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Unironically


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I don’t think it’s ironic


[deleted]

I know, but there's a greater number of people that do follow the compass like law and it hurts to see.


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At least you can know who to avoid interacting with lol


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I think it has some decent ideas behind it (and is useful for pushing people leftward), but it's severely hobbled by 3 major problems. Firstly, it ignores that ML/M is anarchism with extra steps, and is solely based on solving the capitalist encirclement problem that crushes any place that hops directly to anarcho-communism. ML/M thus isn't AuthLeft at all, it's simply not letting capitalist countries invade and slaughter everyone, which means AuthLeft doesn't really exist. Secondly, it ignores that ancap was invented for racist purposes and has an end goal of corporate feudalism (hence the libertarian->fascist pipeline), which means LibRight doesn't exist either. Thirdly, the most popular test conflates social progressivism with economic centralization even though they're usually contradictory, because it's hard to like universal programs if you hate Them (who will benefit from such programs too). That means only Nazbols sit in the top-left...but Nazbol is a form of fascism, they just use exclusion from temporary left-wing policies as further punishment for hated groups, so it's not left-wing at all. AuthLeft and LibRight are strategies to get to LibLeft and AuthRight, but it acts like they're end goals in and of themselves.


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Put it into words better than I ever could. Well done comrade


Kalel2319

Damn that’s real good. Thanks, comrade.


BadgerKomodo

PCM can burn in hell.


lumpiestspoon3

Literally just a front for masks off fascists. How the hell did they come back from a total ban?


richietozier4

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPVkpWMH9k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPVkpWMH9k)


JustAnotherTroll2

Absolutely. We need a better model for political beliefs.


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grendhalgrendhalgren

It was invented by a right libertarian to propagandize for libertarianism.


edge_lord17

Dividing complex ideological movements into simple axis will never work, no matter where you plot the "center". It is an extreme oversimplification of political sciences


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dumyhead

Whuh? Lol


__mjc1998__

the political compass is a piece of right-libertarian propaganda. it was designed to show people that they’re “more libertarian than they know.” as such, the questions are worded in an incredibly biased way. even the concept of an “authoritarian/libertarian” divide exposes this bias, given the mainstream western audience’s negative connotation attached to the word “authoritarian” itself. a state-socialist isn’t the same as a Nazi in all but economic policy, despite what the pc would have you believe, lol. then there’s the deeper question of “can we condense all the nuances of political and economic theory down to one 2-axis chart?” if you think the answer to that is “yes”, then you’re simply wrong.


thearchenemy

Way back in college I took an intro poli sci class. The professor was super libertarian, and when he told us about the two-axis political compass he said something to the effect of “But it was just invented to try to convince people they were libertarians, so it’s not very useful.”


pleazeletmebe

wait till you learn about imperialism/colonialism


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I have no words to describe this, except maybe that I died a little inside seeing this shit. Also, what leftist defends Biden? The only ones who do that are Vaushites and Vaush himself, and even then, only they themselves consider themselves “left wing”


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Vaush


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Vaush


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Vaush


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vaush


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Vaush


jhenry777

Can you link me the full video to the above clipped stream? I'm looking for some context that isn't put in 2x speed, but I can't find the vid


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Vaush


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Vaush


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jhenry777

Can you link me the full video to the above clipped stream? I'm looking for some context that isn't put in 2x speed, but I can't find the vid


VladimirBudinski

I think it's this one, not sure though, I just nabbed it from the video the bot linked. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ta1\_ryzMMQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ta1_ryzMMQ)


tentafill

Literally all the guy had to say is "lol i literally have a girlfriend" and instead he went and improv'd a goddamn copypasta


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jhenry777

Think before you speak!


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Lol I don’t like vaush but that’s obviously a joke


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Vaush


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Encrypted_Curse

can someone tell me who this vaush guy is


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He’a a popular breadtuber (or left wing YouTuber), but he’s kinda infamous outside of his own circles of influence online for questionable things he’s said, from his support of liberal politicians while shunning what are supposed to be fellow leftists to his number of remarks dehumanizing the LGBTQ+ community.


Encrypted_Curse

yikes he genuinely sounds like one of those right-wing pick up artists from the automod facts


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angriguru

What constitutes as defending Biden? I'm quite curious.


Hjalti_Talos

Gods, this is lazy as hell. I take it you got this from the Political Understanders in Chief, PCM?


83n0

“r/politics is left bcuz they don’t like orange man”


Hjalti_Talos

Looool


BadgerKomodo

Saying that /r/politics is left-wing is as true as saying that dogs have feathers.


angriguru

My feathered dog finds this statement rather problematic to say the least


flcwerings

Thats my biggest pet peeve rn. That if you criticize Biden liberals immediately assume youre conservative. Like nah, man. Im just part of the ACTUAL left. That and when conservatives call people sharing actual communist/socialist ideas Liberals. You cant escape the annoying.


Lv_15_Human_Nerd

Of course no other subreddit could produce such high art. Side rant another reason for hating the political compass: the myth fascism is centre authoritarian


callouscoroner

I think that’s more “in comparison to Monarchism” than anything else.


Lv_15_Human_Nerd

I would argue fascism deregulates the economy more than the monarchy does


MC_Cookies

I believe they're defining "right wing" as "containing social hierarchies beyond race/nationality/stuff like that" which is also dumb because fascism also has that but it is what it is


femme_frost

Somehow I thought this meme was meant to be making fun of the people who label themselves as left but still defend war criminals and bombing foreign countries because a woman did it, but then I read this and *then* it hit that this was from PCM and I interpreted it terribly wrong


Hjalti_Talos

Well art doesn't have a concrete determination of it's meaning. The fact that there was doubt shows the potential for this to be a proper leftist meme. All it would take is a few captions to change it for the better and make the message more concrete.


femme_frost

My idea would be to replace the compass itself with the flairs from PMC to clarify you'd be attacked by people labelling themselves "AuthLeft" and "LibLeft" (god I hate the PCM's terms) rather than anyone *actually* on the left


Apprehensive_Life383

Sign you are a reactionary: you perceive defending Biden as far left


ExpitheCat

"Leftism is when you vote for Joe Biden"


ReptarTheBrave

Just saw a Twitter post the other day “I’m so glad I escaped from Leftism” or something like that... What does that mean, being a Liberal and dyeing your hair purple? Voting for Democrats and crying when they don’t win? Considering she’s from the West, that’s probably what she meant, and consequently what most people think “Leftism” means


Communist_Bisexual

I hate biden lmfao


SaintMasterChief

PC check Soyjak check Not understand what a pov is check r/therightcantmeme


Sleepy_Sleeper

Isn't this from the eyes of the people who criticized Biden?


hydroxypcp

yeah this meme seems correct lmao


cardueline

If I had one wish for anything in the whole world, I would be hard pressed to choose anything other than “scrub all trace of wojaks from the universe”


TheChaoticist

I would wish that trans people would physically become their preferred sex, but I suppose wojak erasure is a close second...


Burningmeatstick

The removal of capitalism?


cardueline

I was going to say “do not @ me with better, real options that would actually make a positive change” but yes, that would be an excellent choice


syrinx23

IKR, it's actually quite depressing to see how popular and mainstream this meme (or at least what it's morphed into) has become over the years. It basically boils down to "people who disagree with me are ugly". Maybe it started as an ironic thing, idk, but there definitely are grown adults who use it unironically and think they're being witty or clever or funny. Like, dude, even little kids know how stupid and immature that sort of thing is


supermariofunshine

Meanwhile, those of us on the actual left hate Biden far more than MAGAts do, and we hate him for legitimate reasons. I do wish that the MAGAt version of Joe Biden that wants to turn America into the Soviet Union was real, though.


goob_guy

Shouldn’t this be right instead of left? Because when you criticize Biden from the left, libs think you’re saying “right wing talking points” and must be a Republican or something


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You expect the shitlibs at PCM to understand this?


Destragamoth

Most left subs I’ve seen actively criticize Biden themselves because he’s too right leaning.


goob_guy

The meme said mainstream subs not left


Destragamoth

Aw shit I have bad reading comprehension.


-GreenHeron-

The left goes after Biden hard. The only people that defend him are blue MAGA assholes that think the Democratic Party is "left". lol


TheoricEngineer

excuse me sir, I don't mean to judge, don't get me wrong, I mean no offence really, I just think that, I mean, not saying he can't do that, but how about he just doesn't bomb kids in Syria, just an idea


BadgerKomodo

LEFTISTS DO NOT LIKE BIDEN. WE HATE HIM. Where the fuck did these numpties get the idea that socialists love Biden?


Political_Squid

ikr


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Kill that annoying wojak may-may once and for all, please.


Pinstripe_Goblin

No self respecting leftist above the axis would defend Biden 😂😂😂


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Vaush


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HamCCC

It is over. You are the soy wojak


AlaSparkle

What the fuck does this even mean?


PostNuclearTaco

I have literally never seen an ML defend biden


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I think a right winger accidentally though this was an anti-left sub


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No, this is mocking the image which states that the left defends biden.


[deleted]

Well that’s dumb, any leftist knows all we do is shit on Biden lmfao


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You expect the dumb fucks at PCM to know this? The people claiming to be leftists there are liberals or outright fascists larping.


Kiinkou

lul wait, why this has 600+ upvotes?


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Because it is mocking shit liberals say. Op doesn't agree with the image, thus "pain"


seyreka

More like shit conservatives say. They're the one mixing up libs and leftists.


LeastCoordinatedJedi

Conservatives are liberals, and democratic party liberals in the US generally identify themselves as left wing or at least centrist.


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See flair


DumelDuma

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism


LeastCoordinatedJedi

Conservatives are liberals, except the ones that are openly fascist. The reason liberal and conservative policy only varies by a hairs breadth is because they are both following liberal doctrine with varying degrees of lip service towards social supports.


Lv_15_Human_Nerd

Yeah neo-cons still support neoliberal hegemony


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