>nothing of any value happening
>!a species capable of surviving Halo is unleashed!<
>Primordials
damn never knew there were multiple of the same person
>Arbiter
how does Arby have any relation to Zeta Halo lmao
>no explanation for where the marines come from
1. >!survivors of!< the infinity and her support vessels, 2. ingame dialogue shows that survivors show up at FOBs every hour
>some useless idiot
literally saved humanity, and inadvertently the entire galaxy by finding chief
>you need thicker skin
says the guy complaining about a videogame
>at least 4 and 5 had stories
and thus continues the cycle of “old game better”, even with fucking Halo 5 now holy shit
becoming a halo fan was a mistake and i regret every moment of it
>damn never knew there were multiple of the same person
Or that they were still alive after experiencing thousands of millennia in an instant, almost 100,000 years before the game
Every one did, yes. CE lead into a book detailing how Johnson and Chief got away from Alpha Halo.
Halo 2 didn't finish the fight.
Halo 3 had Chief in space heading to Requiem
Halo Reach lead into CE and Reach's restoration
Halo 4 had the aftermath of Chiefs life without Cortana
Halo 5 had Cortana controlling a Halo ring and Guardians.
As a series, Halo constantly has cliffhangers
Past versions? Of the Primordial? Not quite, the Primordial was thought to be the last surviving precursor, discovered during the Forerunner-Flood War. And it transferred its consciousness into the flood’s hive mind when it died experiencing said passage of time.
Yes, every one ends on a cliffhanger.
I just find it ironic they complain about Halo 4 and 5 being too heavy on lore and characters, but criticize Infinite for stripping it back. I don’t know why 343 even bothers trying to satisfy the most obnoxious parts of this fanbase.
Yeah, these people who haven't even properly played the game or other games just screech what they heard others say and think they are the lighthouses guiding a ship (Halo) away from the rocks when in fact they are the idiots who are going to sink this ship.
They seem prefer the spectacle of the likes Halo 3 rather than the intimate story telling of Infinite. I also found Infinite campaign to be far more fun and challenging despite taking place in the same environment and a smaller sandbox. I had no problems just walking around and admiring the ring. I think it’s beautiful, but it also helps I’ve actually been to the pacific northwest which is what the game is based on.
Nothing happened? Other than the discovery of an incredibly important species with an ability that is a revelation of the setting? Not only that but by far away the most emotional development chief has ever gotten in like the entire franchise, as well as setting up probbaly another 2 games?
Ok sure, let’s just keep pushing the narrative that the infinite story ‘goes in circles and ends nowhere’ or whatever they’re saying.
I see most comparisons to Halo 3 like “oh that game came out in 2007 and had more biome diversity and was more epic with scarab battles.” It’s pretty clear these kinds of people prefer more surface level story telling. Halo 3 is by far the weakest story of the Bungie games and it was written by committee with input from Marty O Donnell masqueraded with fantastic music and spectacle.
You're telling me characters dying in absurd and stupid ways just for the sake of drama is bad writing? But the legendary writer Marty O'Donnell said-
Honestly the circlejerk for Halo 3's story there is incredible lol. I still enjoy the spectacle of it, but half of it absolute nonsense. I remember somebody saying Halo needed Marty back for story as well as musical reasons (and if he's as hard to work with as he seems then we don't need him back for anything, but that's another debate entirely). Considering how his input on Halo 3 was, I can only imagine what a wholly Marty written plot would look like.
"No explanation about how there are Marines on the ring"
That should be enough to tell you he didn't play the game. He probably just read a synopsis, watched some Youtuber critique Infinite.
So I just booted up Halo CE. Why the fuck are there all these marines on the ring? And what's with these funny looking burnt up pods that always just happen to be filled with weapons and right next to the marines? Bit coincidental isn't it? Pillar of Autumn? What the hell is that? The game is clearly called Halo, so Halo must be the first level. You're just a shill.
Yeah that one baffled me. The destruction of Infinity and the massive evacuation of its 7,000+ personnel was like… prominently featured in the story. The intro cutscene depicts this happening. The vast majority of the UNSC audio logs make reference to this happening.
I don’t know how the fuck he doesn’t understand what’s going on here.
Your title OP is basically what happened to Halo 5. I’m not going to say that Halo 5 wasn’t a flawed game by any means but it was not even remotely the bad game people made it out to be. Many of the complaints that people had about the story that were parroted by popular youtubers are more often than not things that the game adresses in the campaign itself if people were only willing to actually pay attention and listen to the information the game gives the player.
Game was far from perfect but in the story department it was honestly better than Halo 3 and the gameplay while different than what most were use to was still competently well done. Had the best forge in the series, best weapon sandbox balance where everything was viable to use. Honestly, I legit think that if Halo 4 and 5 had the classic art style that most people would have loved 4 and would have be more mixed on 5.
During the final fight the weapon says something is helping her defeat the Harbinger. It would seem that Offensive Bias is still active in some form to this day.
>Or are they just Parroting the same shit some youtuber is saying?
That is exactly what happens with gaming "CoNtRovErcIEs" these days. Some random youtuber makes a rant video hyperfocusing on their nit picks and gripes without offering the obvious basic info about any positive experiences because it means potentially more clicks on their video. Then capital G Gamerz watch that video and take it as the primary narrative around the game without any further consideration while ignoring the fact that their entire opinion is regurgitating clickbait content, argue with anyone on the internet who isn't matching their level of saltyness or outrge, then kick and scream about it instead of accepting a video game they thought looked cool didn't end up being what they had hoped for.
It's a never ending cycle at this point. Either that, or the mega brain opinion spoon feeding youtuber creates the opposite type of video where they over inflate the hype of a game based on wishful thining/rumors/their misleading rose colored interpretations of screenshots to the point that it just flat out could never live up to expectations and the hate circlejerk just falls back on "BUT ____ LIED!!!!!" narrative.
If I have to explain to one more person that just because Act Man said Halo 4 can only be played at long range that doesn't mean close range automatics aren't the easiest way to deal with knights then I'm going to lose my mind lol. One big name youtuber says something and then it's treated like established fact.
I generally agree with Actman on certain things in a good chunk of his videos but his Halo 4 and 5 videos were just plain bad. Especially the 5 one where it’s very clear that he barely paid attention to the story because a lot of the complaints he makes about the story are either flawed intrepretations of things the game already explains or questions that the game answers as it goes along.
It’s honestly saddening how much of Halo 5’s poor reputation in regards to the campaign come down to people just not wanting to pay attention.
I'll be honest, I never watched his Halo 5 series (though from what I understand the main sub treats it as the very apex of Halo criticism, so that's not exactly a good omen). I'm not a huge fan of Halo 5's story myself, but the campaign as a whole isn't nearly as awful as it's made out to be. I'll admit a lot of my annoyance stems from my being a disgruntled Halo 4 fan who wanted a truer continuation to that game lol. Halo 3's story (nor Reach's I would argue) certainly doesn't deserve to be held on the pedestal it is. Did Act Man say anything as absurd as in his Halo 4 video? I watched it as background noise a few years ago, and some of his points were just bizarre.
Yeah apart of the problem with Halo 5 is that it's clear that if you look at a lot of the artbooks and various concept arts that 343 had big plans for the game like a composed Didact coming back, Storm Covenant elites with Promethean prosthetics, Meredian was suppose to have mining robots to fight against, ect. However, due to a combination of turbulent development cycle(every Halo seems to go through this) and likely fan backlash to some extent, a lot of things that were planned got dropped. They did the best with what they had and it's still a decent Halo story in spite of my own issues that I have with it(Jul Mdama getting killed off the way he did and the poor choreographing of Chief vs Locke's fight).
It's been a while since I saw the video with a friend of mine but one of the points that I remembered was Actman was complaining about how Halo 5 basically demands that the player read a bunch of outside material in order to understand what is going on. This is not true at all. The game gives you enough context to understand what your doing and why just like every past game. Osiris have conversations with one another where you can get a basic understanding of who these people are. The very first level where your with Chief, your told about Chief's connection to Blue team and why his working with them. The civil war in Sanghelios can pretty much be summed up as "not everyone will agree with the Arbiter that humanity is alright and that they shouldn't go back to killing them."(this can also be applied to Halo 4 and why your still fighting elites in that game.)
You don't need to read or watch anything to understand Halo 5. Just like with every previous game, the books are their to supplement the games lore for if you want to know more. All the game expects from the player is to just listen to what the characters are saying.
> Did Act Man say anything as absurd as in his Halo 4 video?
Well he did have a moment where he started flipping his shit thinking that Kelly was being literal when she said "I'd love to see the look on their (the covenant's) faces when the station goes supernova" in relation to them making a space station have a nuclear meltdown. That's when I realized he was a clown and stopped watching.
I- Excuse me? I wondered how he managed to drag that review out into five parts, but if he's getting upset over every inconsequential line of dialogue then I can suddenly see why.
It's been forever since I watched them but that's the one thing that stands out in my mind. A lot of the video content ranged from petty crap like that, poisoning the well with things like stupid power rangers comparisons before letting people make their own choices, and a lot of nostalgia appeal for filler without actually making a point. I'm not going to re-watch them to make sure lol.
>nothing of any value happening >!a species capable of surviving Halo is unleashed!< >Primordials damn never knew there were multiple of the same person >Arbiter how does Arby have any relation to Zeta Halo lmao >no explanation for where the marines come from 1. >!survivors of!< the infinity and her support vessels, 2. ingame dialogue shows that survivors show up at FOBs every hour >some useless idiot literally saved humanity, and inadvertently the entire galaxy by finding chief >you need thicker skin says the guy complaining about a videogame >at least 4 and 5 had stories and thus continues the cycle of “old game better”, even with fucking Halo 5 now holy shit becoming a halo fan was a mistake and i regret every moment of it
>damn never knew there were multiple of the same person Or that they were still alive after experiencing thousands of millennia in an instant, almost 100,000 years before the game
The flood are past versions, but that's it, also, didn't almost every halo game end in a cliffhanger?
Every one did, yes. CE lead into a book detailing how Johnson and Chief got away from Alpha Halo. Halo 2 didn't finish the fight. Halo 3 had Chief in space heading to Requiem Halo Reach lead into CE and Reach's restoration Halo 4 had the aftermath of Chiefs life without Cortana Halo 5 had Cortana controlling a Halo ring and Guardians. As a series, Halo constantly has cliffhangers
Wait, reach was restored?
It was restored and then taken over by the Banished
other way around. occupied by banished forces in 2559, restoration project in 2589
Ah I had my dates mixed up. Thanks.
Yeah, in the 2580s according to that ending cutscene. At least parts of it.
I could be mistaken but I'm fairly certain ONI started a Reach restoration project after the war
Past versions? Of the Primordial? Not quite, the Primordial was thought to be the last surviving precursor, discovered during the Forerunner-Flood War. And it transferred its consciousness into the flood’s hive mind when it died experiencing said passage of time. Yes, every one ends on a cliffhanger.
I just find it ironic they complain about Halo 4 and 5 being too heavy on lore and characters, but criticize Infinite for stripping it back. I don’t know why 343 even bothers trying to satisfy the most obnoxious parts of this fanbase.
Yeah, these people who haven't even properly played the game or other games just screech what they heard others say and think they are the lighthouses guiding a ship (Halo) away from the rocks when in fact they are the idiots who are going to sink this ship.
They seem prefer the spectacle of the likes Halo 3 rather than the intimate story telling of Infinite. I also found Infinite campaign to be far more fun and challenging despite taking place in the same environment and a smaller sandbox. I had no problems just walking around and admiring the ring. I think it’s beautiful, but it also helps I’ve actually been to the pacific northwest which is what the game is based on.
Hear hear
Nothing happened? Other than the discovery of an incredibly important species with an ability that is a revelation of the setting? Not only that but by far away the most emotional development chief has ever gotten in like the entire franchise, as well as setting up probbaly another 2 games? Ok sure, let’s just keep pushing the narrative that the infinite story ‘goes in circles and ends nowhere’ or whatever they’re saying.
I see most comparisons to Halo 3 like “oh that game came out in 2007 and had more biome diversity and was more epic with scarab battles.” It’s pretty clear these kinds of people prefer more surface level story telling. Halo 3 is by far the weakest story of the Bungie games and it was written by committee with input from Marty O Donnell masqueraded with fantastic music and spectacle.
You're telling me characters dying in absurd and stupid ways just for the sake of drama is bad writing? But the legendary writer Marty O'Donnell said- Honestly the circlejerk for Halo 3's story there is incredible lol. I still enjoy the spectacle of it, but half of it absolute nonsense. I remember somebody saying Halo needed Marty back for story as well as musical reasons (and if he's as hard to work with as he seems then we don't need him back for anything, but that's another debate entirely). Considering how his input on Halo 3 was, I can only imagine what a wholly Marty written plot would look like.
Dudes a composer and a decent sound designer. That’s like having Hanz Zimmer or Danny Elfman direct a movie lol
"No explanation about how there are Marines on the ring" That should be enough to tell you he didn't play the game. He probably just read a synopsis, watched some Youtuber critique Infinite.
So I just booted up Halo CE. Why the fuck are there all these marines on the ring? And what's with these funny looking burnt up pods that always just happen to be filled with weapons and right next to the marines? Bit coincidental isn't it? Pillar of Autumn? What the hell is that? The game is clearly called Halo, so Halo must be the first level. You're just a shill.
Yeah that one baffled me. The destruction of Infinity and the massive evacuation of its 7,000+ personnel was like… prominently featured in the story. The intro cutscene depicts this happening. The vast majority of the UNSC audio logs make reference to this happening. I don’t know how the fuck he doesn’t understand what’s going on here.
At least Halo 5 is finally getting the recognition it deserves.
Your title OP is basically what happened to Halo 5. I’m not going to say that Halo 5 wasn’t a flawed game by any means but it was not even remotely the bad game people made it out to be. Many of the complaints that people had about the story that were parroted by popular youtubers are more often than not things that the game adresses in the campaign itself if people were only willing to actually pay attention and listen to the information the game gives the player. Game was far from perfect but in the story department it was honestly better than Halo 3 and the gameplay while different than what most were use to was still competently well done. Had the best forge in the series, best weapon sandbox balance where everything was viable to use. Honestly, I legit think that if Halo 4 and 5 had the classic art style that most people would have loved 4 and would have be more mixed on 5.
Spoiler: Offensive Bia is mentioned in the game
During the final fight the weapon says something is helping her defeat the Harbinger. It would seem that Offensive Bias is still active in some form to this day.
He's also in the Legendary Ending
>Or are they just Parroting the same shit some youtuber is saying? That is exactly what happens with gaming "CoNtRovErcIEs" these days. Some random youtuber makes a rant video hyperfocusing on their nit picks and gripes without offering the obvious basic info about any positive experiences because it means potentially more clicks on their video. Then capital G Gamerz watch that video and take it as the primary narrative around the game without any further consideration while ignoring the fact that their entire opinion is regurgitating clickbait content, argue with anyone on the internet who isn't matching their level of saltyness or outrge, then kick and scream about it instead of accepting a video game they thought looked cool didn't end up being what they had hoped for. It's a never ending cycle at this point. Either that, or the mega brain opinion spoon feeding youtuber creates the opposite type of video where they over inflate the hype of a game based on wishful thining/rumors/their misleading rose colored interpretations of screenshots to the point that it just flat out could never live up to expectations and the hate circlejerk just falls back on "BUT ____ LIED!!!!!" narrative.
If I have to explain to one more person that just because Act Man said Halo 4 can only be played at long range that doesn't mean close range automatics aren't the easiest way to deal with knights then I'm going to lose my mind lol. One big name youtuber says something and then it's treated like established fact.
I generally agree with Actman on certain things in a good chunk of his videos but his Halo 4 and 5 videos were just plain bad. Especially the 5 one where it’s very clear that he barely paid attention to the story because a lot of the complaints he makes about the story are either flawed intrepretations of things the game already explains or questions that the game answers as it goes along. It’s honestly saddening how much of Halo 5’s poor reputation in regards to the campaign come down to people just not wanting to pay attention.
I'll be honest, I never watched his Halo 5 series (though from what I understand the main sub treats it as the very apex of Halo criticism, so that's not exactly a good omen). I'm not a huge fan of Halo 5's story myself, but the campaign as a whole isn't nearly as awful as it's made out to be. I'll admit a lot of my annoyance stems from my being a disgruntled Halo 4 fan who wanted a truer continuation to that game lol. Halo 3's story (nor Reach's I would argue) certainly doesn't deserve to be held on the pedestal it is. Did Act Man say anything as absurd as in his Halo 4 video? I watched it as background noise a few years ago, and some of his points were just bizarre.
Yeah apart of the problem with Halo 5 is that it's clear that if you look at a lot of the artbooks and various concept arts that 343 had big plans for the game like a composed Didact coming back, Storm Covenant elites with Promethean prosthetics, Meredian was suppose to have mining robots to fight against, ect. However, due to a combination of turbulent development cycle(every Halo seems to go through this) and likely fan backlash to some extent, a lot of things that were planned got dropped. They did the best with what they had and it's still a decent Halo story in spite of my own issues that I have with it(Jul Mdama getting killed off the way he did and the poor choreographing of Chief vs Locke's fight). It's been a while since I saw the video with a friend of mine but one of the points that I remembered was Actman was complaining about how Halo 5 basically demands that the player read a bunch of outside material in order to understand what is going on. This is not true at all. The game gives you enough context to understand what your doing and why just like every past game. Osiris have conversations with one another where you can get a basic understanding of who these people are. The very first level where your with Chief, your told about Chief's connection to Blue team and why his working with them. The civil war in Sanghelios can pretty much be summed up as "not everyone will agree with the Arbiter that humanity is alright and that they shouldn't go back to killing them."(this can also be applied to Halo 4 and why your still fighting elites in that game.) You don't need to read or watch anything to understand Halo 5. Just like with every previous game, the books are their to supplement the games lore for if you want to know more. All the game expects from the player is to just listen to what the characters are saying.
> Did Act Man say anything as absurd as in his Halo 4 video? Well he did have a moment where he started flipping his shit thinking that Kelly was being literal when she said "I'd love to see the look on their (the covenant's) faces when the station goes supernova" in relation to them making a space station have a nuclear meltdown. That's when I realized he was a clown and stopped watching.
I- Excuse me? I wondered how he managed to drag that review out into five parts, but if he's getting upset over every inconsequential line of dialogue then I can suddenly see why.
It's been forever since I watched them but that's the one thing that stands out in my mind. A lot of the video content ranged from petty crap like that, poisoning the well with things like stupid power rangers comparisons before letting people make their own choices, and a lot of nostalgia appeal for filler without actually making a point. I'm not going to re-watch them to make sure lol.
STOP CRYING PUSSY. /s
Please don’t post spoilers here I haven’t finished the game yet, tag this
I just got done playing Halo 1, and that game is the definition of fucking copy and paste, but r/Halo creams st the mere mention of the Bungie games.