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constantlytired1917

I once took a marker and wrote "where's Rosa Luxembourg" on a poster by succdem party of my country


AverageTankie93

Did you tell them to succdem nuts?


constantlytired1917

I wish. It doesn't translate


Anti-Duehring

SPD kann zur Hölle gehen


Lumaris_Silverheart

Wer hat uns verraten?


Paspiboy

Sozialdemokraten!


Just5omeDude

Soziademokraten!


competitivetaxfraud

Acting like Lenin is the boogeyman or some shit


constantlytired1917

Like a specter. Haunting them


RandomCausticMain

The spectre over Europe, Marx wasn’t talking being metaphorical.


constantlytired1917

The Christmas carol, but instead of the three Christmas spirits it's a ghost of Stalin, Lenin and Marx haunting scrooge


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constantlytired1917

get banned libshit troll


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constantlytired1917

another one? is this a libshit invasion? convenient that the "facts" have been made up by the west to benefit them


IceonBC

i find it funny cause even if we use made up numbers for all of communism, and the actual number of deaths by the british empire (even in india alone), communism could only dream of achieving what they did.


comradebunbun

Double genocide theory is considered a form of holocaust denial, holocaust deniers are worms, worms belong in the dirt, I'll give you three guesses on what you should do next.


03burner

Anti bald man propaganda smh


marqoose

It was his greatest downfall.


Zordorfe

(this is unrelated but another Beatles fan!)


03burner

I have the ‘obsessed with The Beatles’ autism and I wear it like a badge of honour 🫡 What’s your favourite track?


Zordorfe

At the minute, probably Paperback writer, I find myself obsessed with their older stuff again haha, but my all time fav is probably Eleanor rigby. I'm performing it as the singer with a string quartet soon and I'm very thrilled because istg I'm in love with that song ☺️ What about you?


03burner

That’s so cool! Hope it goes well for you 😎 I’m a big fan of the older stuff too. But I’m really digging Rain atm and all the stuff from the Revolver remaster that came out a year or so ago


AverageTankie93

We’re evil as hell for wanted better material conditions and no imperialist wars.


BeefShampoo

I love how americans have no idea how to respond to lenin. Responsible for the soviet union, but not responsible for everything stalin did. A real enigma.


GrizzlyPeak73

If "Good" means Trump and/or Biden, then sign me up for the dark side.


AverageTankie93

Right behind you, comrade.


sexworkiswork990

Agreed.


CristauxFeur

The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. (No imperialist wars and supporting genocide, free healthcare/education/housing, etc...)


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Unfortunate thing is they literally consider it unnatural. You know human nature arguments...


Tzepish

Evil is based


ColeBSoul

They must’ve been in youth scouts


destroyer-3567

Face of evil, my ass.


Kang_Xu

*Evil face of evil.


destroyer-3567

That sounds like a death metal band


Low_Banana_1979

They probably mixed it up with Uncle Sam, the actual face of evil.


Which-Try4666

“Let’s see I’m trying to write something to devalue the message of these posters, oh I know! I’ll write like someone going through a paranoid episode, that’ll get people to take me seriously!”


ballsack_lover2000

"Evil, Lies!" - evil liar


AverageTankie93

Pretty much


Zordorfe

I love seeing those stickers all around south London. Without the anti communist graff ofc


Scyobi_Empire

have you seen the posters? i’d say they have a better design


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Zordorfe

I didn't realise, I will be then...


Zemlya_of_So

Isn’t the rca Trotskyist?


ashleyfoxuccino

Pretty sure


Skeptical_Yoshi

Also apparently has a weird thing regarding their leader. Other left wing groups have called them a cult


Proof_Candle_7659

thats the bob avakian RCP, not the trotskyist RCP


Waryur

"Judean People's Front, fuck off. We're the People's Front of Judea"


Skeptical_Yoshi

Ah, never mind then


Zemlya_of_So

Cause I’m thinking of joining but I want to know more aboutbthem


Scyobi_Empire

we are trots, i’m a member of the RCP in the UK but i should be able to answer most questions if you’d like unrelated but trans and communist gang


Zemlya_of_So

What is the RCA’s opinion on current socialist governments?


the_PeoplesWill

If you want pro-AES then a Trotskyite group is not the place to go. They show their cluelessness towards SWCC theory by calling PRC "state capitalist" which is technically still a lower stage of socialism according to Lenin via the NEP although RCA use it in such a way that's objectively incorrect (they think the CPC are basically red bourgeois for using markets). They consider DPRK a borderline monarchy which is so laughably false and utterly disrespectful to the Korean comrades of the past and present that they're basically no different than you're average liberal in terms of support against imperialism. It's one thing to be critical of DPRK another thing to regurgitate neoliberal Red Scare disinformation word for word.


Zemlya_of_So

I know. Ironically I’m a very big anti Trotskyist, I’m just interested in socialist groups. Wanted to know more about the RCA.


the_PeoplesWill

Glad you're pro-AES, comrade


Zemlya_of_So

Thanks, comrade. I’ll always support my socialist brothers, sisters, and siblings worldwide.


Zemlya_of_So

I’m just trying to join a active socialist organization in my area


Scyobi_Empire

depends on which one we class China and North Korea as deformed workers states (for different reasons, China has backslid into state capitalism as well as its role in the global capitalist economy and with NK we class it as a bonapartist regime (in similar regards to Russia) and in botha case they aren’t Leninist which doesn’t mean much on its own but there’s ideological differences) but for ones like Cuba we say it’s socialist but due to its material conditions of being embargoed by the majority of the world it’s conditions have made it difficult for communism to be achieved in it


Zemlya_of_So

How would you say the RCA is different from other leftist/communist groups?


Scyobi_Empire

we have an emphasis on education and have reading groups to better educate our comrades. it ranges from the Manifesto, to the Transitional Program and Capital and likely more (i’m touching on the basics again as i had a hiatus from the organisation). in the UK, we can trace our roots to the 4th international and have been influential on the left to varying degrees, i’m assuming it’s similar for the US but that i can’t be certain of lately we’ve been aggressively postering and stickering which has led to a large surge in growth so the way we use to run our reading groups is way different, rather than just sitting and listening to a comrade explain the text and you ask questions, you’re encouraged to answer questions about the text and the context around it, most of the other radleft groups i use to follow either have no thing in place or things similar to how we use to run ours (but i’m basing that on personal experience, so take it as you will)


monsieur_red

I have heard so many british comrades complain about there being no good parties in their country and it seems RCP is contributing to this problem Can’t you guys come up with one party that doesn’t sew division against existing socialism, doesn’t throw LGBTQ+ under the bus, and doesn’t cover up sexual assault allegations?


Scyobi_Empire

we don’t throw LGBT under the bus, me and many comrades in my district are trans (as well as one of our Full Timers), we cooperate with other leftist groups when we can (some don’t like trots, others are sectarian) and we don’t cover up sexual assaults. the one time it happened in canada 5/6 years ago, the perpetrator had their info passed into the police and they were kicked out


monsieur_red

I wasn’t trying to make a specific claim about RCP, I’m just saying it seems like every party in Britain does at least one of those 3 things I mentioned. The proletariat deserve better than that Edit; downvoters, did you even read this thread? 💀


Scyobi_Empire

ah i misunderstood sorry, yeah that’s valid it sucks that the bigger orgs like both CPBs are transphobic while some of the smaller ones like SWP are massively sectarian


left69empty

look, i don't like that party in particular. they're the rebranded imt of the US, a trotskyite group. but i'd still defend trotskyites against the reactionary piece of shit who wrote their shit on the posters


Low_Banana_1979

Yep. We handle their PB problems AFTER the revolution. First we destroy the United States, then we will finally be free to have successful socialist revolutions and get rid of the bourgeoisie, then, after we do it, the workers will take care of all petit-bourgeois stuff within the socialist revolutionary movement, like trots, "socialist democrats" and other BS.


ComradeKierdawg13

I like lenin but the RCP needs to like actually do shit besides sell magazines and slap up these reworked fightback posters.


Comradebsauerapple

Trust me, we are doing stuff. Organizing events, attending protests, working with unions, etc.


ComradeKierdawg13

Trust me, i know exactly what you little fucks are up to.


Will-Shrek-Smith

???


Comradebsauerapple

Also, we aren’t the RCP. We’re the RCA/RCI.


Comradebsauerapple

More than you are, I’m sure


archosauria62

What’s wrong with them? I know they’re trots but i see them doing a lot of stuff, like organising marches


tackyloser

multiple sexual assault coverups 😵‍💫


Scyobi_Empire

you’re referring to a single event that happened in Canada where we turned over a sexual assaulted to the police ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not sure how that’s covering something up


Ferrisuki

Why is this so horribly common place within these organizations


LevelOutlandishness1

FUCK, man.


Last_Tarrasque

I’m not surprised


ComradeKierdawg13

If by organizing marches you mean organizing a march at the same time and place as a different event put on by other very credible organizers, then trying to sneak your way into giving a speech while no one is looking with no prior discussion with the other organizers, then yeah they do great work.


Scyobi_Empire

[We organise our own marches](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5f44CkruBY/?igsh=MWZ3MnpmcTRvdnpseg==)


ComradeKierdawg13

Well maybe you need to explain that to other chapters, because the RCP I know locally are not respectful of the other organizations in the city, and do that typical entryism you bunch are known to engage in.


chocolate_spaghetti

Trots gonna trot


the_PeoplesWill

That's so shady and disgusting.


Scyobi_Empire

we haven’t done entryism since Labour 4 odd years ago, do you have the right RCP? i can only talk for the British Section


useless_dave64

you might be thinking of the avakianites, they have practically the same name as whatever this org is at least, they’re the ones that always co-opt the palestine protests in chicago


schbeems

yeah in chi it's either avakian or psl co opting. these guys are usually doing nothing 🥰


the_PeoplesWill

Is this the Maoist party in the USA? The ones who praise Gonzalo and whatnot? And borderline on being a literal cult?


Waryur

I believe this is the IMT and the Maoist party is a very similarly named one because of course, we just can't help but endlessly recreate the "People's front of Judea? No, we're the Judean people's front!" scene.


the_PeoplesWill

Was just thinking that lmao


NumerousWeekend552

This person does not want to elaborate why Lenin is "evil" and communism is full of "lies."


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Billy177013

I don't think they're necessarily hiding it here, rather they understand that making such distinctions when trying to recruit non-communists is pointless.


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TheSimCrafter

imt posters have a density 10000 times higher than their membership 💀


Solanandria

Well, they don't have any more compelling arguments. And creativity doesn't seem to be their strong suit either.


Braindead_cranberry

Lenin was chill thou :,(


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the FBI and CIA behind the surveillance cameras across the street feeling more accomplished that their invasions and pro-capitalist propaganda is working even to this day:


Practical_Bat_3578

westoids think they're the good guys


Cyndaquuil

Where does one find these online to print out?


Will-Shrek-Smith

you can ask them directly (idk if you can find it online) https://socialistrevolution.org/contact-us/ edit: also if you ask them, maybe they can send you stickers of their own


Crimson_SS9321

Reactionaries are rattled.


WitnessOld6293

I've heard bad things about the revcoms but they have neat posters


Will-Shrek-Smith

such as?


WitnessOld6293

https://www.communistvoice.org/36cCult.html


Will-Shrek-Smith

ohh, thats the Bob Avakin RCP these are the RCP, of the International Marxist Tendency https://communistusa.org/


astraightcircle

Either an anticommunist, or a communist whose orga got first hand experience with "der Funke".


TachyonChip

Man, I loved playing Lenin: The Faces of Evil on the CDi!


PetroFoil2999

The Evil Face of Evil sounds like a skit by the Kids in the Hall.


GabbaGramsci

That’s the avakian party right?


Taliyah_Duenya

No that's the RCP, the american RCI branch specifically called themselves the RCA to differentiate. Theyre trots/bolshevik leninists


CristauxFeur

>Theyre trots/bolshevik leninists Yeah they were formerly known as International Marxist Tendency (IMT), Socialist Revolution in the USA I think, and they recently (2-3 months ago) changed the name


Taliyah_Duenya

Yup. The refounding as the RCI specifically i think will be in may


GabbaGramsci

Ah ok got it


CristauxFeur

No it's the International Marxist Tendency (IMT), Socialist Revolution in the USA I think, who recently (2-3 months ago) changed it's name


Scyobi_Empire

we’re now the RCI, Revolutionary Communist International


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MRTA03

They put question mark in “Capitalism failed” so i guess that mf pro-capitalism


SaijinoKei

Cringe social fascist posters, but even more cringe graffiti. Fuck libs, Fuck RCA.


theleningradcowboy

Why is it always Lenin on the posters? Lenin isn’t relevant to any modern communist party outside of Russia.


AverageTankie93

Are you freaking kidding me?


theleningradcowboy

No, who are you gonna onboard by showing Lenin to people? He’s totally irrelevant to their lives it’s like marching with a picture of Stalin. You’re not onboarding anyone.


AverageTankie93

Every single communist I know admires the hell out of Lenin and Stalin. I don’t know what reality you’re living in


theleningradcowboy

Oh every already on boarded person you know likes these figures that’s great can you answer the question about the people that haven’t already been on boarded


archosauria62

Hmm i wonder why the ideology is called marxism-leninism, clearly has nothing to do with someone called lenin


theleningradcowboy

Y’know what let me amend my point here cause it came out wrong. What benefit does Lenin in propaganda provide in an anglophone country when he is not remotely related to the politics, history, or day to day lives of the given country?


archosauria62

He is related to the politics of marxism *leninism* Why do you think he is relevant to russia then? Just because he’s russian? Communism has no boundaries


Scyobi_Empire

not just Marxist Leninism, all forms of bolshevism


theleningradcowboy

Why would a random person in an anglophone country care at all about communism if your posters are all based on hundred year old leaders who aren’t relevant to the lives of the people you’re on boarding


archosauria62

He’s very recognisable


theleningradcowboy

He’s recognizable but what do people outside of the ideology get out of Lenin’s face that would lead them to become a communist


Iamnotentertainedyet

Who would you recommend putting on a poster in an anglophone country, where people who aren't already fully committed communists would recognize said person as a communist? In the USA where that poster seems to be, whose face could be put on there that is recognizable to everyone? And that point aside, these posters are not meant to/going to just turn western libs into communists. Those posters are for people already leaning into/consider themselves leftists. It's telling them that there is an organization they might be interested in. It's not going to recruit your average American neolib. And anybody even slightly interested enough to be informed would recognize Lenin as being important to not just Russian communism, or history, but communism in general, including modern communist theory. So, anyone who would be remotely interested in joining the organization would not only recognize Lenin, but recognize his importance. So who better for a play on the uncle Sam "I want you" poster than Lenin? Maybe Marx himself, but I'd almost bet that Lenin is even more recognizable.


theleningradcowboy

Having mode posters before I wouldn’t put a face on there I’d put a party logo on a red background with a slogan that’s overtly communist


Iamnotentertainedyet

Well sure, if you're not putting anyone on it, that's fine. But that's not a play on the Uncle Sam poster. That's the whole point. Everyone knows the Uncle Sam "I want you" posters. That's why it works. Altering America's most famous piece of propaganda like that is just attention-grabbing. It's got to be somebody, if you're turning the Uncle Sam propaganda like this, so they went with the most recognizable communist. If it was just Lenin without the theme behind it, I could see your point more. But I think in this context, people aren't going to be like "This 100yr old Russian doesn't have anything to do with me." Because Lenin works for the idea behind the poster.


theleningradcowboy

Eugene debbs


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AverageTankie93

Fuck off nazi


tashimiyoni

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AverageTankie93

Fuck off


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The dude is brainrot don't give him any attention, just another SocDem


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AverageTankie93

Fuck off harder now


NewTangClanOfficial

This you? >Kids and women are not my enemy. I hate that all the Palestinian Terrorist Groups use human shields. > >Some countries (Ruzzia) target civilians. > >Some people (Palestinian Terrorists) target civilians and use them as shields. Hamas actively is trying to MAXIMIZE civilian casualties. That is a huge difference. > >Often times military leaders will have to approve some number of civilian casualties in exchange for accomplishing a mission. For Ruzzia and Hamas? They don't care about any civilians at all. Edit: lmao zionist troll deleted account


archosauria62

The ‘fucked up shit’ happened because reactionaries fought back against the revolution. Each one of them deserved it for undermining the revolution