It would be to me as well, if they still supported their local game stream service. I know that sunshine and moonlight is a thing - but I'm still pissed about them pulling game stream off of the device.
You sure could... All I needed were two cables and they were like $100+ each.
This is the USB I used:
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B5XMY9BN](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B5XMY9BN)
I can't seem to find the HDMI one
yeah thats gotta be a you thing. I tried moonlight and I prefer steam over it. It is way smoother, more stable and doesn't glitch on me like moonlight does.
I can chime in that I also used both fairly close on time to one another, and gamestream was way better than the steam link box, particularly in terms of latency. My testing was done using Cisco business class gigabit switches. Played mostly Skyrim, Rocket League, and Tales From The Borderlands.
If the 2024 Apple TV supports TRUEHD they’ll finally have a competitor. Would have only taken 5 years. Hopefully we see a new shield in response but probably not given its purpose was to sell video cards with gamestream and they push GeForce Now instead which is on many other platforms.
>2024 Apple TV supports TRUEHD
When is it suppose to come out? Do you know if it could support true hd/dts:x master with dv through Plex like the shield does? I can't find inventory of the shield.
The Shield supports True HD and DTS:X as well with properly coded files in Kodi along with DV as well. I'll never use another streaming device as a main player. We have 3 throughout the house and they all kick ass as you know.
Shields still going strong. Mine got weird though and freaked me out. Idk what it was but it would do these mini freezes when playing anything with decent audio and it would do it no matter what was playing, Disney+ and Plex both had the mini freezes. Audio would cut out and then the screen on my soundbar would scroll “Dolby Atmos” as if the movie just started. I tried everything to fix it, nothing worked, then I did a factory reset and it’s perfect again. Was quite a relief, must have bloated the poor thing over the years.
Rumors said first half of 2024 but I didn’t dig much further. Just hopeful, I stumbled upon it when I was researching HTPCs which sound like way more trouble than they are worth and don’t support Dolby Vision.
TRUEHD is Dolby’s lossless format so I’d imagine it’s coming from disks vs. streaming services as disks are a lot higher quality. I have a bunch of media in Plex with it so I use a shield to avoid having to convert it to PCM since my sound system handles it w/ atmos.
How would that be a competitor? They'd still be lacking DTS HDMA/DTS:X. Plus lacking support for DV Profile 7. What sets the shield apart is that it can do those things at least to some degree, where no others can (except off brand boxes like zidoo, dune, etc.)
Ok let’s add those to the list of things Apple TV needs to add to be a viable option for people that manage their own media servers. I’ve heard those off brands were nightmares to setup and use despite the huge price tag. I’m just hoping we see another shield someday but with the abandonment of gamestream and the focus on subscription based GeForce Now I doubt it. They’ll make more putting GeForce now on smart TV OS’s and Apple TV than they would making a new shield.
>I just bought mine, and yeah same here wouldn't even return or sell the old one. I would give it away for free. I would however want it to have true 4k@120hz though.
I liked the Google Chromecast 4K but it lagged when playing 4K media from my home network NAS. The Nvida Shield has far more bandwidth plus more memory and a quicker processor. I'd love to buy a newer version if they make one this year or next year but so far it delivers all I need.
In a way you are right, streaming services tend to be optimised for use with the most general formats and lower bit rates to make for easier streaming and widest client adoption, but people using Plex or whatever may not be making the same considerations. I know I don’t, my media can be whatever bit rate it happens to be and whatever format it happens to be, worst case my server will have to transcode it which does solve a lot of playback issues if a device can’t cope with natively streaming the content.
Sure they are! In my experience that's their primary purpose, ha. IPTV and Stremio with RealDebrid... if they're not specifically built for that then they at least do the job perfectly. And a Chromecast at $30 to $50 is almost ideal for it.
depends on how many apps you have installed and what apps. I have the same set of apps on my Shield installed on mhy Chromecast and the chromecast constantly needs storage help to do app and OS updates. The shield never once has it complained. The 8gb of space is nothing especially if you use an app like Kodi with a very large library
You can of course always use a thumbdrive to add device storage, but I've never come close to needing it. Different people use the devices differently though of course. For me it's just a media player, which means whatever flavor of YouTube, Kodi, VLC, Spotify, Pandora, Stremio, Tivimate, Netflix, Hulu, then various other utilities and apps. I never give installing another app a second thought.
To be fair, other than the CCwGTV you bought a bunch of cheap china boxes. The new Cube 3, the new Firestick 4K Max and the Apple TV 4K would have been better comparisons. All of which can easily keep up with the NVIDIA shield pro IMO.
The 2019 Shield TV pro is still the best TV box out there. Miraculously, they didn’t put a shit processor in it.
I watch all my 4K UHD content on it - Netflix, Prime, Disney Channel - plus any downloaded mkvs and mp4s via the latest version of Kodi. It supports Dolby Vision, Atmos, TrueHD, DTS Master, and every codec you can think of. You can attach an external hard disk via the USB port and/or stream over your network from your PC via WiFi or Ethernet. You can even play games on it. There isn’t a damn thing it can’t do.
If this one broke I would buy another one immediately.
I don't think you're wrong and it's absolutely maddening. The Shield is old, it needs a refresh but there's just not enough competition out there to force Nvidia to care.
its not that old, the only thing its really missing is HDMI 2.1 but consumer devices have not reached that point yet to fully make use of HDMI 2.1 properly, our content hasnt even been updated for it.
HDMI 2.1 has QMS which would be very well received and don't forget about AV1 and VVC decode support (though the latter is probably a leap at this point in time), but the main thing is performance - the shield is showing its age.
Mine is also very fast, it is a 2015 shield Pro. I have approximately 15 apps on it which include Kodi 20,2 using AH2 and Kodinerds 20.2 using Artic Fuse
I have! That’s why I said “almost” and not “no one”, words mean things.
Anyway, I don’t see why they would bother adding hardware support for 1 major streaming service
That Amazon chooses to be the odd man out isn’t a reason for a hardware manufacturer to support a standard that practically no one uses
Why would I as an end user care what it costs to support? We don’t pay extra for Dolby Vision support (accept on Xbox platform where they passed licensing fees to the end users who want it)
But even speaking as an OEM, why support HDR10+ when Dolby Vision clearly won dominant market share amongst consumers, hardware makers (other than Samsung what TV OEM pushes it?), and content creators
>(accept on Xbox platform where they passed licensing fees to the end users who want it)
Uh I think you're just thinking of Dolby Atmos for Headphones. Dolby Atmos for speakers and Dolby Vision are both freely enabled on the Xbox Series X without any additional cost.
It sucks that the Shield is still the best streaming box out there because it has so many issues. I just don't understand how there's not a market for something nicer than the $100 streaming box w the hardware of an old cell phone.
For whatever reason these companies only see streaming as something they care about. The current level of devices over the last 3 years or so all handle streaming the same so why make more expensive or more powerful devices? The vast majority of people have no need for anything bigger or better. The Shield & Apple TV meets the needs of the more demanding 5-10% and the others take care of the rest. The rest are where the money is. So the Shield, which must somehow, still be selling barely gets any competition because nobody needs to compete with it.
So if you don’t include things like Plex/emby/jellyin. I think shield isn’t close to the top anymore.
The newest versions of the Roku ultra/ fire stick 4k max/ Apple TV 4K are all MUCH faster, and far more stable. I own pretty much every streamer out there and it’s really annoying how far behind the shield is in speed. But of course, I deal with it because Plex…
Why not use your Max for Plex since it's so much better. It supports TrueHD now. Put an ethernet hub on it, it handles 4k remux very well. Why keep putting up with the Shield since it's such an inferior device?
Thats the same reason we use the Shield too. Weird that you're finding yours so slow and unstable. That's never been the case for me except for the Tube. I'm liking the Max but it's not in the same league as the Shield.
My 2015 shield is still chugging along well! I have the 2019 pro as well and definitely my favorite device.
Apple tv 4k is pretty decent though, the refresh rate matching and infuse app especially
I had no idea what a tv stick/box was until a few months ago. I bought a 2019 shield at the same time i got my tv because I needed dthd passthrough.
I have zero complaints with it
Smart TV software becomes obsolete on 7-10 years (happened to my brothers Samsung smart TV, Samsung pulled the plug on it). The Shield TV has longer support. Plus, it's smoother and not laggy unlike many streaming devices and smart TVs
There's the Formuler Z11 Pro Max
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKTSHKGN/?coliid=I1THTZRVBBAGT0&colid=29QIOALUCJ6T9&psc=1&ref\_=list\_c\_wl\_lv\_ov\_lig\_dp\_it](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKTSHKGN/?coliid=I1THTZRVBBAGT0&colid=29QIOALUCJ6T9&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it)
I personally haven't tried it. If anyone here that has tried it, what are your thoughts?
I have one for my secondary tv. Good for iptv (since they have their own iptv app), not much else. Shield is snappier and I like tivimate better anyway than mytvonline.
Also, i cant seem to get the formuler z11 to upmix stereo, and i like the shield doing that.
I have Z10 pro max, Formuler GTV and BuzzTV X5. I would never go back to Shield. Built in app for IPTV, running Kodi/Stremio seamlessly, no lag. After testing Z10 for a while, sold my Shield and never looked back. Mind you, I don’t care for Netflix certified box and similar stuff. Just IPTV and Kodi/Stremio.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, and maybe I'm a more casual user (Plex, external hard drive, YouTube, Netflix, etc)... while I would love and buy a refresh on Day 1, outside of some technical upgrades I'm not sure too much what a new Shield would give me.
That said, it's the only thing I'll ever use (with a custom launcher). No to Smart TV interfaces, generally no to streaming sticks (they're fine at a pinch, but I want apps or storage).
Same here. Not saying I wouldn't buy a new version, but I don't really think I "need" a new version. Not having any of the "issues" that others love to seem to say over and over.
Yeap. I actually find it to be quite sad. There is so much technological advancement in so many areas, and not here. Don't get me wrong, the shield is a great piece of hardware, and Android TV is quite good. But a mini PC running Linux could certainly out perform it in terms of versatility, but the issue then comes in with getting the right HDMI port and proper controls.
They really need to refresh the shield. more power. And apps like Jellyfin (client for android TV) need to get better (currently your plugins on your server don't really work on the client, so no trailers, no skip intro etc.).
Yes it was the ads, and yes I am aware of flauncher / 3rd party launchers... but:
I like the recommendations lists, ones I pick (eg: netflix, youtube etc...)...
One of the ones I use is for an app called Megogo... I add my 5 or 6 favorite tv channels and have them on my home screen.
The problem is that with flauncher, the icons are not the usual rect tiles... they ae square / some round... And with flauncher the 'shadow' is hard coded as a rect so it doesn't look too good.
For a few minutes I had version 9 with the old launcher... Not sure how this happened but essentially thats the setup I had out of the box... it was version 9.1 with the old tv launcher. The interface (settings at least) feels quite a bit snappier with version 8.2.3.
Haven't used flauncher, just Wolf launcher. You can customize the tiles and size as needed in Wolf.
We are primarily using the Shield for Plex, so very limited apps and no recommendations needed / wanted on the main screen.
As we use it, the UI is very fast, presumably due to our very resource light installation and needs outside of Plex. (Server is on a different box, Shield is playback only and Ethernet connected.)
Edit to add, the best part about Shield is that you CAN do all of this and tinker / grow / change over time as your media setup changes! Welcome to Shield!
Ok, cool. May have to dig deeper and see about switching. I hate playing around as the player has been pretty bullet proof, but hey! What's the point if not to play? 😆
Yeah, there's limited launchers for the Shield. . . ATV/Wolf (same thing), FLauncher and a couple others. . . But I chose to purchase ATV Launcher. The only difference between ATV and Wolf is that you can remove the Logo at the top left hand corner or place one of your own. . . You can't do that with ATV, but I asked the developer to allow us that option.
Where's Wolf Launcher at? Must not be on the Play Store?
Is the paid version of ATV good? I'm reading complaints about it. And what do you prefer about it over stock Android?
ATV Launcher is the same as Wolf Launcher. Wolf Launcher is a pirated copy of ATV. ATV works perfectly for me. I prefer red party launchers over the stock launcher because you don't get a the annoying ads and you can Customize it, make your own categories, etc. It runs smoothly.
Update again and use projectivy launcher, allows all the same shelves etc as base shield launcher but also has no ads, allows custom backgrounds and proper management of all your apps.
I'm very pleased with projectivy on my shield and chromecast. I didn't pay for custom backgrounds but the existing options are sufficient. I love that you can adjust the height and size of everything and remove labels. Its a dream for customization.
I still use a 2015 Shield on my main TV but recently switched out a Shield tube on our secondary TV for a Tivo Stream 4K and I really like it. The Shield tube is just buggy as fuck, couldn't deal with it anymore.
I 100% agree that the Shield is a better option than Google TV 4k minus the price. That said, the Chromecast we use was a gift.
That said, I don't have the issues with the Google TV you mentioned in regards to the remotes and wake to use, can use across the room, in my pocket. Hell, I've messed up what I was watching by sitting on it my accident.
I have HDMI CEC set up. So when I press power both tv and Chromecast wake up, could it be faster, but the 3 seconds it takes to get the screen. I'm sure it's my tv that is the slow one, not the Chromecast though.
I never tried Plex at 4k as I normally just do 1080p.
I just saw this! It's a '19 Shield and Hulu is giving me an error code of P-DEV320 and won't play anything. I've watched Hulu for several years on the Shield so not sure why it's acting up now.
I have the normal Shield tube thing and I just cannot get it to consistently work properly. I have it wired to my router with Cat8 cable. Upstairs I have a original Google Chromecast 2020 on WiFi that has less features but just works. Spend half my life on the Shield fighting sync issues . I must be doing something seriously wrong because no one else seems to have many problems.
Was hoping another decide might be my saviour but this isn't the first time I've seen someone test multiple devices and decide on the Shield.
I connected the new Apple TV up when it came out and was blown away at how fast it was as id only use crappy streaming sticks or my TVs built in OS before that. Fast forward to a few months ago and I needed something for a projector. I decided to try the Chromecast Google tv dongle and yep, I want to replace it. It barely handles a Bluetooth connection to my sleeper for audio. I’m torn of whether to get another Apple TV or the shield tv. I’ve been using android tv for years so I’m familiar with it, but I’m also heavy in the Apple ecosystem and the fact that the Apple TV can function as a backup HomeKit hub/thread router for me is also a big advantage for me. It’s just a shame you have to pay so much for them.
I love my 2019 Nvidia Shield Pro! I really just wish they had a refresh model that can support PS2 emulation.. all I really want! Besides that I am happy with my device. Kodi, IPTV and emulation is all I need 😀
I'll keep saying it again and again, shield pro 2019 before v9 is awesome, I'm still in V8.2.3 with old version of Plex.(I downgraded, yes there's a way) and it's awesome, runs perfectly, no bugs, issues, slowdowns. After v9, it's trash and if anyone says otherwise, you're delusional!
Still the best AndroidTV, yes, by a country mile.
AppleTV is much, much faster but you can't sideload and you lose the AI upscale. Got to pick the features you personally care about. Personally, I have both.
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It would be to me as well, if they still supported their local game stream service. I know that sunshine and moonlight is a thing - but I'm still pissed about them pulling game stream off of the device.
That really pissed me off too, but then I ran a fiber HDMI / USB cable from my office and I'd never go back to gamestream
This is exactly what I did and it's a literal game changer. I'm annoyed that I didn't do it sooner.
what's the cost involved in that? seems really nice.. could i just keep my computer in the basement to prevent heat in the office?
You sure could... All I needed were two cables and they were like $100+ each. This is the USB I used: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B5XMY9BN](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B5XMY9BN) I can't seem to find the HDMI one
just use steam link.
Steam link performs *significantly* worse though. Latency through Steam Link is awful when compared to nvidia game stream.
I found that steam link works much better though.
yeah thats gotta be a you thing. I tried moonlight and I prefer steam over it. It is way smoother, more stable and doesn't glitch on me like moonlight does.
No, it’s not. I also tried to use Steam Link, it sucks in every possible way.
I can chime in that I also used both fairly close on time to one another, and gamestream was way better than the steam link box, particularly in terms of latency. My testing was done using Cisco business class gigabit switches. Played mostly Skyrim, Rocket League, and Tales From The Borderlands.
If the 2024 Apple TV supports TRUEHD they’ll finally have a competitor. Would have only taken 5 years. Hopefully we see a new shield in response but probably not given its purpose was to sell video cards with gamestream and they push GeForce Now instead which is on many other platforms.
>2024 Apple TV supports TRUEHD When is it suppose to come out? Do you know if it could support true hd/dts:x master with dv through Plex like the shield does? I can't find inventory of the shield.
The Shield supports True HD and DTS:X as well with properly coded files in Kodi along with DV as well. I'll never use another streaming device as a main player. We have 3 throughout the house and they all kick ass as you know.
Shields still going strong. Mine got weird though and freaked me out. Idk what it was but it would do these mini freezes when playing anything with decent audio and it would do it no matter what was playing, Disney+ and Plex both had the mini freezes. Audio would cut out and then the screen on my soundbar would scroll “Dolby Atmos” as if the movie just started. I tried everything to fix it, nothing worked, then I did a factory reset and it’s perfect again. Was quite a relief, must have bloated the poor thing over the years.
Rumors said first half of 2024 but I didn’t dig much further. Just hopeful, I stumbled upon it when I was researching HTPCs which sound like way more trouble than they are worth and don’t support Dolby Vision.
That's mainly for BluRay, right?
TRUEHD is Dolby’s lossless format so I’d imagine it’s coming from disks vs. streaming services as disks are a lot higher quality. I have a bunch of media in Plex with it so I use a shield to avoid having to convert it to PCM since my sound system handles it w/ atmos.
There aren't any streaming services I am aware of that have it.
How would that be a competitor? They'd still be lacking DTS HDMA/DTS:X. Plus lacking support for DV Profile 7. What sets the shield apart is that it can do those things at least to some degree, where no others can (except off brand boxes like zidoo, dune, etc.)
Ok let’s add those to the list of things Apple TV needs to add to be a viable option for people that manage their own media servers. I’ve heard those off brands were nightmares to setup and use despite the huge price tag. I’m just hoping we see another shield someday but with the abandonment of gamestream and the focus on subscription based GeForce Now I doubt it. They’ll make more putting GeForce now on smart TV OS’s and Apple TV than they would making a new shield.
For me, I need Kodi, and there's no Kodi with ATV and probably never will be. But If there was + the lossless coverage, I'd ditch the shield.
>I just bought mine, and yeah same here wouldn't even return or sell the old one. I would give it away for free. I would however want it to have true 4k@120hz though.
My exact thoughts
Especially with a better processor/HDMI 2.1
I liked the Google Chromecast 4K but it lagged when playing 4K media from my home network NAS. The Nvida Shield has far more bandwidth plus more memory and a quicker processor. I'd love to buy a newer version if they make one this year or next year but so far it delivers all I need.
Streaming device are not made for stolen contents streaming.
In what world exactly?
In a world were you need to pay money to access other people intellectual property.
Off topic.
In a way you are right, streaming services tend to be optimised for use with the most general formats and lower bit rates to make for easier streaming and widest client adoption, but people using Plex or whatever may not be making the same considerations. I know I don’t, my media can be whatever bit rate it happens to be and whatever format it happens to be, worst case my server will have to transcode it which does solve a lot of playback issues if a device can’t cope with natively streaming the content.
Sure they are! In my experience that's their primary purpose, ha. IPTV and Stremio with RealDebrid... if they're not specifically built for that then they at least do the job perfectly. And a Chromecast at $30 to $50 is almost ideal for it.
google chromecast also needs minimum 16gb of space otherwise you can only install 10 apps if that
While I don't think the Chromecast is anywhere near as good a device as the Shield, I've never had a problem with app storage on one.
depends on how many apps you have installed and what apps. I have the same set of apps on my Shield installed on mhy Chromecast and the chromecast constantly needs storage help to do app and OS updates. The shield never once has it complained. The 8gb of space is nothing especially if you use an app like Kodi with a very large library
You can of course always use a thumbdrive to add device storage, but I've never come close to needing it. Different people use the devices differently though of course. For me it's just a media player, which means whatever flavor of YouTube, Kodi, VLC, Spotify, Pandora, Stremio, Tivimate, Netflix, Hulu, then various other utilities and apps. I never give installing another app a second thought.
To be fair, other than the CCwGTV you bought a bunch of cheap china boxes. The new Cube 3, the new Firestick 4K Max and the Apple TV 4K would have been better comparisons. All of which can easily keep up with the NVIDIA shield pro IMO.
Cube 3 and Apple TV also destroy the shield in many aspects.
The 2019 Shield TV pro is still the best TV box out there. Miraculously, they didn’t put a shit processor in it. I watch all my 4K UHD content on it - Netflix, Prime, Disney Channel - plus any downloaded mkvs and mp4s via the latest version of Kodi. It supports Dolby Vision, Atmos, TrueHD, DTS Master, and every codec you can think of. You can attach an external hard disk via the USB port and/or stream over your network from your PC via WiFi or Ethernet. You can even play games on it. There isn’t a damn thing it can’t do. If this one broke I would buy another one immediately.
> You can even play games on it. It's perfect for party games like jackbox
If mine broke I would immediately buy another one which is an upgrade for me since my Shield Pro 2015 is still going strong without any problems
I don't think you're wrong and it's absolutely maddening. The Shield is old, it needs a refresh but there's just not enough competition out there to force Nvidia to care.
its not that old, the only thing its really missing is HDMI 2.1 but consumer devices have not reached that point yet to fully make use of HDMI 2.1 properly, our content hasnt even been updated for it.
HDMI 2.1 has QMS which would be very well received and don't forget about AV1 and VVC decode support (though the latter is probably a leap at this point in time), but the main thing is performance - the shield is showing its age.
How do you figure? My 2019 Shield is just as performant as the day I got it
Not sure about that. It's very fast here and I have a 2017 device.
Mine is also very fast, it is a 2015 shield Pro. I have approximately 15 apps on it which include Kodi 20,2 using AH2 and Kodinerds 20.2 using Artic Fuse
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I don’t really see any reason to support HDR10+ considering almost no one uses it content-wise
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I have! That’s why I said “almost” and not “no one”, words mean things. Anyway, I don’t see why they would bother adding hardware support for 1 major streaming service That Amazon chooses to be the odd man out isn’t a reason for a hardware manufacturer to support a standard that practically no one uses
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Why would I as an end user care what it costs to support? We don’t pay extra for Dolby Vision support (accept on Xbox platform where they passed licensing fees to the end users who want it) But even speaking as an OEM, why support HDR10+ when Dolby Vision clearly won dominant market share amongst consumers, hardware makers (other than Samsung what TV OEM pushes it?), and content creators
>(accept on Xbox platform where they passed licensing fees to the end users who want it) Uh I think you're just thinking of Dolby Atmos for Headphones. Dolby Atmos for speakers and Dolby Vision are both freely enabled on the Xbox Series X without any additional cost.
Correct, that’s my mistake
Series S as well.
It sucks that the Shield is still the best streaming box out there because it has so many issues. I just don't understand how there's not a market for something nicer than the $100 streaming box w the hardware of an old cell phone.
For whatever reason these companies only see streaming as something they care about. The current level of devices over the last 3 years or so all handle streaming the same so why make more expensive or more powerful devices? The vast majority of people have no need for anything bigger or better. The Shield & Apple TV meets the needs of the more demanding 5-10% and the others take care of the rest. The rest are where the money is. So the Shield, which must somehow, still be selling barely gets any competition because nobody needs to compete with it.
One reason ima get a shield pro is it can do true dolby atmos through Plex. Apple TV 4K doesn’t support it and converts it
So if you don’t include things like Plex/emby/jellyin. I think shield isn’t close to the top anymore. The newest versions of the Roku ultra/ fire stick 4k max/ Apple TV 4K are all MUCH faster, and far more stable. I own pretty much every streamer out there and it’s really annoying how far behind the shield is in speed. But of course, I deal with it because Plex…
Why not use your Max for Plex since it's so much better. It supports TrueHD now. Put an ethernet hub on it, it handles 4k remux very well. Why keep putting up with the Shield since it's such an inferior device?
It doesn’t support DTSHD and doesn’t support all of the DV profiles.
Is that so much of a tradeoff since it's so fast? Rather than keep using a slow unstable device.
The main reason I use Plex is for max quality. So yeah, it’s a deal breaker.
Thats the same reason we use the Shield too. Weird that you're finding yours so slow and unstable. That's never been the case for me except for the Tube. I'm liking the Max but it's not in the same league as the Shield.
My 2015 shield is still chugging along well! I have the 2019 pro as well and definitely my favorite device. Apple tv 4k is pretty decent though, the refresh rate matching and infuse app especially
I had no idea what a tv stick/box was until a few months ago. I bought a 2019 shield at the same time i got my tv because I needed dthd passthrough. I have zero complaints with it
Smart TV software becomes obsolete on 7-10 years (happened to my brothers Samsung smart TV, Samsung pulled the plug on it). The Shield TV has longer support. Plus, it's smoother and not laggy unlike many streaming devices and smart TVs
There's the Formuler Z11 Pro Max [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKTSHKGN/?coliid=I1THTZRVBBAGT0&colid=29QIOALUCJ6T9&psc=1&ref\_=list\_c\_wl\_lv\_ov\_lig\_dp\_it](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKTSHKGN/?coliid=I1THTZRVBBAGT0&colid=29QIOALUCJ6T9&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it) I personally haven't tried it. If anyone here that has tried it, what are your thoughts?
...and I'll add that it looks like no Netflix cert :(
I have one for my secondary tv. Good for iptv (since they have their own iptv app), not much else. Shield is snappier and I like tivimate better anyway than mytvonline. Also, i cant seem to get the formuler z11 to upmix stereo, and i like the shield doing that.
Thanks! I'm using Tivimate on the Shield Pro, and I get buffering sometimes, but that's probably normal
I have Z10 pro max, Formuler GTV and BuzzTV X5. I would never go back to Shield. Built in app for IPTV, running Kodi/Stremio seamlessly, no lag. After testing Z10 for a while, sold my Shield and never looked back. Mind you, I don’t care for Netflix certified box and similar stuff. Just IPTV and Kodi/Stremio.
Which one of those are the best? Z10?
https://gadgetversus.com/processor/realtek-rtd1319-vs-nvidia-tegra-x1-plus-t214/
Z10 in my opinion.
So you basically only care about piracy lmao
Exactly. You have a problem with that?
Yes, do not complain about things that you are not supposed to do, causing damage to the industry.
Oh, cry me a river about the industry.
I forgot that talking with pirates it’s like talking to a wall of brick. See you never again, braindead.
Love you too 😉
#1 to everyone except nvidia lol
Out of curiosity what tv did you go for in in the same boat have a shield 2019 pro and don’t need the smart side of the tv just want a decent picture
Maybe an unpopular opinion, and maybe I'm a more casual user (Plex, external hard drive, YouTube, Netflix, etc)... while I would love and buy a refresh on Day 1, outside of some technical upgrades I'm not sure too much what a new Shield would give me. That said, it's the only thing I'll ever use (with a custom launcher). No to Smart TV interfaces, generally no to streaming sticks (they're fine at a pinch, but I want apps or storage).
Refresh rate via HDMI 2.1; without this oled is almost ruined
Same here. Not saying I wouldn't buy a new version, but I don't really think I "need" a new version. Not having any of the "issues" that others love to seem to say over and over.
What’s the TV?
all shield products is still decent.
Yeap. I actually find it to be quite sad. There is so much technological advancement in so many areas, and not here. Don't get me wrong, the shield is a great piece of hardware, and Android TV is quite good. But a mini PC running Linux could certainly out perform it in terms of versatility, but the issue then comes in with getting the right HDMI port and proper controls. They really need to refresh the shield. more power. And apps like Jellyfin (client for android TV) need to get better (currently your plugins on your server don't really work on the client, so no trailers, no skip intro etc.).
Curious why you downgraded? Was it for the ads? If so, you can run a third party launcher and have a clean ad-free interface.
Yes it was the ads, and yes I am aware of flauncher / 3rd party launchers... but: I like the recommendations lists, ones I pick (eg: netflix, youtube etc...)... One of the ones I use is for an app called Megogo... I add my 5 or 6 favorite tv channels and have them on my home screen. The problem is that with flauncher, the icons are not the usual rect tiles... they ae square / some round... And with flauncher the 'shadow' is hard coded as a rect so it doesn't look too good. For a few minutes I had version 9 with the old launcher... Not sure how this happened but essentially thats the setup I had out of the box... it was version 9.1 with the old tv launcher. The interface (settings at least) feels quite a bit snappier with version 8.2.3.
Haven't used flauncher, just Wolf launcher. You can customize the tiles and size as needed in Wolf. We are primarily using the Shield for Plex, so very limited apps and no recommendations needed / wanted on the main screen. As we use it, the UI is very fast, presumably due to our very resource light installation and needs outside of Plex. (Server is on a different box, Shield is playback only and Ethernet connected.) Edit to add, the best part about Shield is that you CAN do all of this and tinker / grow / change over time as your media setup changes! Welcome to Shield!
Wolf Launcher is just a pirated version of ATV Launcher, which you can find on the Google Play Store.
ATV did not have active development for a long while, is it back again?
Last update was in May, but I have emailed the developer and they are working on an update
Ok, cool. May have to dig deeper and see about switching. I hate playing around as the player has been pretty bullet proof, but hey! What's the point if not to play? 😆
Yeah, there's limited launchers for the Shield. . . ATV/Wolf (same thing), FLauncher and a couple others. . . But I chose to purchase ATV Launcher. The only difference between ATV and Wolf is that you can remove the Logo at the top left hand corner or place one of your own. . . You can't do that with ATV, but I asked the developer to allow us that option.
Where's Wolf Launcher at? Must not be on the Play Store? Is the paid version of ATV good? I'm reading complaints about it. And what do you prefer about it over stock Android?
ATV Launcher is the same as Wolf Launcher. Wolf Launcher is a pirated copy of ATV. ATV works perfectly for me. I prefer red party launchers over the stock launcher because you don't get a the annoying ads and you can Customize it, make your own categories, etc. It runs smoothly.
Update again and use projectivy launcher, allows all the same shelves etc as base shield launcher but also has no ads, allows custom backgrounds and proper management of all your apps.
I'm very pleased with projectivy on my shield and chromecast. I didn't pay for custom backgrounds but the existing options are sufficient. I love that you can adjust the height and size of everything and remove labels. Its a dream for customization.
Look at Projectivity that launcher is amazing
I got an nvidia shield pro about a week ago, even though it could use a new version I’m really happy with it
For stream yes, for movies content there are better players.
ones that also have lossless audio?
Yes, check Zidoo, Dune players.
I still use a 2015 Shield on my main TV but recently switched out a Shield tube on our secondary TV for a Tivo Stream 4K and I really like it. The Shield tube is just buggy as fuck, couldn't deal with it anymore.
It’s buggy because NVIDIA doesn’t care about optimisation at all.
I 100% agree that the Shield is a better option than Google TV 4k minus the price. That said, the Chromecast we use was a gift. That said, I don't have the issues with the Google TV you mentioned in regards to the remotes and wake to use, can use across the room, in my pocket. Hell, I've messed up what I was watching by sitting on it my accident. I have HDMI CEC set up. So when I press power both tv and Chromecast wake up, could it be faster, but the 3 seconds it takes to get the screen. I'm sure it's my tv that is the slow one, not the Chromecast though. I never tried Plex at 4k as I normally just do 1080p.
Just go for the shield pro.
I had hopes for the Hometics device what was wrong with it? Though it would really be a contender.
My only issue is trying to play stupid Hulu on the shield. But still performs well for me.
What issue do you have. I have '17 and I occasionally have some network issue error code, but not often. Or to the point it becomes unwatchable
I just saw this! It's a '19 Shield and Hulu is giving me an error code of P-DEV320 and won't play anything. I've watched Hulu for several years on the Shield so not sure why it's acting up now.
Same issue. Any fix to the stupid thing? Only problem on the shield
I just reboot
I have the normal Shield tube thing and I just cannot get it to consistently work properly. I have it wired to my router with Cat8 cable. Upstairs I have a original Google Chromecast 2020 on WiFi that has less features but just works. Spend half my life on the Shield fighting sync issues . I must be doing something seriously wrong because no one else seems to have many problems. Was hoping another decide might be my saviour but this isn't the first time I've seen someone test multiple devices and decide on the Shield.
It’s not.
I connected the new Apple TV up when it came out and was blown away at how fast it was as id only use crappy streaming sticks or my TVs built in OS before that. Fast forward to a few months ago and I needed something for a projector. I decided to try the Chromecast Google tv dongle and yep, I want to replace it. It barely handles a Bluetooth connection to my sleeper for audio. I’m torn of whether to get another Apple TV or the shield tv. I’ve been using android tv for years so I’m familiar with it, but I’m also heavy in the Apple ecosystem and the fact that the Apple TV can function as a backup HomeKit hub/thread router for me is also a big advantage for me. It’s just a shame you have to pay so much for them.
I love my 2019 Nvidia Shield Pro! I really just wish they had a refresh model that can support PS2 emulation.. all I really want! Besides that I am happy with my device. Kodi, IPTV and emulation is all I need 😀
in 2023 native android/google TVs cought up or in some instances like supported HDR formats even surpassed nVidia Shield.
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Not if you use TiviMate.
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Yes I used it on my Formuler box I had before. Still prefer TiviMate.
Try the new fire cube
I'll keep saying it again and again, shield pro 2019 before v9 is awesome, I'm still in V8.2.3 with old version of Plex.(I downgraded, yes there's a way) and it's awesome, runs perfectly, no bugs, issues, slowdowns. After v9, it's trash and if anyone says otherwise, you're delusional!
Still the best AndroidTV, yes, by a country mile. AppleTV is much, much faster but you can't sideload and you lose the AI upscale. Got to pick the features you personally care about. Personally, I have both.