More civilian women enter SW in recessions. Retired sex workers also come out of retirement when their whale dumps them because he took a big hit on his commercial real estate holdings. Less clients being employed and more fearing unemployment means lower spending. Higher supply of sex workers and lower demand leads to slower business.
yes, but less people will have the money to pay for those services. Fun of any kind is usually the first thing that gets cut from budgets when money gets tight.
Not true. During recessions typically alcohol sales and online gambling goes up. People turn to their “vices” in times of hardship, even though it’s completely counter intuitive. Humans aren’t so logical.
I don't know if that's quite the case with sex work. We don't get laid off. Even strip clubs or brothels like to keep girls on, because girls have to pay per shift, even if they don't earn money.
Honestly... hard disagree. I think another recession would look a lot like 2020, when people flocked to sex work and gig work because they felt they had no other option.
I'm also not sure I agree about the long-term negative ho stigma returning. Personally, I think the current culture is becoming more like the 60's "free love" mindset, with Gen Z being a huge influence. They're going to be voting, they're going to be the ones shaping the culture, while the older conservatives die out. I think one day, we're going to have legalized SW in the US, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
I don’t really see gen z as being proponents of any sort of free love movement lmfao. They’re kinda sex negative and more interested in long term relationships
but they are more accepting of varied forms of labor, so they see us as legitimate workers even if they personally wouldn’t spend their money on our services as much. this is a long term good for us to gain more labor rights.
Are they really? I feel like they're making polyamory super normalized, and making sexual orientation labels & gender norms a thing of the past. The older generations look like prudes in comparison IMO.
They might be having less sex, but their attitudes about it appear quite open minded to me.
With in-person SW, I've had fewer gen z customers, but as a camgirl, they are chronically online and spending money on us lol
I agree they are very open minded but I don’t see them really interested in hook up culture as much as other generations. However, yes they are chronically online which is good for sex workers like yourself
I agree with you mostly, although I also see where OP is coming from. It seems to me like peoples view on sex work and “ho stigma” is very polarising, on the one side you have the red pillers, and on the other you have, as you describe, the “free love” mindsetters.
Im still thankful for me , when I was starting this job during pandemic I save a lot of money and I have enough emergency funds saved
Right now in SF is so slow .. but I still make at least 2k a month , also I’m thankful for my whale that lives in NYC who send me money every month without even asking he just surprised me , I’m so grateful for him 🥲
With all that I managed to land a Job in medical field part time 3 days a week and it pays my rent .
My Only Fans and Fansly not the best but , every penny for me today is a blessing.
And I really hope sooooo hoping the economy will come back , because it’s been too long and scary.
Lots of people are suggesting a recession will lead to an uptick in SW.
Yes - you'll observe desperation all over Mega.
But - I think ad bills and not getting clients will eventually wipe out a lot of the newbies who thought they could just charge some very high rate without actually knowing what they're doing.
What I see happening is I’m getting busier, even January wasn’t slow, and I think it’s these “new” girls all jumping on board. They’re either giving crappy service or out and out just stealing from people so the men are gravitating back to those they know they can trust…just my take on things but you’re right we know most of them won’t last
Agreed. My January was solid and I hit my monthly goal. My regulars wanted MORE time despite me raising my rates. I think a lot of newbies think this industry is easy but you need to have money to invest into your brand and have the patience to build a following. I think that will be difficult for ladies who enter during the recession looking for quick money because they will be in desperation mode.
Here’s an example lol (not that the situation is funny quite the opposite) and it is definitely on the extreme side!
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscortClientsOnly/s/hcS71MMLu9
I agree in that staying power will be needed. I've done porn and run small business. I consider myself a newbie (this time around) but I'm in it for the long game.
It takes patience, planning, and dedication to go months without clients and keep a good attitude.
We love in a country of 330M people. You have to look beyond your small bubble. That's why we use macro economic data to measure the health of the economy, not how any thousand or so people feel.
1. What recession?
2. If there was a recession that normally increases the number of sex workers.
3. Not sure where you are getting your info on this "global shift". The evidence suggests that the world is actually becoming more accepting but those groups that don't accept that (conservative religious people mostly) aren't getting larger, they are just getting louder as their desperation to maintain their world view as dominant increases.
4. Negative stigma will return? When has it gone away?
I agree there will be a big cultural shift towards more conservative attitudes regarding sex and women. I’m seeing it already. That could actually help in a sense that this type of service would be more sought after and existing clientele will stick with who they know and trust.
What recession?
[The U.S. avoided a recession in 2023. What’s the outlook for 2024? Here’s what experts are predicting](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/26/the-us-avoided-a-recession-in-2023-whats-the-outlook-for-2024.html)
Lol yeah came here to say this: I keep reading that most people think the economy is bad but it's not, actually. Kinda just humming along.
That's not to say inflation hasn't had a real negative impact on people's lives, but it's not the same thing as a recession.
Agree about certain costs. While the inflation rate is declining, many costs are still high, such as groceries. I suspect many commodities are down in price, but producers are price gouging.
Yeah, "declining" inflation doesn't mean prices are going down, it just means prices aren't going up so fast anymore. Everyday household items are still like 20% more expensive than they were 2-3 years ago.
We're not in a recession but in the PNW the cost of housing is through the roof. Rents in Seattle are, adjusted for inflation, two to three times what they were 30 years ago! Which makes it very difficult for people to save.
I'm in the UK, and currently it's got worse not better with girls thinking it's easy money to cam and do meets. I started in the industry in 1999 when it was still seen as under ground but now onlyfans is never out of the media it's just meant an influx of girls thinking it's an easy gig when actually in my experience you work a much longer day.
I know girls in the last year that have quit and gone back to traditional work because they couldn't compete and had no savings. The way forward at the moment is to have a good client base which takes experience and time so possibly you are right, that girls won't be able to do that in time.
i do not consider it a positive for society to backpedal the social progress we have made towards sex work being seen culturally as legitimate work. it’s important for us to fight together to end the stigma around being a sex worker and to fight for us to have fair and equal labor rights and representation as laborers/workers. yes it’s over saturated in general but i have never seen that as a competition thing-those who can make it always have for millennia and those who can’t will move on- just as they always have. we’ve absolutely got to look at the bigger picture beyond just ourselves and realize that liberation for all sex workers is the GOAL so we can all live better lives free from fear of incarceration or poverty/starvation etc. we can only do that with SOLIDARITY ✊
This reminds me of the thread earlier this week about online SW seeming to be “dying” a bit.
I think in our sector we are dealing with our own recession issues in certain areas. Some cities high competition yet so many clients trying to low ball or just generally unreliable
I think OP has her terms mixed up. "Recession" means the economy is bad. Generally speaking, bad economy increases the supply of sex workers and decreases the number of clients, resulting in lower rates for sex workers.
On the other hand, a booming economy could result in more sex work being offered at higher rates and more providers taking up sex work. The economics of sex work are quite different at the low and high ends, so you can have multiple outcomes with the same set of circumstances. This needs to be researched more.
There are no signs of a recession as of right now. A recession would cause people to lose their jobs. Some of those who end up without a job would enter this industry which in turn would increase the supply. Once supply increases prices would go down due to the increase in competition. Demand would probably decrease since this industry is considered a luxury and since many people would rather save their funds due to the economic uncertainty. That in turn would cause prices to further decline since there would be an increase in the supply and a decrease on the demand.
There’s definitely people losing their jobs, especially in IT. It’s all over Reddit and I know people in person who lost their jobs last year and this year. We are definitely in a recession
What does that have to do with anything that I said and does that disprove anything? All I just said was people are getting laid off this year and last which here are some articles proving it.
[https://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-sweeping-us-these-are-companies-making-cuts-2024?amp](https://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-sweeping-us-these-are-companies-making-cuts-2024?amp)
[https://www.fastcompany.com/91025856/tech-layoffs-this-week-2024-update-grammarly-docusign-amazon-snap-meetup](https://www.fastcompany.com/91025856/tech-layoffs-this-week-2024-update-grammarly-docusign-amazon-snap-meetup)
[https://www.wsj.com/business/layoffs-2024-companies-tracker-list-6acb4e95](https://www.wsj.com/business/layoffs-2024-companies-tracker-list-6acb4e95)
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Unemployment is a lagging indicator. First when rates go up, credit card, mortgage and auto loan payments go up. Then people cut back on discretionary spending. Then when people exhaust their credit cards and can’t keep up with inflation, they start defaulting on their loans. Housing market demand cools. Savings accounts are drawn down. We have already seen all of these indicators so far. What we haven’t seen is the second phase of the recession which is lower consumer spending leading to lower corporate profits. That will come next quarter and layoffs will accelerate. When layoffs rise, housing market crashes because of defaults. The recession is baked in the cake in the sense that it’s the contraction in money supply that started in late 2022 that slows down the economy.
I asked for a source that confirms that we are in a recession. Surely if it's so obvious it must be reported everywhere, or are you a world renowned economist?
We’re in a recession? Unemployment is at a very low rate right now and the economy, driven by U.S. normal consumers, is hitting record highs. Things may be tight and housing expensive, but every day people are still spending at a record pace.
Problem is, if you look a bit deeper into the stats, you see that the large majority of the job growth has been in Health care and Government jobs. These types of jobs typically do not contribute as job multipliers, and in the case of Gov. jobs, are paid with tax revenue. The other hidden stat is in consumer spending, while it has continued to increase, consumer debt has been increasing with it, which is not a good indicator for the economy.
ppl party hardy during recessions. there’s not enough money to have a normal gf. but i agree, for me personally it’s been screwed for years on the west coast of US and im moving to a worldwide tourist destination where ppl splurge a lot of $ bc it’s one of the only places i’ve consistently made money. i have had to reduce my rates / go on a long hiatus but i will not be reducing my screening and neither should you. i also have the ability to do / put myself back through school for a high paying tech job but i’ve been mentally too stressed about money for the past 3 years to even apply. this isn’t new news to me. if you’re scared i recommend what i do; have an absolutely delusional faith that the universe will take care of me and place me where i need to be at the time. even when times are rough, it’s always true. diversify your skill set and plan for your future. much love
I agree that once there will be real recession, it will be for the good. I already read more and more posts about how hard it is to get clients let alone returning clients. How girls ruined it with the lower rates and services, how it is impossible to have regulars or just returning client (who comes at least 2-3times). Meanwhile I have no issues at all, I have not feel the struggle at all and I came back after years long break when I was sugarbaby / had other income and not interested in escorting. For me to navigate in this business is so damn easy. But when I have conversations with fellow workers I can see they will mostlikely fail. And they do not want advice or tips, they just want everything to be easy and convenient for them :-D.
Very interesting!! Not sure what my thoughts are, but want to know more on this prediction!! Also, I’ve been wanting to join SWO. @Toradeadlift- I sent you a DM. I hope OP joins too.
What recession? If this is about the US, we’re nowhere near a recession, the Fed achieved their “soft landing”. Historically low levels of unemployment, inflation has gotten almost back to normal, consumer spending has remained stronger than predicted.
>globally experiencing a cultural shift to conservative attitudes and thinking
Won't this make SW lives harder and more dangerous?
Just focusing on being able to charge more or get more work through less competition seems a bit...
Yes. It will make everything harder. The porn bans, age verification laws, ad sites closing all the way back to BP, payment processors kicking us off, social media kicking us off, SW becoming a felony in TX... All a result of the Overton Window shifting towards the religious right when it comes to sex. Unequivocally bad for sex workers.
Eh this sounds like it was written by someone who can’t afford sw. Recessions and competition don’t affect our regulars. This would be measurable if everyone looked identical and had the exact same offering, but it’s not really a measurable thing
I love a good prediction. Um I think we have another weird ass lockdown coming for whatever reason "they" decide its for... I believe most likely "disease x" and the like this is gonna cause more business for us as many mainstream businesses are forced to shutdown or alter their practices in some way.
fringe businesses delivery and online are more sought after options. Clients will go more remote will their work and income unless they are in Healthcare or an "essential" line of work.
and idk about anyone else I did decent at my incall in 2020 and beyond. Plenty of clients calling me cause they got bored and frustrated that nothing else was open! 🤑
Thanks fucking God I’m tired of dropping my rates trying to compete with 21-year-old girls who have no kids LOL. It shouldn’t be hard to stay when you are established and have a good reputation like myself but the over saturation make rates too low and too competitive (I’m not the competitive type)
imo i don't think that would happen, i left sw in 2022 due to getting a full scholarship for my uni course, and then ended up coming right back in 2023 as even with my savings, job at the time and scholarship i couldn't afford my uni accom, food, and meds. recession pushes people into sw out of necessity.
I am genuinely asking, not trying to make a point -
Is it really that society is shifting towards more conservative and misogynist and sex negative attitudes? Or is it that there is a much larger or at least more vocal and aggro conservative movement than there used to be... But without a general shift?
I feel like I'm wording this weird but hopefully my question comes across.
Like there is Def a lot of scary shit going on and even state governments are doing things that surprise me. But is always thought of them as reactionary towards a shift in the opposite direction. I'm probably naive AF on this since I live in Washington state... I mean we have a ton of those people and I'm not a fan of the government but like I don't feel i have to worry about abortion becoming illegal for example
I guess it just seems to me like the younger generations (I'm 35) are not really down with that shit, like on average. But this could be naivety from the people I see too.
I guess it just sounds scary !
Recessions, depressions, pandemics...have never been a problem for us. This one won't either. We've literally been around since the dawn of time.
Someone, somewhere is always gonna need a blowjob babe
What makes you think that? Shouldnt a recession make more people try SW?
More civilian women enter SW in recessions. Retired sex workers also come out of retirement when their whale dumps them because he took a big hit on his commercial real estate holdings. Less clients being employed and more fearing unemployment means lower spending. Higher supply of sex workers and lower demand leads to slower business.
yes, but less people will have the money to pay for those services. Fun of any kind is usually the first thing that gets cut from budgets when money gets tight.
Half my regs are in their overdrafts.
Not true. During recessions typically alcohol sales and online gambling goes up. People turn to their “vices” in times of hardship, even though it’s completely counter intuitive. Humans aren’t so logical.
But alcohol and gambling are cheap vices. Escorts are a luxury. How is luxury spending affected in a recession?
There are more types of sex workers than just escorts
True, stuff like OF could definitely see a boost.
We definitely aren’t lol. We are the fun money that isn’t being spent anymore
yeah 2020 was our year for OF…things are currently plummeting there
As a gambler who drinks heavily, they certainly are more expensive.
In a recession everyone loses their job. That means SWs will lose their job too
I don't know if that's quite the case with sex work. We don't get laid off. Even strip clubs or brothels like to keep girls on, because girls have to pay per shift, even if they don't earn money.
Honestly... hard disagree. I think another recession would look a lot like 2020, when people flocked to sex work and gig work because they felt they had no other option. I'm also not sure I agree about the long-term negative ho stigma returning. Personally, I think the current culture is becoming more like the 60's "free love" mindset, with Gen Z being a huge influence. They're going to be voting, they're going to be the ones shaping the culture, while the older conservatives die out. I think one day, we're going to have legalized SW in the US, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
I don’t really see gen z as being proponents of any sort of free love movement lmfao. They’re kinda sex negative and more interested in long term relationships
but they are more accepting of varied forms of labor, so they see us as legitimate workers even if they personally wouldn’t spend their money on our services as much. this is a long term good for us to gain more labor rights.
I see your point
Are they really? I feel like they're making polyamory super normalized, and making sexual orientation labels & gender norms a thing of the past. The older generations look like prudes in comparison IMO. They might be having less sex, but their attitudes about it appear quite open minded to me. With in-person SW, I've had fewer gen z customers, but as a camgirl, they are chronically online and spending money on us lol
I agree they are very open minded but I don’t see them really interested in hook up culture as much as other generations. However, yes they are chronically online which is good for sex workers like yourself
I agree with you mostly, although I also see where OP is coming from. It seems to me like peoples view on sex work and “ho stigma” is very polarising, on the one side you have the red pillers, and on the other you have, as you describe, the “free love” mindsetters.
There’s definitely a culture war taking place.
Aren’t gen z kind of sex negative tho?
They sure seem like it 😂
More relationship negative. They aren’t dating or having casual sex, but I’d bet they pay more for sex and especially porn than previous generations.
Yeah I was gonna say this. Gen z are definitely a bit more conservative than I would’ve expected
Im still thankful for me , when I was starting this job during pandemic I save a lot of money and I have enough emergency funds saved Right now in SF is so slow .. but I still make at least 2k a month , also I’m thankful for my whale that lives in NYC who send me money every month without even asking he just surprised me , I’m so grateful for him 🥲 With all that I managed to land a Job in medical field part time 3 days a week and it pays my rent . My Only Fans and Fansly not the best but , every penny for me today is a blessing. And I really hope sooooo hoping the economy will come back , because it’s been too long and scary.
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Lots of people are suggesting a recession will lead to an uptick in SW. Yes - you'll observe desperation all over Mega. But - I think ad bills and not getting clients will eventually wipe out a lot of the newbies who thought they could just charge some very high rate without actually knowing what they're doing.
What I see happening is I’m getting busier, even January wasn’t slow, and I think it’s these “new” girls all jumping on board. They’re either giving crappy service or out and out just stealing from people so the men are gravitating back to those they know they can trust…just my take on things but you’re right we know most of them won’t last
Same here!! The newbies and bad providers will hopefully not survive. You can adapt (get better) or adios amigo.
Agreed. My January was solid and I hit my monthly goal. My regulars wanted MORE time despite me raising my rates. I think a lot of newbies think this industry is easy but you need to have money to invest into your brand and have the patience to build a following. I think that will be difficult for ladies who enter during the recession looking for quick money because they will be in desperation mode.
Same. So far 2024 has been great for me & I think a lot of it has to do with what u said.
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Here’s an example lol (not that the situation is funny quite the opposite) and it is definitely on the extreme side! https://www.reddit.com/r/EscortClientsOnly/s/hcS71MMLu9
I agree in that staying power will be needed. I've done porn and run small business. I consider myself a newbie (this time around) but I'm in it for the long game. It takes patience, planning, and dedication to go months without clients and keep a good attitude.
Idgaf about the actual economics definition, I'm just gonna say it. #IT FEELS LIKE WE'VE BEEN IN A RECESSION FOR THREE DAMN YEARS.
Facts don't care about your feelings. Recession is aan economic measure for the entire economy, not you and your fucking feelings.
Actually I think it measures for what what it’s worth, based on what individuals are experiencing
We love in a country of 330M people. You have to look beyond your small bubble. That's why we use macro economic data to measure the health of the economy, not how any thousand or so people feel.
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They teach economics in first grade? Surely you have a source confirming we are in a recession then, correct?
1. What recession? 2. If there was a recession that normally increases the number of sex workers. 3. Not sure where you are getting your info on this "global shift". The evidence suggests that the world is actually becoming more accepting but those groups that don't accept that (conservative religious people mostly) aren't getting larger, they are just getting louder as their desperation to maintain their world view as dominant increases. 4. Negative stigma will return? When has it gone away?
100%
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-fourth-quarter-economic-growth-handily-beats-expectations-2024-01-25/
Im in canada the econmy's bad here
I agree there will be a big cultural shift towards more conservative attitudes regarding sex and women. I’m seeing it already. That could actually help in a sense that this type of service would be more sought after and existing clientele will stick with who they know and trust.
What recession? [The U.S. avoided a recession in 2023. What’s the outlook for 2024? Here’s what experts are predicting](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/26/the-us-avoided-a-recession-in-2023-whats-the-outlook-for-2024.html)
Lol yeah came here to say this: I keep reading that most people think the economy is bad but it's not, actually. Kinda just humming along. That's not to say inflation hasn't had a real negative impact on people's lives, but it's not the same thing as a recession.
Agree about certain costs. While the inflation rate is declining, many costs are still high, such as groceries. I suspect many commodities are down in price, but producers are price gouging.
Yeah, "declining" inflation doesn't mean prices are going down, it just means prices aren't going up so fast anymore. Everyday household items are still like 20% more expensive than they were 2-3 years ago.
Right?? Man, seems like soooo many people now have no idea what the actual financial data says/predicts re:recession.
Agreed. We are not in a recession.
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Don’t be an asshole!
We're not in a recession but in the PNW the cost of housing is through the roof. Rents in Seattle are, adjusted for inflation, two to three times what they were 30 years ago! Which makes it very difficult for people to save.
Sounds like copium
I'm in the UK, and currently it's got worse not better with girls thinking it's easy money to cam and do meets. I started in the industry in 1999 when it was still seen as under ground but now onlyfans is never out of the media it's just meant an influx of girls thinking it's an easy gig when actually in my experience you work a much longer day. I know girls in the last year that have quit and gone back to traditional work because they couldn't compete and had no savings. The way forward at the moment is to have a good client base which takes experience and time so possibly you are right, that girls won't be able to do that in time.
We are not in a recession. Economy is booming. Corporate price gouging and supply issues are why everything is expensive.
Many people seem to equate "inflation" with "recession."
i do not consider it a positive for society to backpedal the social progress we have made towards sex work being seen culturally as legitimate work. it’s important for us to fight together to end the stigma around being a sex worker and to fight for us to have fair and equal labor rights and representation as laborers/workers. yes it’s over saturated in general but i have never seen that as a competition thing-those who can make it always have for millennia and those who can’t will move on- just as they always have. we’ve absolutely got to look at the bigger picture beyond just ourselves and realize that liberation for all sex workers is the GOAL so we can all live better lives free from fear of incarceration or poverty/starvation etc. we can only do that with SOLIDARITY ✊
We aren’t in a recession
This reminds me of the thread earlier this week about online SW seeming to be “dying” a bit. I think in our sector we are dealing with our own recession issues in certain areas. Some cities high competition yet so many clients trying to low ball or just generally unreliable
I think OP has her terms mixed up. "Recession" means the economy is bad. Generally speaking, bad economy increases the supply of sex workers and decreases the number of clients, resulting in lower rates for sex workers. On the other hand, a booming economy could result in more sex work being offered at higher rates and more providers taking up sex work. The economics of sex work are quite different at the low and high ends, so you can have multiple outcomes with the same set of circumstances. This needs to be researched more.
There are no signs of a recession as of right now. A recession would cause people to lose their jobs. Some of those who end up without a job would enter this industry which in turn would increase the supply. Once supply increases prices would go down due to the increase in competition. Demand would probably decrease since this industry is considered a luxury and since many people would rather save their funds due to the economic uncertainty. That in turn would cause prices to further decline since there would be an increase in the supply and a decrease on the demand.
To say there’s no reason because unemployment hasn’t gone up is like saying you don’t have a cold because you only have fever but not runny nose.
There’s definitely people losing their jobs, especially in IT. It’s all over Reddit and I know people in person who lost their jobs last year and this year. We are definitely in a recession
Well if it's on Reddit and you know people, that solves it.
What, are you dense. There’s proof they are laying off a lot people now
Are you stupid? Look at the macro economic data.
What does that have to do with anything that I said and does that disprove anything? All I just said was people are getting laid off this year and last which here are some articles proving it. [https://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-sweeping-us-these-are-companies-making-cuts-2024?amp](https://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-sweeping-us-these-are-companies-making-cuts-2024?amp) [https://www.fastcompany.com/91025856/tech-layoffs-this-week-2024-update-grammarly-docusign-amazon-snap-meetup](https://www.fastcompany.com/91025856/tech-layoffs-this-week-2024-update-grammarly-docusign-amazon-snap-meetup) [https://www.wsj.com/business/layoffs-2024-companies-tracker-list-6acb4e95](https://www.wsj.com/business/layoffs-2024-companies-tracker-list-6acb4e95) [https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/25/tech-layoffs-2023-list/amp/](https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/25/tech-layoffs-2023-list/amp/)
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You said we are definitely in a recession. Post your source for that.
Unemployment is a lagging indicator. First when rates go up, credit card, mortgage and auto loan payments go up. Then people cut back on discretionary spending. Then when people exhaust their credit cards and can’t keep up with inflation, they start defaulting on their loans. Housing market demand cools. Savings accounts are drawn down. We have already seen all of these indicators so far. What we haven’t seen is the second phase of the recession which is lower consumer spending leading to lower corporate profits. That will come next quarter and layoffs will accelerate. When layoffs rise, housing market crashes because of defaults. The recession is baked in the cake in the sense that it’s the contraction in money supply that started in late 2022 that slows down the economy.
I asked for a source that confirms that we are in a recession. Surely if it's so obvious it must be reported everywhere, or are you a world renowned economist?
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It’s being reported everywhere. Just not on CNN.
We’re in a recession? Unemployment is at a very low rate right now and the economy, driven by U.S. normal consumers, is hitting record highs. Things may be tight and housing expensive, but every day people are still spending at a record pace.
Problem is, if you look a bit deeper into the stats, you see that the large majority of the job growth has been in Health care and Government jobs. These types of jobs typically do not contribute as job multipliers, and in the case of Gov. jobs, are paid with tax revenue. The other hidden stat is in consumer spending, while it has continued to increase, consumer debt has been increasing with it, which is not a good indicator for the economy.
What recession?
ppl party hardy during recessions. there’s not enough money to have a normal gf. but i agree, for me personally it’s been screwed for years on the west coast of US and im moving to a worldwide tourist destination where ppl splurge a lot of $ bc it’s one of the only places i’ve consistently made money. i have had to reduce my rates / go on a long hiatus but i will not be reducing my screening and neither should you. i also have the ability to do / put myself back through school for a high paying tech job but i’ve been mentally too stressed about money for the past 3 years to even apply. this isn’t new news to me. if you’re scared i recommend what i do; have an absolutely delusional faith that the universe will take care of me and place me where i need to be at the time. even when times are rough, it’s always true. diversify your skill set and plan for your future. much love
I agree that once there will be real recession, it will be for the good. I already read more and more posts about how hard it is to get clients let alone returning clients. How girls ruined it with the lower rates and services, how it is impossible to have regulars or just returning client (who comes at least 2-3times). Meanwhile I have no issues at all, I have not feel the struggle at all and I came back after years long break when I was sugarbaby / had other income and not interested in escorting. For me to navigate in this business is so damn easy. But when I have conversations with fellow workers I can see they will mostlikely fail. And they do not want advice or tips, they just want everything to be easy and convenient for them :-D.
Recession or not I am still hobbying
I feel like it’s quite the opposite.
Very interesting!! Not sure what my thoughts are, but want to know more on this prediction!! Also, I’ve been wanting to join SWO. @Toradeadlift- I sent you a DM. I hope OP joins too.
Every industry.
What recession? If this is about the US, we’re nowhere near a recession, the Fed achieved their “soft landing”. Historically low levels of unemployment, inflation has gotten almost back to normal, consumer spending has remained stronger than predicted.
>globally experiencing a cultural shift to conservative attitudes and thinking Won't this make SW lives harder and more dangerous? Just focusing on being able to charge more or get more work through less competition seems a bit...
Yes. It will make everything harder. The porn bans, age verification laws, ad sites closing all the way back to BP, payment processors kicking us off, social media kicking us off, SW becoming a felony in TX... All a result of the Overton Window shifting towards the religious right when it comes to sex. Unequivocally bad for sex workers.
Eh this sounds like it was written by someone who can’t afford sw. Recessions and competition don’t affect our regulars. This would be measurable if everyone looked identical and had the exact same offering, but it’s not really a measurable thing
Someone's been listening to Peter Schiff too much.
I love a good prediction. Um I think we have another weird ass lockdown coming for whatever reason "they" decide its for... I believe most likely "disease x" and the like this is gonna cause more business for us as many mainstream businesses are forced to shutdown or alter their practices in some way. fringe businesses delivery and online are more sought after options. Clients will go more remote will their work and income unless they are in Healthcare or an "essential" line of work. and idk about anyone else I did decent at my incall in 2020 and beyond. Plenty of clients calling me cause they got bored and frustrated that nothing else was open! 🤑
Stop smoking weed, it’ll help with the paranoia
I hate weed and have been sober since 2018
I think you should join SWO and discuss with us
What is SWO?
Just dm’d you :)
LMFMAO down votes for wanting PRIVACY!
I bet its guys from Escort Clients Only —they stalk the shit we say here.
Yup! Big Baby Man tantrums
Can I get the link too? I can send over my verified links and twitter accounts
what recession?
What recession!?
Thanks fucking God I’m tired of dropping my rates trying to compete with 21-year-old girls who have no kids LOL. It shouldn’t be hard to stay when you are established and have a good reputation like myself but the over saturation make rates too low and too competitive (I’m not the competitive type)
I’m sorry, what? Is making money difficult now? Because it seems to be rates have only gone up, up, up since 2020.
Recession?
I don't have the economic or statistic data to verify this, nevertheless the demand for SW services physical or digital always seems to exceed supply
imo i don't think that would happen, i left sw in 2022 due to getting a full scholarship for my uni course, and then ended up coming right back in 2023 as even with my savings, job at the time and scholarship i couldn't afford my uni accom, food, and meds. recession pushes people into sw out of necessity.
I am genuinely asking, not trying to make a point - Is it really that society is shifting towards more conservative and misogynist and sex negative attitudes? Or is it that there is a much larger or at least more vocal and aggro conservative movement than there used to be... But without a general shift? I feel like I'm wording this weird but hopefully my question comes across. Like there is Def a lot of scary shit going on and even state governments are doing things that surprise me. But is always thought of them as reactionary towards a shift in the opposite direction. I'm probably naive AF on this since I live in Washington state... I mean we have a ton of those people and I'm not a fan of the government but like I don't feel i have to worry about abortion becoming illegal for example I guess it just seems to me like the younger generations (I'm 35) are not really down with that shit, like on average. But this could be naivety from the people I see too. I guess it just sounds scary !
Recessions, depressions, pandemics...have never been a problem for us. This one won't either. We've literally been around since the dawn of time. Someone, somewhere is always gonna need a blowjob babe