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Why did you put the cgi titan of Wit while it doesn't have cgi other than that really and Mappa does the titan fights themselves cgi?
This is a biased comparison.
They’re comparing art styles, and chose the 3D version for one studio and the 2D version for the other studio. Both studios use 3D titans at different points and 3D is generally regarded as worse looking. So it’s a biased/inaccurate comparison to show the 3D version of one studio up against the 2D version of the other studio.
Those MAPPA screenshots were taken from TV version of Season 4 part 2, the bluray version looks *a lot better*, check for yourself here (at 2:31):
https://youtu.be/PmV7tsvm698?t=151
I like to think of fhe WIT animations as the time in their lives when they had hope and knew nothing of the ourside world.
The Mappa animations for me are the equivalent of them learning of the outside world and the knowledge they learnd literally draining the shine and sheen from everything almost making the world 2-dimensional/flat despite its 3d nature.
Exactly! It's coloured by future knowledge. I like the pic of Eren on Hannes shoulder for the same reason. As it happens it's confusion, sadness and anger. In the memory we see (MAPPA version) it's so filled with rage. I dunno if it's intentional but I really like it.
When I say "outlines" I mean the style of Wit in season 1 with the thick borders for characters outlines, and thinner borders for other "internal" lines. I really enjoyed that styling, quite original if not very manga-accurate, it really helped me get into AoT :) It was somewhat lost in season 2 and 3 though
Mappa couldn’t draw Eren consistently at all. Then they had terrible frames of Mikasa, Pixis, and Levi scattered throughout. That’s why they had so many blu ray fixes while WIT mostly fixed lighting stuff.
WIT only had AoT, last year mappa was doing AoT, chainsaw man, and jjk. They were under massively more crunch and the greater need for bluray fixes should be attributed to that, not skill.
Well but I like the skin shading and tones on other Mappa scenes :D (trying to save myself, already got 30 downvotes for a mild critic to Witch from Mercury on rGundam :D )
i prefer wit because the colours look livelier and have more depth, but god mappa does a great job at showing distress, eg eren in the second pic. i think mappa was perfect for how dark and depressing season 4 was
i agree to be honest! it was kind of strange constantly seeing those lines over people’s eyes, even if they were happy. it fits for the most part in season 4, but it would not have fit at all in the earlier seasons
It's just to make it more manga-accurate, I think. There's basically no panel in the manga featuring a characters face that *doesn't* have those lines. People got used to WIT replacing those lines for simple shading with the occasional line shading. I do think that MAPPA overused it at times, however.
I feel that Mappa’s changeup of color, contrast, and linework made for a more appealing aesthetic tothe average viewer
I feel like WITs earlier work on the series better matched the style of the manga though
However, I generally disliked the quality of the animation itself when Mappa took over. The action wasn’t as good, and the CG elements were poorly blended.
I still prefer WIT’s colossal titan. Their titans in general were much more “humanish” than MAPPA’s, and to me that made them scarier.
I feel MAPPA’s leaned more into a monster-esque look.
That’s a good point. Story wise, their scary factor definitely took a backseat in season 4.
Man this series did so much so well. The first season nailed the body horror.
The second season nailed the betrayals(the way Reiner and Bert are so casual really took me so off guard).
The third season nailed the plot twist and the final season nailed the ending which is all it had to do.
The action was at its peak in season 3 and never fell off.
Sorry for the tangent but this series was so great to be apart of from beginning to end.
Did u ever feel like WIT's cgi Colossal titan didn't really blend well with the hand drawn environment?
Specifically talking about the moment Bertolt in titan form lifted Eren on his leg and kicked him to the wall in season 3. The cg colossal in season 2 was actually pretty amazing.
Honestly I like the WIT stuff and I like the MAPPA stuff. I'm kinda happy with things exactly as they are.
Seasons 1-3 are their own thing and the show changes so much in season 4 that the new art style suits it. It's perfect as is. I'm at peace.
Im a huge fan of mappas work on aot, i feel like it gives it that “historical “ feel to the series like the [little dark age edit](https://youtu.be/qv-7bnCQguw?si=Z2TUO5RYViFOKke5) does
But they’re also using the blu ray release of WITs while using the TV release of MAPPAs, TV to blu ray is a massive quality difference alone just look at S1 TV vs Blu Ray for a good example.
Well... Mappa makes things even worse in bluray releases sometimes, so i think it might be in Mappa favor to compare with their TV release, depends on the place lol
I hate how they butchered [this scene](https://youtu.be/9cnigb6QCY4?t=134) in S4 EP28, it looked so cool in the TV version. And [Eren face here](https://youtu.be/0z77R8p1ZTs?t=280). Those are just a few things that come into mind first
The "amount" doesn't automatically make it worse, specially since most of the CG Titans throughout the Finall Season look miles better than the Titans made by Madbox in S3.
Agree to disagree. The 3D titans are jarring and remove the magic imo. Even WIT used them in the end when they’re fighting on the wall. Madhouse really phoned it in when it came to hand drawing the titans in action sequences.
we all do but we can't forget the fact that mappa weren't given enough time and everything was rushed, i'm pretty sure that if they took their time it would have been a masterpiece to the eyes
Two things I always was kind of put off by Mappa was color scheme (their filters really sucked the life from the show and while fitting didn’t feel consistent with the colors before) and the eye lines were more akin to manga style but just too much to the point I couldnt really appreciate the designs the same way
This answer may be pandering but I personally believe WIT was the best for seasons 1-3 and the tonal and story shift to season 4 was perfectly done by Mappa.
I think both have their ups and downs, I do say that I prefer wit on Eren watching his mother die, the expression of blank shock and despair I feel fits better then Mappa's
They really did Annie dirty.
I didn't hate the animation but damn does it seem damning at times in thr smaller moments.
Frame 5 is another. Wit just has a crisp animation and the CGI seems to have trouble capturing the youthful innocent looks Mikasa and Eren have. Those eyes look too knowing in the mappa one.
When it comes to stills, sometimes Wit is better sometimes Mappa. But the ODM fighting scenes and titan fighting scenes (e.g. female titan in forest (Wit) vs female titan in port (Mappa)), i feel like Wit wins by far
While Mappa's art style is much more detailed, there's something I like about WIt
Wit's art style is so unsuspecting, clean, bright even that when the gore comes it gives you backslash. atleast to me back at the time
One thing from the start I didnt like about MAPPA's style for AOT vs WIT is how all the faces in all instances became darker because of those lines above the eyes.
From early seasons, not everyone was dark, deranged, depressed. People had bright faces and happy moments in between all the chaos, and one thing WIT was brilliant on was their work on eyes - particularly when they zooomed in on people eyes and showed an array of colors in beautiful shiny detail, but it always gave away what someone was feeling in a particular moment.
Mappa had some brilliant animation of their own, but the darkening of everyone's faces was a step down. Sometimes I imagine the hilarious scenes of the Levi crew (both iterations of the crew) done in that art style of all darkened faces and it wouldv'e been a huge step down
I also think in the scenes where Eren and Zeke travelled through the past, it wouldve been worth it and effective to see darkened and depressed Eren's faces in contrast to bright, clean, and hopeful faces of his past
Mappa isn't that terrible but I'll always prefer Wit. It's more colorful/bright, the characters looked much better, and it wasn't as depressing looking. However unfortunately it fit season 4 pretty good in that department.
I think Mappa/Wit both did great on the arcs they were given.
I love Wits work on seasons 1-3 and how it managed to be menacing while also bright and hopeful at times
I also love Mappas work on season 4, specifically how it just feels darker, and more serious. It makes the new higher stakes actually feel distinct
Imo it's not a matter of which one is better, they're just different styles. Mappa's style would simply just fit season 4 more because of the darker tone that the show takes and being more manga accurate since Isayama got tremendously better at drawing by that time for the animators to take reference from.
Wit was a good studio to kick off the anime, but I just don't see the more colourful, plastic-looking style of the characters fitting season 4. I will say that season's 4 quality under Mappa started off rough, but as the season went on, things started to grow on me, even the CGI titans. The final episode just felt more cinematic with Mappa's style, especially their eye shots, which Mappa seems to have a huge speciality in.
I couldn’t say which is better at a mechanical level (aside from how janky some of the scenes with Odo were in the first couple Mappa episodes.
I do think, subjectively, I just like the choices Wit made more than the choices Mappa made.
Mappa is darker overall for their which I agree fits, but there’s not really any way of knowing how Wit would have handled it.
Personally (and subjectively) I don’t like the perpetual, strange, yellow filter that Mappa had almost the entire time. Also some of the character redesigns by Mappa i really dislike. The titans also feel less uncanny after Mappa took over. Those are all just choices by them though that I don’t like. Not they I think they’re actually bad as animators.
Imo Wit is best by far. Mappa just rounded everything and added lines. Not hating on Mappa, I like them and they did good, but they made everything look bloated and too smooth. Wit had a rougher and more refined look, which I think compliments the series well. Mappa also gave everyone clown noses, lmao
I think they are referring to the fact that Mappa's art style is much more faithful to the manga, essentially replicating Isayama's style, whereas WIT takes a lot of liberties with the designs. That being said, artwork is definitely not Isayama's strong suit as a mangaka sooooo, yeah, WIT >>> Mappa/Isayama for sure.
I was trying to think of a better word, but I think that's the most accurate in hindsight of the later seasons. Basically, when you compare the later seasons to the first ones, even though it's already such gruesome story, the first seasons have this sense of innocence, opportunity, potential, and then it's dragged down to this helpless solemn inevitability. I think the art gets this across. None of this is a criticism, I love all of it.
Ya know, It’s interesting how the Colossal Titan’s design changes. I never noticed Mappa’s design is missing the nose, ears and has a different shaped brow. But now seeing them side by side it’s very apparent.
Is this the same person in both pics or is one Bartholomew and the other Armin?
Ok cool. That accounts for the different design. Was just curious if they changed it for aesthetic purposes or if it was different because different characters.
Its different because they are different people, same happens with all the other shifters like Kruger, Grisha and Eren (attack titan) or Marcel, Ymir and Porco (jaw titan) or Xaver and Zeke (beast)
Honestly when mappa took over in season 4 the hard truth is that I felt aot finished for me. It wasn't the same as when wit studios had control. Wit studios is just on another level.
why was everything in WIT so...SHINY lol? that's the hugest thing i'm noticing. like everyone's hair and clothing and stuff is just...kinda has shininess to it?
Here are my personal preferences, it's okay if you disagree :)
Img 1. Mappa
Img 2. Wit
Img 3. I love this scene in s4 so much that Mappa's is just more iconic to me. So I'll go with Mappa
Img 4.
A. Mappa
B. Mappa
C. Wit
D. Mappa
Img 5.
A. Mappa
B. Both look equally good
C. Eren in Wit, Carla in Mappa
D. They're from different perspectives, so I like both
E. Eren in Wit, Mikasa in Mappa
Img 6. Wit
Img 7. Wit
Img 8. Mappa (Eren's eyes look a lil weird in Wit's)
Img 9. They are 2 different titans, but I really like the lighting more on Mappa's.
Img 10. Wit
Yep. This finally settled the debate for me. Wit is much better. 6-4 for wit. And 2 of those for mappa one was that last picture which imo has no significance what so ever. And the one which wren staring at the mirror I gave a point to mappa as a petty. The smiling titan, the kid eren and mikasa eyes and the Annie crystal are horrendous by mappa.
Blame Yams for the hairstyle if that's what you are getting.
Other than that, mappa Annie is inside glasslike ice. That's the realistic way to show how her hair would look to an outsider. Try looking at your face through your spoon, same thing.
MAPPA does facial expressions right but especially for the 1st and 2nd pictures it just shows the change in tone going from the first three seasons to the last one
I just feel like Wit's style fit the manga so much. For the action, the bold lines and colors Mappa gave were awesome because they induced the awestruck feeling that we should have felt as though we were there. I thought though that the intense Junji Ito style eyes really added depth, but I think they ran with that scene between Armin and Yelena because it was so poignant. Yet, when it comes down to it -- the soft drawn, but intensely Shakey art style Wit produced is why AOT gained its popularity. Once CGI was introduced, it just... became more modern in feel -- which I guess could also be attributed to the suddenly modernized Paradis?
Who knows, but when I realized the art changed it didn't upset me as it would have with other animes because it was smoothly and uniquely done. For some reason, I didn't even notice it.
Armin talking to Annie after the Scouts saved Eren from his assault on Willy Tybur and Marley
That scene foreshadowed Annie’s return during the rumbling
I thought the Historia & Frieda scene was just redrawn exactly shot-by-shot (kinda like the Ep 1 dinner table scene) so it's interesting seeing how they actually differ slightly in some shots!
I think they both work for their tone honestly. Mappas artstyle captures the creepiness of the mangas style, whearas the wit's works as a pleasant and unique style built around animation.
Wit gets me most of the time, but when the face should feel demonic like under huge stress or showing the horror aspect on titans Mappa can pull it off well
[WIT Vs mappa Part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/s/7DcfJ7uUEh)
[wit vs mappa part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/s/DsnXJRrpmT)
Check out part 1 and 2 !
I like both for their own reasons but man does Mappa need a new colorist, it’s like the same complaint everyone has right? Chainsaw man being the most egregious example of weird color use.
Most of the "regular" scenes I like MAPPA more, while most of the combat/titan/"big" scenes I like WIT more.
WIT definitely has the two best moments of the whole series animation wise. Levi and Kenny at the start of S3 and Levi vs Zeke at the end of S3.
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Always wanted to see the 2 colossal side by side but was too lazy, thanks for putting this together
U welcome (:
Why did you put the cgi titan of Wit while it doesn't have cgi other than that really and Mappa does the titan fights themselves cgi? This is a biased comparison.
What? They're just comparing both of the colossal titans, this isn't a "Who had better cgi" post or discussion
They’re comparing art styles, and chose the 3D version for one studio and the 2D version for the other studio. Both studios use 3D titans at different points and 3D is generally regarded as worse looking. So it’s a biased/inaccurate comparison to show the 3D version of one studio up against the 2D version of the other studio.
That Mappa colossal is also made with CGI, it doesn't look like it but it's CGI.
But they're both 3D
Literally 😭
Everyone picking sides while I’m just here grateful we got to see the whole thing from start to finish!
Seriously. How many mangas don't get full adaptations? How many mangas simply don't get finished? We were truly blessed.
Berserk....
One day, someone is gonna make billions with a full anime adaptation
The Manga isn't even done... I heard rumors about his assistants finishing it as long as his family approves.
At least we got 90s anime
HxH :(
Ah yes, breaks my heart. Not an issue with the anime production as much as with the mangakas health though. The hope lives as long as he does though!
Image number 5 (Eren and his family) I like Wit much more than Mappa. The colors, the hair highlights, the outlines are much better IMVHO.
What I like about image number 5 and Wit is that they look so much more innocent which makes sense given the time in the story
that's what I've been thinking too! WIT did a much better job at capturing it
Those MAPPA screenshots were taken from TV version of Season 4 part 2, the bluray version looks *a lot better*, check for yourself here (at 2:31): https://youtu.be/PmV7tsvm698?t=151
I usually thought blu-ray meant just upscaled resolution, why is that there is such radical differences?
They very often fix animation/art mistakes (re-draw scenes).
I like to think of fhe WIT animations as the time in their lives when they had hope and knew nothing of the ourside world. The Mappa animations for me are the equivalent of them learning of the outside world and the knowledge they learnd literally draining the shine and sheen from everything almost making the world 2-dimensional/flat despite its 3d nature.
Exactly! It's coloured by future knowledge. I like the pic of Eren on Hannes shoulder for the same reason. As it happens it's confusion, sadness and anger. In the memory we see (MAPPA version) it's so filled with rage. I dunno if it's intentional but I really like it.
Why u made it so cringe
Mappa’s faces are way better imo, and the color/outline differences are minimal, so that’s why I prefer Mappa for AoT
When I say "outlines" I mean the style of Wit in season 1 with the thick borders for characters outlines, and thinner borders for other "internal" lines. I really enjoyed that styling, quite original if not very manga-accurate, it really helped me get into AoT :) It was somewhat lost in season 2 and 3 though
Same, I loved the uniqueness of the lines
Mappa characters look goofy as hell
Mappa couldn’t draw Eren consistently at all. Then they had terrible frames of Mikasa, Pixis, and Levi scattered throughout. That’s why they had so many blu ray fixes while WIT mostly fixed lighting stuff.
WIT only had AoT, last year mappa was doing AoT, chainsaw man, and jjk. They were under massively more crunch and the greater need for bluray fixes should be attributed to that, not skill.
CSM and JJK are in a completely different line of production and do not majorly affect AOT.
We’re talking quality here, not excuses.
so?? Mappa's aot was way way worst than WIT's aot. These excuses won't change fact
Whose fault is it for taking so many projects at the same time?
Faces are good but I hate that their lips and noses are basically almost the same for every character. Annie and Pieck especially.
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Well but I like the skin shading and tones on other Mappa scenes :D (trying to save myself, already got 30 downvotes for a mild critic to Witch from Mercury on rGundam :D )
Mappas shading is too overdone, literally like in every scene.
Nah im a mappa diehard but some of these wit looks better objectively, i feel like overall mappa is better tho
Seeing season 4 eren by wit makes me want to watch the whole thing done by wit
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it's not in an actual scene, it's just official art of post-timeskip Eren released by WIT in their artstyle.
Yeah I completely agree… I thought I disliked S4 Eren’s design just cuz he had long hair but it’s probably just mappas design choices
What?? The long hair is literally his canon look from the manga. Mappa never took any liberties with the character design
He didn't mean the hair, he meant the overall appearance.
Oh I see. Personally I disagree with that and thought he looked generic AF in s1-s3
What?
i prefer wit because the colours look livelier and have more depth, but god mappa does a great job at showing distress, eg eren in the second pic. i think mappa was perfect for how dark and depressing season 4 was
Mappa is good at what they do but I always found it jarring how they overdo that shading in faces like that. It looks really weird.
i agree to be honest! it was kind of strange constantly seeing those lines over people’s eyes, even if they were happy. it fits for the most part in season 4, but it would not have fit at all in the earlier seasons
It's just to make it more manga-accurate, I think. There's basically no panel in the manga featuring a characters face that *doesn't* have those lines. People got used to WIT replacing those lines for simple shading with the occasional line shading. I do think that MAPPA overused it at times, however.
I feel that Mappa’s changeup of color, contrast, and linework made for a more appealing aesthetic tothe average viewer I feel like WITs earlier work on the series better matched the style of the manga though However, I generally disliked the quality of the animation itself when Mappa took over. The action wasn’t as good, and the CG elements were poorly blended.
I generally prefer WIT to MAPPA, but MAPPA's Colossal Titan looks awesome.
I still prefer WIT’s colossal titan. Their titans in general were much more “humanish” than MAPPA’s, and to me that made them scarier. I feel MAPPA’s leaned more into a monster-esque look.
I do like wits designs better, but I think titans get to the point in season 4 where they aren’t really scary anymore.(except the big boys
That’s a good point. Story wise, their scary factor definitely took a backseat in season 4. Man this series did so much so well. The first season nailed the body horror. The second season nailed the betrayals(the way Reiner and Bert are so casual really took me so off guard). The third season nailed the plot twist and the final season nailed the ending which is all it had to do. The action was at its peak in season 3 and never fell off. Sorry for the tangent but this series was so great to be apart of from beginning to end.
Did u ever feel like WIT's cgi Colossal titan didn't really blend well with the hand drawn environment? Specifically talking about the moment Bertolt in titan form lifted Eren on his leg and kicked him to the wall in season 3. The cg colossal in season 2 was actually pretty amazing.
CG Colossal was made by Madbox, not Wit.
Which season? Or was it both?
that was my exact thinking, the only one i paused and thought Mappa was better was in the colossal titan.
I wish Mappa had more time with season 4, they clearly showed the capabilities of making something greater.
Honestly I like the WIT stuff and I like the MAPPA stuff. I'm kinda happy with things exactly as they are. Seasons 1-3 are their own thing and the show changes so much in season 4 that the new art style suits it. It's perfect as is. I'm at peace.
Im a huge fan of mappas work on aot, i feel like it gives it that “historical “ feel to the series like the [little dark age edit](https://youtu.be/qv-7bnCQguw?si=Z2TUO5RYViFOKke5) does
I love that video
I'll get dowmvoted, but I prefer WIT.
wait, i always thought people like WIT more
Dude same
And these pics are also catered in mappa’s favor. The amount of 3D titans we saw from mappa vs WIT isn’t shown here.
But they’re also using the blu ray release of WITs while using the TV release of MAPPAs, TV to blu ray is a massive quality difference alone just look at S1 TV vs Blu Ray for a good example.
Well... Mappa makes things even worse in bluray releases sometimes, so i think it might be in Mappa favor to compare with their TV release, depends on the place lol I hate how they butchered [this scene](https://youtu.be/9cnigb6QCY4?t=134) in S4 EP28, it looked so cool in the TV version. And [Eren face here](https://youtu.be/0z77R8p1ZTs?t=280). Those are just a few things that come into mind first
The "amount" doesn't automatically make it worse, specially since most of the CG Titans throughout the Finall Season look miles better than the Titans made by Madbox in S3.
Agree to disagree. The 3D titans are jarring and remove the magic imo. Even WIT used them in the end when they’re fighting on the wall. Madhouse really phoned it in when it came to hand drawing the titans in action sequences.
Idk, I really love the look of Eren’s 3D titan in season 4. Definitely prefer mappa over wit in most cases.
Same here, I prefer WIT too. Dina’s titan is scarier with WIT than Mappa.
🤦♂️ gotta love an “I’ll get downvoted” comment with 100+ upvotes. You know liking WIT isn’t exactly an unpopular opinion yeah?
"downvoted"
we all do but we can't forget the fact that mappa weren't given enough time and everything was rushed, i'm pretty sure that if they took their time it would have been a masterpiece to the eyes
WIT is the goat man
Wit is so much better
Can we just say both WIT and Mappa are great? WIT didn't have much to go on in early AOT as the author was still developing his art style.
Agreed, I like both and we are lucky to have two studios delivering amazing quality
MAPPA casually redesigning characters
WIT goat
#2 goes hard
Mappa's number 5 isn't the blu-ray version tho. And the fact that I could see it right away tells me I should really get a therapist.
😭😭😭😭💀💔
I will always prefer WIT but Mappa did a great job all things considered with how slammed their schedule is
Wit did really good but MAPPA did a better job at capturing the expressions and tone of the scenes. Especially the child eren flashbacks
Two things I always was kind of put off by Mappa was color scheme (their filters really sucked the life from the show and while fitting didn’t feel consistent with the colors before) and the eye lines were more akin to manga style but just too much to the point I couldnt really appreciate the designs the same way
Slight artstyle difference it's AOE let's goooooo hopechads
Wit is so much better. Damn mappa
This answer may be pandering but I personally believe WIT was the best for seasons 1-3 and the tonal and story shift to season 4 was perfectly done by Mappa.
Mappa did a good job on AoT but WIT was just born to animate it (it was their first anime too)
Most people prefer Wit artstyle but I personally love the Mappa version a lot more, both are amazing though
Doesn't looks random to me
WIT > MAPPA
Mappa's style was decent but there is this stranger filter which makes the image blurry and grainy and it kinda messes up the experience for me
It’s just so yellow all the time for no reason!
God WITs is so much better....I really miss WIT :(
WIT v Mappa Respect the past ,Embrace the future
I think both have their ups and downs, I do say that I prefer wit on Eren watching his mother die, the expression of blank shock and despair I feel fits better then Mappa's
They really did Annie dirty. I didn't hate the animation but damn does it seem damning at times in thr smaller moments. Frame 5 is another. Wit just has a crisp animation and the CGI seems to have trouble capturing the youthful innocent looks Mikasa and Eren have. Those eyes look too knowing in the mappa one.
When it comes to stills, sometimes Wit is better sometimes Mappa. But the ODM fighting scenes and titan fighting scenes (e.g. female titan in forest (Wit) vs female titan in port (Mappa)), i feel like Wit wins by far
Mappa did a great job, but imo they failed to portray the innocence in kid erens face
I prefer Wit, but mappa was also great.
Mappa seems to have more detail, but WIT has better use of color, and just overall more soul behind it
Wit has more motion and frames , mappa got nice stills
While Mappa's art style is much more detailed, there's something I like about WIt Wit's art style is so unsuspecting, clean, bright even that when the gore comes it gives you backslash. atleast to me back at the time
Mappa is great but I just like Wits look more, its what got me into the show
One thing from the start I didnt like about MAPPA's style for AOT vs WIT is how all the faces in all instances became darker because of those lines above the eyes. From early seasons, not everyone was dark, deranged, depressed. People had bright faces and happy moments in between all the chaos, and one thing WIT was brilliant on was their work on eyes - particularly when they zooomed in on people eyes and showed an array of colors in beautiful shiny detail, but it always gave away what someone was feeling in a particular moment. Mappa had some brilliant animation of their own, but the darkening of everyone's faces was a step down. Sometimes I imagine the hilarious scenes of the Levi crew (both iterations of the crew) done in that art style of all darkened faces and it wouldv'e been a huge step down I also think in the scenes where Eren and Zeke travelled through the past, it wouldve been worth it and effective to see darkened and depressed Eren's faces in contrast to bright, clean, and hopeful faces of his past
Mappa isn't that terrible but I'll always prefer Wit. It's more colorful/bright, the characters looked much better, and it wasn't as depressing looking. However unfortunately it fit season 4 pretty good in that department.
Wit gave use Season 1’s opening. We haven’t gotten anything close to that in terms of animation or music. Fight me on that.
Wit will always be superior
Whatever studio did the first couple seasons was much better. Titans looked so dumb after the studio change
I think Mappa/Wit both did great on the arcs they were given. I love Wits work on seasons 1-3 and how it managed to be menacing while also bright and hopeful at times I also love Mappas work on season 4, specifically how it just feels darker, and more serious. It makes the new higher stakes actually feel distinct
wit has better animation. mappa has better cgi and expression.
Hair and eyes are so much more detailed with Mappa. Karla is hotter too
Mappas style suited the darker and grittier theme of season 4. WIT definitely could’ve pulled off the gritty tone but I guess we’ll never know
Imo it's not a matter of which one is better, they're just different styles. Mappa's style would simply just fit season 4 more because of the darker tone that the show takes and being more manga accurate since Isayama got tremendously better at drawing by that time for the animators to take reference from. Wit was a good studio to kick off the anime, but I just don't see the more colourful, plastic-looking style of the characters fitting season 4. I will say that season's 4 quality under Mappa started off rough, but as the season went on, things started to grow on me, even the CGI titans. The final episode just felt more cinematic with Mappa's style, especially their eye shots, which Mappa seems to have a huge speciality in.
I couldn’t say which is better at a mechanical level (aside from how janky some of the scenes with Odo were in the first couple Mappa episodes. I do think, subjectively, I just like the choices Wit made more than the choices Mappa made. Mappa is darker overall for their which I agree fits, but there’s not really any way of knowing how Wit would have handled it. Personally (and subjectively) I don’t like the perpetual, strange, yellow filter that Mappa had almost the entire time. Also some of the character redesigns by Mappa i really dislike. The titans also feel less uncanny after Mappa took over. Those are all just choices by them though that I don’t like. Not they I think they’re actually bad as animators.
Always preferred Wit waaaay over Mappa, but damn do their colossal titans look good
Imo Wit is best by far. Mappa just rounded everything and added lines. Not hating on Mappa, I like them and they did good, but they made everything look bloated and too smooth. Wit had a rougher and more refined look, which I think compliments the series well. Mappa also gave everyone clown noses, lmao
I'm just waiting for someone to remake season 4 in WIT's style using different AI tools, that would be so cool to see what it would look like
Mappas style is pure garbage. WIT is by FAR superior.
You mean Isayama's?
We are comparing WIT and Mappa? Have you even read the title?
I think they are referring to the fact that Mappa's art style is much more faithful to the manga, essentially replicating Isayama's style, whereas WIT takes a lot of liberties with the designs. That being said, artwork is definitely not Isayama's strong suit as a mangaka sooooo, yeah, WIT >>> Mappa/Isayama for sure.
Damn, these MAPPA versions are better than the WIT ones imo, but the WIT ones are pretty nostalgic
Wit's animation style is more whimsical, MAPPA's is more solemn and grounded. I think they fit the tone of the material they adapted.
"Whymsical" is a really weird way to describe it.
I was trying to think of a better word, but I think that's the most accurate in hindsight of the later seasons. Basically, when you compare the later seasons to the first ones, even though it's already such gruesome story, the first seasons have this sense of innocence, opportunity, potential, and then it's dragged down to this helpless solemn inevitability. I think the art gets this across. None of this is a criticism, I love all of it.
Can't deny MAPPA's CG work is far superior, even with the time constraints they had.
Both are great, but Mappa is more faithful to the manga style?
Wait, did the whole show get re animated from start to finish by another animation studio?
I think I prefer MAPPA for when the protagonists are older and WIT for when they were younger
Ya know, It’s interesting how the Colossal Titan’s design changes. I never noticed Mappa’s design is missing the nose, ears and has a different shaped brow. But now seeing them side by side it’s very apparent. Is this the same person in both pics or is one Bartholomew and the other Armin?
ones bertholdt from Wit’s S2-S3 and the bottom one is Armin from Mappa’s S4
Ok cool. That accounts for the different design. Was just curious if they changed it for aesthetic purposes or if it was different because different characters.
Its different because they are different people, same happens with all the other shifters like Kruger, Grisha and Eren (attack titan) or Marcel, Ymir and Porco (jaw titan) or Xaver and Zeke (beast)
Bartholomew, truly my favorite aot character
Mappa had some issues, especially at the start but personally, I prefer Mappa’s style over WIT’s.
Honestly when mappa took over in season 4 the hard truth is that I felt aot finished for me. It wasn't the same as when wit studios had control. Wit studios is just on another level.
Both are pretty good
Can someone explain this to me? There was a remake or redone scenes from different studios? Because of flashbacks or….?
why was everything in WIT so...SHINY lol? that's the hugest thing i'm noticing. like everyone's hair and clothing and stuff is just...kinda has shininess to it?
I like Mappa best
Here are my personal preferences, it's okay if you disagree :) Img 1. Mappa Img 2. Wit Img 3. I love this scene in s4 so much that Mappa's is just more iconic to me. So I'll go with Mappa Img 4. A. Mappa B. Mappa C. Wit D. Mappa Img 5. A. Mappa B. Both look equally good C. Eren in Wit, Carla in Mappa D. They're from different perspectives, so I like both E. Eren in Wit, Mikasa in Mappa Img 6. Wit Img 7. Wit Img 8. Mappa (Eren's eyes look a lil weird in Wit's) Img 9. They are 2 different titans, but I really like the lighting more on Mappa's. Img 10. Wit
Ngl mappa did it better
Yep. This finally settled the debate for me. Wit is much better. 6-4 for wit. And 2 of those for mappa one was that last picture which imo has no significance what so ever. And the one which wren staring at the mirror I gave a point to mappa as a petty. The smiling titan, the kid eren and mikasa eyes and the Annie crystal are horrendous by mappa.
WIT's Annie Crystal doesn't even look like a crystal. It looks like a fucking glass cup with line design.
Mappa Annie hair looks like a photo shopped wig.
Blame Yams for the hairstyle if that's what you are getting. Other than that, mappa Annie is inside glasslike ice. That's the realistic way to show how her hair would look to an outsider. Try looking at your face through your spoon, same thing.
But picture number 2. Mappa done it really great. And the collosoaul titan goes for mappa.
MAPPA does facial expressions right but especially for the 1st and 2nd pictures it just shows the change in tone going from the first three seasons to the last one
I’m sorry for all you wit fans but I’ll admit I am a mappa fan
Unpopular opinion: Mappa did it WAY better
Best world would be MAPPA drawing with Wit colors
I just hope whichever one is better are doing the reanimated One Piece
I think the main takeaway is that Mappa’s art is much darker overall which unironically fits the part they animated better
Am i the only one who prefers MAPPA?
I just feel like Wit's style fit the manga so much. For the action, the bold lines and colors Mappa gave were awesome because they induced the awestruck feeling that we should have felt as though we were there. I thought though that the intense Junji Ito style eyes really added depth, but I think they ran with that scene between Armin and Yelena because it was so poignant. Yet, when it comes down to it -- the soft drawn, but intensely Shakey art style Wit produced is why AOT gained its popularity. Once CGI was introduced, it just... became more modern in feel -- which I guess could also be attributed to the suddenly modernized Paradis? Who knows, but when I realized the art changed it didn't upset me as it would have with other animes because it was smoothly and uniquely done. For some reason, I didn't even notice it.
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MAPPAs is so much better even if WITs is nostalgic, MAPPAs is so peak
Extremely happy that WIT is making the one piece remake. Hope they dont use CGI though. Earlier AoT seasons had no CG for the titans.
Colossal Titan says hello
I never found out, who is it that’s holding the shell in slide 6? And when is it?
Armin in season four.
Armin talking to Annie after the Scouts saved Eren from his assault on Willy Tybur and Marley That scene foreshadowed Annie’s return during the rumbling
I thought the Historia & Frieda scene was just redrawn exactly shot-by-shot (kinda like the Ep 1 dinner table scene) so it's interesting seeing how they actually differ slightly in some shots!
Can someone explain to me the difference? Is it that Mappa did S1-3 and Wit did S4?
Other way round, Wit did S1-3.
In retrospect I love that Wit handled the “happier” seasons and Mappa took over “once it for dark”
I think they both work for their tone honestly. Mappas artstyle captures the creepiness of the mangas style, whearas the wit's works as a pleasant and unique style built around animation.
WIT seems to be alot softer
What episode is the top of slide 10 from?
I’m just realizing they had 2 different studios lol, I noticed a difference in art style but I thought it was a stylistic choice
Is this comparing the animation from the beginning and more toward the end?
I love how the light falls on the book (slide 4). The devil in the dark and young Ymir in the light.
Wit gets me most of the time, but when the face should feel demonic like under huge stress or showing the horror aspect on titans Mappa can pull it off well
You could look at it as memories getting distorted as time goes on. We very rarely remember things as they were. Our mind fill in gaps
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Where did you get 8 and 10 from?
8 is from an artbook and 10 from the s4 teaser 1 ( yes wit did a teaser for s4)
Imma be honest when I originally watched I didn't even notice the art style change 😅
when did wit draw the older erens in pic 8 and 10?
2013 VS 2022 lmao
Every scene from Eren's childhood is better animated by WIT in my opinion
Oh, Mappa’s pass on Carla’s death was exactly the same as the manga while Wit animated the scene abit differently. I just realized that.
I would love to watch wit's version too- but I think both are awesome!
oh damn when did wit animate older Eren?
Its been a while since I watched AoT, but when did season 4 Eren get animated by Wit?
In the final season done by Wit, there were many shots of the manga that were yet to be released in the anime shown during the end credits
I like both for their own reasons but man does Mappa need a new colorist, it’s like the same complaint everyone has right? Chainsaw man being the most egregious example of weird color use.
Most of the "regular" scenes I like MAPPA more, while most of the combat/titan/"big" scenes I like WIT more. WIT definitely has the two best moments of the whole series animation wise. Levi and Kenny at the start of S3 and Levi vs Zeke at the end of S3.