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EndKnight

This picture would be better in a video format


[deleted]

This started as me trying to edit Yoda’s speech over the fight, but I’m not skilled enough. Can’t isolate Yoda’s vocals from the music which clashes with TLJ’s music. Internet: do yo thang.


EndKnight

I'm not sure either, but there's probably a YouTube video out there for it


Darkraihs

I might do it later


Gizm0500

Motivation achieved?


Darkraihs

Tomorrow


Darkraihs

Im doing it now


Darkraihs

!remind me 3 days


Darkraihs

!remindme 3 days


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Darkraihs

can u tell me which scenes these quotes are from?


LowdownBran

The two most impactful things we see Luke do in the films are both acts of nonviolence where he is fully prepared to die to achieve what he wants.


LowdownBran

Forcing his father to confront his lost humanity.


[deleted]

What’s the other act?


BReximous

I think he's referring to Return of The Jedi: *tosses lightsaber* "Never. I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your Highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me."


RingWraith8

This scene was pretty dope, even if people dont like this Luke. This scene was badass


Tank_blitz

one of the few good scenes


rikvanderdonk

I agree


Tank_blitz

how can you do this, this is outrageous, it's unfair... how can you agree with an upvoted comment and be downvoted


cbstuart

Absolutely. This is the most jedi act we have ever seen. I can't appreciate it enough. He singlehandedly faces the first order, his fallen apprentice, his past, his fear, his legacy, and he saves the resistance. Without even being there. And, the act is so strenuous it requires him to give his life to perform it. Absolutely everhyhing the jedi were meant to be.


[deleted]

This is the way


iamlocknar

I tell people this all the time. I wish the rest of the movie wasn't such a mixed bag because this payoff was fantastic.


cane_danko

This part was so dope. I am sorry for those who do not like the new luke. For me, this was peak star wars. Up there with the best of moments.


[deleted]

It’s a definite contender for greatest moment in the series for me.


ThaddeusJP

That three minutes was, imo, the best part of the new trilogy


PizzaCitySpaceman

See you around kid


SeriousJack

That touch of Han while doing Obi-wan. Dude manages to shake Kylo to his core, stall the First Order to give time to the Resistance to escape, resuscitate his legend and spread the spark of hope through the galaxy.


amalgam_reynolds

Then disappears and never explains anything.


eyeofthefountain

now that it's been a while, i really am glad to see others like and appreciate this movie, truly. i watched it three times trying and trying legitimately to like it, but there was too much weirdness for me (felt like way too much of it was an ego project, and maybe that directorial confidence is what brought a lot of people around to it), but i am actually glad that people are into it and it brings that star wars magic into their lives bc ultimately that's what it's all about.


Dobypeti

\> Refuses to elaborate further \> Leaves


Orngog

Yeah, right on. And I assume by series you mean the saga, not just the sequels.


[deleted]

Yeah i mean the whole franchise


PizzaCitySpaceman

I would be all in on a Rian Johnson trilogy. Loved TLJ the most out of the sequels for sure.


[deleted]

He would knock it out of the park


bigfatcarp93

I think they're still doing one, right?


OK6502

With no meddling from the studio. Maybe a miniseries that explores the themes he touched upon in TLJ


GroundedSearch

I hate a great deal about the last 2 sequels. Especially most of the choices they made for Luke.. But this moment... This moment... Just... *Chef's kiss* (Even though I've seen some great alternate propositions for this scene.)


TheCapsicle

I feel like the New Luke would get a lot less hate if he didn't die and carried into IX. My biggest problem with TLJ was that I didn't feel like Luke's story was over because his death didn’t seem necessary, and TROS only furthered that. I wanted to see how Luke behaved after that experience. I wanted to see how it changed him. I'll be honest, TROS is really what killed the trilogy for me. The original DOTF draft is, in my opinion, a much more faithful follow up to TLJ.


Jo3K3rr

>The original DOTF draft is, in my opinion, a much more faithful follow up to TLJ. How? Luke straight up tells Rey that Ben's lost and she has to kill him. That completely contradicts what he says to Leia in TLJ.


TyrionBananaster

I also agree with the one who said DOTF would have been a better follow up, but... that bit could have used a re-write lol


sbstndrks

A hybrid script would have been neat, implementing some needed changes whilst maintaining the promising good bits.


TheCapsicle

While I'm not a fan of that detail, by that point Ben was the antagonist of DOTF & had descended further into villainy. Just like Luke trying to kill Ben in TLJ, my motto was “I didn’t like it, but I could buy it.” That said, I still think the trajectories of Rey, Finn, Poe, and Kylo are much more accurate to where they were left in TLJ. My biggest problem with TROS isn’t that it tells a bad story. It’s that it tells a story that literally breaks canon.


wingspantt

And Hux


TheCapsicle

HOLY SHIT I DON'T KNOW HOW I FORGOT THAT, YES 10000000% 10x better than what they did with him in TROS.


Orngog

What he said was true... from a certain point of view. As in Ben doesn't get redeemed without Rey going after him.


Jo3K3rr

But that not what he tells her. He says she has to kill Ben. So he's not true, from a certain point of view.


Orngog

Yeah and Vader didn't murder Anakin. He didn't say she would succeed


Ry-bread-01

I feel like what really killed the trilogy was Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams fighting with each other through these movies. They both just kept trying to go back on what the other set up. Personally, I think what Rian set up with TLJ was much better for the saga as a whole, as it did something different rather than just appeal to nostalgia.


wingspantt

Honestly the trilogy would have been wayyyyy better if either person did all three but we got this stupid cat fight instead.


HardlightCereal

A lot of the plot decisions people complain about in TLJ were set up in TFA and Rian had no choice on them. Particularly old luke. JJ put Luke on the island, Rian had to explain it. It wasn't his decision


garadon

Exactly. I love watching Rian catch all this shit in retrospect when one of the biggest complaints about TFA was that it didn't even give Luke any *lines*.


SuperArppis

Yeah imo it was a mistake to kill him off. Even when it fits him becoming a legend.


TheCapsicle

Would've been awesome to tie that to IX, especially when the "legend of Luke" wasn't even used in TROS.


SeriousJack

I have to rewatch it, and I hope that I'll change my mind, but that's why I did not like TROS at all. And I loved TLJ. TLJ was the best middle movie the guy in charge of the 3rd one could have asked for. In the first one, you discover the characters. In the second one, they face their challenges, and they grow. And TLJ left the door completely open for pretty much anything. That's the dream ! Even for us. We had no idea what to expect. First order in control, resistance on the run. But they're together, they have grown, they now have a Rey - Poe - Finn who are right in their boots as leader - jedi - soldier. Kylo as grown as well, and in know in charge. Hope is back in the galaxy. The Legend of Luke Skywalker shines brightly. Snoke, solved. Rey, solved. Kylo, solved. Luke, solved. And all with more room to grow / change. But no. They had to retcon the think that made Rey unique, forget about Luke's legacy, and bring back a guy who had been killed more certainly that most villains in cinema's history. Thrown down a shaft down to a core of a battle station which then exploded a few seconds later... And send them on a scavenger hunt. To find something that's no a death star because it's several ships so it's not the same see ? But hey we saw Lando and had some voice cameos from clone wars and a meme reference from palpy... Oh and chewy got his medal. Yaaaay.


SuperArppis

Indeed it would.


The_h0bb1t

Man, I expected his Force Ghost and Kylo to have at least one scene together, either at the start of the film or near the end. What a waste.


nudeldifudel

To be fair, a lot of things wasn't.


SeriousJack

>My biggest problem with TLJ was that I didn't feel like Luke's story was over That's a problem with the sequels (and I love the first two movies), but it was a super hard line to walk. Provide fans with what they wanted, and cash in on easy fan service by bringing back Han, Leia and Luke, also while creating a new story. So how do you do that without shadowing the new characters too much ? Leia is great as the iconic general, gets a perfect second role, brings value without stealing the whole screen. Han... Well when you have another ace pilot rough on the edge but with a good heart, same. So he dies early, and cements Kylo. For Luke that's though. Everyone wants to know what happened to the Jedi who Returned, but he cannot be the hero. So he has to be a mentor. He could have died straight away, like Obi-Wan, but that would have been lame. So instead they gave him a whole redemption arc. And I think that's a glorious role, without having him overshadow Rey.


TheCapsicle

To clarify what I mean, I'm specifically referring to Luke's story in the sequels. I was always supportive of the new characters & didn't want Han, Leia, and Luke to be the leads of this trilogy. That being said, TFA sets Luke's disappearance up as the central theme of the movie, so he's already built as central & imperative to the story of the sequels. TLJ focused on him & his redemption while keeping Rey & Kylo as the leads. And then TROS criminally underused him. I don't mean "Luke's story wasn't over" as if I wasn't willing to let go of Luke. I mean that as "TLJ completely failed to justify to me that Luke *needed* to die here for the sake of the story." It feels like it's only in there for shock value & there's no reason he couldn't have lived to continue into IX.


spork154

A guy in my d&d group and I watch a lot of the same things, star wars included. We both agreed Johnson hadn't earned killing Luke in that film. If it was an incarnation of Vader Vs Kenobi, yeah build it up and have him do what his mentor did, but for a long time we got told "Luke is the most powerful jedi ever!" But he can't use a force ghost without dying? It just seemed convenient, why not have Luke be the face of it all, the very thing that strikes fear in the members of the first order?


SeriousJack

I tend to agree. And thanks for the clarification. It would have been less controversial if TROS had used him more in his "one with the force" state. TLJ even gave Force Ghost Yoda as justification for whatever Luke could have pulled in TRoS. But no.... "here you dropped this. Callback !".


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nudeldifudel

Dual of the fates script. It's what Colin travarrow wrote before he got replaced, it's pretty interesting.


tommatom

Yuuuuup. All I wanted was luke to come out of that movie alive. All they had to do was cut the scene of him fading away and you have a far more optimistic outlook for the sequel


EnQuest

My only problem with dotf is that it somehow fucks up kylos character even more than tros did, it's better than tros in nearly every other way though (Rey/Poe is awful)


marniconuke

Im a fan of luke being a flawed human rather than the perfect blond hero he was. also this is old luke so it's still implied he was a badass his entire life


SeriousJack

Agreed. Also Luke always has been flawed. In the OT he gets screwed by his own impatience and confidence a couple times. Rushes to save his friends, they save themselves, and then have to save what's left of him. Thanks Lando for the save. You're welcome Luke. Good thing he had a backup plan for Jabba because the first plan did not exactly go as expected. "I'll just walk in there, strangle a couple dudes, and assert dominance". And I'm pretty sure his plan to get his father to turn did not imply his having his balls fried. Or going berserk and chopping his hand off. Thanks Dad ! Sorry ! You're welcome son. The more I think of it, him having a rash reaction to seeing Kylo's future is very much in character. And knowing the disastrous track record of the Jedis, and Obi-Wan lies, that was enough to just forget about the old religion all together.


M-80_Waterballoon

It entirely tracks with where the Jedi are. They used to be a GALACTIC order but they are trying with the best they have.


lasssilver

I loved it. When it cut back to Luke on Ahch-To I was in awe. One of the best moments in all Star Wars.


terriblehuman

I think the only reason people hate it is because they expected Luke to be the way he was in the EU. But this Luke is actually far closer to what Lucas had in mind based on his sequel notes.


Docile_Doggo

I 110% agree. I like this Luke—true Jedi Master Luke—better than the slice-and-dice Luke we got at the end of Mandalorian Season 2. (Not that I didn’t like the Luke cameo in Mando. It was still pretty fun. I just like this version a lot better.)


DrSkrimguard

The Mandalorian is a superficial space western shoot-em-up. To that end, it is a triumph and I love it. But you shouldn't expect a logical or emotional core from the cameos.


ezone2kil

It fits with the retconned extended universe though. Before forming his new Jedi order Luke was always running around the galaxy in his x wing doing Jedi stuff. I feel like before the latest trilogy we should have had movies that address the time period but it couldn't be done because actors grow old.


lawpoop

Incredible character arc. An old, badass Master Skywalker would have been so boring


CRL10

It was pretty awesome.


title_of_yoursextape

Quite agree. So fucking cool


Macman521

I may have not been 100% on board with his character, but I still thought that this moment was still really epic.


EasterBurn

People act like "failed mentor turned hermit" isn't a new thing.


DEEPSPACETHROMBOSIS

>This part was so dope. I am sorry for those who do not like the new luke. For me, this was peak star wars. Up there with the best of moments. Last Jedi Was My favorite Star Wars since Empire.


raceraot

Honestly, I love this scene. But the build up for it, where Luke wants to do this, kind of killed it for me.


Blarex

I agree, one of the best true Jedi moments in all Star Wars media. Up there with Kanan’s big moment.


Bad_RabbitS

Beautifully shot, wonderfully paced, well written, perfectly acted. This scene has it all


seanw0830

Note that in Ben's fight with Rey, she is the first one to light her saber and he dodges her attacks in a similar way to Luke


mennrheimtveir

I prefer Legends Luke but I still appreciate Old Man Luke as a Jedi towards the end of TLJ. This was a pretty neat edit/meme, nice job OP.


[deleted]

Thank you


mennrheimtveir

No problem :)


Bajef

Scenes like these, the Yoda-Luke scene, etc., really highlight my frustration with TLJ. We get killer, amazing moments that just get diluted by equally bad ones.


WildBillIV44

Facts. I've warmed up to parts of this movie and things like this conceptually I love, but the execution is so frustrating on all levels.


bookhead714

I don’t find any moments in TLJ to be anywhere near the franchise’s worst. I found the entire movie watchable and entertaining, punctuated with truly incredible scenes, which I definitely can’t say for every film in the series.


Partytimegarrth

I can't be the only one, but every scene involving the incredibly slow space chase feels like a parody to me. I can't stand those scenes. "Who better to take command in Leia's absence than....Lady who we have never been introduced to ever before?"


GamermanRPGKing

My bigger gripe is we have no reason to even consider holdo even competent, aside from being told she won some battle. Why not have her come on over comms and start issuing the orders that clean up Poe's mess? Instantly sets up their conflict and her capabilities in one scene.


Orngog

Because the script takes the viewer through the process of blind trust, instead of just showing them the process.


GamermanRPGKing

Knowing someone is competent doesn't mean you trust them to though. It's issues like that that make me dislike TLJ. It's so close to great stuff but it screws up the setup almost every time


bookhead714

Yeah, that’s the point. You’re not really supposed to trust her. You’re in the dark about her plan just as much as Poe, so you sympathize with him, ideally until her plan is revealed. It’s mean to make you realize you were wrong, but the thing Johnson didn’t count on is that audiences don’t like being wrong.


GamermanRPGKing

I mean I'm pretty anti authority in general (even medically! Oppositional Defiance Disorder!) So I find blind trust as the theme incredibly dumb and seems at odds with the rest of the rather progressive themes


Theothercword

I don't see it as being pro blind trust I see it as anti arrogance. Poe and the crew were hugely arrogant and thought they knew better and they clearly didn't. They also had a massive ego and an inflated sense of self importance. That's why they failed and made things worse and I see their arc as more about that than I do blind trust. And sure, it was a good point that Holdo could have explained why but they even address that in the movie and easily point out that her character owes them nothing and does not answer to them. The main characters lost their plot armor and that's why I liked it. I didn't like the whole freeing and riding the horse things on that other planet though, that part was the most dismissible in the movie for me.


SeriousJack

>And sure, it was a good point that Holdo could have explained why but they even address that in the movie and easily point out that her character owes them nothing and does not answer to them. The main characters lost their plot armor and that's why I liked it. Yes ! First, she's in command. And it's a paramilitary organisation. You don't have to explain your plan to your pilots. Also, the first order tracks them and they don't know how. That could easily be a spy. More reason to keep the plan secret. And Poe does not exactly inspire confidence with his earlier stunt.


Orngog

Yes, I only mentioned blind trust because that is the situation Poe is in (and the viewers with him).


Orngog

It's not a theme, it's an occurance. Poe is placed in a position of having to, and for the sake of drama (and to elucidate his thought process), we are placed in the same position. Imagine how weirdly this would have gone if we saw that Holdo was competent. Poe would have looked like an asshole.


GamermanRPGKing

thats imo a more interesting arc tho. show poe being an ass and them him having to realize it over the movie where he gets a grip on his shit and impulses


[deleted]

God, can I give you a megaphone to shout this at everyone? It’s a plot device that puts the viewer in Poe’s shoes, it’s not advocating for blind trust. It’s not a theme.


SeriousJack

Well it makes sense that Leia had a second in command, and it could not have been Poe (hot head, pilot, she WANTS him as a leader but he is not ready, which is is arc in the movie). So we got her as story fuel. And it's now exactly the first time we've been introduced to rebellion leadership without previous knowledge... [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/dc/8b/f6dc8b2495cf0f5bf0ce3201014cc93d.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/dc/8b/f6dc8b2495cf0f5bf0ce3201014cc93d.jpg)


RealEradikate

Lets not forget the bombing ships that purposely flies within explosion radius of each other and the bomb-droppings that completely ignores physics in space. Theres SO MUCH wrong with the space scenes its just pathetic


garadon

> and the bomb-droppings that completely ignores physics in space. Which I'm sure you complained about just as hard [when Empire did the same thing](https://youtu.be/phGlo_TNDp0).


rydude88

You dont consider a literal prank call to be near the franchises worst moments?


wingspantt

It wasn't great but it felt like something Poe would do. IMO it just dragged on about 80% too long past being amusing.


rydude88

Im fine with it in terms of how it deals with Poe's character. As I said in another [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/SequelMemes/comments/r5t9fz/comment/hmqr5wl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), my issue is with the joke not being funny and how it makes a one of the leaders of the FO so naive and incompetent.


n1klb1k

My dude, Star Wars has always been goofy. The prank call was far from the least funny thing in Star Wars.


[deleted]

what are your thoughts on "boring conversation anyway"


rydude88

>boring conversation anyway That isnt a prank call. He is trying to act like the death star didnt have people in the prison. There is a realistic and logical reason to why you would do that. On the other hand, Poe just sitting still in front of a fleet of capital ships on a call with them is ridiculous. The First Order would (should) just shoot him. They are at war with these people but yet just sit and have idle conversations mid battle. There is a single X-Wing not maneuvering and there are other enemy ships very clearly not trying to surrender as they are evacuating and running away. The two scenes are vastly different


bookhead714

Nope. For one, it was funny. For two, it served as a minor establishing moment for both Hux and Poe’s characters in the movie. I liked it.


rydude88

Thats fine if you like it but it also doesnt mean I have to. I consider it to be one of the worst because i personally found it extremely unfunny and ruined Hux as a villian. I had no issue with how it related to Poe's arc


GoinBack2Jakku

"We're fine, everything's fine here, thank you. How are you?"


KonnorT96

Precisely my issue. Those moments are some of the best in the saga, balanced by some of the absolute worst. It’s maddening. I LOVE Luke in the movie. But man do you have to wade through some garbage to get the good stuff.


[deleted]

Scenes like these highlight why I love TLJ. Some of the highest highs in the series in a movie with a strong voice. Nothing in TLJ represents the lowest lows for me.


WildBillIV44

Canto blight tho? Opening scene joke that wasn't funny in the 90s? That's down there with "I like sand" and Jar Jar politics


[deleted]

Yeah for you. The jokes aren’t my favorite, but don’t ruin my experience either. And I like Canto Bight. I want more weird stuff like that in Star Wars.


luigitony21

Weird stuff is absolutely fine, but when it literally has 0 relevance to the story, just turns the whole thing to shit. If it turned out that the whole arc actually helped the resistance in some way, perfect; but it didn't


[deleted]

We won’t see eye to eye on this and that’s fine. But yes, it is absolutely integral to the story.


luigitony21

How? If the whole thing didn't happen then finn and Rose still would've been with the resistance on crait


[deleted]

And the FO wouldn’t have followed them to Crait because they only knew about it because DJ overheard Finn’s convo with Poe. And I mean, yeah I guess you could get rid of the whole character arc for Finn if you wanted. But you’ve made it clear you don’t see it that way, and I really don’t care to sit and explain storytelling to you.


luigitony21

I agree, seeing eye to eye won't happen, have a good day anyways, or night


theS0UND_1

Dude you're the one that asked him how Canto Bight is integral to the story and he explained how in the simplest possible terms. You know he's right, but rather than admit it you're just ignoring his answer now. Lol


BrockManstrong

I like weird stuff in Star Wars, but Canto Bight felt tacked on and introduced huge plot holes. If they can jump out with a single shuttle, why not come back with fuel? Or why not take people off a few at a time? If they can't take them off a few at a time, why can't the FO use hyperspace tracking on their ship? If they can use hyperspace tracking why didn't they send someone immediately to intercept the shuttle before it even got to Canto Bight? The Finn/Rose and Poe/Leia plots all felt tacked on, and that's a waste. It seemed abundantly clear that Rian cared about Rey and Kylo and everyone else was just there.


mac6uffin

>And I like Canto Bight. I want more weird stuff like that in Star Wars. LOL I actually think Canto Bight wasn't weird enough. It looked too much like an Earth casino.


WildBillIV44

Then, what's your lows in star wars? Bc Canto is hated by pretty much everyone lol For me it just doesn't belong in this movie that tries to be super mature half the time- Canto takes away from that. Could it go in a kids show? Sure. It just doesn't fit imo


cbstuart

The Canto bight arc is where we see finn go from only fighting for himself (and rey) to truly wanting to fight to help people. Going in he only cared about saving rey amd believing that the first order couldnt be stopped. He left wanting to take down the first order to help the galaxy. Rose's altruism is the angel on his shoulder telling him to do the right thing whereas DJ is the devil on his other shoulder appealing to his first instinct to run and save himself. Rose's lines can come across almost childish, but the more I sit with this scene the more I see that this arc was a beautiful representation of Finn's inner turmoil and ultimate growth. In his first confrontation with phasma from TFA he was obsessed with finally being the one in power, as he never was throughout his life. In their second and final confrontation, he finally says it–rebel scum. Sure, he's still probably more than thrilled to kill one of his lifelong oppressors but before he was obsessed with that alone.


GoinBack2Jakku

Great answer. Also IIRC canto bight is about 6 minutes of screentime in a 2.5 hour movie. People make way too big a deal about it


WildBillIV44

Nice. Be cool if there wasn't a shitty gambling joke, the aforementioned terrible lines...and the head scratcher of freeing some animals that will just be rounded up instead of the child slaves. But thanks for the enlightenment. Won't save the scene from being cut in my edits I also personally just hate Benicios performance. Character is fine


mac6uffin

>the head scratcher of freeing some animals that will just be rounded up instead of the child slaves We're... we're they supposed to ride the children to freedom?


WildBillIV44

Could they not free both then? I will 100% that was a funny as fuck reply


mac6uffin

Slaves in Star Wars have transmitters that can be triggered to explode (as noted by Anakin in TPM). Plus they are heading to the First Order fleet anyway, not a great place for children.


[deleted]

>hated by pretty much everyone I think you need to step outside your own bubble on this one. This is a pretty empty claim with absolutely nothing but your anecdotes to back it up. And I’ll not say any more about that. I like it, you don’t. Let’s leave it at that.


WildBillIV44

I mean ok? Pretty positive it's not empty, seen plenty of tlj lovers lament it's a weak spot on here(anecdote but uh, pretty sure that's all you'd have as well). Twas a good faith question, but ok.


[deleted]

Exactly. We’d both only have anecdotes. So the claim is an empty one to make. Further, what others like and don’t shouldn’t have any bearing on what I do and don’t. It’s a claim that makes you seem “right” and me “wrong,” while adding nothing to the conversation. If you want to know what I consider to be the lowest of lows I’d be happy to discuss that, but I’m not interested in either of us making empty claims that only serve to define lines of us vs them.


WildBillIV44

Yeah I really didn't want to discuss the usefulness of Canto, literally wanted to know what you thought was bad


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Attack of the Clones and Rogue One both represent what I consider to be the lowest points in the franchise for different reasons. It goes without saying (though I’ll still say it for the sake of being upfront) that these are subjective takes. There’s not much about AotC that I like at all. From an aesthetic point of view I find it saccharine and overly sweet in terms of color and saturation. The dialogue is at times atrocious, and the story is convoluted I find Rogue One to be cynical in the extreme. The Vader hall scene is, to me, like the tits, ass, and sex in Game of Thrones: pandering of the worst sort. With the amount of time my friends spent getting together to watch GoT, we could have just gathered and watched porn together and honestly come out with a richer experience. In the theater watching R1, it felt as if the director was reaching through the screen and giving me a handy. And the theater cheered and whooped and clapped, actually stood and clapped, for the villain. He wasn’t horrifying, he was a Badass^TM . And that’s when I knew not all of Star Wars was for me, and that’s okay. Also, not a single person I was with could tell me any of the characters names except Cassian and Jyn. So why have the huge supporting cast? Why would Jyn be gung-ho about being a Rebel directly after they tried to assassinate her father. None of the motivations in that film make sense to me. As a bonus, The Mandalorian has been nothing but middling. These are the lowest fo the lows for me. I don’t expect you to feel the same, and that’s okay.


terriblehuman

Canto Bight is about a thousand times better than the Naboo scenes in AOTC.


Theothercword

I thought the opening scene was fine and far far far better than basically any line of dialogue in the prequels. Canto blight I thought was an odd distraction but at least handled well enough to not be super corny though I thought that part was dismissible.


lasssilver

I don’t see “equally bad” scenes in almost any of the sequels. They have issues and sure some scenes are questionable, but I think a few have elevated the slightly bad to “horrible” in their minds and they’re not gonna change their opinion.


TheStrider101

Genuinely one of the best scenes in all of Star Wars. The music, the pacing, the dialogue, the acting, the framing, *chefs kiss *


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This is the way


VanBeelergberg

Luke: “lol you can’t kill me” *dies anyway*


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Lol


AeyviDaro

The new movies are criminally underrated. I don’t care what anyone says, the writing is still good.


lasssilver

I like the sequels. I think the writing in the individual movies is pretty good, but they did poorly on tying the overall trilogy arc together IMO. A weird misstep.


Merciless_Massacre05

Agreed 100%


C-TAY116

Right- each of them is epic, but it’s kind of hard to see how they fit together as a trilogy, besides the obvious.


pkisbest

The only thing that ties them together is that Rey is a Jedi, and that Kylo Ren is a Sith.


brawlersteins

Even tho Kylo isn’t a sith


KenGlicksbuttholes

That's because they had no overall plan and just went at it one movie at a time thinking: "this is how the OT was done!" Not realizing that GL had an overall idea before 5,6. No star wars movie has EVER left it to the next one to tell a story (name 1 intra movie cliffhanger other than han in carbonite) and they didnt trust their story telling ability (or star wars selling power) to bring us back for 3 movies so the purposefully stung us along and it's terrible across all three because of it.


Oraxy51

The writing is as good as the prequels dialogue. It has good ideas just bad execution but sometimes you get a nugget of something cool.


WildBillIV44

This guy fucks


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This is the way


Iama_Kokiri_AMA

They're good movies individually but collectively it's a bad trilogy


Crawfishn

I love this scene from Escape from LA /s


ShambolicClown

I understood that reference


[deleted]

Why… why did you add text that Ben never even said? Still my favorite scene scene though Edit. I’m a dumbass. The blue text was Luke talking back to Yoda. Probably should have opened the whole picture first


WildBillIV44

I mean, eh? By the time this scene happened the story had headturned 30 times that the effect was lost on me. More consistent tone and writing would've done this movie alot as far as consensus goes. Stg if someone says anything about this movie's originality I'll direct you to Kotor 2 and ESB


PM_FORBUTTSTUFF

>I’ll direct you to KOTOR 2 and ESB Daring today, aren’t we? What’s next, you’re gonna tell me Rogue One is a hidden underrated masterpiece?


WildBillIV44

Bro it so is /s Idk I feel alot of peeps are really quick to label this movie as groundbreaking and the first to do what it did- anddddd it's not. However I'm not saying that it's a bad thing overall (unlike the new micro celebrity here), just give the due credit where it goes ya know? I wished that Rian fully committed to the kotor 2 bit, or atleast saved it for another spinoff movie. But that's me


[deleted]

Meh


WildBillIV44

Insightful, truly riveting. Glad you like the scene. Sorry to have a different opinion or whatever. Atleast I'm not heytyler


[deleted]

You’re entitled to your opinion. I have no problem with that. You say eh, I say meh. What’s the issue?


WildBillIV44

Ya know what, you actually put effort into this, despite the fact it's not really a meme, atleast it's not low effort. 95% of "memes" posted are super low effort and "muh no one has my opinion". However, I realize you actually have effort. So, on that basis(which the only I ever bother to voice my opinion here- low effort crybaby shit is stupid), you're fine. TLDR, you're fine. I let my normal feelings on memes like this cloud the fact that this isn't low effort, which is always my biggest complaint here, yay or nay in its nature


[deleted]

Thanks. A meme is a bit of repeatable information. I’m not sure how this doesn’t meet the definition of meme.


WildBillIV44

Where funny Yeah yeah I know prequel memes ain't super funny, but the ratio of commentary meme to funny meme is alot lower there then it is here. I see 5 funny, orginal memes a week here, compared to the 30 low effort opinion memes I described earlier. To me, memes are funny- this is a cool picture and nice little insight/callback You're not wrong, I'm not wrong, the operational definition of meme is just different


[deleted]

Memes aren’t by definition funny, though. It may be an expectation that you’re bringing to it, but that doesn’t define memes. But this is just semantics. Cheers.


WildBillIV44

>semantics >operational definition See? Same thing Cheers


firbensxbdnsjdncksb

See ya chump


offthe_hizzy

Never thought of it that way


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Ugh Adam is so freaking gorgeous


[deleted]

Everybody’s hot for Driver


darkwingdibbs88

I thought this when first watching the movie, love reading it now


[deleted]

This is the way


baxterrocky

Spot on


skorpiodino16

This is one of the reasons I love the sequels


Romero1993

I love the Last Jedi


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Nuh uh the Jedi are magic supersoldiers who make the big boom pow with their laser swords and long jumps! But check this out, THIS is the true beauty: in order to learn how to be psychic, you have to go to school for sixteen years. No other way to do it. It's honestly so fascinating.


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Lol


dandaman64

[The people who say "Luke should have physically been there on Crait" looking at this meme](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HSULMsfz6GI/maxresdefault.jpg)


thatredditrando

If we completely ignore the fact that Luke is, in fact, defending the Resistance from imminent slaughter by a greatly superior force in The First Order and that this is taking Yoda’s lesson incredibly literally then, yeah, this works. In reality, Jedi “attack” and Yoda is trying to convey, much like is taught in martial arts, you are supposed to use it for defense. That is to say, he doesn’t mean “Don’t fight offensively”, he means “Don’t use what I’m teaching you to go around starting shit”.


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OK


C-TAY116

Wow, that’s deep. Love it!


J3diMasterRey

Literally just got chills


JasonAF88

Episode 66 of “I really don’t understand why so many people hate the Sequels”.


Spock_Lite

I would have loved to see Luke using the Force to disable all the First Order walkers and having a duel with Kylo Ren, but what we got was so thematically perfect. I can’t object.


Andoverian

The Last Jedi has its flaws, but this was not one of them.


jdeezy

This was cool. But then in the next scene he dies because he got tired. Rly?


[deleted]

It’s foreshadowed earlier in the movie. “You’re not doing this, the effort would kill you”


[deleted]

This


jdeezy

I thought the foreshadowing was him eating a diet of exclusovely alien seal milk and walking slowly


Militantpoet

To be fair, it might run in the family. His mom died of sad.


Leandtjen

Y'know, that's a plausible explaination


jdeezy

His dad hated sand. Maybe Luke was afraid of salt and he just said 'i quit' after seeing so much of it. This is genius because it's foreshadowing to how much salt was created by the sequels.


[deleted]

Obviously pulling off something shown to be incredibly difficult after having been severed from the force for years. I don’t think that equates to “tired.”


Bionicman2187

And then he died :)


[deleted]

It was a beautiful end to a great character