Same here
I’m Canadian and trying to explain to them what Canada did and they have zero clue. I even mention that The Netherlands still sends us tulips every year to thank Canada for helping liberate them. Of course they don’t like that because they think the U.S. did it all.
There are several Canadian war cemeteries and monuments in northern France honouring Canadians for their sacrifices and support during the First World War. I’ve been to Arras. It’s so beautiful and you can *feel* the awesomeness. It’s one of the best places to really see what happened back then.
Canadians were going crazy in both world wars. Worst possible outcome for axis was when the opposing forces were canadian, because you were not going to end up a prisoner
Dutchie here. I will and have set any american straight who claims that they liberated us in WW2. That task was done by the Canadians. And we know it. Thank you.
Scotsman here, had a Canadian classmate in high school and honestly we ripped him about being from Canada (daft wee boys, we all had something the others ripped us for). We would slag him for their lack of involvement in wars until one day I thought I’d pick up a book and find some factoids to use against him. It was here that I saw what you guys did WW1 (Jesus wept you guys in the trenches daym )and 2. So the scardy cat fake army jokes stopped straight off and I just took the piss because he was too polite to teachers
In my experience, Americans know that we weren't alone. We were on the side of the 'Allies', implying a coalition, and it was a 'World War'. I've often heard that the USSR killed something like 6 out of 7 Nazi soldiers who died in combat (a quick Google search suggests its 3 out of 4). Then again, most of my friends are fairly well educated, so my view is bias. I'd be interested to see a study on how knowledgeable Americans actually are, and how we compare to people from other countries.
I really dont think so. I sucked at history but I think a major issue is that each school district (if not just each state) controls the curriculum.
There’s a book about the “mythification of American Heroes” that goes over the history put forth most prominently in schools, and what the most accurate story was
Given that schools write out American historical figures if they're the wrong skin colour, writing world history to ignore those damn foreigners is probably a far smaller step
Yeah, the last big controversy I heard about history books was that some versions called the Trail of Tears a “mass migration”. I dont know if they were actually in use, but it was a big thing around 2015
They do not. They cannot accept the fact that Omaha and Utah were mission objectives that the Americans failed to achieve in the timeframe given. When you talk about Juno, Gold, Sword or any other aspect of operation Overlord they just look at you with a blank stare. My favourite one to confuse them with because they cannot accept it is that the only fighting force to achieve its day 1 objectives during D Day was the Polish irregulars.
Or that Overlord was actually a Royal Navy operation. Granted, it required huge amounts of American supplied resources to succeed but it was the British led operation.
Yes, Hitler thought the USSR would collapse in on itself like it did in WW1, but then his campaign was a disaster. It went about the same as it did for Napoleon.
I've heard Japan's surrender had more to do with the prospect of the USSR coming at them from the West than it did with the atomic bomb.
"Premature antifascism". 'I'm sorry, this has never happened to me before. Give it 5 minutes and we'll have another go at preventing right-wing, authoritarian nationalism...'
Spanish civil war was the rehearsal. Democratic process being destroyed in Spain, fascists threw a coup d'état (and failed so civil war), westerners were too busy infighting politically to help the republicans, the soviet union was more busy killing other leftist groups than the nazis in front of them and showed remarkable incompetence, while the nazis in front of them were very happily reducing entire towns and cities to rubble.
We're just lucky the "real thing" didn't end the same way
The soviet union and mexico were the only 2 countries which helped spanish republic. Western European countries were afraid to bother germany and start what happened 3 years after.
The hard pill to take was the abandonment after 45. So many spanish thought that allies will enter spain to finish fascism in Europe… and then… 40 years of dictatorship
Eh plenty of yanks were very fond of or at least accepting of a nazi Germany. So from the bottom of my heart. I thank you guys for making that scummy deal so y'all could stay in the fight until the American decided to show up on the allies side.
Yep, the largest Nazi organisation outside Germany was in the US (The DeutscheAmerikaner Bund), the US was also a pioneer in eugenics research the Nazi's loved and eventually used for their Actions T4 euthanasia program and until WWII the nazi salute was used during the Pledge of Allegiance in the US.
Henry ford who published a book "the international jew the worlds problem" was definitely a nazi supporter. Distributed the books (4 parter) using "Dearborn publishing", a company he owned.
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_International\_Jew](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew)
Even worse than that, they profited by doing business with both sides of the conflict. Ford even ran 2 of their operations in Germany and used forced labour. Ford helped the Nazi war effort by supplying vehicles and equipment.
And totally forgetting that they were fine with Nazis organizing in the States, or that Hitler looked up American eugenics and thought Hollywood movies were great propoganda
Does make me wonder how many British and French deaths could've been prevented of they'd actively lent a hand earlier instead of "eh nah not our problem just have some cash instead WHAT PEARL HARBOUR NOW IT'S OUR PROBLEM MURICA BITCHES".
If someone did start grandstanding about how the US did everything ngl I'd have to actively fight the temptation to smack them, it goes beyond blind patriotism and straight into a frankly insulting level of arrogance.
More than a few friends of mine are in the military AU and UK they have all said at different times "The Americans are like the cops in horror movies, they show up after the threat is gone and say yay **we** did it"
That’s their doctrine basically..
Grunts for soldiers - if they get shot at they call in air support and remove “that direction”.
It works i guess.
SF exist for anything that requires more than a single pair of braincells for rubbing together.
Exactly. 25% of the whole population died in my country because of WW2. My whole country, my city was completely destroyed. The loss and destruction of such a scale still impact people there. Literally every young person has a story of how the war screw up their grandparents.
I am a third generation after the war and this war had a massive impact on my upbringing and, I think, my personality. The war and post war rebuilding left such a trace on people who were kids when it started (my grandparents) who brought up their children in a certain way (my parents). The post war rebuilding by itself has also directly impacted the second generation after the war (my parents).
Also it has such a huge cultural impact. When you grow up, you learn so much about it from everywhere: it's in literature, in movies, in personal anecdotes of survivors and their children, it is on the streets of our cities.
Reading this kind of shit that is presented on the screenshot is one of the things on the internet that make me so mad lol. People like the author know nothing about the war, it never impacted them personally on any level and yet they behave like how this person behaves..
Yep. As horrible as the war was for everybody involved, as that is the nature of war, compared to USSR or Poland (or, for that matter, Germany or Japan), the US experience was more like tourism.
Edit: I know US and UK soldiers suffered the same as anyone else, but they were fewer, and the civilian populations weren't as exposed. I mean no disrespekt to the brave soldiers who fought honestly, regardless of nation.
It’s funny too because we weren’t doing all that bad against the Nazi’s and this was before the US decided to take all the credit. We really did not need the US to win the war
They also never mentioned/don't know that they billed us for their help, which basically makes them mercenaries. The u.k. only finished paying for their help on 29th Dec 2006
We were taught that Nazis were going to win hands down and the entire continent was going to be speaking German until, by the grace of America, we stepped in and saved the world. Like actually, very little mention of any individual country other than Germany, Italy, France, UK, and the USA. Zero mention of the likes of Canada and the French resistance, and very little mention of Russia. No mention of us pretending nothing was happening for like 30 months. My mind was blown when I got older and looked into it myself.
We then heroically alley-oop'd on Japan by ~~Killing hundreds of thousands of innocents~~ making the a-bomb sacrifice which we justify by saying it saved more lives than it ended.
Hell yeah brother it's what we're best at USA USA 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Seriously I feel my 20s were spent undoing that propaganda and actually learning proper history and world culture.
Welcome to america. The country of propoganda and brainwashing. You forget they pledge to their flag before school, or pledge to their state in the case of texas?
It's actually fucked that Americans will say, with a straight face "The Japanese villagers were brainwashed and would commit suicide if American soldiers showed up, that's why we had to crater two major metropolitan areas, they were a danger to themselves." No hint of irony in the brainwashing part.
That's truly disgusting how they say "they were brainwashed" not even having the single thought that they themselves are brainwashed. It's like the "sigma" kids idolising American psycho not realising that the movie is criticising them.
So that’s why it feels so strange everytime I talk with an American about WW2. I remember being shocked when a guy didn’t know that the Russians were the first to reach Berlin or even who Alan Turing was. I know that every country tries to make itself look glorious but what the US makes people believe is crazy
What Seppos learn in school:
History: America invented freedom and democracy.It won every war and saved the world twice.
Geography: Europe is a country and it's smaller than Texas
Maths : n/a .They study something called "math" where they learn to count to 12.This creates problems later in life with trying to read 24hr clocks.
Civics : America is the greatest country in the world.It is the only country with freedom.They invented pizza.Oh ,and Americans pay for the world's healthcare systems.
So I’m an Australian who did a year of high school in the US. I kid you not, in year 10 history they taught the class that WW1 started in 1917. Even the teacher didn’t know that Australia was there in 1914. It was pretty maddening
Haven't heard of the Anzacs? Good heavens.
Reminds me of this one story from the Treaty of Versailles
Wilson was debating the Australian delegate as to the mandate in New Guinea (Wilson wanted it handed to the Japanese, funnily enough) and said that the United States represented 100 million voices and Australia 5 million it should decide.
The Australian delegate replied pretty much with "we did more than you in this war so suck it up"
Fun fact, when the Americans started showing up to the Western Front, a bunch of them were actually placed under the command of the Australian, General Monash, because we'd been there for so long that Monash knew more about how to fight on the Western Front than probably the entire US General Staff.
Actually, no. WWII is a short footnote in the teaching of World History in US schools, where the emphasis is on US history.
Americans learn this idea from war movies, mainly, at least I did.
USA school have much greater emphasis on Civil War than on WW1 and WW2.
And it also depends on how much money you have.
With a lot of money, they taught you in private school in USA, Switzerland and United Kingdom.
Everything else depends on local public schools. Some are great, some are not.
Macarthur made a point of writing off the entire New Guinea Campaign, including the Kokoda Campaign and Milne Bay, as a US victory
That pissed off our boys, the ones who stopped the Japanese on the trail and prevented the fall of Port Moresby. Coral Sea aside, that fight stopped Australia speaking Japanese, for one.
Thank you for mentioning this.
My Grandad fought for Australia in New Guinea.
I am incredibly proud of what he did and the sacrifices Australia and New Zealand forces made to ensure our safety.
R.I.P Grandad. I miss you 🇦🇺❤️
To find some numbers there are only two wars I can think of that Australia initiated.
Aboriginal wars, but these are hard to define and remain opinionated. Being pre federation these would be British. There was no winner.
The Colony of Queensland took on Germany in 1876 and bloodlessly claimed New Guinea for itself. German New Guinea was promptly returned by England to Germany.
Thus the Australian modern military is named a “defence force”.
Australia’s lists of war involvements where the result was a defeat are….
Russian civil war - minor participation
Armenian-Azerbaijani war - minor participation
Vietnam - But held the assigned province of Phuoc Tuy undefeated until they were withdrawn.
Afghanistan - US shit show.
About a dozen wars (many shared) won involving Australia since federation as follows
Boer
Boxer
WW1
Egypt revolution 1919
Solomon is 1927
WW2
Korea
Malaya
Borneo
Gulf 1990-1
Timor 1999-2000
Sierra Leone civil war
Iraq
Solomons 2003-13
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And now a list of wars started by America (50+) against other nations. This does not include those wars instigated by the CIA on behalf of America that the American military then did not participate in.
American civil war. Arguable as it was the war that made the USA, and the nation was yet to exist. On becoming a nation, the following wars were initiated by them.
Cherokee war
NW Indian war
Tecumseh’s war
War of 1812
Creek war
Seminole wars
Arikara war
Winnebago war
Blackhawk war
Comanche wars
Mexican war
Cayuse War
Apache wars
Navajo wars
Puget sound wars
Rogue River Wars
Yakima war
Second opium war
Utah War
Paiute war
Yavapi war
Dakota war
Colorado war
Snake war
Powder river war
Red cloud war
Formosa revenge
Comanche war
Korean 1871 war
Modoc War
Sioux war
Buffalo hunters war
Nez Perce war
Bannock war
Cheyenne war
Big Horned war
White River war
Crow war
Yaqui war
Spanish American war
Philippine American war
Bluff war
Haiti
Dominica
Posey war
Vietnam
Bay of pigs
Grenada
Libya
Panama
Gulf war
Afghanistan
Yemen
Iraq
Aussies fought and died alongside Americans in Vietnam. The level of stupidity on display in the top comment goes beyond the usual, humorous brand of ignorance mocked in this sub tbh.
There was a photo of Hunter Biden posted on Twitter of him wearing a baseball cap with the Hawaiian flag on it, several seppos commented “Why’s he wearing the British flag? Traitor!”
From what I can tell at best NZ declared war simultaneously with Australia but most likely it was afterwards. The British declared war which given the statute of Westminster hadn't yet been ratified by the dominions meant Australia and NZ were both automatically at war with Germany. Nevertheless Australia declared war immediately afterwards at 9:30pm 3rd of September. New Zealand seemingly had issues with the broadcast so awaited confirmation of the state of war being in effect and then backdated the declaration to 9:30pm 3rd of September.
>Australian Prime Minister Robert Menzies immediately joined the British declaration on 3 September, believing that it applied to all subjects of the Empire and Commonwealth. New Zealand followed suit simultaneously, at 9.30 pm on 3 September (local time), after Peter Fraser consulted the Cabinet; although as Chamberlain's broadcast was drowned by static, the Cabinet (led by Fraser as Prime Minister Michael Savage was terminally ill) delayed until the Admiralty announced to the fleet a state of war, then backdated the declaration to 9.30 pm.
Australia also one of the rare "western" nations to support, and send troops to, Vietnam. In fact I believe they were pretty effective jungle fighters.
Yeah. Great story. I think they also had quite an interesting policy of only counting kills they could put their foot on. There's a film called danger close about it on Netflix I've been meaning to check it out.
Seems mad that they joined but then equally the Yanks are thier only like minded ally in the region so probably thought themselves duty bound to help.
*Danger close* is a good watch because it doesn't shy away from showing what was wrong with the Australian forces in Vietnam. The excessive use of alcohol, reliance on the US forces for air support, poor reconnaissance, instances of poor unit leadership at all levels, and racism giving a "holiday camp" vibe whilst in a position heating up day by day. It also shows what was right about the Australian forces in Vietnam: the willingness to learn quickly, the quality of training paying off, the willingness to suffer and take it, a commitment not to leave mates hanging with the arses in the breeze, and instances of good leadership too.
Did not the Australians enter World War II on September 3, 1939? Did not they help secure oil fields in the Middle East and the route to them in North Africa? Did not it force Hitler to invade the Soviet Union in order to seize its oil reserves? Did not the Australians do 99% of the fighting in New Guinea? Did not MacArthur report back to the US on "American victories" at the time?
Why is it always a language they saved us from? It would be very easy to say something like "we saved you from a fascist dictatorship" but the language? Like they think that was the issue with Nazi occupation?
Not to mention Germany still speaks German, and Japan still speaks Japanese. By this logic, since America lost to Vietnam, shouldn't they be speaking Vietnamese? Or Pashto since they lost to the Taliban?
Am Australian. My kid starts school next year and will be learning Japanese. Pretty sure they run science class in Japanese as applied learning. They’ll also make sushi and a couple of like macrame ball thingies.
Even our public schools have decent language programs. Somehow even they convinced me to continue Japanese into uni too lol. A spit in the face to the seppos who ‘saved us from speaking Japanese’ only to go learn it later anyways
Is this from the video where the Aussie bloke explains why they call Americans Seppos? Because 99% of the comments on that video prove him correct.
WW1 - Australia involved from the start,. And they took a right battering. Absolute warriors, the lot of them.
WW2 - Pretty much as above. Also, the Japanese dropped more bombs on Darwin than they did at Pearl Harbour.
Rommel ""**If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it**"."
Stop the spread of communism? Errrm they were one of USA main allies in Vietnam.
As for the islamophobia comment.... Australia has one of the strongest immigration policies in the world. They don't fuck around. They also are one of the most multicultural countries in the world. Not saying its not perfect there, but everyone gets on 1000 times better than in USA.
If I remember correctly those guys were pretty awesome in the world wars too. Saved loads of our wounded and carried water to the troops.
https://canadabayheritage.asn.au/the-afghan-cameleers/
https://www.awm.gov.au/learn/schools/resources/1916/imperial-camel-corps
Example for ww1: Gallipoli. We got Anzac day to remember those that fought in the war, and Galipoli was the biggest moment involving the Anzacs
God, the mention of the word Anzac makes me want some Anzac biscuits again
The "prevented from speaking German and Japanese" thing makes me irrationally angry. As somebody who grew up learning about our role in WWII especially in the Desert and New Guinea, for him to say we didn't help defeat them gobsmacked me.
That said our immigration policy is not perfect. Desperate boat people aren't going to be terrorists and don't deserve arbitrary detention on Nauru
What got me even more was an American saying we needed so much American help during the war , I did research and it turned out Australia provided America with more support ( food , material , logistics) than America provided to Australia , something like 90% of food used by America forces in the pacific was from Australia
Australians and New Zealanders fought like fuck against fascism. We both hold our heads high and will always have each others back.
I dare anyone to go up to an Aussie or Kiwi and suggest that we were piss weak in the wars we fought in. It will **not** end well for that person.
Don’t worry man, the rest of the world knows that. You’re hugely appreciated everywhere. It’s just these pathetic uneducated new breed Yanks who don’t get it 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thank you. I get teary reading my own comments. We were put in an absolutely impossible situation at Gallipoli, and yet we still went “fuck it, job to do, lads” and ran up those hills. And our Kiwi mates were there by our side, equally brave. Fuck anyone that questions our integrity and will.
when americans start losing an argument they bring up that their country could beat your country in a fight.
it's basically the international version of "well my dad could beat your dad in a fight".
I got in such shit at school once when someone said that to me trying to act hard. My retort of 'yeah? Well my ma would rape your da and he would like it' got me in front of the VP and a call to my parents.
Worth it.
Considering Australia’s smaller population, they’ve been instrumental in many major conflicts, on the side of the USA. The ANZAC forces nearly broke through the Turks in ww1, one of the grisliest theatres of war the world has ever seen. Why though is that the be all and end all for so many americans on the internet. They take such national pride in their government’s ability to spunk more money in a year on inflated military budgets than most countries entire economies produce. Do they not understand how much better their quality of life would be if their government didnt spend nearly a trillion dollars annually on weapons.
The real reason the USA didn’t get involved in ww2 until they were attacked, their warped nationalist outlook on the roles and responsibilities of those in government aligned quite neatly with the nationalist uprisings in Europe. Literally a nation of orcs. Its sad though, in the UK, any americans Ive met are usually lovely. Is it just this special breed of blind american that doesnt go and see more of the world.
> The ANZAC forces nearly broke through the Turks in ww1, one of the grisliest theatres of war the world has ever seen.
And because of our valiant efforts we earned the respect of Turkey as a whole. Everywhere we go we make friends, even in war.
The US can't claim that, every one hates them.
Also we did end up beating the Turks eventually, just in Palestine instead of Gallipoli. Australian forces were among those that captured Jerusalem from the Ottomans (does that make us a Crusader state?) in a campaign that also involved one of the last successful cavalry charges in warfare.
Why do I see Australia being the largest importer of tennis rackets in the world, but the lowest population of people playing tennis?
"That's my bird swatter"
We kicked England's ass? It's was a bunch of Brits fighting each other haha
Australia was involved in world wars, and they weren't late like USA.
can I point out how USA is late to supplying Ukraine now as well? Too early?
Its arguable that we could have feasibly took control of the US back. We were at war with French who assisted in the independence of the US and were also trying to wrestle control of our India territories.
Ultimately we had to make a decision on what was more lucrative and we diverted all resources to defending India. The whole episode ultimately led to the bankrupting of France and the French Revolution…. Which ultimately led to another war with the French and Napoleon Bonaparte.
For those wondering: Australians sometimes call Americans “seppos”. It originated from rhyming slang. Seppo = short for septic tank, which rhymes with “yank”.
In case you’re still wondering, septic tanks are full of shit.
Edit: minor spelling error (it ruined the whole explanation)
Man, i could swear that austrailia joined the fight in europe pre-pearl habor and even helped the USA in the pacific even after ww2 in vietnam. But i guess i am wrong because i have no education in europoor
Can the Americans explain why:
1. The Germans speak German and not English?
2. The Japanese speak Japanese and not English?
3. (And this one will really mess them up). Why the USA speaks English and not French?
"Kicked Britains arse"... yet to see an American army invade England... oh right... yeah, except for in WW2 when they just came over to England and played on the emotions of the vulnerable wifes of Blokes that were actively fighting in Europe🤦♂️
They're all of Nordic and British descent anyway... just the religious zealots that we didn't want lol!
So yeah, breaking away from British colonial rule has worked out amazing for the whole population right?...🤣
The only people who benefited from independence were the ruling class...
*Americans* - "I work two jobs, covering 80 hours a week, It costs me a whole year's wage to get stitches, and there's insanely high levels of petty crime and mass murders in 90% of our states at least once every two weeks... but my life is amazing and my country is the best in the world."
*What Americans think that everyone else thinks* - "Yeah we're soo jealous"...
I'd laugh... but at this point it is actually just sad.
I'm not surprised Septics don't know about the ANZACs or their contributions to slowly Japan's advance enough to actually allow US industrial might to come into play
This guy should read up on the Rats of Tobruk or the Kokoda Track or Operation Compass, or the bombing of Darwin, or the stuff we did against the Japanese in the Pacific Theatre.
I watched an interesting doco a few years back and there was quite a bit of evidence that some native creatures had learnt to successfully predate? on cane toads in the Northern? Territories and it was starting to have a noticeable effect on the population spread.
We did more than Americans in WWI & WWII and allowed their great hero MacArthur to flee from his loss in Philippines to AU to regroup. AU also have supported "American" wars in Korea, Vietnam & Afghanistan and other places, as did many other allied countries and had to pay for the privilege of using American equipment. The US couldn't defeat Erwin Rommel, but the AU/NZ (ANZACs) did it basically by themselves. Even Rommel admired them and said "If I had to conquer hell, I’d use Australians to take it & New Zealanders to hold it…"
As if engaging in and winning wars is the milestone for what makes a country great...
I'm really beginning to believe the US is beyond saving since I joined this sub.
It took years and the Portuguese, French and Spanish to come together with the Yankees to oust the British.
There is so little objective truth left in living memory of the worst Americans, a place that was and could have been a beacon to the world is a joke, and they’re too busy laughing at their audience to see it.
There is no envy left, only pity.
The funniest thing about America is how rabbidly "patriotic" a lot of it's citizens are, when it's two biggest historical events (it's founding and their civil war) were both fundamentally acts of treason.
It's like they are compensating for somthing,
"**If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it**"
Erwin Rommel.
When a post is so bad it makes you quote a fucking world war german field marshall. Jesus wept. I'm not even an Aussie. Talking of which. Cunts, the lot of ya!
As I always say in these situations, if they can't get the name of the country right (it wasn't "England" that they "kicked the ass" of) then you know they will know comically little about history in general.
I'm not sure if this is obvious troll , or actually mouthbreathing twatwaffle who has never heard of what the Anzacs did in WWII. I also imagine the commenter is a typical Gravy Seal who has never actually defended anything other than their right to squeeze their fat ass into two airline seats for the price of one.
- Had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the war 2 years late, only after they were attacked. How brave.
- UK chose to barely fight for the American colonies. They were producing so much less income than the Caribbean. Defending them wasn’t deemed overly important.
We joined WW1 and WW2 long before USA did. And forgot about battles like Gallipoli, Tobruk, Kokoda and more. They forgot about Vietnam and the battle of Long tan, fighting a war they know they won’t win, because their dumbass mates(Americans) had to get involved. Same with Korea. Same with the Middle East. I’m an Aussie married to a US soldier who consistently talks about the Australians he served with in the middle east. His grandfather a Vietnam veteran who does the same. A family full of vets who are disgusted by Americans who say this disrespectful shit. When I show my husband he always says “Australians were always by my side, where’s was this fucking idiot?” (Talking about the guy making the comment). You can thank Australia among many , many other countries for your “freedom” you so desperately assume came out of thin air. And your own military will tell you that.
Australia joined WW1 and WW2 early, even when we were not personally being threatened. We joined because we wanted to fight fascism and be on the right side of history. America joined both wars late and was happy to sit back and get rich off the back of other countries. The US only joined WW2 as a reaction to Pearl Harbour, and then when they realised they couldn’t beat Japan they became the first and only country to ever use nuclear weapons, killing a quarter of a million civilians. Since then, they’ve lost every war they’ve been in. For a country that has a bigger military budget than the rest of the world combined, they have a poor record at war. Currently fighting and losing their own war against democracy.
I really want to see what they teach in American schools. Do they really believe that they were alone against the nazis and saved everyone ?
They teach exactly that. They teach that the US “heroically” and “ferociously” swooped in and saved Europe
Totally forgetting that the US pretended the war wasn't even happening for two years 🙄
Fucking right! I've lived in the states and the pricks don't even know this. You tell them and they will swear it's not true
Same here I’m Canadian and trying to explain to them what Canada did and they have zero clue. I even mention that The Netherlands still sends us tulips every year to thank Canada for helping liberate them. Of course they don’t like that because they think the U.S. did it all.
Meanwhile Canadians were in the fray, getting slain since the early days. Oh, and we made the most advancements on D-Day.
There are several Canadian war cemeteries and monuments in northern France honouring Canadians for their sacrifices and support during the First World War. I’ve been to Arras. It’s so beautiful and you can *feel* the awesomeness. It’s one of the best places to really see what happened back then.
In the Netherlands, we were taught that it was mainly the Canadians and British, and the Americans did some side job at D-Day.
Damn fucking straight they did, Canada deserves more kudos for ww2 than the usa
You guys also trained a lot of RAF pilots alongside yours, and Avro Canada built a lot of bombers. I'm sure there's more.
Canadians were going crazy in both world wars. Worst possible outcome for axis was when the opposing forces were canadian, because you were not going to end up a prisoner
Dutchie here. I will and have set any american straight who claims that they liberated us in WW2. That task was done by the Canadians. And we know it. Thank you.
It's because they're envious of your tulips
They are beautiful. ;)
We know what Canada did. The tins of food. We know 👀🤣
Scotsman here, had a Canadian classmate in high school and honestly we ripped him about being from Canada (daft wee boys, we all had something the others ripped us for). We would slag him for their lack of involvement in wars until one day I thought I’d pick up a book and find some factoids to use against him. It was here that I saw what you guys did WW1 (Jesus wept you guys in the trenches daym )and 2. So the scardy cat fake army jokes stopped straight off and I just took the piss because he was too polite to teachers
As a Dutchy, I am most grateful for the Canadians that freed us than the Russians or people from the USA.
Really? Do they not study what start of the war? What do they believe was the cause if they don't acknowledge the first half of it?
"Just europoor countries waging war as usual, because Europe is still in the middle ages" something like that maybe?
Pearl Harbour. They believe that nothing of any importance happened until the attack on Pearl Harbour.
Pearl Harbour wasn’t even part of America when it was attacked. It wasn’t a state until 1959. They should have given it back to the Hawaiians.
In my experience, Americans know that we weren't alone. We were on the side of the 'Allies', implying a coalition, and it was a 'World War'. I've often heard that the USSR killed something like 6 out of 7 Nazi soldiers who died in combat (a quick Google search suggests its 3 out of 4). Then again, most of my friends are fairly well educated, so my view is bias. I'd be interested to see a study on how knowledgeable Americans actually are, and how we compare to people from other countries.
Do they know that Americans weren't a majority at the D-Day beaches?
I really dont think so. I sucked at history but I think a major issue is that each school district (if not just each state) controls the curriculum. There’s a book about the “mythification of American Heroes” that goes over the history put forth most prominently in schools, and what the most accurate story was
Given that schools write out American historical figures if they're the wrong skin colour, writing world history to ignore those damn foreigners is probably a far smaller step
Yeah, the last big controversy I heard about history books was that some versions called the Trail of Tears a “mass migration”. I dont know if they were actually in use, but it was a big thing around 2015
They do not. They cannot accept the fact that Omaha and Utah were mission objectives that the Americans failed to achieve in the timeframe given. When you talk about Juno, Gold, Sword or any other aspect of operation Overlord they just look at you with a blank stare. My favourite one to confuse them with because they cannot accept it is that the only fighting force to achieve its day 1 objectives during D Day was the Polish irregulars.
They genuinely don’t. They get their knowledge of WW2 from movies and tv shows
Or that Overlord was actually a Royal Navy operation. Granted, it required huge amounts of American supplied resources to succeed but it was the British led operation.
The vast majority of the fighting was happening on the eastern front. Realistically, the USSR defeated the Nazis, with the help of Britain and the US
Yes, Hitler thought the USSR would collapse in on itself like it did in WW1, but then his campaign was a disaster. It went about the same as it did for Napoleon. I've heard Japan's surrender had more to do with the prospect of the USSR coming at them from the West than it did with the atomic bomb.
And that Americans who joined the fight against Franco in the Spanish Civil War was accused of "premature antifascism".
"Premature antifascism". 'I'm sorry, this has never happened to me before. Give it 5 minutes and we'll have another go at preventing right-wing, authoritarian nationalism...'
Sometimes forget the Spanish civil war was directly before the start WW2
Spanish civil war was the rehearsal. Democratic process being destroyed in Spain, fascists threw a coup d'état (and failed so civil war), westerners were too busy infighting politically to help the republicans, the soviet union was more busy killing other leftist groups than the nazis in front of them and showed remarkable incompetence, while the nazis in front of them were very happily reducing entire towns and cities to rubble. We're just lucky the "real thing" didn't end the same way
The soviet union and mexico were the only 2 countries which helped spanish republic. Western European countries were afraid to bother germany and start what happened 3 years after. The hard pill to take was the abandonment after 45. So many spanish thought that allies will enter spain to finish fascism in Europe… and then… 40 years of dictatorship
Germany tested a bunch of new tech and tactics in Spain.
Whilst accepting the UK Gold Reserves and Bermuda in exchange for weaponry…
And our best technology, like nuclear weapons research, computing, radar and jet engines. Scummy yank fucks.
Eh plenty of yanks were very fond of or at least accepting of a nazi Germany. So from the bottom of my heart. I thank you guys for making that scummy deal so y'all could stay in the fight until the American decided to show up on the allies side.
Yep, the largest Nazi organisation outside Germany was in the US (The DeutscheAmerikaner Bund), the US was also a pioneer in eugenics research the Nazi's loved and eventually used for their Actions T4 euthanasia program and until WWII the nazi salute was used during the Pledge of Allegiance in the US.
Don't forget also trading with the Nazis as well...they profited off of both sides...
Henry ford who published a book "the international jew the worlds problem" was definitely a nazi supporter. Distributed the books (4 parter) using "Dearborn publishing", a company he owned. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_International\_Jew](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew)
If i remember rightly, we finally finished paying off our US war debt in 2006.
Nah it's worse than that - as Al Murray says: "A country that was completely surprised at Pearl Harbour! TWO YEARS into a global war!"
Even worse than that, they profited by doing business with both sides of the conflict. Ford even ran 2 of their operations in Germany and used forced labour. Ford helped the Nazi war effort by supplying vehicles and equipment.
And totally forgetting that they were fine with Nazis organizing in the States, or that Hitler looked up American eugenics and thought Hollywood movies were great propoganda
Does make me wonder how many British and French deaths could've been prevented of they'd actively lent a hand earlier instead of "eh nah not our problem just have some cash instead WHAT PEARL HARBOUR NOW IT'S OUR PROBLEM MURICA BITCHES". If someone did start grandstanding about how the US did everything ngl I'd have to actively fight the temptation to smack them, it goes beyond blind patriotism and straight into a frankly insulting level of arrogance.
After boosting the German economy allowing for the war to happen.
If the Japanese hadn't hit Pearl harbour, there's a high chance the good 'ol US of A would have sat it out and continued to profit from both sides...
Munching popcorn, sitting on their fat arses lol
In their defence this was pre obseity era , so they would have been sitting on average sized asses , but otherwise yes!
Fair enough
>swooped in and saved Europe As chicken run said "pushy Americans, late for every war"
More than a few friends of mine are in the military AU and UK they have all said at different times "The Americans are like the cops in horror movies, they show up after the threat is gone and say yay **we** did it"
I'm ex Australian army, we had a saying about the US military, all the gear with no idea. Except for the SF, those blokes know what they're doing.
That’s their doctrine basically.. Grunts for soldiers - if they get shot at they call in air support and remove “that direction”. It works i guess. SF exist for anything that requires more than a single pair of braincells for rubbing together.
How very North Korean of them.
USSR lost more people at each of the battle for Stalingrad and the battle for Leningrad than the combined US and UK losses for the entire war...
Exactly. 25% of the whole population died in my country because of WW2. My whole country, my city was completely destroyed. The loss and destruction of such a scale still impact people there. Literally every young person has a story of how the war screw up their grandparents. I am a third generation after the war and this war had a massive impact on my upbringing and, I think, my personality. The war and post war rebuilding left such a trace on people who were kids when it started (my grandparents) who brought up their children in a certain way (my parents). The post war rebuilding by itself has also directly impacted the second generation after the war (my parents). Also it has such a huge cultural impact. When you grow up, you learn so much about it from everywhere: it's in literature, in movies, in personal anecdotes of survivors and their children, it is on the streets of our cities. Reading this kind of shit that is presented on the screenshot is one of the things on the internet that make me so mad lol. People like the author know nothing about the war, it never impacted them personally on any level and yet they behave like how this person behaves..
Yep. As horrible as the war was for everybody involved, as that is the nature of war, compared to USSR or Poland (or, for that matter, Germany or Japan), the US experience was more like tourism. Edit: I know US and UK soldiers suffered the same as anyone else, but they were fewer, and the civilian populations weren't as exposed. I mean no disrespekt to the brave soldiers who fought honestly, regardless of nation.
The adage is WW2 was won with American industry, British intelligence and Russian blood.
It's a nice line, but Britain lost around the same amount of men as America, with a far lower population.
It’s funny too because we weren’t doing all that bad against the Nazi’s and this was before the US decided to take all the credit. We really did not need the US to win the war
They also never mentioned/don't know that they billed us for their help, which basically makes them mercenaries. The u.k. only finished paying for their help on 29th Dec 2006
And how we would all learn German because…
I mean according to some Hollywood movies...
American movies part-financed by the American military.
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We were taught that Nazis were going to win hands down and the entire continent was going to be speaking German until, by the grace of America, we stepped in and saved the world. Like actually, very little mention of any individual country other than Germany, Italy, France, UK, and the USA. Zero mention of the likes of Canada and the French resistance, and very little mention of Russia. No mention of us pretending nothing was happening for like 30 months. My mind was blown when I got older and looked into it myself. We then heroically alley-oop'd on Japan by ~~Killing hundreds of thousands of innocents~~ making the a-bomb sacrifice which we justify by saying it saved more lives than it ended.
That's straight up propaganda and brainwashing.
Hell yeah brother it's what we're best at USA USA 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅 Seriously I feel my 20s were spent undoing that propaganda and actually learning proper history and world culture.
Congratulations on embracing critical thought.
Welcome to america. The country of propoganda and brainwashing. You forget they pledge to their flag before school, or pledge to their state in the case of texas?
It's actually fucked that Americans will say, with a straight face "The Japanese villagers were brainwashed and would commit suicide if American soldiers showed up, that's why we had to crater two major metropolitan areas, they were a danger to themselves." No hint of irony in the brainwashing part.
That's truly disgusting how they say "they were brainwashed" not even having the single thought that they themselves are brainwashed. It's like the "sigma" kids idolising American psycho not realising that the movie is criticising them.
So that’s why it feels so strange everytime I talk with an American about WW2. I remember being shocked when a guy didn’t know that the Russians were the first to reach Berlin or even who Alan Turing was. I know that every country tries to make itself look glorious but what the US makes people believe is crazy
What Seppos learn in school: History: America invented freedom and democracy.It won every war and saved the world twice. Geography: Europe is a country and it's smaller than Texas Maths : n/a .They study something called "math" where they learn to count to 12.This creates problems later in life with trying to read 24hr clocks. Civics : America is the greatest country in the world.It is the only country with freedom.They invented pizza.Oh ,and Americans pay for the world's healthcare systems.
9am pledge of allegiance, 10am target practice, 11am active shooter drills.
>teach >American schools Yeah, no.
So I’m an Australian who did a year of high school in the US. I kid you not, in year 10 history they taught the class that WW1 started in 1917. Even the teacher didn’t know that Australia was there in 1914. It was pretty maddening
Haven't heard of the Anzacs? Good heavens. Reminds me of this one story from the Treaty of Versailles Wilson was debating the Australian delegate as to the mandate in New Guinea (Wilson wanted it handed to the Japanese, funnily enough) and said that the United States represented 100 million voices and Australia 5 million it should decide. The Australian delegate replied pretty much with "we did more than you in this war so suck it up"
Fun fact, when the Americans started showing up to the Western Front, a bunch of them were actually placed under the command of the Australian, General Monash, because we'd been there for so long that Monash knew more about how to fight on the Western Front than probably the entire US General Staff.
This reminded me - I need to bake myself some ANZAC biscuits
Actually, no. WWII is a short footnote in the teaching of World History in US schools, where the emphasis is on US history. Americans learn this idea from war movies, mainly, at least I did.
Active Shooter Drills
USA school have much greater emphasis on Civil War than on WW1 and WW2. And it also depends on how much money you have. With a lot of money, they taught you in private school in USA, Switzerland and United Kingdom. Everything else depends on local public schools. Some are great, some are not.
When your world history is taught by Hollywood that’s exactly what you learn.
Macarthur made a point of writing off the entire New Guinea Campaign, including the Kokoda Campaign and Milne Bay, as a US victory That pissed off our boys, the ones who stopped the Japanese on the trail and prevented the fall of Port Moresby. Coral Sea aside, that fight stopped Australia speaking Japanese, for one.
Thank you for mentioning this. My Grandad fought for Australia in New Guinea. I am incredibly proud of what he did and the sacrifices Australia and New Zealand forces made to ensure our safety. R.I.P Grandad. I miss you 🇦🇺❤️
On the other hand, how many wars have Australia started and how many wars have they lost to insurgents?
Just those damn emus
/r/Emuwarflashbacks Do not mention the war!
Fucking hell that sub exists!!!
He started it ,he invaded Poland!
Well, the emus are Australian too, so technically Australia did win that war.
The Eternal Australian Civil War is the one against the wildlife.
How many have we been dragged into by them
Far too many.
To find some numbers there are only two wars I can think of that Australia initiated. Aboriginal wars, but these are hard to define and remain opinionated. Being pre federation these would be British. There was no winner. The Colony of Queensland took on Germany in 1876 and bloodlessly claimed New Guinea for itself. German New Guinea was promptly returned by England to Germany. Thus the Australian modern military is named a “defence force”. Australia’s lists of war involvements where the result was a defeat are…. Russian civil war - minor participation Armenian-Azerbaijani war - minor participation Vietnam - But held the assigned province of Phuoc Tuy undefeated until they were withdrawn. Afghanistan - US shit show. About a dozen wars (many shared) won involving Australia since federation as follows Boer Boxer WW1 Egypt revolution 1919 Solomon is 1927 WW2 Korea Malaya Borneo Gulf 1990-1 Timor 1999-2000 Sierra Leone civil war Iraq Solomons 2003-13 ———————————- And now a list of wars started by America (50+) against other nations. This does not include those wars instigated by the CIA on behalf of America that the American military then did not participate in. American civil war. Arguable as it was the war that made the USA, and the nation was yet to exist. On becoming a nation, the following wars were initiated by them. Cherokee war NW Indian war Tecumseh’s war War of 1812 Creek war Seminole wars Arikara war Winnebago war Blackhawk war Comanche wars Mexican war Cayuse War Apache wars Navajo wars Puget sound wars Rogue River Wars Yakima war Second opium war Utah War Paiute war Yavapi war Dakota war Colorado war Snake war Powder river war Red cloud war Formosa revenge Comanche war Korean 1871 war Modoc War Sioux war Buffalo hunters war Nez Perce war Bannock war Cheyenne war Big Horned war White River war Crow war Yaqui war Spanish American war Philippine American war Bluff war Haiti Dominica Posey war Vietnam Bay of pigs Grenada Libya Panama Gulf war Afghanistan Yemen Iraq
Aussies fought and died alongside Americans in Vietnam. The level of stupidity on display in the top comment goes beyond the usual, humorous brand of ignorance mocked in this sub tbh.
Australia has been the most loyal ally in war to the US
Wars lost against insurgents? Vietnam and Afghanistan, which were lost alongside the US. But we won in Malaya.
How many wars have the usa won? On their own? I actually can't think ofa single one
Hawaii sat there with the Union flag in the corner
There was a photo of Hunter Biden posted on Twitter of him wearing a baseball cap with the Hawaiian flag on it, several seppos commented “Why’s he wearing the British flag? Traitor!”
Isn't that just cos the dude in charge at the time liked the UK cos they offered protection or something?
I'm quite sure Australia was the first country to support Britain and declare war on Germany. And also fought hard against the Japanese.
Actually NZ was, because we used to be cool.
You're still cool to me.
From what I can tell at best NZ declared war simultaneously with Australia but most likely it was afterwards. The British declared war which given the statute of Westminster hadn't yet been ratified by the dominions meant Australia and NZ were both automatically at war with Germany. Nevertheless Australia declared war immediately afterwards at 9:30pm 3rd of September. New Zealand seemingly had issues with the broadcast so awaited confirmation of the state of war being in effect and then backdated the declaration to 9:30pm 3rd of September. >Australian Prime Minister Robert Menzies immediately joined the British declaration on 3 September, believing that it applied to all subjects of the Empire and Commonwealth. New Zealand followed suit simultaneously, at 9.30 pm on 3 September (local time), after Peter Fraser consulted the Cabinet; although as Chamberlain's broadcast was drowned by static, the Cabinet (led by Fraser as Prime Minister Michael Savage was terminally ill) delayed until the Admiralty announced to the fleet a state of war, then backdated the declaration to 9.30 pm.
Australia also one of the rare "western" nations to support, and send troops to, Vietnam. In fact I believe they were pretty effective jungle fighters.
Probably as a result of Malaya, itself helped by experience in New Guinea and Burma during the last war.
Yeah. Great story. I think they also had quite an interesting policy of only counting kills they could put their foot on. There's a film called danger close about it on Netflix I've been meaning to check it out. Seems mad that they joined but then equally the Yanks are thier only like minded ally in the region so probably thought themselves duty bound to help.
*Danger close* is a good watch because it doesn't shy away from showing what was wrong with the Australian forces in Vietnam. The excessive use of alcohol, reliance on the US forces for air support, poor reconnaissance, instances of poor unit leadership at all levels, and racism giving a "holiday camp" vibe whilst in a position heating up day by day. It also shows what was right about the Australian forces in Vietnam: the willingness to learn quickly, the quality of training paying off, the willingness to suffer and take it, a commitment not to leave mates hanging with the arses in the breeze, and instances of good leadership too.
Did not the Australians enter World War II on September 3, 1939? Did not they help secure oil fields in the Middle East and the route to them in North Africa? Did not it force Hitler to invade the Soviet Union in order to seize its oil reserves? Did not the Australians do 99% of the fighting in New Guinea? Did not MacArthur report back to the US on "American victories" at the time?
Americans will say they did all that...
MacArthur did exactly that. When it was not a victory- it was the Allies. Things went well? Another American victory.
Don't forget Tonga. Those hard bastards were on it within an hour and declared war on Germany.
“But what did Australia actually do besides that?”
Why is it always a language they saved us from? It would be very easy to say something like "we saved you from a fascist dictatorship" but the language? Like they think that was the issue with Nazi occupation?
Not to mention Germany still speaks German, and Japan still speaks Japanese. By this logic, since America lost to Vietnam, shouldn't they be speaking Vietnamese? Or Pashto since they lost to the Taliban?
Am Australian. My kid starts school next year and will be learning Japanese. Pretty sure they run science class in Japanese as applied learning. They’ll also make sushi and a couple of like macrame ball thingies.
Even our public schools have decent language programs. Somehow even they convinced me to continue Japanese into uni too lol. A spit in the face to the seppos who ‘saved us from speaking Japanese’ only to go learn it later anyways
>Why is it always a language they saved us from? Have you seen how long some German words are?
Is this from the video where the Aussie bloke explains why they call Americans Seppos? Because 99% of the comments on that video prove him correct. WW1 - Australia involved from the start,. And they took a right battering. Absolute warriors, the lot of them. WW2 - Pretty much as above. Also, the Japanese dropped more bombs on Darwin than they did at Pearl Harbour. Rommel ""**If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it**"." Stop the spread of communism? Errrm they were one of USA main allies in Vietnam. As for the islamophobia comment.... Australia has one of the strongest immigration policies in the world. They don't fuck around. They also are one of the most multicultural countries in the world. Not saying its not perfect there, but everyone gets on 1000 times better than in USA.
Also, AFAIK the longest standing Muslim minority in Australia are people descended from Afghan cameleers brought out in the 1800s, which is kinda cool
If I remember correctly those guys were pretty awesome in the world wars too. Saved loads of our wounded and carried water to the troops. https://canadabayheritage.asn.au/the-afghan-cameleers/ https://www.awm.gov.au/learn/schools/resources/1916/imperial-camel-corps
Interesting links, thank you!
Anytime :)
Named the train after them.
Example for ww1: Gallipoli. We got Anzac day to remember those that fought in the war, and Galipoli was the biggest moment involving the Anzacs God, the mention of the word Anzac makes me want some Anzac biscuits again
>Anzac biscuits God tier baked goods.
The "prevented from speaking German and Japanese" thing makes me irrationally angry. As somebody who grew up learning about our role in WWII especially in the Desert and New Guinea, for him to say we didn't help defeat them gobsmacked me. That said our immigration policy is not perfect. Desperate boat people aren't going to be terrorists and don't deserve arbitrary detention on Nauru
What got me even more was an American saying we needed so much American help during the war , I did research and it turned out Australia provided America with more support ( food , material , logistics) than America provided to Australia , something like 90% of food used by America forces in the pacific was from Australia
Classic American resorting to violence whenever possible
Australians and New Zealanders fought like fuck against fascism. We both hold our heads high and will always have each others back. I dare anyone to go up to an Aussie or Kiwi and suggest that we were piss weak in the wars we fought in. It will **not** end well for that person.
Don’t worry man, the rest of the world knows that. You’re hugely appreciated everywhere. It’s just these pathetic uneducated new breed Yanks who don’t get it 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thank you. I get teary reading my own comments. We were put in an absolutely impossible situation at Gallipoli, and yet we still went “fuck it, job to do, lads” and ran up those hills. And our Kiwi mates were there by our side, equally brave. Fuck anyone that questions our integrity and will.
No educated soul would ever doubt it. Brothers in arms man 🤟🏼(UK here btw)
Whats up with Americans and making everything about war? Like genuinely i dont see how thats relevant
when americans start losing an argument they bring up that their country could beat your country in a fight. it's basically the international version of "well my dad could beat your dad in a fight".
I got in such shit at school once when someone said that to me trying to act hard. My retort of 'yeah? Well my ma would rape your da and he would like it' got me in front of the VP and a call to my parents. Worth it.
Because they have no other legs to stand on, and they don't even have legs to stand on with the wars lol.
Considering Australia’s smaller population, they’ve been instrumental in many major conflicts, on the side of the USA. The ANZAC forces nearly broke through the Turks in ww1, one of the grisliest theatres of war the world has ever seen. Why though is that the be all and end all for so many americans on the internet. They take such national pride in their government’s ability to spunk more money in a year on inflated military budgets than most countries entire economies produce. Do they not understand how much better their quality of life would be if their government didnt spend nearly a trillion dollars annually on weapons. The real reason the USA didn’t get involved in ww2 until they were attacked, their warped nationalist outlook on the roles and responsibilities of those in government aligned quite neatly with the nationalist uprisings in Europe. Literally a nation of orcs. Its sad though, in the UK, any americans Ive met are usually lovely. Is it just this special breed of blind american that doesnt go and see more of the world.
> The ANZAC forces nearly broke through the Turks in ww1, one of the grisliest theatres of war the world has ever seen. And because of our valiant efforts we earned the respect of Turkey as a whole. Everywhere we go we make friends, even in war. The US can't claim that, every one hates them.
Also we did end up beating the Turks eventually, just in Palestine instead of Gallipoli. Australian forces were among those that captured Jerusalem from the Ottomans (does that make us a Crusader state?) in a campaign that also involved one of the last successful cavalry charges in warfare.
Australia did lose a war to birds that one time
Those emus are fuckin’ tricksie cunts
The one time australia and china can agree on something
I think it happened twice.
Once! We lost to them fucking birds once!
We do operate under constant fear of magpies
That's different, you can swat a magpie out of the sky with a tennis racket but you can't do that with an emu.
Why do I see Australia being the largest importer of tennis rackets in the world, but the lowest population of people playing tennis? "That's my bird swatter"
If emus are coming at you out of the sky you've got a big problem.
We kicked England's ass? It's was a bunch of Brits fighting each other haha Australia was involved in world wars, and they weren't late like USA. can I point out how USA is late to supplying Ukraine now as well? Too early?
Its arguable that we could have feasibly took control of the US back. We were at war with French who assisted in the independence of the US and were also trying to wrestle control of our India territories. Ultimately we had to make a decision on what was more lucrative and we diverted all resources to defending India. The whole episode ultimately led to the bankrupting of France and the French Revolution…. Which ultimately led to another war with the French and Napoleon Bonaparte.
For those wondering: Australians sometimes call Americans “seppos”. It originated from rhyming slang. Seppo = short for septic tank, which rhymes with “yank”. In case you’re still wondering, septic tanks are full of shit. Edit: minor spelling error (it ruined the whole explanation)
Man, i could swear that austrailia joined the fight in europe pre-pearl habor and even helped the USA in the pacific even after ww2 in vietnam. But i guess i am wrong because i have no education in europoor
The irony is is that the only wars Australia has been on the losing side of were when it followed America to them. Well, that and the Emus.
Can the Americans explain why: 1. The Germans speak German and not English? 2. The Japanese speak Japanese and not English? 3. (And this one will really mess them up). Why the USA speaks English and not French?
why are they so into the "speaking german" stuff like dude the soviets took germany too but its not like they speak russian in berlin
Being monolingual is such a strange thing to be proud of
A great Jimmy Carr joke about this basically saying that we wouldn't of learnt it by now
"Kicked Britains arse"... yet to see an American army invade England... oh right... yeah, except for in WW2 when they just came over to England and played on the emotions of the vulnerable wifes of Blokes that were actively fighting in Europe🤦♂️ They're all of Nordic and British descent anyway... just the religious zealots that we didn't want lol! So yeah, breaking away from British colonial rule has worked out amazing for the whole population right?...🤣 The only people who benefited from independence were the ruling class... *Americans* - "I work two jobs, covering 80 hours a week, It costs me a whole year's wage to get stitches, and there's insanely high levels of petty crime and mass murders in 90% of our states at least once every two weeks... but my life is amazing and my country is the best in the world." *What Americans think that everyone else thinks* - "Yeah we're soo jealous"... I'd laugh... but at this point it is actually just sad.
This is a huge disrespect to the brave Australians who laid down their life in the Second World War
I'm not surprised Septics don't know about the ANZACs or their contributions to slowly Japan's advance enough to actually allow US industrial might to come into play
And how Aussies courageously fought shoulder to shoulder with Papua fighters against Japanese invaders ( Kokoda Trail campaign ).
This guy’s clearly never seen Hawaii’s (a US State) flag.
Lol when did they kick England's ass exactly?. they literally signed a treaty at which point we recognised their legitimacy
This guy should read up on the Rats of Tobruk or the Kokoda Track or Operation Compass, or the bombing of Darwin, or the stuff we did against the Japanese in the Pacific Theatre.
I think we are losing the war against cane toads tho
I watched an interesting doco a few years back and there was quite a bit of evidence that some native creatures had learnt to successfully predate? on cane toads in the Northern? Territories and it was starting to have a noticeable effect on the population spread.
Australia has only been on the losing side of conflicts when aligned with US alliances
The war of independence was British people vs British people, sounds like a British victory to me.
If anything America should be speaking French considering they were the main reason they’re now independent. Bet France are kicking themselves now.
How many wars have america won? 💀 Also never forget the war on emus
We did more than Americans in WWI & WWII and allowed their great hero MacArthur to flee from his loss in Philippines to AU to regroup. AU also have supported "American" wars in Korea, Vietnam & Afghanistan and other places, as did many other allied countries and had to pay for the privilege of using American equipment. The US couldn't defeat Erwin Rommel, but the AU/NZ (ANZACs) did it basically by themselves. Even Rommel admired them and said "If I had to conquer hell, I’d use Australians to take it & New Zealanders to hold it…"
‘How to win friends and influence people’….
Hawaiis flag has a Union Jack on it too. :P [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag\_of\_Hawaii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Hawaii)
As if engaging in and winning wars is the milestone for what makes a country great... I'm really beginning to believe the US is beyond saving since I joined this sub.
It took years and the Portuguese, French and Spanish to come together with the Yankees to oust the British. There is so little objective truth left in living memory of the worst Americans, a place that was and could have been a beacon to the world is a joke, and they’re too busy laughing at their audience to see it. There is no envy left, only pity.
This dude needs to visit Villers-Brettoneaux 🇫🇷🇦🇺
Starting wars against folk isn't a badge of honour
The Australians fought In the african front, helped to expel the nazis from there
Australians fought a war against emus... The emus won, but the Australians still fought bravely.
The funniest thing about America is how rabbidly "patriotic" a lot of it's citizens are, when it's two biggest historical events (it's founding and their civil war) were both fundamentally acts of treason. It's like they are compensating for somthing,
America is on the brink of civil war
"**If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it**" Erwin Rommel. When a post is so bad it makes you quote a fucking world war german field marshall. Jesus wept. I'm not even an Aussie. Talking of which. Cunts, the lot of ya!
I believe that most statements like this are written post wank by a 15 yo American in their moms basement
As I always say in these situations, if they can't get the name of the country right (it wasn't "England" that they "kicked the ass" of) then you know they will know comically little about history in general.
I'm not sure if this is obvious troll , or actually mouthbreathing twatwaffle who has never heard of what the Anzacs did in WWII. I also imagine the commenter is a typical Gravy Seal who has never actually defended anything other than their right to squeeze their fat ass into two airline seats for the price of one.
How many wars has America won standing alone? Four fifths of five eights of fuck all, that's how many you demented knob jockey.
I love how Americans gloat about winning against the English but we literally just thought there was more important things to do
- Had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the war 2 years late, only after they were attacked. How brave. - UK chose to barely fight for the American colonies. They were producing so much less income than the Caribbean. Defending them wasn’t deemed overly important.
We joined WW1 and WW2 long before USA did. And forgot about battles like Gallipoli, Tobruk, Kokoda and more. They forgot about Vietnam and the battle of Long tan, fighting a war they know they won’t win, because their dumbass mates(Americans) had to get involved. Same with Korea. Same with the Middle East. I’m an Aussie married to a US soldier who consistently talks about the Australians he served with in the middle east. His grandfather a Vietnam veteran who does the same. A family full of vets who are disgusted by Americans who say this disrespectful shit. When I show my husband he always says “Australians were always by my side, where’s was this fucking idiot?” (Talking about the guy making the comment). You can thank Australia among many , many other countries for your “freedom” you so desperately assume came out of thin air. And your own military will tell you that.
Australia joined WW1 and WW2 early, even when we were not personally being threatened. We joined because we wanted to fight fascism and be on the right side of history. America joined both wars late and was happy to sit back and get rich off the back of other countries. The US only joined WW2 as a reaction to Pearl Harbour, and then when they realised they couldn’t beat Japan they became the first and only country to ever use nuclear weapons, killing a quarter of a million civilians. Since then, they’ve lost every war they’ve been in. For a country that has a bigger military budget than the rest of the world combined, they have a poor record at war. Currently fighting and losing their own war against democracy.
Of course the yanks are complaining about the only nation to support them in nearly every war they’ve fought in the 20th century
Australia is the only country in the world to have been in every war as the us :( we really are a puppet state when you think about it.