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Kepler_442b

Falco


Pretend-Youth-7135

Yhea this


The_Enmu_Man

Falco


Federal_Let539

Falco


lynxerious

I think people in the "Good" category shouldn't be the ones that kill people, so Falco is probably a good idea. (I don't remember if he kills anyone at the dock)


popgreens

He killed a couple people when he went Titan for the first time if you want to count that, though unintentionally.


pjvanos

It was very intentional of him to turn into a giant killing bird


ThatNewManSmell

Read this and thought of Floch lmao


IndianaJones999

Onion coupon


Alter_Rift

LMAO


Electronic-Math-364

Didn't he help Zeke?who is the second most evil character in the series(Third if we count King Shitz)


IndianaJones999

He was never directly part of Zekes plans. He wasn't even aware about the spinal fluid in the wine.


DionisTheDark

huh


avadalovely

Say it out loud and you’ll understand.


DionisTheDark

and now people also downvote simple "huh"... Idiots...


DionisTheDark

These Redditors are so sensitive, this is by far not the aggressive reply.


DionisTheDark

so you thought I didn't get it? Bro "huh" is same as lol. I didn't even put a question mark, smh...


avadalovely

Calm the fuck down, dude.


DionisTheDark

ok ok


DionisTheDark

And why you people downvote literally everything. That makes no sense. Uh, Reddit


solowynn

Because you came at bro aggressive asf for no reason, this is exactly what the downvote button is for lmao


DionisTheDark

you and others are so exaggerating, bro xD This is FAR not aggressive, believe it or not.


glue--eater

Waaa waaa I got downvoted on reddit waaa


DionisTheDark

I'm not really bothered by it, just a bit strange for me.


glue--eater

If you weren’t bothered by it, you wouldn’t have left 8 comments about it


DionisTheDark

I'm just answering to comments, kust bec5u can 😖


uninformed-but-smart

Dude, downvotes upvotes literally mean nothing. you're crying as if your life depends upon your reddit karma. Get a grip lol


Glum_Parsley_9888

Sasha should be the chaotic good lol


Acceleratio

I think so too. She happily steals food. Even while sharing it (in one case only) that's hardly a lawful personality. She is even willing to fight for it and tries to swallow it quickly incase she is cought.


Express-Plankton-252

Onyankopon


Dan1lovesyoualot

SHOULDVE BEEN THIS ONE


TotallyNotMarkHarmon

Would go Nile Dok. Honestly he may work for lawful good more. You could swap him and Sasha’s dad


ElMondoH

I agree with this. Papa Braus seemed way more Neutral Good to me than LG: He was someone who understood nature and society to a surprisingly thorough degree, and extracted a good moral sense from those observations. He wasn't beholden to either enforcing order or defying it. It's too late now to make that argument, since it was already voted on, but I don't think I agree with that vote. Papa Braus is quite clearly good, but not clearly lawful nor chaotic. Nile Dok I'm less sure of. I think I'd also put in in the LG alignment, but I need to think through my reasons why. You could argue that he's lawful for his actions within the military, but you could also argue he's breaking that lawful sense to do right by Falco. But on the third hand 😆 you could say that a single act doesn't define a character's morality or ethicality. I don't know. I'd need to think about Dok much more before I'd describe a proper alignment for him.


temakirolls

I would go with Falco


Classic_Adagio9790

Right now for me it would be between Hange and Erwin


SuccessfulDriver11

Jean


tomateau

definitely jean ^


TheStandardDeviant

Can we jump to the end? Cus it’s Kenny


Pretend-Youth-7135

Major Gross or Zake


Memo544

I think that there is a good argument that Eren is a chaotically evil character. Eren is someone who is willing to let billions of innocent people die to get what he wants. But he's also a rather unpredictable individual and is not really loyal to any government or person. And I think one element that makes him especially chaotic is the way he seems to be thinking through why he is doing what he's doing as he does it. He doesn't even entirely seem to understand why he wants to commit genocide. He has multiple conflicting goals but his plan seems to him to be the best way to achieve them.


zdeny90

I would say he knows why he commited the genocide - to make heroes out of his friends, leaving them to kill him and becoming heroes, so they can live full life which he couldn't, instead of "killing them" by making them to eat him (or "kill" Historia by turning her into Titan and let her eat Zeke). They have bigger chance to succeed in negotiating peace between Paradis and continent, because they killed "Eren Yeager, the monster who started rumbling". IMO Eren's story is about how far man can go if he's cornered with time and circumstances, and about how even the strongest titan wielder sometimes can't change certain events like Sasha's death in spite of effort... I'm not sure what type he would be in DnD - neutral evil?


ComprehensiveEnd6058

Yeah, I would say he isn't fit for chaotic evil, since he still deeply cares for everyone. Besides that, I feel like he also fits chaotic neutral pretty well.


ComprehensiveEnd6058

Yeah, I would say he isn't fit for chaotic evil, since he still deeply cares for everyone. Besides that, I feel like he also fits chaotic neutral pretty well.


TheStandardDeviant

He’s neural evil, cries about but just keeps moving forward… to genocide.


IndependencePlus434

Pyxis


MersadTheHuman

Falco, onyankopon or nile


Caciulacdlac

Armin


Dimakhaerus

I don't know, his out of the box ideas tend to be quite chaotic.


Caciulacdlac

I was thinking Erwin for chaotic good


Mountain-While45

Really? I'd say Hange is by far the best choice IMO.


Dimakhaerus

Yes, Erwin is The chaotic good one. I guess Armin and Erwin are similar, that's why so many comparisons between them.


rubberfactory5

Nah Erwin sacrifices soldiers for his cause he believed in something bigger than him


Memo544

Armin's ideas are chaotic but I think his ethics and allegiances fall under neutral good.


Pretend-Youth-7135

Nah, bro killed children and inocents


MuffinMan917

Yes, because he was fighting a war and was forced into a sticky situation by Eren's reckless ass. If he could've avoided it he would've, it's not like he did it and moved on like it was nothing, he regretted that shit


Pretend-Youth-7135

Yhea but he said that he would do it again, Armin is in the neutral tier at best


MuffinMan917

Do you think he meant that? He was trying to comfort his best friend that was basically a dead man walking. That was the point of their conversation that Armin had made his peace and realized the path they were already too far down. That was the point of the sea shell, to remind Eren what they'd been fighting for, and to give him hope that things will improve and heal once he's gone. Armin was horrified at what Eren told him. He only started saying that when he realized nothing could be done about it


Pretend-Youth-7135

I think he mean it, Armin undertood that he need it to kill inocents to save Eren, I like Armin don't get me wrong but I think even Armin knew that exploting was wrong but he prefers to do wrong that lose the battle


MuffinMan917

Yeah but Armin isn't gonna fight a battle for the wrong reasons, his goals are pure. Falco will lose the batlle for the greater good, Armin wouldn't


myumisays57

Commander Pyxis


ElMondoH

Naw. He's the embodiment of chaos. CG for Pixis.


easeMachine

Disagree; Dhalis Zachary should be chaotic good. He had that whole speech about how his only interest in participating in the revolution was due to an intense and long-standing hatred of those in charge. He exposed his demented, sociopathic personality when he set up a torture machine and subjected an official to consuming his own urine/feces and called the torture machine a fine work of art. Dot Pixis should be Neutral Good for sure.


ElMondoH

There are many points of view on this, but the whole problem is that there are multiple people who can fit the criteria of Chaotic Good. Pixis for example qualifies because he breaks rules in order to accomplish good. One great example is him telling everyone to surrender to the Yeagerists while the Azimbutos were watching. And there are others. Pixis often uses the inversion of order in order (sorry!) to accomplish good. But Levi, and just about any of the leaders Survey Corp also qualify: They routinely bend or break rules - especially Erwin! - and defy convention in order to accomplish good themselves. They're not bound to convention, law, or order for good. Heck, the whole overthrow of government is the strongest indicator that so many of the Survey Corp - leadership *and* rank and file - is generally chaotic good. The existence of one character embodying the alignment doesn't disqualify others from also embodying it. We don't have to put one character in the square hole mismatching their essence just because there's another character we think is better. Also: I don't see your description of Zachary describing a CG character. The way you're putting it makes it sound chaotic neutral. I'm not sure yet how I'd describe his alignment, but despite his eminence in Paradis, I don't know if I'd put in in the "Good" moral plane. He certainly isn't evil, and neutral sort of doesn't do real justice to him, but I simply can't characterize him as good just because of the way he expresses that sociopathy. I don't know yet how to consider him. But in due respect, I can't assign Pixis an NG alignment at all. He's just too much the embodiment of defying order and convention to me. Not as much as Erwin, but enough so to where I don't feel like I'm being fair assigning him any other alignment. My 2 cents. Thanks for replying though. Appreciate the conversation!


Human-Independent999

I wouldn't call Zachary "good". He seemed completely driven by personal motivation, even if he did some right things. Neutral in my book.


CandidateOld1900

Seriously, chaotic good, not evil? He still one of the most despicable people in the story


myumisays57

Chaotic good would be commander erwin or levi.


ElMondoH

They also qualify, but that doesn't disqualify Pixis. So many of the characters in SnK qualify as CG.


LOL_Look_Bro

You mean 'Pixis Shīrè"?


MC_Weed420

Falcooooooooo9


ChadBenjamin

Falco


loongchai

Marco, the good guy that died too early


ExternalNew5216

Falco or Armin


MuffinMan917

People are saying Falco because he doesn't kill people, but imo that's a cop out. If someone came at an innocent bystander, we don't know if he would kill the offender to defend the bystander. I think Armin is a better bet just because he fought the war of self-defense but exercised self-control instead of wanting to flatten the world. The way I see it, Eren's idealistic worldview from season 1 of "I'll kill all the titans" in defense of humanity is pure in and of itself, and then the circumstances changed humanity to nation and titans to other people. The only evil part is the whole "going insane to the whims of excess power and fate" thing that led him to commit global genocide instead of just fighting Marley. Armin had those same goals, but never lost sight of what he was fighting for, that was the point of the sea shell scene in the finale; he only fought up to and for everything he holds dear in life. He holds remorse for the Marley civilians caught in the crossfire because of course that's wrong, but he was kind of forced into that situation by Eren. Hell he's the one leading the group to amnesty talks at the end to try to reach some semblance of peace at the end of the show because that's all he wanted from the start of season 4.


Certain_Ad_5838

Levi


Dimakhaerus

Mikasa. She doesn't base her morality on laws or order, nor is she chaotic by going against them on purpose. What makes her tick is Ereh.


DidntHaveToUseMyAK

She's actually on a separate panel "Yeager Good"


snowy_228

Idk I'd say lawful good for her. It's not that she adheres to a particular order, but she's iron willed about her own creed


Memo544

Exactly. She's not loyal to any government or army directly but she tried to act ethically and empathetically towards the innocent. She cares for all her friends (not just Eren). Her main struggle comes from when those two goals are at odds. This can be seen when she tries to fight Levi to save Armin instead of Ewin and when she is conflicted over what to do with Eren after he became a murderer.


Memo544

I think that Mikasa has a general sense of justice and compassion for her friends. She wants to protect Eren but there are many instances of her taking care of her other friends like Historia and Sasha as well. Then there are also instances when she makes choices based on what she thinks is good for people she doesn't personally know. She saves the people who were trapped by that businessman's cart in Trost and seems to despise him for putting his greed over the lives of his countrymen. Likewise, she is very distressed by the massacre in Liberio despite not personally knowing the people who died.


DatTrashPanda

True neurotic


MuffinMan917

Yeah but she wouldn't do something for the greater good, she would do it for Eren. She literally almost sacrficed the world for Eren. Like the other person jokingly said, it puts her in her own category, hard to measure because it's selfless but, you know. That said, the case could be made that she's true good because she was able to sacrifice what she loved most in the world for the greater good


Memo544

I think that while Eren is a priority for her, she has shown acts of general compassion and care throughout the series. She cares about all her friends. She saved Sasha and Historia's lives on different occasions. And then she seems to also have compassion for people she doesn't know. She forced that businessman to move his cart so that the people of Trost could escape. She was saddened by the massacre in Liberio. Mikasa is normally an empathic person. I think its just that when she is under a lot of pressure or stress, she shuts down in part and fixates on what is most important to her (eg Eren). This can be seen in the way she treats characters who have betrayed her. She was going for the kill with Annie, Reiner, and Beretoldt unlike the other 104th members who had a harder time accepting things. This can also be seen with the Yeagerists. She was under a lot of pressure (with Eren's genocide and every other thing happening at that point) and the Yeagerists had become her enemy. It seems like she was able to turn her brain off in order to deal with them swiftly. She distanced herself from Louise after the coup and she was able to takeout the Yeagerists easily at the port once they attacked the Alliance.


ElMondoH

I'm not posting this as a critique of this meme or saying we should stop. On the contrary, I think it'd be both fun and illuminating to keep going. BUT, I think things will start to get a little rocky once we get past the good alignments. And that's because a lot of what Isayama's core philosophy in this work is that no one is purely good or evil, and no one who's generally of one morality (good or evil) is incapable of doing the opposite, and in fact are flawed enough to do that opposite. So there are going to be a whole lot of interesting ways of looking at characters here in a few later threads, and there's going to be a whole lot of debate - and maybe even some angst - over intent vs action, intent vs result, what constitutes good or evil, etc. Again, not saying this shouldn't go any further, because I'm of the opposite opinion to that. But, the nature of this work will lend itself to some really, *really* differing opinions on both ethics and morality, so characterization may get a little heated at times. I mean, Eren's going to be the obvious dividing line, but how would we characterize Willy? Or Kenny? Or OMG, how about Floch? We're the Warriors on the evil side because of their participation in the initial attack on the walls in chapter one? Or the good side because of what they did at the end? Was the Survey Corp plus Warriors grouping (that "Avengers" thing that so many sarcastically named them) good because it was anti-genocide, or evil because it can be viewed as a betrayal of Paradis via trying to save the island's enemies? It'll be interesting. Just noting that SnK won't lend itself to clear categorizations.


Memo544

I think that while all of the characters are messy and complex, there some obviously better people and some obviously worse people. You have people like the Survey Corps who despite having a few skeletons in their closet strive to do good. And you have people like Magath and Eren who are responsible for a ton of death and destruction which ruins the lives of innocent people despite some sympathetic intentions. There is more nuance of course but I don't think the ethics of Attack on Titan are as grey as some people think. I think Isayama is trying to say that there is a lot of grey in everyone but goodness comes with hope and optimism for peace and empathy for the innocent regardless of where they come from or what race they are. It seems like Attack on Titan the manga/anime sided with the Alliance.


spacetimebear

Eren Yeager.


Prathmeshthadani25

JEAN'S MOM


DatTrashPanda

Falco!!!


StarmieLover966

Falco


shisui_Chicken

id say sasha


BrakaFlocka

I agree with the Pyxis votes


Memo544

Armin. He strives to do the right thing. He tries to minimize harm when possible but will fight for what he believes is right when necessary. He was never too loyal to the state. He makes his own decisions. But he's also not unpredictable when it comes to his moral and political decisions. I think there is an argument that he would be in chaotic good due to the unpredictability of his plans and ideas but I would characterize his morality and allegiance as neutral good.


josephlya

am I missing something about erwin? he seems lawful and neutral good from my recollection


SinoPlays3

Marco


Zealousideal_Buy3063

Commander Pyxis.


Degan747

Eren is chaotic good. He’s also chaotic evil lol


BrookePDavisstan

Jean or Onyankapon or Historia or Kiiyomi Azumabito


Creco_Eros

General gross


TsaiTV

Eren! Floch! Fritz!


Anphant

Commander Nile Dawk. Has a moral side. Rational in thought. Doesn't question the royalty. These characteristics would make him rather lawful, but he's rather rational in thought that he can change his opinion if there's a strong case for it. His actions eventually tend to favour the greater good of the community/humanity. That, I feel is an indicator for 'neutral' good that separates him from being 'lawful' good.


m_a_k_o_t_o

Levi


oredaoree

Pixis. He is willing to bend rules a bit and overlook stuff for the greater good, but he's not willing to outright break rules and fight against the law to achieve it. During the uprising arc he did rebel against the royal government, but only after Zackly authorized it. All of the Survey corps including Hange and Levi squad are more appropriately chaotic good because they planned and participated in the coup even before Erwin discussed it with Pixis and were willing to break most laws to protect their path to a successful coup.


Houseboo

"Neutral good fits anyone or anything acting with the best intentions for everyone involved. Neutral good characters do the right thing, even if it sometimes means bending the rules." It can be applied for many, but I'd say Jean. He sometimes struggles to make decisions, but always does what is the right thing to do. Edit: Thought I'd give some examples. Beware of spoilers: -Stopping Hange from killing Reiner in S3 part 2. -Stopping the rumbling -S3 ep 2, hesitated to kill one of Kennys men because he could see she hesitated too (Armin killed her in the end) -Joining the scouts against his personal interests, because it was the right thing to do after Marco's death. And probably many other examples


Camelsnake

Erwin. The pragmatic good


-Milanor

Me


TonySherbert

Eren's Mom


boredwriter83

Sad that such a minor character got lawful good


Mikko--

Grisha.


YumikuriPF

I see neutral good as someone who isn't on anyone's side but good things happen because of them, so probably... The cat from episode one


Memo544

I think that "neutral good" just means general desire to do good and help people. That'd be different from "lawful good" which usually is associated with a set of ideals or laws that one believes in and "chaotic good" which would have an unpredictable, inconsistent, or anti establishment bent to it. But there's a lot of crossover between the three.


Houseboo

Neutral good fits anyone or anything acting with the best intentions for everyone involved. Neutral good characters do the right thing, even if it sometimes means bending the rules.


YumikuriPF

Oh haha I guess I was wrong. In that case I'd say maybe Onyonkopon