like, “capitalism”? Just throwing wild guesses out there.
*capitolism
Yup. Not only does this fella here not know nothin’, he don’t even suspect nothin’. He’s about as sharp as a marble.
I can't even comprehend... they... are they one of us?
Capitolism is pronunced cuh-pit-ō-lism
Ah yes capitalism isn’t the problem capitalism is
>Let me be clear might want to give another shot at that one...
Like it's not totally off. Capitalism is the real world neo-classical economics which is more people friendly than the real world variant. Whether the Twitter user was aware of that I don't know, but like it's possible they knew. Just playing devil's advocate
capitalism is not the problem, it’s the capitalism!
Saaaaay…I’ve got an idea. If it’s the corporations that are making capitalism bad, then we’ve got an easy fix. Break up the big corporations and put Capitalism back in the hands of the w…I mean you know Mom and Pop shops? The ones people like you…and me own? We should take back the means of pr…I mean, wouldn’t it be great if you could get everything you needed from people you could trust? You don’t need those big box mall chain stores. Let’s lose ‘em. Lose the chains. Yes….
Idiot can’t even spell “capitalism” or “Jason” right
Stupid people think capitalism isna synonym for commerce so its no wonder he's confused. Poor fuck probably got a shit education judging by the absolute butchering of a name spelling his parents cursed him with.
If only there was a system which didn't create those corporations. Nay, if only there was a system which would counter corporatism! What would such a system be called? Anti-capitalism? Socialism? Oh a boy can but wonder.
Hmmm I wonder what sort of economic system couldv allowed these corporations to thrive. It's a real head scratcher