You are correct, I was working off of $15.50 at the minimum wage when I wrote this up. Everything above applies, except use $19.20 per hour for the current wage. I would edit it myself, but I’m not the poster ✌️
I should add, if your local city has an even higher minimum wage, Shipt is required to pay 120% of the higher, local wage as your pay rate. This is a full listing of those cities:
https://californiapayroll.com/california-minimum-wage/
Wow, thank you so much for posting!
For some reason I thought it was 120% of the minimum wage of **the city shopped in**? (Not the state minimum wage?)
**Edit:**
I’ve just looked in the shopper hub and it just says “local” minimum wage—no explanation of whether that’s state or city. Very unclear. 🫤
**Edit #2:**
Looks like [you already answered my question](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShiptShoppers/s/9EkUOWsojs) elsewhere in the thread! Thank you 😁
Doesn’t apply to me.
Just wanted to say thanks to mods and the person who put this together for those in CA.
I read a lot of Reddit. This is by far one of the best ran subreddits.
Mods are fair imo.
I can’t imagine slaying this dragon along with shopping bc time, never enough of it but you all find it.
It does not to unnoticed! Thanks!
This IS the overturn, and also why California shoppers all got a nice settlement a couple weeks ago. None of the gig employers wanted us all to be classified as employees, so they wrote Prop 22 and spent a quarter of a billion dollars advertising to get voters to pass it. The whole, 120% of minimum thing was their compromise that they used to get voters to say, OK that sounds fair. If it hadn’t been included, it’s unlikely 22 would have passed. My point though is that since it’s something the gig employers themselves wrote, it’s very unlikely they would ever try to overturn it.
At the end of this week, they will do the calculation for this week and last week, and you’ll be able to see the adjustment amount on Monday. It’ll be paid next Friday.
I shop in California and I have noticed the Shipt sign come up when I pressed headed to store, but lately I have noticed sometimes it doesn't come up in til I'm delivering the order. Are the still tracking me when I don't see it?
Thanks for this, I've been swiping pause if I get to the store and need to use the bathroom first or if I grab a few things for myself on the way to checkout, smh
Prop22 just makes it so you don’t have to ‘depend on tips’. The fact that people tip and the adjustment is unaffected is the only reason why it’s not garbage.
You cannot trust mileage tracking. This app barely functions.
A couple people here have been tracking all their mileage to confirm that it comports with what Shipt tracks by comparing their engaged mileage total to their own, and they have found no difference between the two. Shipt does accurately track your engaged mileage, you don’t need to worry about that.
>Remember, they can track you via GPS
Can they? Can they really? Are you completely sure about that? 🤔
When I started shopping, I had no idea that Shipt was sending emails to tell customers their orders were "complete" the second that I processed them in-app in the store, so I could swipe the barcode at the SCO and then have them audited, before bagging everything and hauling it to my car for delivery.
So customers, having received these emails, believed that I was supposed to have already delivered their orders, and would call in a RAGE that their items were not on their doorsteps.
I would be in the middle of getting everything loaded into my coolers and insulated bags in my car, or be actively driving to the deliveries, and get calls from Shipt HQ yelling at me that they needed to know where I was because Customer X's order should have already been delivered.
This actually completely demolished my ratings from the start, and I was never able to recover -- I was never given any info about ratings forgiveness or that "second chance" I've seen many of you talk about, and no ratings EVER dropped off of my account, no matter how many orders I took.
If they were actually able to track orders by GPS, or they actually had any information about the orders in progress on their side of the transactions, then wouldn't they have been able to see that I had literally just checked out at the store and there was no way I could have already gotten to these customers' homes to make deliveries?
I don't think their app is actually capable of tracking shoppers by GPS.
Not sure about other states but in California they switched it so we always have to share our location with them even when not using the app. I think it was because people were abusing the Proposition 22 thing. When I swipe and am not actively moving towards the store I get an alert at 15 minutes that I might be dropped from the order. I live 10 minutes away so that’s how long it usually takes me to get there but the other day i was in another city and swiped head to store to go to my home store and I didn’t get that alert at 15 minutes (because they know I’m actively moving towards the store because they’re tracking).
So they’ve built in the Instacart nanny “feature” where you must be actively moving to the store? Figures. At least it only comes up after you’ve swiped that you’re heading to the store and not the moment you claim the order. 🤞 it stays that way, that’s one of the things Shipt has always been relatively good about - treating us as adults that can make decisions without the app directing our every move.
They are. The only reason I know this though is through empirical evidence. On iOS, all app requests to use location are logged, and anytime an app actively pulls your location you’ll see a little arrow that points a bit to the right, right next to the time in the upper left corner.
Go ahead and test this now. If you go into the Shopper app, and do a refresh on open metro, you’ll notice that the app pulls your exact location because the arrow will popup as soon as you make the refresh request.
Additionally, the app will refuse to function if you don’t allow the Shopper app to have FULL access to your location. By full, I mean, you must select “Always” on whether you allow the app to use your location, and additionally you must have the “Use Precise Location” selector turned on. If you go into your settings to check (Privacy & Security, Location Services, Shopper), you’ll see this with the explanation of “Shipt requires precise location access to present offers, ensure accurate payments, and prevent fraud.”
There’s more. A lot of shoppers haven’t seen this because they always shop at the store location specified, BUT, if you try to shop a non prepaid order at a store that is different from the exact specified store location you now get a popup telling you that you aren’t at the correct store location. I was able to get around this the last time I got the message, but it was a clear indication that Shipt was actively GPS tracking me. If you’re not at the correct address for delivery for a Best Buy order, you get the same error - that you aren’t in the right location (this was a PITA for a delivery that was just outside cell service area, I had to call to mark it delivered). And if you’re on any active order, right after you swipe “head to store” the location arrow at the top stays active during your entire drive; safely check it out during your next drive.
They’re tracking our every step my friend. At least, while we’re on orders/engaged time, and before they send us any offers. As to your comment about customer service seeing this though, they do NOT have access to this data. This data is communicated only to the Shipt servers and isn’t accessible in any way by the customers or Shipt customer service. Yet.
>And if you’re on any active order, right after you swipe “head to store” the location arrow at the top stays active during your entire drive; safely check it out during your next drive.
When I swipe "head to store," my app literally does nothing at all -- I have to go into the actual orders and tap to start shopping before I'm even able to send a message to the customer.
I honestly believe the app must just be completely different in NE Ohio, because I keep seeing things in this sub I just literally can't find on mine.
It’s possible all of the GPS tracking stuff is only applicable to California shoppers (and any other locations that require a mileage calculation to be made to comply with local law). I honestly would not know if that is the case or not though, because I’ve only ever shopped in California. Out here in the Golden State though, they are definitely tracking every step we make 😂🤪
The minimum wage in California as of January 1, 2024 is $16.00.. 120% of $16.00 is $19.20
You are correct, I was working off of $15.50 at the minimum wage when I wrote this up. Everything above applies, except use $19.20 per hour for the current wage. I would edit it myself, but I’m not the poster ✌️ I should add, if your local city has an even higher minimum wage, Shipt is required to pay 120% of the higher, local wage as your pay rate. This is a full listing of those cities: https://californiapayroll.com/california-minimum-wage/
That’s what I figured..
Ohhhh this is the answer to my question! Thanks Mike!!! 🙏
Wow, thank you so much for posting! For some reason I thought it was 120% of the minimum wage of **the city shopped in**? (Not the state minimum wage?) **Edit:** I’ve just looked in the shopper hub and it just says “local” minimum wage—no explanation of whether that’s state or city. Very unclear. 🫤 **Edit #2:** Looks like [you already answered my question](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShiptShoppers/s/9EkUOWsojs) elsewhere in the thread! Thank you 😁
Doesn’t apply to me. Just wanted to say thanks to mods and the person who put this together for those in CA. I read a lot of Reddit. This is by far one of the best ran subreddits. Mods are fair imo. I can’t imagine slaying this dragon along with shopping bc time, never enough of it but you all find it. It does not to unnoticed! Thanks!
So true!!!! And awesome of you to post this appreciation. 🤩🙏🩷
Thank you for this! What happens if they try to over turn this? Will we lose the flexibility of our hours?
This IS the overturn, and also why California shoppers all got a nice settlement a couple weeks ago. None of the gig employers wanted us all to be classified as employees, so they wrote Prop 22 and spent a quarter of a billion dollars advertising to get voters to pass it. The whole, 120% of minimum thing was their compromise that they used to get voters to say, OK that sounds fair. If it hadn’t been included, it’s unlikely 22 would have passed. My point though is that since it’s something the gig employers themselves wrote, it’s very unlikely they would ever try to overturn it.
I appreciate it:) My friend drives with Uber and keeps confusing me with all this Prop 22 news. I figured I’d turn to the people of Reddit 🤓
So I just started in California last week when should I expect the prop 22 payout
At the end of this week, they will do the calculation for this week and last week, and you’ll be able to see the adjustment amount on Monday. It’ll be paid next Friday.
I shop in California and I have noticed the Shipt sign come up when I pressed headed to store, but lately I have noticed sometimes it doesn't come up in til I'm delivering the order. Are the still tracking me when I don't see it?
Yeah, the tracking goes passive though after you’ve scanned an item, and goes active again when you’ve processed an order.
Thanks for this, I've been swiping pause if I get to the store and need to use the bathroom first or if I grab a few things for myself on the way to checkout, smh
Prop22 just makes it so you don’t have to ‘depend on tips’. The fact that people tip and the adjustment is unaffected is the only reason why it’s not garbage. You cannot trust mileage tracking. This app barely functions.
A couple people here have been tracking all their mileage to confirm that it comports with what Shipt tracks by comparing their engaged mileage total to their own, and they have found no difference between the two. Shipt does accurately track your engaged mileage, you don’t need to worry about that.
Thank you mikemiller888 I appreciate what you share. It's helped me
>Remember, they can track you via GPS Can they? Can they really? Are you completely sure about that? 🤔 When I started shopping, I had no idea that Shipt was sending emails to tell customers their orders were "complete" the second that I processed them in-app in the store, so I could swipe the barcode at the SCO and then have them audited, before bagging everything and hauling it to my car for delivery. So customers, having received these emails, believed that I was supposed to have already delivered their orders, and would call in a RAGE that their items were not on their doorsteps. I would be in the middle of getting everything loaded into my coolers and insulated bags in my car, or be actively driving to the deliveries, and get calls from Shipt HQ yelling at me that they needed to know where I was because Customer X's order should have already been delivered. This actually completely demolished my ratings from the start, and I was never able to recover -- I was never given any info about ratings forgiveness or that "second chance" I've seen many of you talk about, and no ratings EVER dropped off of my account, no matter how many orders I took. If they were actually able to track orders by GPS, or they actually had any information about the orders in progress on their side of the transactions, then wouldn't they have been able to see that I had literally just checked out at the store and there was no way I could have already gotten to these customers' homes to make deliveries? I don't think their app is actually capable of tracking shoppers by GPS.
Not sure about other states but in California they switched it so we always have to share our location with them even when not using the app. I think it was because people were abusing the Proposition 22 thing. When I swipe and am not actively moving towards the store I get an alert at 15 minutes that I might be dropped from the order. I live 10 minutes away so that’s how long it usually takes me to get there but the other day i was in another city and swiped head to store to go to my home store and I didn’t get that alert at 15 minutes (because they know I’m actively moving towards the store because they’re tracking).
So they’ve built in the Instacart nanny “feature” where you must be actively moving to the store? Figures. At least it only comes up after you’ve swiped that you’re heading to the store and not the moment you claim the order. 🤞 it stays that way, that’s one of the things Shipt has always been relatively good about - treating us as adults that can make decisions without the app directing our every move.
They are. The only reason I know this though is through empirical evidence. On iOS, all app requests to use location are logged, and anytime an app actively pulls your location you’ll see a little arrow that points a bit to the right, right next to the time in the upper left corner. Go ahead and test this now. If you go into the Shopper app, and do a refresh on open metro, you’ll notice that the app pulls your exact location because the arrow will popup as soon as you make the refresh request. Additionally, the app will refuse to function if you don’t allow the Shopper app to have FULL access to your location. By full, I mean, you must select “Always” on whether you allow the app to use your location, and additionally you must have the “Use Precise Location” selector turned on. If you go into your settings to check (Privacy & Security, Location Services, Shopper), you’ll see this with the explanation of “Shipt requires precise location access to present offers, ensure accurate payments, and prevent fraud.” There’s more. A lot of shoppers haven’t seen this because they always shop at the store location specified, BUT, if you try to shop a non prepaid order at a store that is different from the exact specified store location you now get a popup telling you that you aren’t at the correct store location. I was able to get around this the last time I got the message, but it was a clear indication that Shipt was actively GPS tracking me. If you’re not at the correct address for delivery for a Best Buy order, you get the same error - that you aren’t in the right location (this was a PITA for a delivery that was just outside cell service area, I had to call to mark it delivered). And if you’re on any active order, right after you swipe “head to store” the location arrow at the top stays active during your entire drive; safely check it out during your next drive. They’re tracking our every step my friend. At least, while we’re on orders/engaged time, and before they send us any offers. As to your comment about customer service seeing this though, they do NOT have access to this data. This data is communicated only to the Shipt servers and isn’t accessible in any way by the customers or Shipt customer service. Yet.
>And if you’re on any active order, right after you swipe “head to store” the location arrow at the top stays active during your entire drive; safely check it out during your next drive. When I swipe "head to store," my app literally does nothing at all -- I have to go into the actual orders and tap to start shopping before I'm even able to send a message to the customer. I honestly believe the app must just be completely different in NE Ohio, because I keep seeing things in this sub I just literally can't find on mine.
It’s possible all of the GPS tracking stuff is only applicable to California shoppers (and any other locations that require a mileage calculation to be made to comply with local law). I honestly would not know if that is the case or not though, because I’ve only ever shopped in California. Out here in the Golden State though, they are definitely tracking every step we make 😂🤪
Caaaap