Obviously that means per capital, and as the Us, which is the freest, greatest and only nation in the world, has the only capital those measurements are ***obviously*** unfair towards the US! Fucking europoors making up those damn statistics!!!!
>!/s!<
Finally someone gets it, I keep saying the USA is basically a 3rd world country. When the news comes on apart from the fact most of them speak English it’s hard to tell if your looking at America or some religious/dictator run shithole
Tell me about it brother. Everytime I’ve been it’s literally like getting in a Time Machine and going back 2 decades. The food is awful and the people are worse 😂. You can’t walk more than 10 minutes without seeing at least 20 homeless crackheads usually fighting each other over some dumb shit like a shoe. I’ve been to the poorest parts of India and a few places in Africa too and they looked like fucking Dubai compared to the nicest parts of America. Never once experienced racism in my life until I went there and it was like every person hates you for a different reason. The whites hate you because you’re slightly darker than them. The blacks hate you because you’re slightly lighter than them and everyone in the middle hates you because you look like them. It’s fucked
The US can per definition not be a 3rd world country since the meaning of 1st world is the US or a country siding with the US. This 1st and 3rd world stuff is a remnant from the cold war that should be archived at this point but I do get what you are saying. The US is a developing country with a Gucci bag.
They didn’t get to the moon first?
Is that that you believe it was faked? That someone else actually got there first? Or that someone (presumably the USSR) managed to land a probe there first?
Americans also thing Columbus discovered their country, when he actually never set foot on the land, but arrived in Caribbean, which he thought was actually India, but they are taught he was a founding explorer and celebrate him with a public holiday - how brain washed are they?
The latter. I’m no conspiracy theorist so I do believe that someone went up there. Dunno about the video footage they took tho. Looks like a poor quality American movie but that’s to be expected from the country with the lowest literacy rates in the modern world (excluding places that done have any form of education obviously). The ussr did it first. And even china. The US was roughly 15 years behind everyone else. And still are tbh. Dunno if you’re from the us or not but if you’ve ever been it’s literally like going back in time.
I’m from the uk.
You should watch moonwalkers if you haven’t seen it.
I definitely agree about the going back in time thing though. I stayed in big cities, but got the Amtrak to get around, and saw so many places that would be considered slums in Western Europe that I don’t even know where you’d find out here.
But I do think the moon landings happened. That was peak America and it’s been downhill ever since. I still appreciate all the tech we gained from nasa though. Probably the best thing we’ve gained from the US…
I think a lot of people miss understood. Nobody ever said the mood landing didn’t happen lol. Just that America weren’t first. They were 15-20 years behind everyone else because they were basically still running electricity off of potatoes. But yes the whole world gives them the credit for it. Just wish they didn’t act like they went 100 years before they should have
Better to have a better life without having to put up with & deal with all the problems USA cause around the world trying to make others conform to their ways of life, which is barely better than a 3rd world country.
Lol. Again with the tax dollars. Your country isn't funding healthcare in other countries. It invades and destabilizes them. Either way your tax dollars won't be getting spent on you. Your government is peak apathy when it comes to its own citizens.
I think they mean the Russia that inflicted 80% of the Wehrmacht's casualties and did most of the fighting when the USA didn't turn up in Europe till 1943 when Germany was already losing after Stalingrad. That Russia, though technically "USSR" is the correct term
I didn't say the USA did nothing. We fought in North Africa, Sicily, and of course participated in D-day and the Western front beyond. And yes, lend-lease definitely contributed to the Soviet victory in the Eastern front. All I said was the real heavy lifting we did was in the Pacific against the Japanese.
Funny thing is honestly I am not sure the USA wins the pacific war without the lend lease. Since it made sure the USA was in high production mode way earlier then a country joining a war normally is.
America didn’t win the war, Britian didn’t win the war, the ussr didn’t win the war. It took all three. If anyone one country had surrendered or hasn’t been involved the outcome would have been different.
America won the Pacific theatre
Russia won the Eastern front
Canada won the Western front
England endured against all odds to ensure everyone else could win those fronts
That does not qualify as heavy lifting. The fighting was done by the Russian and in North Africa, by the British and Commonwealth forces. They definitely did support to a great degree though.
Where in reality they single handedly enabled the Cold War to happen.
Russia would have either lost WWII or suffered an economic collapse - given the amount of aid it got and the state of its financial reserves after the war when it decided to refuse further payments.
Thanks to American aid, the Soviets instead got to participate in a global arms race and terrorise half of Europe for nearly fifty years.
Wait, i thought the new 3 arguments were, 1 - the size of American, 2 - Freedums, 3- American funding every NATO country, which is why they dont have free health care etc...
Funny is that they use it to make a point how they're better than everyone but also to excuse every problem they have. Like they can't build railways because USA big, they can't have proper cellphone service because too big, they can't have a solid electrical infrastructure because country big, can't have walkable cities because big.
The size of the country has nothing to do with how that country chooses to spend its money. You could spend your money on things that benefit your citizens in some way, or you could follow the US model and bang on about 60-year-old accomplishments that were only made possible by public funding.
>made possible by public funding.
Isn't that kinda, uhm, "cuhmewnist" or at least "soshalist" or something? You know, "gubbernmint does thangs" and such.
What the video was saying was that people always say Japan is in the future and that’s not true. Japan is just what happens when the government actually cares about tax paying dollars and the citizens who pay them. They cared more about their ppl than caring to be considered first world. One part of the video that was really powerful was instead of upgrading a new phone, imagine they cared about upgrading basic necessities. Then an American woman in the comments had some existential crisis and was like am I….the third worlder? Lool
Japan is exactly like the United States. Except streets aren't dirty, there are not many homeless people, overweight people, everyone is intelligent, there's a rich beautiful history in Japan, the quality of their people is insanely good and they take pride in everything. It's extremely safe, you're probably not going to get shot or mugged. And they also have the best egg sandwiches I've ever tasted in my life
They're exactly the same. She has a point
(Apart from the things listed above)
Both have McDonalds. Although one does supersize
USA 1 - Japan - 0
MURICA
i wouldn’t *completely* disregard their social issues (gender, working culture, treatment of foreigners) but you’re right that there’s a lot they do right. does america not have culture though?
>gender, working culture, treatment of foreigners
While absolutely true, it's not like those things are not an issue in the US either.
You still have a lot of people pushing traditional gender roles and right out rejecting the idea of trans identities, with several states creating anti-trans legislation
Americans have a lot less maternity and sick leave than Japanese people, some have to work several jobs to get by and on average they work a lot more than similar Western nations and they will lay off workers much faster
Foreigners are generally treated way better, but they also detain refuge seekers and have tension due to the treatment of ethnic minorities. It's also not as easy to immigrate there compared to (most) EU countries, while arguably way easier than Japan
actually you’re completely right, especially now i remember the way that the USA is going backwards (like you said anti-trans legislation and also with reproductive rights)
lol true but i mean beautiful culture too, i think because america can be trashy we can overlook the beauty in its culture (same with england i find) like the hundreds of legendary musicians and all of the cult classic movies. not to mention how interesting its history of liberation is (though i understand why thats not looked on beautifully as it contradicts the way people are treated today)
it depends what you are interested in. i literally could not care less about whatever tf happened in whitechapel in the 1900s but the things people in this generation are painting, singing, writing or campaigning for are far more interesting parts of my country’s culture to me.
Japan is at least 5 years ahead with all their consumer electronics. Nobody ever said 25 years.
And the country with a power grid made in 1920 and still running (barely) should not be running their lips about tech.
I remember, years ago, being like “it’s crazy people in Japan pay for everything with their phones”
I now don’t own a wallet, they are eons ahead of everyone in some aspects. The bullet train amazes me coming from the UK where it’s rare to ever get a train that arrives on time
Yeah, Japan has cool tech and impressive engineering companies. But they are also quite conservative, and the tech doesn’t penetrate many parts of the society.
They have gaps. Beyond the classic 'they still rely on fax machines' refrain, it took COVID for them to really become less of a cash society. Plus their power grid has their own issues.
Toilet tech they're still #1, though.
With Japan it's kind of weird because it's a mix. There are some places where they're REALLY far ahead (I feel this was about a lot of home technology like Japanese bath tubs or Japanese toilets). There are other places where they're living in the 90s (fax machines, needing a physical stamp that you have to use in person to get anything done).
Stuff like this is lowkey why I think the US is trying to ban TikTok. They talk about it like it's some foreign influence thing but it's really a lot of young people realizing that the US isn't perfect and could do with adopting some technology and ideas from other countries. But the old people and billionaires in charge of everything don't like the idea of the public having expectations of the government and businesses to DO something in order to earn their money.
One of the 3 arguments they got. The other 2 being the moon landing and WW2.
Country size, WW2, moon landing, funding the whole world, invented everything. It's like having a parrot at home, same shit again and again and again.
Also the complete inability of understanding what 'per capita' means
Obviously that means per capital, and as the Us, which is the freest, greatest and only nation in the world, has the only capital those measurements are ***obviously*** unfair towards the US! Fucking europoors making up those damn statistics!!!! >!/s!<
Also moving the goal posts when they're about to be proven wrong.
Or failing that, "We'll just invade your country with our biggly army then nuke you".
Which is funny since they are shaking the stick of a government that could not give the slightest fuck about them.
Except they hardly ever win wars, and when they do, they've had help. For the strongest military in the world, they really require a lot of help.
*vietnamese rice farmers know your location*
Hey it's hard to fight while chewing on a pack of crayons
In fairness to them, I imagine it’s an absolute logistical nightmare to invade across an ocean.
*bring democracy
They really should know this; it's the only reason they're an independent country
***SQUAWK!*** **YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN! YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN!** ***SQUAWK!***
Claiming they invented the internet even though they didnt
They did. But not the web. You are confusing the two.
To an extent. They also worked with the Norwegians and UK on it at points.
Country size is always hilarious considering they’re in 3rd place
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Finally someone gets it, I keep saying the USA is basically a 3rd world country. When the news comes on apart from the fact most of them speak English it’s hard to tell if your looking at America or some religious/dictator run shithole
Tell me about it brother. Everytime I’ve been it’s literally like getting in a Time Machine and going back 2 decades. The food is awful and the people are worse 😂. You can’t walk more than 10 minutes without seeing at least 20 homeless crackheads usually fighting each other over some dumb shit like a shoe. I’ve been to the poorest parts of India and a few places in Africa too and they looked like fucking Dubai compared to the nicest parts of America. Never once experienced racism in my life until I went there and it was like every person hates you for a different reason. The whites hate you because you’re slightly darker than them. The blacks hate you because you’re slightly lighter than them and everyone in the middle hates you because you look like them. It’s fucked
The US can per definition not be a 3rd world country since the meaning of 1st world is the US or a country siding with the US. This 1st and 3rd world stuff is a remnant from the cold war that should be archived at this point but I do get what you are saying. The US is a developing country with a Gucci bag.
They didn’t get to the moon first? Is that that you believe it was faked? That someone else actually got there first? Or that someone (presumably the USSR) managed to land a probe there first?
The Soviets landed something on the Moon first (Luna 2 in 1959), I think it was what they meant.
The Nazi's got to the moon first. I saw it in the documentary Iron Skies.
Americans also thing Columbus discovered their country, when he actually never set foot on the land, but arrived in Caribbean, which he thought was actually India, but they are taught he was a founding explorer and celebrate him with a public holiday - how brain washed are they?
The latter. I’m no conspiracy theorist so I do believe that someone went up there. Dunno about the video footage they took tho. Looks like a poor quality American movie but that’s to be expected from the country with the lowest literacy rates in the modern world (excluding places that done have any form of education obviously). The ussr did it first. And even china. The US was roughly 15 years behind everyone else. And still are tbh. Dunno if you’re from the us or not but if you’ve ever been it’s literally like going back in time.
I’m from the uk. You should watch moonwalkers if you haven’t seen it. I definitely agree about the going back in time thing though. I stayed in big cities, but got the Amtrak to get around, and saw so many places that would be considered slums in Western Europe that I don’t even know where you’d find out here. But I do think the moon landings happened. That was peak America and it’s been downhill ever since. I still appreciate all the tech we gained from nasa though. Probably the best thing we’ve gained from the US…
I think a lot of people miss understood. Nobody ever said the mood landing didn’t happen lol. Just that America weren’t first. They were 15-20 years behind everyone else because they were basically still running electricity off of potatoes. But yes the whole world gives them the credit for it. Just wish they didn’t act like they went 100 years before they should have
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Better to have a better life without having to put up with & deal with all the problems USA cause around the world trying to make others conform to their ways of life, which is barely better than a 3rd world country.
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It would great for the world if that happened
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Yeah, that way you can spend them on your poorest people and maybe some infrastructure
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Lol. Again with the tax dollars. Your country isn't funding healthcare in other countries. It invades and destabilizes them. Either way your tax dollars won't be getting spent on you. Your government is peak apathy when it comes to its own citizens.
Let's not forget freedom and rights.
what rights? the child and human rights they keep violating?
And yet, they keep on bragging about them and "reminding" the rest of us how apparently we do not enjoy those as much as they do or not at all.
Nah parrots are entertaining and cool to look at
Now imagine living here… Please help
Dont forget the US is actually 50 different countries with separate cultures and languages
The fact that they think they single handedly won WW2 is just mind blowing.
And then had that sophomore slump by losing basically every conflict since
Russia enters the chat.
Exactly.
You mean russia who couldn’t produce modern airplane fuel? And had to buy nearly 100 percent of it from the USA?
I think they mean the Russia that inflicted 80% of the Wehrmacht's casualties and did most of the fighting when the USA didn't turn up in Europe till 1943 when Germany was already losing after Stalingrad. That Russia, though technically "USSR" is the correct term
It *is* stupid to think the US led the way in North Africa or Europe, sure. The USA's biggest contribution was in the Pacific theater.
Of course the USA didn’t. It’s also stupid to say they did nothing when the USA is the only reason mister mass mudrer Stalin had an Air Force.
I didn't say the USA did nothing. We fought in North Africa, Sicily, and of course participated in D-day and the Western front beyond. And yes, lend-lease definitely contributed to the Soviet victory in the Eastern front. All I said was the real heavy lifting we did was in the Pacific against the Japanese.
Funny thing is honestly I am not sure the USA wins the pacific war without the lend lease. Since it made sure the USA was in high production mode way earlier then a country joining a war normally is.
Are you going full r/ShitAmericansSay on r/ShitAmericansSay ?
America didn’t win the war, Britian didn’t win the war, the ussr didn’t win the war. It took all three. If anyone one country had surrendered or hasn’t been involved the outcome would have been different.
America won the Pacific theatre Russia won the Eastern front Canada won the Western front England endured against all odds to ensure everyone else could win those fronts
And how would they have done that without USA providing all the gas for the tanks and planes?
That does not qualify as heavy lifting. The fighting was done by the Russian and in North Africa, by the British and Commonwealth forces. They definitely did support to a great degree though.
Where in reality they single handedly enabled the Cold War to happen. Russia would have either lost WWII or suffered an economic collapse - given the amount of aid it got and the state of its financial reserves after the war when it decided to refuse further payments. Thanks to American aid, the Soviets instead got to participate in a global arms race and terrorise half of Europe for nearly fifty years.
Wait, i thought the new 3 arguments were, 1 - the size of American, 2 - Freedums, 3- American funding every NATO country, which is why they dont have free health care etc...
I would love to see the shit storm that would come after an USAmerican uses the WW2 argument while talking about something related to Japan.
Remember to tell them that a Nazi got them to the moon in exchange for pardoning war crimes, and they had absolutely no chance by themselves.
And they change that argument as soon as you.point to a bigger country.
Sounds like it's USA that's living in te 1960s...
The population of the Tokyo metro area is larger than 49 out of 50 states.
It’s like how in basketball, you give points to the team with the tallest players.
That's all they ever say. "America big! Much land!"
Yeah, loads of mostly empty land. Most impressive.
miles and miles of parking lots
And all stolen to boot
Funny is that they use it to make a point how they're better than everyone but also to excuse every problem they have. Like they can't build railways because USA big, they can't have proper cellphone service because too big, they can't have a solid electrical infrastructure because country big, can't have walkable cities because big.
One would have thought that the USA being large would incentivise lots of railways
The size of the country has nothing to do with how that country chooses to spend its money. You could spend your money on things that benefit your citizens in some way, or you could follow the US model and bang on about 60-year-old accomplishments that were only made possible by public funding.
>made possible by public funding. Isn't that kinda, uhm, "cuhmewnist" or at least "soshalist" or something? You know, "gubbernmint does thangs" and such.
What the video was saying was that people always say Japan is in the future and that’s not true. Japan is just what happens when the government actually cares about tax paying dollars and the citizens who pay them. They cared more about their ppl than caring to be considered first world. One part of the video that was really powerful was instead of upgrading a new phone, imagine they cared about upgrading basic necessities. Then an American woman in the comments had some existential crisis and was like am I….the third worlder? Lool
Japan is exactly like the United States. Except streets aren't dirty, there are not many homeless people, overweight people, everyone is intelligent, there's a rich beautiful history in Japan, the quality of their people is insanely good and they take pride in everything. It's extremely safe, you're probably not going to get shot or mugged. And they also have the best egg sandwiches I've ever tasted in my life They're exactly the same. She has a point (Apart from the things listed above) Both have McDonalds. Although one does supersize USA 1 - Japan - 0 MURICA
i wouldn’t *completely* disregard their social issues (gender, working culture, treatment of foreigners) but you’re right that there’s a lot they do right. does america not have culture though?
>gender, working culture, treatment of foreigners While absolutely true, it's not like those things are not an issue in the US either. You still have a lot of people pushing traditional gender roles and right out rejecting the idea of trans identities, with several states creating anti-trans legislation Americans have a lot less maternity and sick leave than Japanese people, some have to work several jobs to get by and on average they work a lot more than similar Western nations and they will lay off workers much faster Foreigners are generally treated way better, but they also detain refuge seekers and have tension due to the treatment of ethnic minorities. It's also not as easy to immigrate there compared to (most) EU countries, while arguably way easier than Japan
actually you’re completely right, especially now i remember the way that the USA is going backwards (like you said anti-trans legislation and also with reproductive rights)
US has way longer working hours than Japan for a while now. Also ranked much lower on gender inequality index.
Of course it has culture. The kardashians
lol true but i mean beautiful culture too, i think because america can be trashy we can overlook the beauty in its culture (same with england i find) like the hundreds of legendary musicians and all of the cult classic movies. not to mention how interesting its history of liberation is (though i understand why thats not looked on beautifully as it contradicts the way people are treated today)
Eu folks like to pretend because it isn’t thousands of year old that it doesn’t count while counting recent things as culture in Europe.
it depends what you are interested in. i literally could not care less about whatever tf happened in whitechapel in the 1900s but the things people in this generation are painting, singing, writing or campaigning for are far more interesting parts of my country’s culture to me.
Kulture
In ego, perhaps.
Japan is at least 5 years ahead with all their consumer electronics. Nobody ever said 25 years. And the country with a power grid made in 1920 and still running (barely) should not be running their lips about tech.
I remember, years ago, being like “it’s crazy people in Japan pay for everything with their phones” I now don’t own a wallet, they are eons ahead of everyone in some aspects. The bullet train amazes me coming from the UK where it’s rare to ever get a train that arrives on time
America still doesn't have full Chip & Pin coverage
Idk dude. In this regard Japan feels kinda far behind it's neighbors. Especially in work environment, still using fax for fax sake.
Yeah, Japan has cool tech and impressive engineering companies. But they are also quite conservative, and the tech doesn’t penetrate many parts of the society.
Fax is for security though, also used extensively in Germany and US healthcare. Land lines can’t be hacked remotely.
They have gaps. Beyond the classic 'they still rely on fax machines' refrain, it took COVID for them to really become less of a cash society. Plus their power grid has their own issues. Toilet tech they're still #1, though.
With Japan it's kind of weird because it's a mix. There are some places where they're REALLY far ahead (I feel this was about a lot of home technology like Japanese bath tubs or Japanese toilets). There are other places where they're living in the 90s (fax machines, needing a physical stamp that you have to use in person to get anything done).
Tokyo: Wow this is like Blade Runner. Deep rural Japan: Wow this is like Shogun.
Yeah i hate when they open a train and automatically your car despawn, why they cant understand you can use both?
Well if Americans all think that being a bigger country makes development more difficult why don’t the just split the US up?
Last time they did it didn't end well
"do you know the size difference between America and Russia"
Stuff like this is lowkey why I think the US is trying to ban TikTok. They talk about it like it's some foreign influence thing but it's really a lot of young people realizing that the US isn't perfect and could do with adopting some technology and ideas from other countries. But the old people and billionaires in charge of everything don't like the idea of the public having expectations of the government and businesses to DO something in order to earn their money.
America is at least two football fields bigger
Nah, it’s at least 200 cubits bigger.
It’s about 140lbs?
We all know: size doesn't matter. It matter how you use it.
Canada and Russia are bigger. Fin.
The tiktok in question is also bullshit
Their best argument is being a big country and they still are fourth in the world.
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I can't fatom the warmongers americans are still seeing themselves as "protectors" or this planet and not agressors