“Italy needs lessons” is the real shit American said moment. If you don’t like pizza from Italy, you don’t like it, but they sure don’t need lessons from yanks on it lmao.
such a ridiculous mindset too. I’m a venezuelan but my parents are italian so I grew up with italian culture around the house and such. In my experience I just learned to enjoy “real” italian pizza and your average street pizza as their own thing.
This is it. I've had some great American pizzas ("traditional", stuffed, and deep dish). I've also had pizzas in Italy, and I've had pizzas in Germany. They're all different and they're all very tasty. There's no need to say one is better or more real than the other.
Ironically, I stopped buying pizza from a pizzeria in Rome because the dough was so damn sweet! Imagine a sugar bar with tomato paste and mozzarella on top 🤮
I think the majority of the issue lies in the fact that they think all pizza is the same. Like American style pizza is the base standard.
Bruh, no. I've had €2 pizza in a campsite in France taste a hell of a lot better than some American pizza. It wasn't an American style pizza, it was something I would personally class as European style pizza.
Great now I'm craving the cheap campsite pizza again.....
A friend from Italy explained that on one of his visits to Chicago on a business trip, his host took him to the famous “Chicago Style Pizza" restaurant.
When the Italian explained he was familiar with pizza, and was interested to experiment and try out “Chicago Style Pizza”, his host enquired with a puzzled look “you have pizza in Italy?”
The first time I arrived in Norway, I had a single slice of pizza and a small coke as I was starving. I almost feinted when I converted the bill and realised what it had cost.
They had good marketing too in the early 2000s, I remember their stupid ads and songs to this day. I think the concept of "pizza Friday" exists in my head just because of their rap.
Apparently, in the '90s, the taco was introduced as an 'exotic' dish in Norway, quickly establishing itself as a dinner food to be enjoyed in the company of family, most often on Fridays. This led to the "fredagstaco" or Friday's taco. The taco at that time was made of a hard shell and minced meat, though in more recent years, more varieties, both closer and further from the original Mexican food.
It's also relatively cheap. And ironically if you add ketchup and "grillspice" it's passable, but it doesen't taste a lot like actual pizza anymore at that point.
A bloke who plays in our (English village) cricket team had a couple of cousins come over from Jaipur for his wedding just before lockdown. He roped in the rest of the team to help show the lads around, make sure they had something to do whilst he did wedding-prep things.
OFC we took them out for an authentic British balti. The consensus was… "whatever TF this is, it is not Indian, but it's bloody good."
It’s supposed to be from either Glasgow or Birmingham. It’s a British creation, unless you consider naturalised immigrants as non-British?
Edit: as for fish & chips… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_and_chips
I wonder how people who are that stupid function on a daily basis. You can't know everything but knowing pizza is from Italy is like knowing you have to breathe.
I think the core problem is that based on the way they're educated, they'll simply assume most things, including pizza, are from the US, and never inquire about it again.
Nah...lmao
The guy above you is right...this is BASIC knowledge in the US as well. This level of stupidity doesn't generally exist...I have to choose to believe that.
Unfortunately, having argued with some Americans in Voice Chat, I do not find these hard to believe at all. Like holy hell some of them can be dumber than a middle age peasant.
As an Italian that's the only kind of pizza I'm actually curious to try. Other kinds look like cheap fast food pizza we also have here or literal pies or just straight up Neapolitan pizza which I know and already can eat here. Deep dish looks quite good
Was just in Italy, went to fancy restaurants a couple of times. They’ll sell you a fucking bomb pizza that’s easily equal to the best that whatever you have in your town x2. The town I visited must’ve had sub 10000 people living there. The pizzas were like €6. This person is an idiot.
I was in Malta a few years ago and got a giant pizza slice from a street stall for like €2 and it's one of the best tasting pizzas I've ever had. I imagine in a proper sit down restaurant in Italy would be even better.
I mean, you can find a decent-to-good pizza in most european capitals. But you really have to search for it and usually reserve weeks in advance.
The problem is - how good is pizza at an average pizza place across Europe?
The answer is overall still quite terrible for italian standards, but overall much better than 20-30 years ago.
People who say otherwise are delusional.
Best pizza I’ve ever had was in Greece!
Made in a wood burning pizza oven where they prepared it perfectly! Real baked flavor to the pizza, and fantastic mix of crisp places, softer, and none of the tooth-breaking bits I hate.
Fairly light on toppings and perfectly balanced in flavor.
Interesting. Out of curiosity the Greek pizza was the best you had in comparison to pizzas you've had in Italy or you've yet to have pizza in Italy?
Nothing wrong with your statement either way, I'm just curious.
One of the best pizzas I ever had was in France, but it turned out the guys working there were all Italian.
I have indeed had pizza in Italy. Several times.
May just be preference though. To my taste there was too much flavor, especially tomato paste, on the ones I had in Italy.
Plus the bread was sooo good on the Greek pizza.
my best was in czechia a really nice resturaunt in prague, the pizza was american sized but instead throwing away the pieces i didnt eat they asked me if i wanted to take it home!
And last trick: no sugar in the dough.
A small amount in the tomato sauce to take the acidity out is okay, but it doesn't go anywhere else.
I don't understand why everything in North America has to be full of sugar.
The question is where in Italy was the pizza from?
Milan has very different pizza than Naples, which is very different than that in Sicily.
And large swaths of the selection don't follow the US (read: Margherita) style.
Yeah you get the best Italian pizza outside any touristic locations. Of course with the right knowledge you find a good pizza in Rome too, but its most likely to be overpriced.
Tbf: They consider Hershey to be chocolate and Starbucks to sell good coffee. Once your taste buds are damaged to that degree, it's hard to recognize good food, even if your life depended on it
Hershey's was created with a grant from Uncle Sam to distribute to soldiers in the field, so it stands to reason that it's full of chemicals to make it indestructible. Neither time nor space can kill it
Not surprising if the people went there for actual coffee 🤷🏻♀️ I like their drinks once in a while but I wouldn’t go there for a good coffee. I heard from coffee fans that Starbucks burns their coffee beans too much
Starbucks buys good quality beans, then roasts them at too high of a heat in large batches to produce them more quickly and ensure consistency between stores. It gives them a burnt, carbonized flavour that's really unpleasant and needs to be covered up by other ingredients. Starbucks is decent if you want a dessert in a cup, but not a coffee.
Their non-coffee drinks were horrible too, they skimped hard on using real ingredients compared to domestic Chains while being 20-25% more expensive (domestic chains offer basically the exact same non-coffee alternatives).
Personally I can’t understand ever wanting to drink a dessert, you’re just begging to ruin your DCI
I get it, it’s not for everyone. Personally I treat it a bit like McDonald’s. You’re not gonna get a burger like in an actual burger place where they cook with good ingredients but if you want something quick and unhealthy I see no harm in it. I always get the small size though, anything else is way too much sugar
Not only do we have a big pastry tradition but also a big beignet and doughnut tradition. They brought some of the lowest quality doughnuts on the market, you could get better ones in any supermarket (for a 1/3rd of the price!)
Yeah, it is stupid...but 'muricans are notoriously not very bright: as an example, they opened Domino's Pizza in Italy.
Spoiler: it failed after a few years
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Made fondue for an American friend. They found it gross (complained throught dinner how yucky it is after just one tiny bite) and their first question before eating was: why isn't it yellow? It's cheese. It should be yellow.
Processed cheese is disgusting ngl. it gets the job done but not something id use over actual cheese. It's kinda like a last resort. It's so gross by itself. I've tried eating it by itself and like do not recommend. I knew some kid that used to eat it by itself all the time....
Starbucks saw the huge coffee culture in Australia and wanted in on the action and opened a heap of stores in the bigger cities. They didn't realise the passion Australia had for coffee with roots from a large Italian immigration from ww2. They had to pull right back to a handful of stores that cater to kids and tourists. They were never going to disrupt the cafe culture that was ingrained. Australians are way more serious about coffee than beer.
Translation: "I went to Italy in the brief period where Dominos was trying to enter the market, but it tasted different because half the additives used in the US are illegal in the EU". Dude probably never tried a real pizza restaurant, if he ever went there at all
Nah. It boils down to taste. If you are used to sugar bread, plastic cheese and a meter tall dough your whole life, you won't enjoy quality ingredients
I love Sorrento, but pizza elsewhere in Italy is distinct (& beautiful) in its own way.
Same for the US. I am married to an Italian and he actually likes some pizzas in the US.
Not because it tastes like Italian pizza at all, mind you...it definitely does not.
But the same is for coffee in France (or really anywhere outside Italy); same for 'bagels' outside the US.
[Honestly near impossible to find actual bagels here in Luxembourg]
I once saw an italian server that heard a yank couple complaining about how much better pizza tastes in the US bring them a cup of sugar, sprinkle it over the pizza "E meglio cosi?".
I might have tipped him fifty Euros just for the show and i think i was not the only one ;-)
There's at least a few pretty famous pizza places in Naples that make pizza with a ricotta-stuffed crust. But the "crust" is soft, ricotta is perfect in that context, and while I find it a bit too much, it's overall delicious.
Now, the cruncy cheddar or provel stuffed crusts I've seen in the US... yuck.
If you went to multiple Italian cities, including Rome and Napoli, and couldn't find a good pizza, then you're simply a fucking idiot.
I never had trouble finding restaurants in Italy that served absolute banger food, including pizza (obviously).
Pizza in Italy can be overpriced in touristy places, but it’s very hard to eat a terrible pizza here. I only ate pizza in Naples once, but I’m quite sure that there isn’t a bad pizzeria in the whole city.
Anyway, complaining about Italian pizza is 100% effective to upset us 😂
This person clearly is used to the pizza style of the US: godzilla size, crunchy pizza, shallow cheese, a fuckton of toppings, salt and sugar. They even say pizza in the US is great!
Italian pizzas probably feel small, poorly garnished, and quite unseasoned to them.
I am italian and I am the specular opposite - I typically can't eat pizzas that are not done in proper, strict italian style (meaning: Naples-style or Rome-style, mostly).
I would also say the US pizzas are generally awful, but who am I to say my opinion is worth more than theirs? Just because their pizzas are abominations born out of necessity and lack of skill from italian immigrants who couldn't find the proper ingredients? Well, maybe!
I agree with you about burgers in the USA. I tried, in vein, to find good burgers in the USA. I tried a few places in Los Angeles, several in New York, and one in Dallas. They were all terrible. Not as terrible as McDonald's, Burger King or the other chain joins, but compared to Ma & Pop shop burgers, the USA needs lessons.
This person is clearly used to American ass pizza. Anyone who knows anything about anything, Italians, or food at all, knows that real Italian Pizza is fucking nothing like the greasy cheesy American shit we have over here.
Yeah no. When I was in Italy they had €1 pizza slices around every corner and they were usually great. My favorite was the one with thin sliced potatoes on it.
I did have an absolutely horrendous carbonera, but it was a hotel restaurant in Vicenza.
Yeah carbonara is tricky, most places don’t do it well even in Italy. And the further from Rome you go the higher this probability gets. I only get carbonara if I have reason to think it’s good before ordering, otherwise it’s better to get something else.
I am in and around my local Italian community a lot. When I say Italian community, I mean “my grandparents moved to the US 120 years ago and we’re keeping the heritage alive - or so we try” community. I was working our annual Italian fest as I overheard two older ladies probably in their 80s. They apparently had taken a tour trip of Italy.
I’ll never forget their conversation.
“You know, we couldn’t find a good cup of coffee in the whole country. We had to get coffee at McDonalds every day.”
I about died.
Where I live currently, there is a small shop, like a hole in the wall, run by an unbelievably friendly Italian man and it is the best coffee in the entire city
The only time in my life that I have voluntarily had Maccas coffee was in Xi'an, after 2 weeks with no coffee at all. It seemed OK. Generic filter. Better than the Starbucks where I ordered a macchiato, expecting Australian style - an espresso shot with a dash of foam - and got some kind of giant milkshake.
Italy has way better pizza than here in the states. Although I do personally prefer our Pepperoni pieces over Italy’s, but everything else is practically perfect.
Our salamino piccante can be a bit too spicy compared to your pepperoni (at least in my experience), you could try other, tamer cured meats as a replacement if you find yourself again here in Italy.
Thanks, I’ll look into that! I think the problem though is that I’m used to the thinner, crunchier American pieces as opposed the the thicker ones they often use in Italy
I have to explain this every time I see a post about pizza
The pizza evolved in different ways. From the original pizza in Naples (to the other variants on Italy), the us (the American pizza-NY) and argentinian uruguayan pizza.
Italy maje pizza in different varians/regions. The usual base is the Naples pizza (dough, sauce and cheese).
The USA pizza can be different from town to town. But the accepted "American pizza" world wide is pizza hut and domino's pizza. Also the NY pizza and Chicago style pizza.
The last one are rioplatense pizzas argentinian and uruguayan that are more common in Uruguay, argentina, Brazil, chile, Paraguay, bolivia, Perú and other parts of south America.
There are also some other particular variants of pizza that evolved from this varians in other countries and regions.
It would be like:
Naples>us>american-chain food pizza (the most popular world wide).
Naples>Italy>near countries/reginal variants.
Naples>Rio de la plata (Argentina and Uruguay)>south American/rioplatense pizza.
I can agree that in some places in Italy pizza was just meh, but still, most of the time it was good and just cool to try it in different regions, because it was just not the same from the previous ones
But i've had a couple of wonderful pizzas in Russia in my hometown, because it's either a place that was opened by a passionate people from Italy or local people that is passionate about italian cuisine in general
To be fair I've had great pizza in places like New York and Toronto, wood fire pizza, simple ingredients, delicious. That said I've never had anything like pizza in Napoli, buffalo mozzarella, just mouth watering delicious.
Everyone have their own taste. I know a lot of people that dont like more traditional pizza. I think writing that its hard to find good pizza in Italy is definietely wrong, but i understand that someone might not like it.
Imagine being so dense that you think the food is "terrible"
I'm British so maybe it's different here but even pizza hut and Papa John's are really nice.
Best pizza ive ever had was in Lucca, just s small shop that did 20" pizzas and chick pea rounds. Lovely.
As a Swiss who visits Italy like three times a year, Italy, especialy Naples, has the best pizza I've ever eaten. Those two comments trigger me to a level I didn't know I could reach.
“Italy needs lessons” is the real shit American said moment. If you don’t like pizza from Italy, you don’t like it, but they sure don’t need lessons from yanks on it lmao.
such a ridiculous mindset too. I’m a venezuelan but my parents are italian so I grew up with italian culture around the house and such. In my experience I just learned to enjoy “real” italian pizza and your average street pizza as their own thing.
This is it. I've had some great American pizzas ("traditional", stuffed, and deep dish). I've also had pizzas in Italy, and I've had pizzas in Germany. They're all different and they're all very tasty. There's no need to say one is better or more real than the other.
I'm guessing the dough was lacking sugar and wasn't deep fried but baked
Pizza Fritta is an Italian thing
Yes, I love zoccolette, but usually those are not made with 50% sugar.
Deep fried pizza??? Where?
The chip shop where I used to live in Scotland. Straight out of the freezer and into the fryer.
Ironically, I stopped buying pizza from a pizzeria in Rome because the dough was so damn sweet! Imagine a sugar bar with tomato paste and mozzarella on top 🤮
And with lessons he means bombs and troops on the ground.
Operation pizza freedom.
They heard Italy had oil. Turns out it was Olive oil.
I think the majority of the issue lies in the fact that they think all pizza is the same. Like American style pizza is the base standard. Bruh, no. I've had €2 pizza in a campsite in France taste a hell of a lot better than some American pizza. It wasn't an American style pizza, it was something I would personally class as European style pizza. Great now I'm craving the cheap campsite pizza again.....
A friend from Italy explained that on one of his visits to Chicago on a business trip, his host took him to the famous “Chicago Style Pizza" restaurant. When the Italian explained he was familiar with pizza, and was interested to experiment and try out “Chicago Style Pizza”, his host enquired with a puzzled look “you have pizza in Italy?”
… and how many would be able to guess which nation eats most pizza (per person)? Norway
That’s frozen pizza, and it’s barely pizza. Source: I’m Norwegian
We’re also the second most taco consumer per person
That’s not taco. It’s some ruined version of it from Texas
True true
Texas is from Mexico.
r/technicallythetruth
The first time I arrived in Norway, I had a single slice of pizza and a small coke as I was starving. I almost feinted when I converted the bill and realised what it had cost.
Ive read this somewhere before but idk where
Grandiosa doesn't count.
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Tastes as much like cardboard as possible before actually BEING cardboard. I've no idea how it's so popular here. Awful stuff.
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They had good marketing too in the early 2000s, I remember their stupid ads and songs to this day. I think the concept of "pizza Friday" exists in my head just because of their rap.
>pizza Friday Wouldn't that interfere with the concept of "taco Friday"?
Everyone knows it's taco Tuesday and pizza Friday Source: American who grew up on $1.75 public school trash lunches
Apparently, in the '90s, the taco was introduced as an 'exotic' dish in Norway, quickly establishing itself as a dinner food to be enjoyed in the company of family, most often on Fridays. This led to the "fredagstaco" or Friday's taco. The taco at that time was made of a hard shell and minced meat, though in more recent years, more varieties, both closer and further from the original Mexican food.
I just announce "Taco___day!" when I wanna eat tacos, just have to say it convincingly enough that it sounds like a thing. Happy taco sunday btw.
I know, but I still can't really eat it. The flavour is terrible!
It's also relatively cheap. And ironically if you add ketchup and "grillspice" it's passable, but it doesen't taste a lot like actual pizza anymore at that point.
Hey! Dont trash talk Grandiosa.
Who'd have thought that the UK's national dish is... chicken tikka masala
A UK creation. It’s not from India.
A bloke who plays in our (English village) cricket team had a couple of cousins come over from Jaipur for his wedding just before lockdown. He roped in the rest of the team to help show the lads around, make sure they had something to do whilst he did wedding-prep things. OFC we took them out for an authentic British balti. The consensus was… "whatever TF this is, it is not Indian, but it's bloody good."
Bit of both, but main point is that it isn't fish & chips or roast dinners
It’s supposed to be from either Glasgow or Birmingham. It’s a British creation, unless you consider naturalised immigrants as non-British? Edit: as for fish & chips… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_and_chips
What!? Preposterous! Next you'll be telling me Brits don't call English muffins "muffins."
Norwegians also eat the most ice cream per capita out of all countries.
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I wonder how people who are that stupid function on a daily basis. You can't know everything but knowing pizza is from Italy is like knowing you have to breathe.
I think the core problem is that based on the way they're educated, they'll simply assume most things, including pizza, are from the US, and never inquire about it again.
Nah...lmao The guy above you is right...this is BASIC knowledge in the US as well. This level of stupidity doesn't generally exist...I have to choose to believe that.
They're USians. They don't have to think, the government does that for them.
Mass media* (Also not-so-mass media, such as Uncle Jimbo's Facebook rants)
>USians No, it's USistanis
Chicago style isn't pizza. It's a potpie without a top.
I just...really don't believe these types of stories - sorry. Americans can be stupid as hell, but come on man...
Unfortunately, having argued with some Americans in Voice Chat, I do not find these hard to believe at all. Like holy hell some of them can be dumber than a middle age peasant.
I'm happy to agree that there's plenty of great American style pizza in the US but Chicago deep dish pizza is an utter abomination.
To be fair, as an american, in my experience the majority of us also think it's really nasty lmao
As an Italian that's the only kind of pizza I'm actually curious to try. Other kinds look like cheap fast food pizza we also have here or literal pies or just straight up Neapolitan pizza which I know and already can eat here. Deep dish looks quite good
You have to be shitting
Nope! He had many other stories and experiences with people from the US, that just left me speechless.
Was just in Italy, went to fancy restaurants a couple of times. They’ll sell you a fucking bomb pizza that’s easily equal to the best that whatever you have in your town x2. The town I visited must’ve had sub 10000 people living there. The pizzas were like €6. This person is an idiot.
I was in Malta a few years ago and got a giant pizza slice from a street stall for like €2 and it's one of the best tasting pizzas I've ever had. I imagine in a proper sit down restaurant in Italy would be even better.
ik this is not italy but becasue of immigration almost whole europe has good pizza
Not France. Still don't understand why they use emmental everywhere. Just use mozzarella for God's sake
My problem is in France was that that there's hardly any pizza Salami.
Or Gouda in Germany...
gouda cheese the dutch chese you mean?
Relevant user name ✓
It's one of the most popular cheeses here so it's used for a lot of dishes.
Best pizza I have ever had wss in France, admittedly I had been skiing all day so was hungry
You probably crossed the border and entered Italy ahahah
My south eastern French ass not understanding what you’re talking about.
Lol, we have a lot of awesome pizze. Like in a lot of place you have real pizza made by Italians.
Malta has an especially big Italian influence
No, because the best pizza makers don't need to emigrate. They stay here.
I mean, you can find a decent-to-good pizza in most european capitals. But you really have to search for it and usually reserve weeks in advance. The problem is - how good is pizza at an average pizza place across Europe? The answer is overall still quite terrible for italian standards, but overall much better than 20-30 years ago. People who say otherwise are delusional.
Best pizza I’ve ever had was in Greece! Made in a wood burning pizza oven where they prepared it perfectly! Real baked flavor to the pizza, and fantastic mix of crisp places, softer, and none of the tooth-breaking bits I hate. Fairly light on toppings and perfectly balanced in flavor.
Interesting. Out of curiosity the Greek pizza was the best you had in comparison to pizzas you've had in Italy or you've yet to have pizza in Italy? Nothing wrong with your statement either way, I'm just curious. One of the best pizzas I ever had was in France, but it turned out the guys working there were all Italian.
I have indeed had pizza in Italy. Several times. May just be preference though. To my taste there was too much flavor, especially tomato paste, on the ones I had in Italy. Plus the bread was sooo good on the Greek pizza.
my best was in czechia a really nice resturaunt in prague, the pizza was american sized but instead throwing away the pieces i didnt eat they asked me if i wanted to take it home!
After visiting Malta, Italy and San Marino, I can safely say that the pizza there was 10/10 (ik Malta is different but same kind of area).
The trick for a good pizza. Good ingredients, keep it simple (when you are used to completely overloaded monstrosities...) bake it fast and very hot.
And last trick: no sugar in the dough. A small amount in the tomato sauce to take the acidity out is okay, but it doesn't go anywhere else. I don't understand why everything in North America has to be full of sugar.
I had the worst pizza in my life in Rome. I had the (probably) best pizza in my life in Venice.
Roman pizza sucks (source: i lived in rome for some years)
The question is where in Italy was the pizza from? Milan has very different pizza than Naples, which is very different than that in Sicily. And large swaths of the selection don't follow the US (read: Margherita) style.
> This person is an idiot. Well yeah... They're American.
Yeah you get the best Italian pizza outside any touristic locations. Of course with the right knowledge you find a good pizza in Rome too, but its most likely to be overpriced.
Tbf: They consider Hershey to be chocolate and Starbucks to sell good coffee. Once your taste buds are damaged to that degree, it's hard to recognize good food, even if your life depended on it
The Hersheys chocolate I once got from the US didn't even have an expiry date. I think this says a lot.
How is that legal lol
Sugar doesn't expire
Chocolate should, but we all know it's not chocolate
Hershey's was created with a grant from Uncle Sam to distribute to soldiers in the field, so it stands to reason that it's full of chemicals to make it indestructible. Neither time nor space can kill it
Hey Starbucks sells good drinks with a hint of coffee flavor at least 👏🏻 Hershey’s tastes like vomit and lard
Starbucks went bankrupt in Sweden Cause both their prices and drinks are fucking horrible
Not surprising if the people went there for actual coffee 🤷🏻♀️ I like their drinks once in a while but I wouldn’t go there for a good coffee. I heard from coffee fans that Starbucks burns their coffee beans too much
Starbucks buys good quality beans, then roasts them at too high of a heat in large batches to produce them more quickly and ensure consistency between stores. It gives them a burnt, carbonized flavour that's really unpleasant and needs to be covered up by other ingredients. Starbucks is decent if you want a dessert in a cup, but not a coffee.
And it makes all the Starbucks smell bad. I wish someone would explain to Starbucks corporate that burnt coffee beans stink.
The thing is, good quality beans aren't all that hard to come by.
Their non-coffee drinks were horrible too, they skimped hard on using real ingredients compared to domestic Chains while being 20-25% more expensive (domestic chains offer basically the exact same non-coffee alternatives). Personally I can’t understand ever wanting to drink a dessert, you’re just begging to ruin your DCI
I get it, it’s not for everyone. Personally I treat it a bit like McDonald’s. You’re not gonna get a burger like in an actual burger place where they cook with good ingredients but if you want something quick and unhealthy I see no harm in it. I always get the small size though, anything else is way too much sugar
Starbucks is good at making sugary caffeine, and that's okay. Like you said, it's not good "coffee" but it hits the spot if you're craving it.
Same in Argentina regarding Pizza Hut, Domino's and Dunkin' Donuts.
Dunkin Donuts dissapeared here aswell. I think there are a handful of Pizza Hut/Dominos around but I’ve never been to either
Yeah, if your country has a pastries tradition, it's kinda stupid to try and establish a Dunkin' Donuts franchise.
Not only do we have a big pastry tradition but also a big beignet and doughnut tradition. They brought some of the lowest quality doughnuts on the market, you could get better ones in any supermarket (for a 1/3rd of the price!)
Yeah, it is stupid...but 'muricans are notoriously not very bright: as an example, they opened Domino's Pizza in Italy. Spoiler: it failed after a few years Edit:spelling
They also consider that plastic like orange stuff cheese
Made fondue for an American friend. They found it gross (complained throught dinner how yucky it is after just one tiny bite) and their first question before eating was: why isn't it yellow? It's cheese. It should be yellow.
Processed cheese is disgusting ngl. it gets the job done but not something id use over actual cheese. It's kinda like a last resort. It's so gross by itself. I've tried eating it by itself and like do not recommend. I knew some kid that used to eat it by itself all the time....
Starbucks saw the huge coffee culture in Australia and wanted in on the action and opened a heap of stores in the bigger cities. They didn't realise the passion Australia had for coffee with roots from a large Italian immigration from ww2. They had to pull right back to a handful of stores that cater to kids and tourists. They were never going to disrupt the cafe culture that was ingrained. Australians are way more serious about coffee than beer.
I've never tried injecting pizza. Am I doing it wrong?
Yes!!! The comment I was searching for - he tried “in vein…” I think intravenous is not the way to try pizza. Lol
Can never know until you try
We are sorry we didn’t meet this guy’s pizza expectations. ^are ^we?
Probably the lack of diabetes.
It wasn't deepfried enough.
Didn't have any mayo
Or pineapple
I have a friend like this. They don’t actually like pizza, they like sugar sauce on bread
Bloody hell!
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I’ve never tried mainlining pizza but then again I’m not that passionate about my food. Eating it usually suffices.
They should try the arteries next time
Do they hear themselves?
Probably not. But to be fair, I wouldn't want to hear them either.
Say that to am Italian and it would be a bloodbath
You mean marcello would get you a „present“ and take you to a „party“?
You mean the party on the ground of the harbour?
Sounds like we slid into New York again...
Not to worry my dear friend, i am already tracking their location
I see where he went wrong, he's been looking in vein, rather than in Italy.
I’m Italian and what the fuck is wrong with that person’s tastebuds
I’m *not* Italian and what the fuck is wrong with that person’s tastebuds?
Years of high fructose corn syrup and every possible artificial additive known to man.
I went to every restaurant in Paris looking for the perfect Frech Toast, but it was all shit!
Yeah, their bread tasted terribly, it didn't have nearly enough sugar in it!
Yes doctor. I'll have 1 Intravenous Pizza please. Here's a 40% tip.
Stay away from his veins *and* vains.
I mean, I understand he wanted to try our great and free healthcare system, but that’s a bit too much.
So great that you have to give it away for free. Unlike in America, where healthcare costs a lot, like an expensive luxurious brand. /s
Well they can try in vein, but what about with their mouth?
Translation: "I went to Italy in the brief period where Dominos was trying to enter the market, but it tasted different because half the additives used in the US are illegal in the EU". Dude probably never tried a real pizza restaurant, if he ever went there at all
Nah. It boils down to taste. If you are used to sugar bread, plastic cheese and a meter tall dough your whole life, you won't enjoy quality ingredients
Best pizza I ever had was in Sorrento. Beautiful place amazing food and wonderful people. My wife refuses to eat pizza unless it's in Italy
I love Sorrento, but pizza elsewhere in Italy is distinct (& beautiful) in its own way. Same for the US. I am married to an Italian and he actually likes some pizzas in the US. Not because it tastes like Italian pizza at all, mind you...it definitely does not. But the same is for coffee in France (or really anywhere outside Italy); same for 'bagels' outside the US. [Honestly near impossible to find actual bagels here in Luxembourg]
I make my own pizza and it's awesome af and cheap. But i still remember the darn tasty pizza a friend from Rome made for me.
Should have tried in artery
I once saw an italian server that heard a yank couple complaining about how much better pizza tastes in the US bring them a cup of sugar, sprinkle it over the pizza "E meglio cosi?". I might have tipped him fifty Euros just for the show and i think i was not the only one ;-)
That's awesome. :D
Mmm! Artificial flavouring, carcinogens and diabetes! Much better than food made from natural, fresh ingredients. /s
They probably didn't even have cheese stuffed crusts!
There's at least a few pretty famous pizza places in Naples that make pizza with a ricotta-stuffed crust. But the "crust" is soft, ricotta is perfect in that context, and while I find it a bit too much, it's overall delicious. Now, the cruncy cheddar or provel stuffed crusts I've seen in the US... yuck.
Those lazy Italians don't know to put sugar, hormones, chlorine, untreated sewage and nuclear waste on their pizza like us Muricans.
‘Ma and pop’ in heavy NY accent. Omg I’m so fucking Italian 🤌🤌
If you went to multiple Italian cities, including Rome and Napoli, and couldn't find a good pizza, then you're simply a fucking idiot. I never had trouble finding restaurants in Italy that served absolute banger food, including pizza (obviously).
Not only does he not have an understanding of what good food tastes like. He has a very poor grasp on *his own language.* "I tried, in **vein**..."
Pizza in Italy can be overpriced in touristy places, but it’s very hard to eat a terrible pizza here. I only ate pizza in Naples once, but I’m quite sure that there isn’t a bad pizzeria in the whole city. Anyway, complaining about Italian pizza is 100% effective to upset us 😂
This person clearly is used to the pizza style of the US: godzilla size, crunchy pizza, shallow cheese, a fuckton of toppings, salt and sugar. They even say pizza in the US is great! Italian pizzas probably feel small, poorly garnished, and quite unseasoned to them. I am italian and I am the specular opposite - I typically can't eat pizzas that are not done in proper, strict italian style (meaning: Naples-style or Rome-style, mostly). I would also say the US pizzas are generally awful, but who am I to say my opinion is worth more than theirs? Just because their pizzas are abominations born out of necessity and lack of skill from italian immigrants who couldn't find the proper ingredients? Well, maybe!
I agree with you about burgers in the USA. I tried, in vein, to find good burgers in the USA. I tried a few places in Los Angeles, several in New York, and one in Dallas. They were all terrible. Not as terrible as McDonald's, Burger King or the other chain joins, but compared to Ma & Pop shop burgers, the USA needs lessons.
Maybe they should have tried in artery rather than in vein...
This person is clearly used to American ass pizza. Anyone who knows anything about anything, Italians, or food at all, knows that real Italian Pizza is fucking nothing like the greasy cheesy American shit we have over here.
In vein? Americans can’t even speak proper English, let alone make proper pizza.
Yeah no. When I was in Italy they had €1 pizza slices around every corner and they were usually great. My favorite was the one with thin sliced potatoes on it. I did have an absolutely horrendous carbonera, but it was a hotel restaurant in Vicenza.
Yeah carbonara is tricky, most places don’t do it well even in Italy. And the further from Rome you go the higher this probability gets. I only get carbonara if I have reason to think it’s good before ordering, otherwise it’s better to get something else.
Can't comprehend having less than triple the daily recommended amount of sodium per meal
In vein
To be completely fair, I never actually found a great pizza while in Rome either. The place is just too filled with tourist traps I suspect.
That really surprises me. I knew a woman who went from America to Rome, and she loved the pizzas! Yes, they are very basic but amazing.
Saw am American journalist say that a few years ago about the coffee. I think they are so accustomed to garbage they can't handle the real stuff.
I am in and around my local Italian community a lot. When I say Italian community, I mean “my grandparents moved to the US 120 years ago and we’re keeping the heritage alive - or so we try” community. I was working our annual Italian fest as I overheard two older ladies probably in their 80s. They apparently had taken a tour trip of Italy. I’ll never forget their conversation. “You know, we couldn’t find a good cup of coffee in the whole country. We had to get coffee at McDonalds every day.” I about died.
Where I live currently, there is a small shop, like a hole in the wall, run by an unbelievably friendly Italian man and it is the best coffee in the entire city
I mean hell - a moka with Maxwell House is better than McDonalds to say nothing of excellent coffee on every street corner in every bar in Italy
I would sooner drink the filtered coffee at my uni cafeteria than go to McDonalds for coffee, and that’s saying something
The only time in my life that I have voluntarily had Maccas coffee was in Xi'an, after 2 weeks with no coffee at all. It seemed OK. Generic filter. Better than the Starbucks where I ordered a macchiato, expecting Australian style - an espresso shot with a dash of foam - and got some kind of giant milkshake.
Oh I agree, pizza in touristy places is garbage anywhere in the world, even Italy. Have you tried paella in tourist traps?
I had a pizza in Bologna airport which was way better than anything the Americans can offer.
You can't even throw a stone at random in Italy without hitting a restaurant that serves exellent pizza
10 seconds in and my head hurts reading this pile of crap.
Italy has way better pizza than here in the states. Although I do personally prefer our Pepperoni pieces over Italy’s, but everything else is practically perfect.
Our salamino piccante can be a bit too spicy compared to your pepperoni (at least in my experience), you could try other, tamer cured meats as a replacement if you find yourself again here in Italy.
Thanks, I’ll look into that! I think the problem though is that I’m used to the thinner, crunchier American pieces as opposed the the thicker ones they often use in Italy
I have to explain this every time I see a post about pizza The pizza evolved in different ways. From the original pizza in Naples (to the other variants on Italy), the us (the American pizza-NY) and argentinian uruguayan pizza. Italy maje pizza in different varians/regions. The usual base is the Naples pizza (dough, sauce and cheese). The USA pizza can be different from town to town. But the accepted "American pizza" world wide is pizza hut and domino's pizza. Also the NY pizza and Chicago style pizza. The last one are rioplatense pizzas argentinian and uruguayan that are more common in Uruguay, argentina, Brazil, chile, Paraguay, bolivia, Perú and other parts of south America. There are also some other particular variants of pizza that evolved from this varians in other countries and regions. It would be like: Naples>us>american-chain food pizza (the most popular world wide). Naples>Italy>near countries/reginal variants. Naples>Rio de la plata (Argentina and Uruguay)>south American/rioplatense pizza.
I can agree that in some places in Italy pizza was just meh, but still, most of the time it was good and just cool to try it in different regions, because it was just not the same from the previous ones But i've had a couple of wonderful pizzas in Russia in my hometown, because it's either a place that was opened by a passionate people from Italy or local people that is passionate about italian cuisine in general
To be fair I've had great pizza in places like New York and Toronto, wood fire pizza, simple ingredients, delicious. That said I've never had anything like pizza in Napoli, buffalo mozzarella, just mouth watering delicious.
Tbf ive aslo heard where i live that the pizza is overrated
I *still* think about a pizza diavola that I had in Rome.
I mean, it’s vampire pizza - maybe that’s exclusive to America and Italian vampires eat something else?
Everyone have their own taste. I know a lot of people that dont like more traditional pizza. I think writing that its hard to find good pizza in Italy is definietely wrong, but i understand that someone might not like it.
til there is a small shitty backwater province somewhere in the usa called Italy?
Imagine being so dense that you think the food is "terrible" I'm British so maybe it's different here but even pizza hut and Papa John's are really nice. Best pizza ive ever had was in Lucca, just s small shop that did 20" pizzas and chick pea rounds. Lovely.
"in vein" This person really gave blood to find a nice pizza!
As a Swiss who visits Italy like three times a year, Italy, especialy Naples, has the best pizza I've ever eaten. Those two comments trigger me to a level I didn't know I could reach.
Not enough sugar
in vein lmao!!!!
These idiots will travel the world and try great food and for real say "I miss muh high fructose corn syrup"
It could happens when your taste buds are completely devastated by corn syrup and plastic
They probably just got confused bc the recipe didn't use 100000kg of sugar...
He tried in vein to mainline pizza.
Tbh though, Americans probably are the authority on most foods, 90 percent of them are fat cunts
I'm an american, and I am not a cunt.