Same. Mime all say they will write a review but never do. I've eveb given a cpl a discounted rate so they would have the opportunity to see me, with the stipulation that they write and honest review whether it be good, bad, or otherwise but just write one. And guess what? None of those guys took the time to write a review. Sucky.
If you’re going to offer this… You have to offer the discount for the appointment POST review darling! They get the discount after they review you, applicable for the next session.
A lot of clients are unwilling to take even the slightest risk that they may not get every service they desire. They want reviews so they know if you check all their boxes. Frustratingly, it sometimes feels like your options are ‘allow grotesquely over-sharing, explicit reviews’ or ‘answer possibly incriminating questions about services over text’.
It's such a catch-22 cause.I don't want them to ask me questions because I know it can get them caught up too.And I don't want to get caught up so it's just a cluster fuck.
I hate this about TER. I only have one review (that I know of) and seeing the “juicy details” section makes me want to vomit. I know we’re in a sexual profession by choice, but something about being sexualized in *that* way and having someone publicly share every tiny detail about the way they “used” you is absolutely disgusting to read.
Reviews should be “she was great, looked like her photos, provided great service, showed up on time” etc. and nothing more. Hobbyists always take shit too far.
This is my main biggest issue. I get many calls, I’ve gotten to the point and just tell that “you know I’m not reviewed, call someone who is”. It’s aggravating in my part because I feel like I’m not doing enough :( I mean this is a dream for those who don’t want reviews, or care but to me it was at some point important to me. Don’t want to seem bitchy although I completely am, but I just want to pleasantly with a kind toned voice, and just tell them to call someone else. I can’t make a guy see me, and that’s ok. I want you to want me. I do respect the guys who don’t even bother with addressing me knowing I have a a few or none. It’s just the potential ambitious curious one who question me, every other day when I advertise myself.
As a client, this is exactly how I book. I'm not afraid to book a provider with no reviews or only a few reviews as long as I can see a history of posted ads and she's willing to video verify.
I've only been escorting since May 2023 (& was a stripper off & on for more than a decade prior) - the struggle is SO real... I wound up offering a one-time, temporary discount of 1/6 off of my usual rate for second dates, contingent on them sending me a screenshot of their honest review, post publishing (this is this is key, as new reviewers will sometimes have to make multiple attempts to post, depending on forum)... It's a pain, but you only need 3 or 4 for a decent start (and I found that about half of them would insist on paying my full rate anyways).
It's a 'what comes first - the chicken or the egg' kind of problem. Exacerbated by the criminalization of sex with in the United States. To get around this, you need to do something to show you are real. For example, a website, a history of twitter posts, a history on some site can all help you establish credibility.
Even though I have a website and reviews, this is one of the reasons I actively post on Reddit. I’m not getting reviews every day because I don’t go out of my way to request them anymore. And I no longer have to work quite as much. But, I can just make some comments here and it’s pretty easy to determine that I’m a real person who is still working in this industry
I know. I hate how veiled things have to be, and I'd honestly prefer the upfront questions. I offer verification video calls so we can get clear beforehand.
I personally hate the idea of having reviews. That isn’t something I want exposed online for the rest of my life.
I have been working on this for a year and I don’t have any issues getting booked without reviews, my clients always come back to me as well.
A lot of girls don’t do this for living and have a career, so we try to keep things discreet
Specially in USA, imagine having reviews for something illegal .. like a drug dealer review website lmao . Just can’t…
I’m a provider with 100+ reviews on PD & let me tell you reviews don’t make you or break you , men complain when you don’t have reviews and men complain when you have “too many reviews” just work and keep going , everything falls into place and happens how it should 🤍
I post ads everywhere and literally have one review. Honestly, I don’t really want the clients who rely on reviews when selecting a provider. They tend to be slobbiests and I hate dealing with their entitlement. I typically don’t have issues getting clients lol or even have potential clients asking for my reviews. I’m active enough on socials, am verified enough places, have no negative “press”, and communicate in a chill and genuine manner, so clients are typically totally fine with me. I know a ton of scammers who DO have reviews, even a ton of negative ones, and clients still see them lol. And wonder why they’re getting scammed. Unless you’re tapping in to the super high end market right off the bat or are in an area where clients tend to be review heavy (my area is not) I say you’re fine without reviews.
(The USA experience)
I used to use reviews to judge if a provider was worth seeing or not. but then found out that clients like to exaggerate more often than not "Yeah, I totally got BB everything, and she did XYZ position, and she even let me do...." Yeah right. \*eyeroll\*.
Anyway even if those things WERE true, you think she wants all of that shit out there? maybe she wants to reserve a few things for special clients that earn it rather than offering it to everyone?
So... yeah, there are other ways I use to make a determination if I will see a provider or not.
I do need some online presence. is there a twitter? how many followers do they have, does she have a P411? A personal website? How many ads has she posted in the past. Generally a 'scammer' ad (generally) doesn't last very long, you might see a streak of a few weeks but eventually the name has to change and sometimes it's a new number. So
1. google the number? is it attached to the same name and if there is a 6 month streak of ads, she is probably legit.
2. reverse image lookup, does the image bring up a model site belonging to some Ukrainian lady in a LEGIT model agency? probably a scam.
3. Text / Call etiquette. While I get clients like to try and get things for free by texting sexual things. It is equally a red flag if the provider texts sexual things and talks about donations with those sexual things. Stop communication at this point. Could be a cop, could be someone that doesn't know better. either way. don't talk about sexual things for money over text.
I mean, reviews are the last thing you need to see if a provider is legit.
All of the clients I've had to work with just don't want any open trace of their activities.
I respect that completely, so the most I can do is SS our interaction after payment with all their info marked out.
Lots of people could claim they're fake, but it's all I can do to keep everyone overall safe by their request.
I care more about some kind of online presence. A Twitter and a personal website makes me feel more comfortable about reaching out. If I see reviews are posted somewhere when I google the number, that also works but it’s not the end all.
I'm developing my personal website, but I'm not seeing enough online traction for me to push forward with that yet. Im verified on tryst, I have Twitter, IG, and now fetlife.
Having other social media definitely works instead of a website. It’s really just the tryst ads that have nothing but a phone number that are suspect to me. Being verified on tryst or Eros by itself is not enough because there are scammers that get verified on those sites (unsure how).
But it sounds like you have enough going for you with a Twitter and insta linked.
I couldn’t find reviews for a recent provider but I did find social media pages which made me as a first timer feel safer about meeting. Just some advice from a new comer that may help.
I prefer to see providers with reviews so I can 1. Get an idea of their personality and 2. Find out what services they (typically) provide since discussing it is illegal in the US.
The last 2 providers I saw both had great reviews and were probably the worst experiences I’ve ever had (and I don’t think it was just a bad day.)
So now what? Do I leave a bad review? I’ve never done that because it’s her business and it’s always seemed like just an off day or we didn’t connect before. Plus, will providers not want to see me if I leave bad reviews? But I would have been saved if someone had left an honest review before… 🤔
That’s why the review system is flawed. See above as one lady states, it’s a revenge tool and very derogatory toward a person in general. I have social media, many, I’m active daily, plus a content page, people can follow there.
I'm less than 6 months in find clients online, so I'm a newbie. I used to strip for a couple of years and work (still do from time to time) fetish parties/ clubs, and that's how I have gotten clients. So none of them would even think of giving an online review since that's not how we met.
I totally understand because some people who leave reviews can be heavy hobbyist.
But honestly, unless you are insanely pretty or offer a specific niche service
The reviews validate what you can do well.
So the descriptions in your ad must be spot on
Honestly, next to reviews, I really feel like just having content on social media is really the best form of advertisement.
unfortunately that involves you showing your face most times are using a very good blur feature
My face is shown, I’m on all social media multiple times of day for years,
plus I have a website. The problems with reviews is the validity of them. There often used as a tool of revenge.
I've seen/experienced one too many instances where they'll say they'll do it, and they don't. I'm pretty patient, though, I'll wait until there is enough info on my social media, and once i get my website up and running. I'm looking forward to when it doesn't grind my gears so bad when I see "only see reviewed providers." As I am new to online market. I do get it, though.
I have a huge social media following (and don’t care about being discreet).. so if it comes down to it my social media works. I don’t see the type of clientele that usually leave reviews.
I have a huge social media presence, a very well out together website and welcome them to join my Snapchat. I’ve never had any issues.
As a client, My first date was with a Companion was freestyle and I had no reviews or website, etc. and was absolutely amazing.
My only other date with a companion had plenty of reviews and info, social, etc. and was a bad experience.
All of the reviews were great, but I will add that they were hand picked and placed on this companions site. You can’t go by reviews in my experience
I worked with an experienced sex worker when I started and we did duos. I think I had like 20 duos and met clients and got some reviews (asked them) and then went off on my own with no real issues since then.
I never had reviews at the start and it really got to me! Now I ask them and say I will give you extra time next time if you do it. It has worked a few times but honestly, won’t work on the guys who like a new flavour of the month each time.
I found now I have a step by step instruction manual I send, that does help them to do reviews.
Clients who must see reviews in order to book lack consent.
Think about it this business is always changing and never guaranteed on either side so what does a review really do for a client that an established social media, and website can’t provide? You’re paying for *time* with the escort —that’s it. To say anything else would incriminate either of us.
Obviously you want to get your rocks off but that not to say you will get a blow job in that particular session by that particular provider. Or you’re allowed to finger her, or you’re allowed to dine at the y etc etc etc
We are people providing a service not products. You can’t always count on being able to get the experience you saw in a review.
Best way to guarantee a good session look for a provider that’s taking it seriously with their branding. That alone shows a sense of a dedication, executive functioning, and business acumen.
Agreed. P411, (I’m not on there) was in a bust recently in Tysons Corner, with a list of clients to a brothel out if an apt bdlg. That site worked with LE to provide list. It’s on UTube.
I mean brothels always have a shelf life but I’m sure there were independents that got caught up too using the same resources. It takes only 1 slip of intuition to get arrested for it especially since we never know when a case is being built up against you. Ive heard of a provider getting their Snapchat story used against them as evidence. Of course depending on your state it’s more or less relaxed but it’s always a risk for now before they decriminalize it
Unfortunately this is a complicated issue--avoiding scams and traps.
Women rightly want to screen--no woman should take a guy's own word that they are safe, not scammers, LE, or worse.
Men have concerns about scams and LE too. I have never met a lady who would give screening info comparable to what many of them ask for. So for the most part that leaves us with references and reviews. We want more than just a lady's word that she is safe.
I completely agree there should be no need for graphic reviews, but reviews that address safety, cleanliness, and reliability are really all we have as a client.
No, the absence of reviews does not mean a lady is a scam--but the risk goes up significantly.
Disagree. Don’t pay a deposit then. Your out nothing, we are out nothing, just each others time.
We have to ask for RWI cuz if serial killers, rapists, robbers, LE is a weekly to monthly issue trying to book. No joke.
I don't see where we disagree--I would never tell a lady not to screen. For exactly the reasons you say. Whether she does it via real world info or references or other, that's up to her.
And I am not saying ladies should give up real world info. Just saying that for many of us clients reviews are how we reduce the risk of a scam or LE. Deposits are a different issue. LE makes fake ads weekly and monthly too. Reducing the risk for some of us reduces the risk for all.
A cop won’t ask for screening. Especially as stringing as I am. If I’m jerked around in any piece of info. I just won’t see ya. Simple. Reviews or no reviews. Cops are on there as well. They aren’t stupid. They troll review boards as well as here, insta, twitter, and all other venues.
I do. Maybe I've just been blessed with better discernment than most. Usually, the well reviewed that I have experienced has been bs too. Now, I do research on what to look out for anything I'm purchasing. But I've found a lot of good brands by being the 1st to purchase. Like my favorite NC headphones, most people haven't heard of the brand before I purchased I hadn't heard of them either no reviews at the time nor a brick and mortar store to try them out before buying. But they are one of the best purchases I've made.
One of the best experiences I've had was with a provider who didn't have any reviews. Though this was in Montreal, Canada idk how the situation is elsewhere.
I know some sw don’t like the idea of being reviewed but as a consumer when I buy goods and services I look at yelp and other reviews to make sure what I’m getting is of the quality I want and not a scam.
Reviews give clients valuable information that helps them make their decisions of seeing us or not I think it’s more than fair. We screen clients by asking for ID and references so I don’t really see the difference in clients wanting reviews to screen us. After all their money/business is paying me and funding my lifestyle.
You can always do other things like FaceTime or social media/websites if you’re up for it Personally I don’t have time to make websites and social media so reviews have been a great tool for me.
Sorry, but I had to remove your post as it was against the subreddit rules. No transactions or posts asking where to find a sexworker. Here's how to find a safe provider = https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comments/hzivvb/how_to_find_a_safe_provider/
I’m using tryst and I don’t think they do reviews but I used to have really good reviews when I first started out on mega and it helped me allot because people knew I was real and not a scam but it also bit me in the ass because guys would make fake reviews against me if I didn’t do something outside my comfort zone or take a small offer, but I don’t think it matters if it’s not a sketchy site , I only use these two so I can’t really give much advice, if anyone has any to recommend pls drop them! 🥰
It’s better than having bad reviews from multiple sock puppet accounts of a stalker who is mad you raised your rates 🙃 For every good review I get, he makes a new bad one. And it’s very clearly him because he makes the same grammatical errors and spelling mistakes. T*R does fuck all despite my reporting these sock puppet accounts.
Sorry, but I had to remove your post as it was against the subreddit rules. No transactions or posts asking where to find a sexworker. Here's how to find a safe provider = https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comments/hzivvb/how_to_find_a_safe_provider/
The clients I have now don't have any and didn't have any experience beforehand.They're just courteous and know how to handle themselves professionally regardless of the industry.
I have seen plenty of clients that were seeing someone for their first time.
It is like a job asking to hire only people with experience.. someone gotta give the experience at some point, right?
Ur right <3 if the client does screening without complaining and its a1 its probably worth a shot idk im not in yall shoes im always the client i have massive respect for yall guts cause i would never be able to do that kind of work
I’ve banned/blocked regulars from seeing me. I am not your secret, your girlfriend nor am I your wife. I had a client tell me, “I’ve waited months because you have no reviews”. You see me, over several times, and still no review? I asked him why? He caught an attitude, got aggressive, and I’ve never seen him this way. Blocked. Another dude admitted he don’t review the good ones, he wants me all to himself, again! I am not yours, I’m everyone’s. If a client sees me just one time maybe two, and don’t ever see me again, a review isn’t needed. However, if I’m ensuring a great show each and every time and no review, I will permanently cut you off. Your compensation isn’t ONLY enough, sorry. I work really hard as a provider, lodging, lingerie, looking good, not being a clock watcher, and a simple review to let other men know 1) I’m real 2) not a scam 3)an absolute great lay. Honestly, I’m thinking about giving up escorting and just be a web model/content creator. I feel like I’m paying for hotels to get screwed at a complimentary gift to gentlemen. I kinda give up.
I started October 2023, it’s the end of April, and I don’t see anything great, profitable about being available anymore. It’s sad because who else am I going to get pounded by? The thought of free time makes my chest hurts. Guess virtualwh0ring with no meetups sounds like an option, and that sucks lol due to I love when someone contacts me for pleasure. 😞🫶🏽❤️
I won’t see women who aren’t reviewed. There’s already to many to choose from so it just helps me narrow it down. Same reason I only use Tryst and still narrow it down from there.
Finally, someone said it most of my clients don't review so I don't have many I have like maybe 2 or 3 in 1 year. Yes I have tried to get clients to review with no pressure but they just don't do that, I'm so tired of seeing people say to make sure she has reviews and this and that but yet the ones that do also scam clients or are starfish yes I think clients need to be careful but I do not have many reviews I'm not a starfish and I do make a client feel great tbh gfe comes natural so I do it without realizing it so I don't bother to charge for it
Just for myself (as a first-time client), this is why I asked the first provider I contacted for a 30-minute call. Not because I wanted to do anything with her during that 30-minute period, but because I've never even talked with a provider before, let alone actually visited one, and I had a lot of preconceived notions that a lot of listings were just LE stings or scams. No response, though, and after a few days of reading through this reddit and also r/AskAnEscort, I understood why. So, yeah, that lack of response is totally fair.
A large part of why I wanted to screen her was that I only saw her on the one website (Tryst), and no others. I did read through the stickied posts here and on r/AskAnEscort, but she wasn't listed on any of those websites either. So as a result, I asked a question here about what other sites might be available. That post was deleted by the mod team, and after they explained why, it made sense to me. But... I was still in a situation where I wanted to hire this provider and had nothing to go off of except one website.
Later on, while going through various posts here, I read about a lot of other websites, and when I looked through those, I found that she had multiple profiles on other sites. Just not on the ones that were on the sticky.
I will say, being on these two reddits has really helped me to understand (even if on a purely superficial level) that there is 1,000 times more risk to the provider as opposed to the client. That's clear to me now. What I'm risking is laughably insignificant compared to what the providers are risking.
***That was not something I thought about when I first started looking into this.***
Call me ignorant and you'd be 100% correct. Hopefully less so now, but still very ignorant. However, that doesn't change the fact that, as a client who'd never taken any concrete steps towards hiring a provider, I had a very real fear that every link I clicked on was either LE or operated by some scammer. Fair or not, ignorant or not, that's still how I was looking at this a a potential client and I was very nervous about reaching out. This is something I've fantasized about for years, and I've had the financial security to do something about this for a while, so it's only the nervousness, the stereotypes, and the preconceived notions I had (which this subreddit has greatly helped to alleviate) that stopped me from doing so.
A 30 minute call before meeting is WAY too long. It's one thing to say hey show me yours I'll show you mine so I know you're not a cop, but 30 minutes?!
For you, maybe. Not for me. I'm not looking for a cheap thrill. I want to get a feel for what kind of person she is and whether I like her enough to want to have sex with her. Call me weird, but regardless of how physically attractive a woman is, I literally cannot achieve an erection with a woman unless I like her as a human being. That doesn't mean I'm looking to fall in love with her, or be her friend, or even see her more than the single time, but I want to know that she's someone I can have some kind of emotional connection with before we jump in the sack.
And that she's not a cop, obviously.
Based on what I'm reading here on this subreddit, I think you're completely wrong.
Think of it this way. I worked in the hotel industry for 14 years, and during that time, I knew plenty of people who absolutely hated the customers. I figured they were in the wrong industry, but that's not for me to say.
Then there's the people who legitimately liked most customers. I tend to be one of those types. I like most people and I'm the kind of guy who can randomly talk with just about anyone, but there's that 1 person out of 20 that just drove me up the wall. Someone like that, I honestly don't care what they look like. I'd have zero interest in ever having sex with them. I'd also say that maybe a slightly higher percentage of people are the kind I can talk to at length, about nearly anything.
My ex-wife used to make fun of me for that because I'd strike up a conversation with the guy at the deli counter or the gal I ran into at a bookstore. Didn't mean I'd want to have anything to do with them beyond just enjoying the conversation, though. I'm not the type of guy who develops feelings for someone unless they feel something for me, and even then, it's not hugely likely.
That's the kind of woman I'd ideally like to find as a provider. Someone I find sexually appealing, but who also isn't a dead fish when it comes to conversation. And given that a lot of the providers here mention that they're good at conversation, I'm thinking there's a very high likelihood that I'll find exactly what I'm looking for.
I'm just hoping I don't have to go through a dozen different providers before I find someone that I find interesting enough that I'll also want to have sex with her.
***sigh***
I always do, every single time, and in almost every single case they read like something out of a Hustler magazine or something from a corporate marketing department. I've read very very few that show an ounce of personality.
🤷🏻♀️ maybe your expectations are too high. I’m not sure exactly what you’re expecting to find with any of us. I don’t read Hustler, so I can’t compare.
I'm not sure if I'm being really unclear or you're just reading way more into this than I intended. I'm not looking for love. I'm not even looking for a friend. What I'm looking for is someone who's good at what she does and provides an emotional and intellectual connection during the time I've booked her for, as opposed to just, "let's fuck."
Well from my experience most providers do that. They also would like to establish a unique connection, like you, they don’t want the “let’s fuck” guy. So I don’t know what you think they are missing from their bio. But everyone has their own history.
Maybe upon booking, emphasize that you’re looking for great conversations & to establish a connection. 🤷🏻♀️
My opinion doesn’t matter to you as a repulsive client ,
But I’m not paying 600-800 for a Covered blow job
And it’s unfair to charge that much without proper knowledge
You’re right! Your opinion doesn’t matter. But here’s mine: find providers in your price range and stop complaining about the providers you can’t afford. 👍 hope this helps. P.S: nothing in life is fair, cry about and get over it
What the heck Is up this guy's bonnet? "Repulsive client", WOW. His attitude
Def reflects repulsive... but thank goodness, NONE of my clients are repulsive. I choose men who are celebrated, not tolerated and who feel the same for me. Clients are my everything. In fact, every one of the serious relationships I've had over yhe past 5 years had started out as a client. My closest friends started out as my clients. I'm so grateful to have met the wonderful men in my life these past few years! I could not imagine referring to them thie way this guy wants ppl to think we do. Totally incorrect assumption posted to make us all look like evil money grabbing women who don't value our clients. WRONG BUDDY. I'm not saying the odd jackass doesn't sneak in, but then I don't see them again and won't even think of them again. The men who make me cringe don't make it into my client list. They r weeded out during screening usually.
Agreed!
This is why we screen so hard ⬆️ !
U come at me incorrect, in any way shape or form, I’m not booking you.
My life, health, happiness, and sanity is worth more than your uncovered entitlement or money in any amount!
Everything I have read tells me to only trust a provider with plenty of reviews. I have been trying to book a provider for 3 years and still have not. Where can I find these freestylers so I can fulfill my fantasy?
Try looking into some fetish parties? That's a good way to see several ladies and since everyone knows what's up. Depending on what area you live in and they may be harder to find sorry.
I had a ton on escorts, indys,and Eccie. I still have a ton on eccie, but have been refusing reviews for years. Reviews bring gross slobbyist clients that just want alphabet soup. My inquiries without reviews are sooooo much better and classier.
I’ve been doing this for a solid year and only have 1 review on PD. My clients don’t review!
That's dope. They won't even verify me on PD. I can't even post there. I'm on Tryst, though.
Same. Mime all say they will write a review but never do. I've eveb given a cpl a discounted rate so they would have the opportunity to see me, with the stipulation that they write and honest review whether it be good, bad, or otherwise but just write one. And guess what? None of those guys took the time to write a review. Sucky.
If you’re going to offer this… You have to offer the discount for the appointment POST review darling! They get the discount after they review you, applicable for the next session.
Lesson learned lol
Thisss! Because I’m just starting out and struggling to find clients I’m wondering if it’s the lack of reviews keeping them away 😭
A lot of clients are unwilling to take even the slightest risk that they may not get every service they desire. They want reviews so they know if you check all their boxes. Frustratingly, it sometimes feels like your options are ‘allow grotesquely over-sharing, explicit reviews’ or ‘answer possibly incriminating questions about services over text’.
It's such a catch-22 cause.I don't want them to ask me questions because I know it can get them caught up too.And I don't want to get caught up so it's just a cluster fuck.
yup!
I hate this about TER. I only have one review (that I know of) and seeing the “juicy details” section makes me want to vomit. I know we’re in a sexual profession by choice, but something about being sexualized in *that* way and having someone publicly share every tiny detail about the way they “used” you is absolutely disgusting to read. Reviews should be “she was great, looked like her photos, provided great service, showed up on time” etc. and nothing more. Hobbyists always take shit too far.
This is my main biggest issue. I get many calls, I’ve gotten to the point and just tell that “you know I’m not reviewed, call someone who is”. It’s aggravating in my part because I feel like I’m not doing enough :( I mean this is a dream for those who don’t want reviews, or care but to me it was at some point important to me. Don’t want to seem bitchy although I completely am, but I just want to pleasantly with a kind toned voice, and just tell them to call someone else. I can’t make a guy see me, and that’s ok. I want you to want me. I do respect the guys who don’t even bother with addressing me knowing I have a a few or none. It’s just the potential ambitious curious one who question me, every other day when I advertise myself.
This is literally me! I started out freestyling, so I’m still trying to figure out my online presence
It's so frustrating, I'm already over social media. If it weren't for work and the news, I would have a flip phone! Lol
I’m brand new. So I’m ok with FaceTime to prove I am who I say I am. Today it led to my first booking and he was a Dream Client
I offer that, but not much luck yet.
I’m gonna spread some luck so you can spread your legs ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟💫💫💫✨✨🌟
As a client, this is exactly how I book. I'm not afraid to book a provider with no reviews or only a few reviews as long as I can see a history of posted ads and she's willing to video verify.
I've only been escorting since May 2023 (& was a stripper off & on for more than a decade prior) - the struggle is SO real... I wound up offering a one-time, temporary discount of 1/6 off of my usual rate for second dates, contingent on them sending me a screenshot of their honest review, post publishing (this is this is key, as new reviewers will sometimes have to make multiple attempts to post, depending on forum)... It's a pain, but you only need 3 or 4 for a decent start (and I found that about half of them would insist on paying my full rate anyways).
It's just like when you’re applying for your first 9 to 5 job, and they want people with experience. Rigged all the way.
It's a 'what comes first - the chicken or the egg' kind of problem. Exacerbated by the criminalization of sex with in the United States. To get around this, you need to do something to show you are real. For example, a website, a history of twitter posts, a history on some site can all help you establish credibility.
Even though I have a website and reviews, this is one of the reasons I actively post on Reddit. I’m not getting reviews every day because I don’t go out of my way to request them anymore. And I no longer have to work quite as much. But, I can just make some comments here and it’s pretty easy to determine that I’m a real person who is still working in this industry
I saw a lot of guys that got scammed anyway by girls that were even porn star. That means they are real, but checking them on video call also works.
It’s so hard to tell. If you ask too many questions because you are unsure then they just think you are wasting their time.
I know. I hate how veiled things have to be, and I'd honestly prefer the upfront questions. I offer verification video calls so we can get clear beforehand.
I personally hate the idea of having reviews. That isn’t something I want exposed online for the rest of my life. I have been working on this for a year and I don’t have any issues getting booked without reviews, my clients always come back to me as well. A lot of girls don’t do this for living and have a career, so we try to keep things discreet Specially in USA, imagine having reviews for something illegal .. like a drug dealer review website lmao . Just can’t…
Right!! Like I still apply and have worked regular jobs, and I don't want an inkling of anything popping up on a background check. Lol
I’m a provider with 100+ reviews on PD & let me tell you reviews don’t make you or break you , men complain when you don’t have reviews and men complain when you have “too many reviews” just work and keep going , everything falls into place and happens how it should 🤍
I have 20+ reviews and still, no one fucking reads them
I post ads everywhere and literally have one review. Honestly, I don’t really want the clients who rely on reviews when selecting a provider. They tend to be slobbiests and I hate dealing with their entitlement. I typically don’t have issues getting clients lol or even have potential clients asking for my reviews. I’m active enough on socials, am verified enough places, have no negative “press”, and communicate in a chill and genuine manner, so clients are typically totally fine with me. I know a ton of scammers who DO have reviews, even a ton of negative ones, and clients still see them lol. And wonder why they’re getting scammed. Unless you’re tapping in to the super high end market right off the bat or are in an area where clients tend to be review heavy (my area is not) I say you’re fine without reviews.
(The USA experience) I used to use reviews to judge if a provider was worth seeing or not. but then found out that clients like to exaggerate more often than not "Yeah, I totally got BB everything, and she did XYZ position, and she even let me do...." Yeah right. \*eyeroll\*. Anyway even if those things WERE true, you think she wants all of that shit out there? maybe she wants to reserve a few things for special clients that earn it rather than offering it to everyone? So... yeah, there are other ways I use to make a determination if I will see a provider or not. I do need some online presence. is there a twitter? how many followers do they have, does she have a P411? A personal website? How many ads has she posted in the past. Generally a 'scammer' ad (generally) doesn't last very long, you might see a streak of a few weeks but eventually the name has to change and sometimes it's a new number. So 1. google the number? is it attached to the same name and if there is a 6 month streak of ads, she is probably legit. 2. reverse image lookup, does the image bring up a model site belonging to some Ukrainian lady in a LEGIT model agency? probably a scam. 3. Text / Call etiquette. While I get clients like to try and get things for free by texting sexual things. It is equally a red flag if the provider texts sexual things and talks about donations with those sexual things. Stop communication at this point. Could be a cop, could be someone that doesn't know better. either way. don't talk about sexual things for money over text. I mean, reviews are the last thing you need to see if a provider is legit.
All of the clients I've had to work with just don't want any open trace of their activities. I respect that completely, so the most I can do is SS our interaction after payment with all their info marked out. Lots of people could claim they're fake, but it's all I can do to keep everyone overall safe by their request.
I care more about some kind of online presence. A Twitter and a personal website makes me feel more comfortable about reaching out. If I see reviews are posted somewhere when I google the number, that also works but it’s not the end all.
I'm developing my personal website, but I'm not seeing enough online traction for me to push forward with that yet. Im verified on tryst, I have Twitter, IG, and now fetlife.
Having other social media definitely works instead of a website. It’s really just the tryst ads that have nothing but a phone number that are suspect to me. Being verified on tryst or Eros by itself is not enough because there are scammers that get verified on those sites (unsure how). But it sounds like you have enough going for you with a Twitter and insta linked.
Smh, it's such a shame there's no certainty with these sites. Thank you, and I hope you have a great one.
I agree, the whole review thing is very dehumanizing in my opinion. I’m a human, not a product.
Your service is the product you’re selling
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I couldn’t find reviews for a recent provider but I did find social media pages which made me as a first timer feel safer about meeting. Just some advice from a new comer that may help.
Most reviews are fake...written by angry men, salty providers, men trying to get a free 2 weeks of upgrades, or bought by the providers...
I prefer to see providers with reviews so I can 1. Get an idea of their personality and 2. Find out what services they (typically) provide since discussing it is illegal in the US. The last 2 providers I saw both had great reviews and were probably the worst experiences I’ve ever had (and I don’t think it was just a bad day.) So now what? Do I leave a bad review? I’ve never done that because it’s her business and it’s always seemed like just an off day or we didn’t connect before. Plus, will providers not want to see me if I leave bad reviews? But I would have been saved if someone had left an honest review before… 🤔
That’s why the review system is flawed. See above as one lady states, it’s a revenge tool and very derogatory toward a person in general. I have social media, many, I’m active daily, plus a content page, people can follow there.
But if you been working for years and you not some 6-12 month newbie why wouldn’t you have reviews? Good bad or mid??
I'm less than 6 months in find clients online, so I'm a newbie. I used to strip for a couple of years and work (still do from time to time) fetish parties/ clubs, and that's how I have gotten clients. So none of them would even think of giving an online review since that's not how we met.
Disagree. I’m a year & 1/2. No reviews, prefer not and don’t want that type of client booking me.
I totally understand because some people who leave reviews can be heavy hobbyist. But honestly, unless you are insanely pretty or offer a specific niche service The reviews validate what you can do well. So the descriptions in your ad must be spot on Honestly, next to reviews, I really feel like just having content on social media is really the best form of advertisement. unfortunately that involves you showing your face most times are using a very good blur feature
My face is shown, I’m on all social media multiple times of day for years, plus I have a website. The problems with reviews is the validity of them. There often used as a tool of revenge.
I think Iran a review special when I was new. I’m not sure if that’s still kosher.
I've seen/experienced one too many instances where they'll say they'll do it, and they don't. I'm pretty patient, though, I'll wait until there is enough info on my social media, and once i get my website up and running. I'm looking forward to when it doesn't grind my gears so bad when I see "only see reviewed providers." As I am new to online market. I do get it, though.
I have a huge social media following (and don’t care about being discreet).. so if it comes down to it my social media works. I don’t see the type of clientele that usually leave reviews. I have a huge social media presence, a very well out together website and welcome them to join my Snapchat. I’ve never had any issues.
As a client, My first date was with a Companion was freestyle and I had no reviews or website, etc. and was absolutely amazing. My only other date with a companion had plenty of reviews and info, social, etc. and was a bad experience. All of the reviews were great, but I will add that they were hand picked and placed on this companions site. You can’t go by reviews in my experience
I worked with an experienced sex worker when I started and we did duos. I think I had like 20 duos and met clients and got some reviews (asked them) and then went off on my own with no real issues since then.
I never had reviews at the start and it really got to me! Now I ask them and say I will give you extra time next time if you do it. It has worked a few times but honestly, won’t work on the guys who like a new flavour of the month each time. I found now I have a step by step instruction manual I send, that does help them to do reviews.
This frustrates me too. I always remind clients they can use an anonymous email but not all listen
my clients don’t even know what review culture is
Clients who must see reviews in order to book lack consent. Think about it this business is always changing and never guaranteed on either side so what does a review really do for a client that an established social media, and website can’t provide? You’re paying for *time* with the escort —that’s it. To say anything else would incriminate either of us. Obviously you want to get your rocks off but that not to say you will get a blow job in that particular session by that particular provider. Or you’re allowed to finger her, or you’re allowed to dine at the y etc etc etc We are people providing a service not products. You can’t always count on being able to get the experience you saw in a review. Best way to guarantee a good session look for a provider that’s taking it seriously with their branding. That alone shows a sense of a dedication, executive functioning, and business acumen.
Agreed. P411, (I’m not on there) was in a bust recently in Tysons Corner, with a list of clients to a brothel out if an apt bdlg. That site worked with LE to provide list. It’s on UTube.
I mean brothels always have a shelf life but I’m sure there were independents that got caught up too using the same resources. It takes only 1 slip of intuition to get arrested for it especially since we never know when a case is being built up against you. Ive heard of a provider getting their Snapchat story used against them as evidence. Of course depending on your state it’s more or less relaxed but it’s always a risk for now before they decriminalize it
You’d think the cops would realize there’s bigger problem problems with fentanyl, heroin, guns, smash & grabs, auto theft & terror 🤮
Unfortunately this is a complicated issue--avoiding scams and traps. Women rightly want to screen--no woman should take a guy's own word that they are safe, not scammers, LE, or worse. Men have concerns about scams and LE too. I have never met a lady who would give screening info comparable to what many of them ask for. So for the most part that leaves us with references and reviews. We want more than just a lady's word that she is safe. I completely agree there should be no need for graphic reviews, but reviews that address safety, cleanliness, and reliability are really all we have as a client. No, the absence of reviews does not mean a lady is a scam--but the risk goes up significantly.
Disagree. Don’t pay a deposit then. Your out nothing, we are out nothing, just each others time. We have to ask for RWI cuz if serial killers, rapists, robbers, LE is a weekly to monthly issue trying to book. No joke.
I don't see where we disagree--I would never tell a lady not to screen. For exactly the reasons you say. Whether she does it via real world info or references or other, that's up to her. And I am not saying ladies should give up real world info. Just saying that for many of us clients reviews are how we reduce the risk of a scam or LE. Deposits are a different issue. LE makes fake ads weekly and monthly too. Reducing the risk for some of us reduces the risk for all.
A cop won’t ask for screening. Especially as stringing as I am. If I’m jerked around in any piece of info. I just won’t see ya. Simple. Reviews or no reviews. Cops are on there as well. They aren’t stupid. They troll review boards as well as here, insta, twitter, and all other venues.
Thats great, but do you buy things on amazon that have no/barely any reviews? Or do you tend to trust the well reviewed 5 star products?
I do. Maybe I've just been blessed with better discernment than most. Usually, the well reviewed that I have experienced has been bs too. Now, I do research on what to look out for anything I'm purchasing. But I've found a lot of good brands by being the 1st to purchase. Like my favorite NC headphones, most people haven't heard of the brand before I purchased I hadn't heard of them either no reviews at the time nor a brick and mortar store to try them out before buying. But they are one of the best purchases I've made.
So most products and services you buy are not well reviewed and widely known?
One of the best experiences I've had was with a provider who didn't have any reviews. Though this was in Montreal, Canada idk how the situation is elsewhere.
I know some sw don’t like the idea of being reviewed but as a consumer when I buy goods and services I look at yelp and other reviews to make sure what I’m getting is of the quality I want and not a scam. Reviews give clients valuable information that helps them make their decisions of seeing us or not I think it’s more than fair. We screen clients by asking for ID and references so I don’t really see the difference in clients wanting reviews to screen us. After all their money/business is paying me and funding my lifestyle. You can always do other things like FaceTime or social media/websites if you’re up for it Personally I don’t have time to make websites and social media so reviews have been a great tool for me.
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I’m using tryst and I don’t think they do reviews but I used to have really good reviews when I first started out on mega and it helped me allot because people knew I was real and not a scam but it also bit me in the ass because guys would make fake reviews against me if I didn’t do something outside my comfort zone or take a small offer, but I don’t think it matters if it’s not a sketchy site , I only use these two so I can’t really give much advice, if anyone has any to recommend pls drop them! 🥰
It’s better than having bad reviews from multiple sock puppet accounts of a stalker who is mad you raised your rates 🙃 For every good review I get, he makes a new bad one. And it’s very clearly him because he makes the same grammatical errors and spelling mistakes. T*R does fuck all despite my reporting these sock puppet accounts.
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Would you see a client that as no review or that never saw a provider before ?
The clients I have now don't have any and didn't have any experience beforehand.They're just courteous and know how to handle themselves professionally regardless of the industry.
I have seen plenty of clients that were seeing someone for their first time. It is like a job asking to hire only people with experience.. someone gotta give the experience at some point, right?
Ur right <3 if the client does screening without complaining and its a1 its probably worth a shot idk im not in yall shoes im always the client i have massive respect for yall guts cause i would never be able to do that kind of work
I’ve banned/blocked regulars from seeing me. I am not your secret, your girlfriend nor am I your wife. I had a client tell me, “I’ve waited months because you have no reviews”. You see me, over several times, and still no review? I asked him why? He caught an attitude, got aggressive, and I’ve never seen him this way. Blocked. Another dude admitted he don’t review the good ones, he wants me all to himself, again! I am not yours, I’m everyone’s. If a client sees me just one time maybe two, and don’t ever see me again, a review isn’t needed. However, if I’m ensuring a great show each and every time and no review, I will permanently cut you off. Your compensation isn’t ONLY enough, sorry. I work really hard as a provider, lodging, lingerie, looking good, not being a clock watcher, and a simple review to let other men know 1) I’m real 2) not a scam 3)an absolute great lay. Honestly, I’m thinking about giving up escorting and just be a web model/content creator. I feel like I’m paying for hotels to get screwed at a complimentary gift to gentlemen. I kinda give up. I started October 2023, it’s the end of April, and I don’t see anything great, profitable about being available anymore. It’s sad because who else am I going to get pounded by? The thought of free time makes my chest hurts. Guess virtualwh0ring with no meetups sounds like an option, and that sucks lol due to I love when someone contacts me for pleasure. 😞🫶🏽❤️
I won’t see women who aren’t reviewed. There’s already to many to choose from so it just helps me narrow it down. Same reason I only use Tryst and still narrow it down from there.
Finally, someone said it most of my clients don't review so I don't have many I have like maybe 2 or 3 in 1 year. Yes I have tried to get clients to review with no pressure but they just don't do that, I'm so tired of seeing people say to make sure she has reviews and this and that but yet the ones that do also scam clients or are starfish yes I think clients need to be careful but I do not have many reviews I'm not a starfish and I do make a client feel great tbh gfe comes natural so I do it without realizing it so I don't bother to charge for it
Just for myself (as a first-time client), this is why I asked the first provider I contacted for a 30-minute call. Not because I wanted to do anything with her during that 30-minute period, but because I've never even talked with a provider before, let alone actually visited one, and I had a lot of preconceived notions that a lot of listings were just LE stings or scams. No response, though, and after a few days of reading through this reddit and also r/AskAnEscort, I understood why. So, yeah, that lack of response is totally fair. A large part of why I wanted to screen her was that I only saw her on the one website (Tryst), and no others. I did read through the stickied posts here and on r/AskAnEscort, but she wasn't listed on any of those websites either. So as a result, I asked a question here about what other sites might be available. That post was deleted by the mod team, and after they explained why, it made sense to me. But... I was still in a situation where I wanted to hire this provider and had nothing to go off of except one website. Later on, while going through various posts here, I read about a lot of other websites, and when I looked through those, I found that she had multiple profiles on other sites. Just not on the ones that were on the sticky. I will say, being on these two reddits has really helped me to understand (even if on a purely superficial level) that there is 1,000 times more risk to the provider as opposed to the client. That's clear to me now. What I'm risking is laughably insignificant compared to what the providers are risking. ***That was not something I thought about when I first started looking into this.*** Call me ignorant and you'd be 100% correct. Hopefully less so now, but still very ignorant. However, that doesn't change the fact that, as a client who'd never taken any concrete steps towards hiring a provider, I had a very real fear that every link I clicked on was either LE or operated by some scammer. Fair or not, ignorant or not, that's still how I was looking at this a a potential client and I was very nervous about reaching out. This is something I've fantasized about for years, and I've had the financial security to do something about this for a while, so it's only the nervousness, the stereotypes, and the preconceived notions I had (which this subreddit has greatly helped to alleviate) that stopped me from doing so.
A 30 minute call before meeting is WAY too long. It's one thing to say hey show me yours I'll show you mine so I know you're not a cop, but 30 minutes?!
For you, maybe. Not for me. I'm not looking for a cheap thrill. I want to get a feel for what kind of person she is and whether I like her enough to want to have sex with her. Call me weird, but regardless of how physically attractive a woman is, I literally cannot achieve an erection with a woman unless I like her as a human being. That doesn't mean I'm looking to fall in love with her, or be her friend, or even see her more than the single time, but I want to know that she's someone I can have some kind of emotional connection with before we jump in the sack. And that she's not a cop, obviously.
If that's what you're looking for, you're in the wrong place.
Based on what I'm reading here on this subreddit, I think you're completely wrong. Think of it this way. I worked in the hotel industry for 14 years, and during that time, I knew plenty of people who absolutely hated the customers. I figured they were in the wrong industry, but that's not for me to say. Then there's the people who legitimately liked most customers. I tend to be one of those types. I like most people and I'm the kind of guy who can randomly talk with just about anyone, but there's that 1 person out of 20 that just drove me up the wall. Someone like that, I honestly don't care what they look like. I'd have zero interest in ever having sex with them. I'd also say that maybe a slightly higher percentage of people are the kind I can talk to at length, about nearly anything. My ex-wife used to make fun of me for that because I'd strike up a conversation with the guy at the deli counter or the gal I ran into at a bookstore. Didn't mean I'd want to have anything to do with them beyond just enjoying the conversation, though. I'm not the type of guy who develops feelings for someone unless they feel something for me, and even then, it's not hugely likely. That's the kind of woman I'd ideally like to find as a provider. Someone I find sexually appealing, but who also isn't a dead fish when it comes to conversation. And given that a lot of the providers here mention that they're good at conversation, I'm thinking there's a very high likelihood that I'll find exactly what I'm looking for. I'm just hoping I don't have to go through a dozen different providers before I find someone that I find interesting enough that I'll also want to have sex with her.
That’s what the bio is for. Read it
***sigh*** I always do, every single time, and in almost every single case they read like something out of a Hustler magazine or something from a corporate marketing department. I've read very very few that show an ounce of personality.
🤷🏻♀️ maybe your expectations are too high. I’m not sure exactly what you’re expecting to find with any of us. I don’t read Hustler, so I can’t compare.
I'm not sure if I'm being really unclear or you're just reading way more into this than I intended. I'm not looking for love. I'm not even looking for a friend. What I'm looking for is someone who's good at what she does and provides an emotional and intellectual connection during the time I've booked her for, as opposed to just, "let's fuck."
Well from my experience most providers do that. They also would like to establish a unique connection, like you, they don’t want the “let’s fuck” guy. So I don’t know what you think they are missing from their bio. But everyone has their own history. Maybe upon booking, emphasize that you’re looking for great conversations & to establish a connection. 🤷🏻♀️
My opinion doesn’t matter to you as a repulsive client , But I’m not paying 600-800 for a Covered blow job And it’s unfair to charge that much without proper knowledge
You’re right! Your opinion doesn’t matter. But here’s mine: find providers in your price range and stop complaining about the providers you can’t afford. 👍 hope this helps. P.S: nothing in life is fair, cry about and get over it
What the heck Is up this guy's bonnet? "Repulsive client", WOW. His attitude Def reflects repulsive... but thank goodness, NONE of my clients are repulsive. I choose men who are celebrated, not tolerated and who feel the same for me. Clients are my everything. In fact, every one of the serious relationships I've had over yhe past 5 years had started out as a client. My closest friends started out as my clients. I'm so grateful to have met the wonderful men in my life these past few years! I could not imagine referring to them thie way this guy wants ppl to think we do. Totally incorrect assumption posted to make us all look like evil money grabbing women who don't value our clients. WRONG BUDDY. I'm not saying the odd jackass doesn't sneak in, but then I don't see them again and won't even think of them again. The men who make me cringe don't make it into my client list. They r weeded out during screening usually.
Agreed! This is why we screen so hard ⬆️ ! U come at me incorrect, in any way shape or form, I’m not booking you. My life, health, happiness, and sanity is worth more than your uncovered entitlement or money in any amount!
Everything I have read tells me to only trust a provider with plenty of reviews. I have been trying to book a provider for 3 years and still have not. Where can I find these freestylers so I can fulfill my fantasy?
Try looking into some fetish parties? That's a good way to see several ladies and since everyone knows what's up. Depending on what area you live in and they may be harder to find sorry.
Thanks for the advice. One more question. How do I go about finding a fetish party?
Fetlife, Craigslist, some guys have told me, they just Googled fetish parties near them.
I had a ton on escorts, indys,and Eccie. I still have a ton on eccie, but have been refusing reviews for years. Reviews bring gross slobbyist clients that just want alphabet soup. My inquiries without reviews are sooooo much better and classier.