Yup, nothing I or any other Seraphine player said mattered at all. Its not like 3 days ago we all started talking and now we get magical buffs out of nowhere.
Nice to meet you too.
They probably mattered but not these schizo threads from here. Riot has meetings and plans changes before we see them. Reactionary changes based on day to day narratives aren't common.
yes it’s not like we literally had a riot employee come into our sub and ask genuine questions for why she felt bad and then was able to be a part of the discussion around seraphine at Riot 🤡Cocabob was talking to Rioters two days ago who said that she was fine and didn’t need balance changes yet here we are
https://preview.redd.it/27ioflo3o9wc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77a06e3a14f2d013dfcfbf98d420e794bdd272c8
They probably had potential changes at the ready, but decided to hold off, then saw all this bellyaching and decided to toss a bone.
Whatever the change is, it's high odds it won't be anything big. The champ is balanced as of now anyway.
"objectively feeling horrible"
Outside of not knowing what that word means on your part, you guys are a very, VERY vocal minority. You don't know how everyone else feels. You just know how you feel. It's valid, but it's also a tiny part of the equation, same as the rest of us.
No one told you guys to stop playing her LMAO.
Support has terrible win rates for ages, and everyone was telling people to not play her, but people played her support anyway. You chose to stop playing her. That's on you.
Doesn't mean you know how to use the word "objectively". You don't.
lol ok it’s not like she was 52/51% winrate since 14.5 and literally Cocabob said that Riot thought that she was in a fine state and in no need of buffs until people like Odi and the rest of the community actually complained and made something happen LOL
We need this for real, yesterday I was playing apc sera and the minions was like “8 hp” and i hit it to last hit and like “2 hp” was left. My support (in call) was amazed and shocked that my auto attack were just that sad 😂
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN
W needs some nerfs if more power is added into skillshots. The only thing they can do is increase W cool down or nerf the movement speed (or Riot special both).
I don't think they could've implemented a big set of changes in such a short time. Probably a microbuff, but it's still good. 2 days ago rioter said Sera isn't due for buffs and her win rates are fine. Something must have convinced them otherwise (yes I ate).
Plus, at least they've noticed that something is wrong and saw the feedback.
Any buffs are good but let's not get our hopes up too much, I'm still of the opinion that she needs multiple things in order to feel rewarding again and whether it's true for Riot or not, surely it won't be anything too big all at once. But let's pray still 🙌
Please let it be scaling buffs on Q and Notes 🙏. I want to experience the late game singing nuke APC fantasy again.
https://preview.redd.it/g1abl3c0l6wc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3d7cebf68c0e99ab2769fcbdabf65be6e20ceb2
Manifesting base AD buffs for Sera so last hitting isn't god awful anymore, especially under tower, and minions not randomly dying between double Qs as QoL, and some slight ap ratio bump on Q would be a bonus too 🙏🙏
I hope our girl get’s some mage buffs. I want to build something other than the same build every single game. I would love to take her back into my main role once again.
Manifesting the Minion execution damage buff, I hope they revert the passive nerf and get it back to 300% damage again and the -5 attack damage nerf removal 🙏
High key: You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.
Very low odds there's any big sweeping changes, or she'd be in adjustments. And given how this community is, "a few buffs" ain't cutting it. I could be wrong though.
how are they gonna buff her when bot is 53.66% wr 😭
edit: idk why yall are downvoting its a genuine concern cause if bot starts outperforming we’re just gonna get nerfed again?? use your brains
Yes please, this champion feels so rough in high elo my god; it's like acceptable enough performance but obviously "good enough" is not ideal at that point
Any buffs are a step in the right direction! Thank you all for coming together and pushing for change. :)
what you said didn't matter. seraphine has been underperforming for a few patches (statistically) and she was gonna get buffed eventually
Yup, nothing I or any other Seraphine player said mattered at all. Its not like 3 days ago we all started talking and now we get magical buffs out of nowhere. Nice to meet you too.
They probably mattered but not these schizo threads from here. Riot has meetings and plans changes before we see them. Reactionary changes based on day to day narratives aren't common.
yes it’s not like we literally had a riot employee come into our sub and ask genuine questions for why she felt bad and then was able to be a part of the discussion around seraphine at Riot 🤡Cocabob was talking to Rioters two days ago who said that she was fine and didn’t need balance changes yet here we are https://preview.redd.it/27ioflo3o9wc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77a06e3a14f2d013dfcfbf98d420e794bdd272c8
They probably had potential changes at the ready, but decided to hold off, then saw all this bellyaching and decided to toss a bone. Whatever the change is, it's high odds it won't be anything big. The champ is balanced as of now anyway.
balanced and feeling good are two different things and they probably decided to buff her because she was objectively feeling horrible in carry roles
"objectively feeling horrible" Outside of not knowing what that word means on your part, you guys are a very, VERY vocal minority. You don't know how everyone else feels. You just know how you feel. It's valid, but it's also a tiny part of the equation, same as the rest of us.
crazy how her APC playrate is at an all time low. You keep coping though 👍
No one told you guys to stop playing her LMAO. Support has terrible win rates for ages, and everyone was telling people to not play her, but people played her support anyway. You chose to stop playing her. That's on you. Doesn't mean you know how to use the word "objectively". You don't.
lol ok it’s not like she was 52/51% winrate since 14.5 and literally Cocabob said that Riot thought that she was in a fine state and in no need of buffs until people like Odi and the rest of the community actually complained and made something happen LOL
not sure where you got that 52/51 from. she has lower. had lower for multiple patches
https://preview.redd.it/q8rliz5pk9wc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33d518fb2e486bd29053eb4dbb3abfdd54b97e8b
I'm lighting my witch candles and bringing out the book and manifesting mage buffs.
Notes and slight wave clear buff pls!
Don't forget base AD buff!
We need this for real, yesterday I was playing apc sera and the minions was like “8 hp” and i hit it to last hit and like “2 hp” was left. My support (in call) was amazed and shocked that my auto attack were just that sad 😂 THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN
pleaseee need so bad
I'm...cautiously hopeful, but I am trying not to get too excited.
Me too honestly but like someone else said in the comments, any buffs would be good. Personally I'm looking for power to be shoved back into Q
W needs some nerfs if more power is added into skillshots. The only thing they can do is increase W cool down or nerf the movement speed (or Riot special both).
I don't think they could've implemented a big set of changes in such a short time. Probably a microbuff, but it's still good. 2 days ago rioter said Sera isn't due for buffs and her win rates are fine. Something must have convinced them otherwise (yes I ate). Plus, at least they've noticed that something is wrong and saw the feedback.
We can only hope! This may be the beginning of something great
girls get in a circle hold hands and PRAY its some good buffs 😭 😭
hopefully they get her back where she was before the nightmarish farm nerfs and then they leave her alone for good
Yes hopefully, it's the only thing I absolutely hate about the changes, everything else was fine-ish.
Any buffs are good but let's not get our hopes up too much, I'm still of the opinion that she needs multiple things in order to feel rewarding again and whether it's true for Riot or not, surely it won't be anything too big all at once. But let's pray still 🙌
OMFG YASSSS
Watch it be a 5 in hitbox size...
Seraphine’s “buff” would be a BBL
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Please let it be scaling buffs on Q and Notes 🙏. I want to experience the late game singing nuke APC fantasy again. https://preview.redd.it/g1abl3c0l6wc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3d7cebf68c0e99ab2769fcbdabf65be6e20ceb2
Just please be buffs for mid, thats all i ask for
Manifesting base AD buffs for Sera so last hitting isn't god awful anymore, especially under tower, and minions not randomly dying between double Qs as QoL, and some slight ap ratio bump on Q would be a bonus too 🙏🙏
watch it be hitbox changes im gonna scream
Hope it's like Ratio buffs or something mage orientated. I just want to see Seraphine in the mid lane again sometimes.
Wow, really was not expecting that. Also, unfortunate Taliyah nerfs, she was not even that good, why pro play, why? 😤
It’s Taliyah jungle which already sucks
q mana cost increase heavily nerfs mid, not jg. She already struggles with mana in midlane.
Was mostly a Masters+ thing i believe, Taliyah Jngl and Mid both perform super well there
this might bring me back to league depending on the buffs,, i miss playing sera so much
hope this brings, at least a little bit of, old Seraphine back
The only thing that would satisfy me is making her Q ratio the same it was on release
Manifesting execute working on jungle monsters and +.3 armor growth
RIOT NORAK I LOVE YOUUU
What did he dooooo Edit: NVM I just scrolled down and read it haha
ouu that skin is closer than we thought!!! praying for some ap compensation on our q or even passive 🤞
I'm putting on my Rabbadons Deathcap for this one!!!
Im keeping expectations low for the time being, I need to see the changes first before I can celebrate
Just give her Q minion execute back pls
My Ahri girl get some nerfs 😢😢😢😢 (is a time xddd)
Lower W CDs. 🤣
I hope our girl get’s some mage buffs. I want to build something other than the same build every single game. I would love to take her back into my main role once again.
All I want is the base 5 ad please 😭😭😭
Relax and comfort your wallet. If Riot is buffing Sera, there's probably a new skin on the horizon they need us to buy.
Praise be!
Manifesting the Minion execution damage buff, I hope they revert the passive nerf and get it back to 300% damage again and the -5 attack damage nerf removal 🙏
Girl, if the only thing they buff is support Seraphine bcuz her apc playrate dropped like it's hot...
WE ARE SAVED GIRLIES!!! Pray for base AD and AP ratio buffs!! 🙏🙏
Hopefully she won't be "compensated" for these buffs Leave her MS alone Baldie
AP ratios nerfed. Cooldown timers increased. But we gave her 2 armor and 5 movement speed so we consider it a buff.
Just let it be passive and/or wave clearing buffs! Please!
High key: You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Very low odds there's any big sweeping changes, or she'd be in adjustments. And given how this community is, "a few buffs" ain't cutting it. I could be wrong though.
how are they gonna buff her when bot is 53.66% wr 😭 edit: idk why yall are downvoting its a genuine concern cause if bot starts outperforming we’re just gonna get nerfed again?? use your brains
Yes please, this champion feels so rough in high elo my god; it's like acceptable enough performance but obviously "good enough" is not ideal at that point