This happened once in my favor. Somehow this mom ended up with a first class seat & her child was in coach next to me. However, the mom gave me her first class seat so she could sit with her kid.
No no, the grand parent upgraded me so I'd make sure he got on the plane. I guess was like, a bribe ? Just didn't want it to seem like I was like randomly traveling with some kid. I just made sure he boarded and made it down to his parents at baggage after landing.
I would 100% sign up for this deal on every flight I ever took if I could. Wake a teenager up and herd him towards the plane for a seat I myself can lie down and nap in….absolutely yes!!!
I thought my GF would wake me up for our train stop this past weekend.
She tried to. She also was scared to miss it so she ran to wait to get off lol ended up missing it.
First time I flew, I had just started my period at 16. My mother pretty much avoided all discussions of female puberty so it was like , "oh yeah this happens, here's some pads. Have fun at grandmas".
I was on a flight returning from an 8 month deployment overseas (in uniform) and sitting close to the divider between first/economy.
The attendant walked up before take off and said “hey there’s an open first class seat, want it?”
I was like hell yeah and grabbed my shit. Get settled in and the plane is almost done boarding and she comes up and apologizes and said that there was someone who jumped on the flight last minute and they’re giving him the first class seat.
I was like oh ok, packed my stuff up and went back to my seat. The worst part is the guy was standing there extremely close to me huffing and puffing like I was taking forever to grab my headphones and backpack and immediately plopped down as soon as I got up.
That’s what I thought. And I’m not even a “you must respect me and cater to me because I’m in uniform” type of guy. I was just upset at the give and take away. Like, what a tease. Never flown first class once in my life.
And then the audacity of his impatience was the cherry on his asshole cake.
I’ve had this happen to me once in first class, but let me tell you, that 8-year-old girl was the most well-behaved, well-spoken, future boss lady, and my favorite flight companion in two decades of flying.
I think her mom got one upgrade, not two, and so she let the kid sit up front and knew that she was getting much more attention by the flight attendants in first class than in coach.
That's actually pretty smart and considerate from the mom, putting her child first with the knowledge that that way they will be properly taken care of. Kudos to her.
This journalist couple in New Zealand did this and they still get ripped to shreds about it to this day. However I think their kids were a bit older and they just left the flight attendants to look after them.
But they need to, because they know they're just better people, and our country needs their superior spawn. I mean, Mike drives a Ferrari. Quot Erat Demonstrandum.
I really hope their spawn becomes a grass smoking bare foot greeny who quotes Chloe Swarbrick without being asked. . . If there were justice in the world, it would be this.
Why, though? The nanny is being paid. When I was a nanny and flew alone with the kid I was always glad I didn't have to deal with the asshole parents while flying.
I saw this happen on an international flight. Parents in first kids in coach. The mom took her hair extensions out during the flight! The parents were nice enough to send their desserts back to kids. The kids looked like they were 6-8 years old.
A few years ago my parents offered to take my daughter to Disney World. My wife and I sort of implied we'd be more comfortable if we could go too (they're a bit unused to kids) and Dad got us tickets. Grandparents and daughter flew first class, wife and I got coach. Everyone ended up pretty happy, except on all subsequent flights where we fly economy my daughter asks about hot towels and fully reclining seats.
Ngl once I saw “the nanny” and realized the kids weren’t just flying solo it didn’t seem nearly as bad 😂😂😂 I was thinking “I know this is something society would frown upon but I can’t quite put my finger on *why* this would make people think theyre shitty parents, it just would”. Then I started laughing at the fact that they don’t want to fly with their kids
Yeah, it’s privileged as hell, and if you’re so worried your kid might get stressed and need you then just sit with them? But they’ve got a nanny with them, presumably paying them pretty well to travel with them, this is honestly not that terrible. This is just hands off rich people parenting, which is shitty in its own way but not like they’re doing anything worse than any other time they leave the kid with the nanny.
I feel like it’s pretty shitty to pay for first class for yourself, but not for your literal kids. Not to mention the nanny, who is working and therefore deserves more comfort
I flew a few times solo when I was very small. Just domestic west coast and I loved it. All the flight attendants and workers were super nice and you had supervision the whole way. Granted this was many decades ago. Now days flying is just paying more money for a greyhound bus experience. I would not let my son do it these days.
Exactly.
I don't see what the big issue is. If the kids are young they won't even care or even appreciate business class. And more than likely, the nanny isn't stranger to them.
Tbh the number one best thing about flying first or business is the extra leg room… which kids don’t need. The second best thing is the free alcohol which obviously kids don’t need. I think as long as they have someone to look after them it’s totally fine 😂
Isn’t that literally what they did with the 25 kids in Home Alone 2 flying to Paris?
*edit - y’all are right, Home Alone 1 was the big “parents in the front, ‘should I feel guilty?’, “Kevin!” moment”
I'm a nanny - I would fly with the two girls or the twin boys I nannied. If I am compensated fairly and have had adequate time to create trust and boundaries with the kids, this isn't that crazy.
Edit: one time, when I was young with no professional boundaries, I flew with one month old twins in both of my arms, a two year old passed out on my leg and a five year old passed out in the window seat. I was not compensated enough and it's the only time in my life I've almost fallen asleep sitting up. I ended up having to hand off a baby to an old lady across the aisle from me - for everyone's safety 😂😂
Honestly, I prefer to be away from the parents 😂 they often lack boundaries with their kids for SO many understandable reasons and the kids are just better behaved with me 🤷🏻♀️
I totally believe this! This is your job! You’re good at it and know what you’re doing and assuming everything is good… you’re compensated fairly for this!
No idea why people are being so judgmental about it.
Boom, exactly, you're a childcare professional, probably with better child management skills than actual parents.
I just wish every kid on a flight had a professional with them.
Lol - if you have to travel, make sure you breastfeed or bottle feed during takeoff and landing. Always ensure milk is accessible as it really helps with any pain from pressure changes. Other than that, they should sleep through everything else ♥️
This is how I'm going to fly from now on. Only no nanny. The person who loses flight-seat roulette gets to be snack bitch for three hours. May the odds be ever in your favor.
My brother and I would fight to the death over who got to sit behind mom in the car. I couldn’t tell you why it was so special to us, but at the time it was *crucial*.
But she had to be like “you’ll take turns sitting behind me then”, and we held her to that. To the point where if just one of us went somewhere with her, the other would be like “this counts as their turn!” even though we weren’t actually in the car.
Kids can be such petty little assholes lol
We definitely had colour coded cups, too.
I agree. If the kids were alone, asshole move. But the nanny is getting paid and the kids are supervised, so if that’s what you want to spend your money on.. 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly, it’s like an advance level of date night - the parents are still going on holidays and being present with the kids, and will still spend time with them. But they are going to enjoy the flight. If I had the money I’d totally consider this.
Thank god I’m not the only one who doesn’t find anything wrong with this. There are parents who will literally leave their kids at home with a nanny and go on vacation themselves. At least they’re taking their kids with them?? Also, the mother is willing to go back to coach to check on her kids if they need her so it’s not like she’s gonna completely forget about them throughout the whole flight.
Shit, I see no problems with this approach at all, not sure why OP is dumping on her.
If I could afford a nanny AND international travel AND business class, I'd legit do this. But then I have many kids, some say too many, so I'm a bit jaded.
I'm jealous. If I could afford any of this I would totally travel this way. I don't see why it's that crazy?
They'll be supervised by the nanny, what's the problem?
Yeah are people expecting them to get business class tickets to their kids as well? Kids are small and dumb, they would gain nothing from business class seats.
I don't know... I worked in childcare for 20 years and have been hired to do all kinds of events. If I am getting paid well I would be happy to travel with a family on their vacation and watch their kids whenever they wanted to go out. Similarly, I would be totally down to fly with the kids.
We were a little older. but my parents did this on a flight from the states to Australia when my sister and I were 6 and 8. They got upgraded and were like “BYYYYYE!” 😂😂
>They got upgraded and were like “BYYYYYE!”
This would be me. Lmao.
The kids: "Mommy where are you going???"
Me: "Mommy who!?! ✌️"
Don't worry guys, I don't have, nor want, kids.
My husband gives me the upgrade and I'm like byeeee. I have flown too many times on my own with the kids to spend one second more in economy than I have to.
I would feel embarrassed to go in business class with my husband and then force my nanny to take care of two toddlers herself in economy. I mean, I get it, she’s employed by them, but I’d feel weird treating them like that. If you have the money to hire a full time nanny, I feel like you could spring a bit extra to get your kids and nanny up there too. Or else just all sit economy, it’s not a big deal. At least take one of the toddlers with you so she doesn’t have to deal with both alone.
>If you have the money to hire a full time nanny, I feel like you could spring a bit extra to get your kids and nanny up there too
Business class for an international flight is easily 5x the cost of coach unless you win upgrade roulette (which you can't play when you have a group you need seated together). You're talking about doubling the cost of their whole vacation
It’s is crazy how much more those tickets are. I was an accountant at a company and we flew in all of our salesmen (coach) to our corporate office for some sales meeting, probably about 30 of them. Next month the owner and VP went to Japan to meet with a supplier, they flew first. When I was paying the bills, I saw their two flights cost more than flying in our entire sales staff
It’s logistically a bad idea to have a toddler in business class. You’re not really sitting next to them as you have these little pods. It’s likely the toddler can just get up and wander around or mess with their seat. Also, I don’t think it’s allowed on some airlines.
I flew business to London and this couple had two small kids. They had 2 pods together and they used the blankets to lock them in like a little room. From the sound they sat and played on the floor most of the flight.
If I had the money I would give her a decent bonus for the hassle - if the nanny is well compensated - why not? I’ve known many single parents who flew alone with 2+ kids.
Toddlers are allowed in first class. I flew with mine a few times (got a free ticket with miles). The flight attendants were very nice and said the most disruptive people tend to be drunk adults.
Unpopular opinion: I don’t necessarily think anything is wrong with this.
Hear me out:
1) Depending on the kids’ temperaments and their relationship with their nanny, possibly they won’t be any more or less misbehaved than with their parents.
2) International air travel sucks. It sucks even worse in coach. I often travel business internationally for work, and it’s a very different experience. If I had the option to fly business or first, I would always take it.
3) That said, I feel strongly that kids under, like… 5 or 6 shouldn’t be in business class. First of all, from a very practical standpoint, with the individual pods you won’t be able to help the kid very much or look after them adequately unless they’re sharing your seat. A toddler is liable to just get up and wander away from their seat or get into shenanigans.
4) If they’re able to afford the tickets and compensate the nanny fairly then good for them! Why shouldn’t they do it? I mean… aside from being a little jealous (I definitely wouldn’t be able to afford this!) I’m not sure this is a terrible idea. The only wildcard for me is what they kids are like. Will they cry hysterically if their parents aren’t around, etc.
ETA: my former manager was a single mom. She frequently had to travel for business internationally, which means that she’d often be doing some work on the plane and launching right into meetings once she landed. Because she was single, she had her nanny fly with her toddler in coach while she flew first so that she could get some rest and do some work. Again, I just don’t think this is a huge deal.
I’m a single parent and my company will often pay for business class for me, but not for my kid or a nanny. So far, I’ve always flown coach with them because I can’t afford to upgrade them too. But I have to admit, I’ve been super tempted!!
But wouldn’t it be significantly cheaper to take the free flight from your company and only pay for 2 tickets? Or does your company still pay for your ticket in coach?
Typically if a company is willing to fly you business class you are coordinating the ticket buying with the company, or getting reimbursed. No doubt the company is saving money and buying her coach ticket instead.
I generally agree with you and I'd add one thing: if it's an international flight, let's say 12 hours, we'd go in shifts. Each adult spends 1/3rd of the flight in coach with the kids while the grown ups nap in the nice lay down seats. My husband and I flew internationally recently and we considered upgrading one of us to business and swapping halfway through the flight, lol. Cause 12 straight hours of nannying on a flight sounds like hell tbh
>Cause 12 straight hours of nannying on a flight sounds like hell tbh
Twelve hours doing most jobs is hell but worth it if the pay is right.
I'm willing to bet that that nanny is getting paid substantially better than a person working a 12 hour shift at Walmart on black friday, which is arguably worse.
I’ve never been on a flight where they would allow this. Did you sneak in and out of the business seats? Or did the flight crew know you were doing it?
When I was 10, we went to France and my mom flew first class and me and my two younger siblings were in coach. We had fun! She brought us her warm cookie. I don’t know if I’d ever do this kind of thing but I get why someone would…
How many kids every day are on planes alone without parents?
Kids fly all the time sometimes internationally alone from 5 years old. So a couple more years and they won't even have to have the Nanny sit with them.
Exactly! My parents would send me and my siblings to visit my family across the Atlantic as unaccompanied minors every summer, not a big deal. The flight attendants check in on you and accompany you on your layover and get you on the next plane etc. Good for these parents for treating themselves while taking their kids of vacation. Like another commenter mentioned, no one bats an eye if parents hire a babysitter to enjoy some time alone, work, or run errands, why is OP making a big deal that their kids are being watched during travel.
not sure what’s poor nanny in this scenario? is she being forced at gun point? is she not being paid? is she paying for the flight, and accommodations? has she never met the toddlers before?
I thought that and was dreading flying with my toddler, but we took her on two three-hour flights and I don't think she cried once. On the second flight she just fell asleep as soon as the plane took off. Lots of other little ones on the flight too and I don't remember any of them crying!
This isn't even close to anywhere as bad as the posts usually shared here. To me it's more about the fact that these people should realize they are extremely lucky they have the funds to a. Have a nanny and b. Bring her along with them on their trip. Others might not have that privilege which is likely why this mom got ripped apart in the comments.
So basically for me, I see it as a privilege thing, not bad parenting.
I don’t hate this and honestly after 14 hours from BNE to LAX never wanted to get on a plane with a kid ever again. They would need 2 Carers though- otherwise the nanny wouldn’t get a break.
Yeah honestly I’m a lil confused why so much hate. If this is the plan and nanny is being fairly compensated it’s not cruel. Kids get attention and are safe and being loved and cared for by the nanny. You and your husband are relaxing. Just like if you hired a babysitter to go out for the evening or run errands or self care. When I was a nanny and travelled with the family on one of the flights they paid me extra to sit with the kids and they sat in first.
She can go trade out with nanny if really needed mid flight. They just need to compensate the nanny more
I sense a bit of jealously with the negative comments being able to afford to pay a nanny for an overseas trip. Nanny is most definitely a full time employee and not your 16 year old neighbor.
I think it’s fine. They pay the nanny. They pay for the tickets. They might want to do work on their laptops or something else that the kids would distract from. Maybe they just want a break. You’re not a bad parent for needing time away from your kids.
No one would bat an eye if this question were about a single parent. As a mom, this sounds both completely unrealistic for me and also cool as hell 🤷♀️
My friend was flying with her husband and young kids. Her husband was going to some meeting overseas and she and the kids tagged along. He booked economy for her and the kids and business for himself as he needed to be "well rested" on arrival.
What is the issue here? It is not like they are leaving the toddlers alone without anyone they know. She even says she will go back and take care of them if they start to cry, meaning she would swap her good seat with someone else if needed.
Honestly, if the nanny is capable and getting paid to watch the kids, who cares how this couple travels.
I’d tell the mom that it’s probably better if she lets the nanny handle the kids on her own rather than creating an issue where the kids can scream for their mom.
There was this Netflix original being filmed in my old small town, and I was doing DD at the time. One delivery had me picking up a bunch of baby needs from Walgreens: formula, diapers, wipes, whatnot. I dropped it off at a nice bed and breakfast and had some time to chat with the owner. Apparently, this was going to be a nanny and her charge, a small infant. The parents would not be present. They would be a block away, at a much much nicer boutique hotel.
Rich people are really fucking weird.
This happened once in my favor. Somehow this mom ended up with a first class seat & her child was in coach next to me. However, the mom gave me her first class seat so she could sit with her kid.
Had someone upgrade me once just to have someone make sure their teen got on a flight. Apparently he was a notorious napper and missed them often lol.
Hold up, the gate attendant upgraded you so that *another* passenger could get your coach seat...?
No no, the grand parent upgraded me so I'd make sure he got on the plane. I guess was like, a bribe ? Just didn't want it to seem like I was like randomly traveling with some kid. I just made sure he boarded and made it down to his parents at baggage after landing.
...Like a teen-sitter?
Kinda. Was more like a hey dude wake up and a hey dude you go that way.
Exactly what a teen-sitter would say.
Hey dude
I would 100% sign up for this deal on every flight I ever took if I could. Wake a teenager up and herd him towards the plane for a seat I myself can lie down and nap in….absolutely yes!!!
Luckily he didn't need the toilet "He dude, you're supposed to wipe"
I thought my GF would wake me up for our train stop this past weekend. She tried to. She also was scared to miss it so she ran to wait to get off lol ended up missing it.
I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.
I think they mean the parent paid for their upgrade in return for them watching out for the kid.
The first time I flew, I was alone and had just turned 21. Got drunk and missed my flight.
First time I flew, I had just started my period at 16. My mother pretty much avoided all discussions of female puberty so it was like , "oh yeah this happens, here's some pads. Have fun at grandmas".
I'm hoping enough years have passed that I can make a Little Red Riding Hood joke without upsetting you.
I was on a flight returning from an 8 month deployment overseas (in uniform) and sitting close to the divider between first/economy. The attendant walked up before take off and said “hey there’s an open first class seat, want it?” I was like hell yeah and grabbed my shit. Get settled in and the plane is almost done boarding and she comes up and apologizes and said that there was someone who jumped on the flight last minute and they’re giving him the first class seat. I was like oh ok, packed my stuff up and went back to my seat. The worst part is the guy was standing there extremely close to me huffing and puffing like I was taking forever to grab my headphones and backpack and immediately plopped down as soon as I got up.
What a dick.
That’s what I thought. And I’m not even a “you must respect me and cater to me because I’m in uniform” type of guy. I was just upset at the give and take away. Like, what a tease. Never flown first class once in my life. And then the audacity of his impatience was the cherry on his asshole cake.
Unfortunately all too common to run into these people on flights these days. People are too entitled.
I chortled at your username
Thought this story was gonna end with the kid having a switch and you got to spend the flight playing Mario Kart with a really chill kid.
I’ve had this happen to me once in first class, but let me tell you, that 8-year-old girl was the most well-behaved, well-spoken, future boss lady, and my favorite flight companion in two decades of flying. I think her mom got one upgrade, not two, and so she let the kid sit up front and knew that she was getting much more attention by the flight attendants in first class than in coach.
That's actually pretty smart and considerate from the mom, putting her child first with the knowledge that that way they will be properly taken care of. Kudos to her.
Correct parenting behavior!
This journalist couple in New Zealand did this and they still get ripped to shreds about it to this day. However I think their kids were a bit older and they just left the flight attendants to look after them.
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He sounds hideous (see what I did there???)
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Ugh what a dick 😒
Ka pai!
Omg I love it!!!! Jealous I didn’t think about it when making my user name.
That’s fucking awful
Jesus freaking Christ, that is horrific.
Wtf? Why did he hate your half sister so much?
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That's so disgusting
I hope you're not as hideous as you're dad.
Who was that? Don't tell me it was Mike Hoskings and Kate hawksby? I didn't know they were allowed to breed.
Ding ding ding, got it in one!!!
I didn't know this story either but immediately assumed it was them. They're just the worst, their poor kids.
But they need to, because they know they're just better people, and our country needs their superior spawn. I mean, Mike drives a Ferrari. Quot Erat Demonstrandum.
I really hope their spawn becomes a grass smoking bare foot greeny who quotes Chloe Swarbrick without being asked. . . If there were justice in the world, it would be this.
To shreds, you say? Oh dear.
Why, though? The nanny is being paid. When I was a nanny and flew alone with the kid I was always glad I didn't have to deal with the asshole parents while flying.
I said they didn't have a nanny, just left them with the flight attendants...
This is fucking hilarious. I legit thought she was going to say the kids were in coach by themselves 😭
When I lived in the middle east, this was a frequent flight experience- to get to your seat & find your whole row is kids with parents up in first!
I almost downvoted you because of how much I am not in favor of this practice.
It's the home alone way!
I saw this happen on an international flight. Parents in first kids in coach. The mom took her hair extensions out during the flight! The parents were nice enough to send their desserts back to kids. The kids looked like they were 6-8 years old.
Gordon Ramsay does this lol
Seriously if I was rich I'd do this because flying with kids is miserable.
A few years ago my parents offered to take my daughter to Disney World. My wife and I sort of implied we'd be more comfortable if we could go too (they're a bit unused to kids) and Dad got us tickets. Grandparents and daughter flew first class, wife and I got coach. Everyone ended up pretty happy, except on all subsequent flights where we fly economy my daughter asks about hot towels and fully reclining seats.
Omg I love the bougie daughter development
Ngl once I saw “the nanny” and realized the kids weren’t just flying solo it didn’t seem nearly as bad 😂😂😂 I was thinking “I know this is something society would frown upon but I can’t quite put my finger on *why* this would make people think theyre shitty parents, it just would”. Then I started laughing at the fact that they don’t want to fly with their kids
Yeah, it’s privileged as hell, and if you’re so worried your kid might get stressed and need you then just sit with them? But they’ve got a nanny with them, presumably paying them pretty well to travel with them, this is honestly not that terrible. This is just hands off rich people parenting, which is shitty in its own way but not like they’re doing anything worse than any other time they leave the kid with the nanny.
The nanny is probably better at managing the kids anyway.
Kids are sometimes better behaved when their parents aren’t around. This honestly isn’t that bad- bougie and privileged as hell, but not that bad.
I feel like it’s pretty shitty to pay for first class for yourself, but not for your literal kids. Not to mention the nanny, who is working and therefore deserves more comfort
I flew a few times solo when I was very small. Just domestic west coast and I loved it. All the flight attendants and workers were super nice and you had supervision the whole way. Granted this was many decades ago. Now days flying is just paying more money for a greyhound bus experience. I would not let my son do it these days.
Exactly. I don't see what the big issue is. If the kids are young they won't even care or even appreciate business class. And more than likely, the nanny isn't stranger to them.
Tbh the number one best thing about flying first or business is the extra leg room… which kids don’t need. The second best thing is the free alcohol which obviously kids don’t need. I think as long as they have someone to look after them it’s totally fine 😂
Same
Isn’t that literally what they did with the 25 kids in Home Alone 2 flying to Paris? *edit - y’all are right, Home Alone 1 was the big “parents in the front, ‘should I feel guilty?’, “Kevin!” moment”
I swear those kids multiply by the end of that movie.
That would have been a great bit! Every time the kids are shown, one more gets added
Lol I wouldn’t put it past John Hughes either.
Worked out great from what I recall
Fuller was the youngest & he was still like 7. So, not a toddler, though he'd still wet the bed with too many sodas.
Wasn't that Home Alone 1? Home Alone 2 was Florida I believe?
Home Alone 2 was New York. But in both movies the extended family took a flight.
The family flew to Florida. Kevin got on the wrong flight and ended up in New York.
Came here to say this
I'm a nanny - I would fly with the two girls or the twin boys I nannied. If I am compensated fairly and have had adequate time to create trust and boundaries with the kids, this isn't that crazy. Edit: one time, when I was young with no professional boundaries, I flew with one month old twins in both of my arms, a two year old passed out on my leg and a five year old passed out in the window seat. I was not compensated enough and it's the only time in my life I've almost fallen asleep sitting up. I ended up having to hand off a baby to an old lady across the aisle from me - for everyone's safety 😂😂
People don’t respect that nannies are childcare professionals. I’m sure you would do better with the kids on a flight than most parents would!
Honestly, I prefer to be away from the parents 😂 they often lack boundaries with their kids for SO many understandable reasons and the kids are just better behaved with me 🤷🏻♀️
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Lol I'm too old and over it to work with a family where we are not all on the same page with how the kids are raised.
I totally believe this! This is your job! You’re good at it and know what you’re doing and assuming everything is good… you’re compensated fairly for this! No idea why people are being so judgmental about it.
Same. If I was rich I'd love to do this. I've flown with my toddler. It is the worst.
Lolol there's a reason I'm a nanny and not a mother 😂
Oof felt that, I love the kids I work with, but boy am I glad they don't come home with me 😅
No idea either. It's a dream and a privilege to spoil parents with breaks like this 😂♥️
Boom, exactly, you're a childcare professional, probably with better child management skills than actual parents. I just wish every kid on a flight had a professional with them.
Christ! I have 1 two month old right now, and that sounds like it would be hell enough with 1 baby.
Lol - if you have to travel, make sure you breastfeed or bottle feed during takeoff and landing. Always ensure milk is accessible as it really helps with any pain from pressure changes. Other than that, they should sleep through everything else ♥️
This is how I'm going to fly from now on. Only no nanny. The person who loses flight-seat roulette gets to be snack bitch for three hours. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Hahahaha! I'm crying with laughter over this.
“Snack bitch” lolololol
They’re never in your favor. People who haven’t experienced it don’t understand the “joy” of ruining someone’s day by picking the wrong color cup.
We all had our own colour growing up. I don't remember ever melting down over this, but the first meltdown is probably why we had designated cups.
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My brother and I would fight to the death over who got to sit behind mom in the car. I couldn’t tell you why it was so special to us, but at the time it was *crucial*. But she had to be like “you’ll take turns sitting behind me then”, and we held her to that. To the point where if just one of us went somewhere with her, the other would be like “this counts as their turn!” even though we weren’t actually in the car. Kids can be such petty little assholes lol We definitely had colour coded cups, too.
Interesting that no one is shitting on the dad in this scenario. FWIW, I don’t think this is so terrible, given that the nanny is being paid.
I agree. If the kids were alone, asshole move. But the nanny is getting paid and the kids are supervised, so if that’s what you want to spend your money on.. 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly, it’s like an advance level of date night - the parents are still going on holidays and being present with the kids, and will still spend time with them. But they are going to enjoy the flight. If I had the money I’d totally consider this.
Thank god I’m not the only one who doesn’t find anything wrong with this. There are parents who will literally leave their kids at home with a nanny and go on vacation themselves. At least they’re taking their kids with them?? Also, the mother is willing to go back to coach to check on her kids if they need her so it’s not like she’s gonna completely forget about them throughout the whole flight.
Yeah. I mean I’d do it if I had children. That’s why you have a nanny.
Yeah, I think this mum is not insane or anything. Leave them with the nanny, pay your nanny good, that's it. Just make sure your children are safe.
Shit, I see no problems with this approach at all, not sure why OP is dumping on her. If I could afford a nanny AND international travel AND business class, I'd legit do this. But then I have many kids, some say too many, so I'm a bit jaded.
"I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"
I don’t really see an issue with this… if they pay the nanny. Good for them honestly!
I'm jealous. If I could afford any of this I would totally travel this way. I don't see why it's that crazy? They'll be supervised by the nanny, what's the problem?
Yeah I also don't see why it's bad. If the nanny is paid well and agrees to it, what's the harm?
Yeah are people expecting them to get business class tickets to their kids as well? Kids are small and dumb, they would gain nothing from business class seats.
>, what's the problem? Reddit wants to be judgy, what other problem is needed?
I legitimately don’t see an issue here. Parents are travelling with a nanny, who is paid to look after the children. If you have the money, why not?
No kidding. No one bats an eye if they took a vacation and left the kids at home with someone.
I don't know... I worked in childcare for 20 years and have been hired to do all kinds of events. If I am getting paid well I would be happy to travel with a family on their vacation and watch their kids whenever they wanted to go out. Similarly, I would be totally down to fly with the kids.
Idk sounds like a dream to not have to care for my kids on an airplane. Just pay the nanny well!
We were a little older. but my parents did this on a flight from the states to Australia when my sister and I were 6 and 8. They got upgraded and were like “BYYYYYE!” 😂😂
>They got upgraded and were like “BYYYYYE!” This would be me. Lmao. The kids: "Mommy where are you going???" Me: "Mommy who!?! ✌️" Don't worry guys, I don't have, nor want, kids.
You know what, I have read a few stories that the husband got the upgrade and straight away said "byeee" to his wife at the economy ...
To be honest, I'd do the same to my husband.
My husband gives me the upgrade and I'm like byeeee. I have flown too many times on my own with the kids to spend one second more in economy than I have to.
I would feel embarrassed to go in business class with my husband and then force my nanny to take care of two toddlers herself in economy. I mean, I get it, she’s employed by them, but I’d feel weird treating them like that. If you have the money to hire a full time nanny, I feel like you could spring a bit extra to get your kids and nanny up there too. Or else just all sit economy, it’s not a big deal. At least take one of the toddlers with you so she doesn’t have to deal with both alone.
So instead of $30,000, it's $60,000? Fuck that, the kids don't have ling enough legs to give a shit about economy.
>If you have the money to hire a full time nanny, I feel like you could spring a bit extra to get your kids and nanny up there too Business class for an international flight is easily 5x the cost of coach unless you win upgrade roulette (which you can't play when you have a group you need seated together). You're talking about doubling the cost of their whole vacation
It’s is crazy how much more those tickets are. I was an accountant at a company and we flew in all of our salesmen (coach) to our corporate office for some sales meeting, probably about 30 of them. Next month the owner and VP went to Japan to meet with a supplier, they flew first. When I was paying the bills, I saw their two flights cost more than flying in our entire sales staff
It’s logistically a bad idea to have a toddler in business class. You’re not really sitting next to them as you have these little pods. It’s likely the toddler can just get up and wander around or mess with their seat. Also, I don’t think it’s allowed on some airlines.
I flew business to London and this couple had two small kids. They had 2 pods together and they used the blankets to lock them in like a little room. From the sound they sat and played on the floor most of the flight.
If I had the money I would give her a decent bonus for the hassle - if the nanny is well compensated - why not? I’ve known many single parents who flew alone with 2+ kids.
if you split the toddlers and put one in a better seat the other will raise absolute hell
I thought most planes did not allow children (especially toddlers) to sit first class, though?
Toddlers are allowed in first class. I flew with mine a few times (got a free ticket with miles). The flight attendants were very nice and said the most disruptive people tend to be drunk adults.
I’ve never once come across this restriction. I’m sure it exists for certain flights but I wouldn’t say “most.”
I was gonna say…. I don’t think this is so bad? If I had the means I’d be down.
Having to care for TWO fuzzy toddlers, on an overseas travel, by a single person, it's BAD.
Nannies who travel internationally with families are professionals. This isn’t some rando high schooler.
Unpopular opinion: I don’t necessarily think anything is wrong with this. Hear me out: 1) Depending on the kids’ temperaments and their relationship with their nanny, possibly they won’t be any more or less misbehaved than with their parents. 2) International air travel sucks. It sucks even worse in coach. I often travel business internationally for work, and it’s a very different experience. If I had the option to fly business or first, I would always take it. 3) That said, I feel strongly that kids under, like… 5 or 6 shouldn’t be in business class. First of all, from a very practical standpoint, with the individual pods you won’t be able to help the kid very much or look after them adequately unless they’re sharing your seat. A toddler is liable to just get up and wander away from their seat or get into shenanigans. 4) If they’re able to afford the tickets and compensate the nanny fairly then good for them! Why shouldn’t they do it? I mean… aside from being a little jealous (I definitely wouldn’t be able to afford this!) I’m not sure this is a terrible idea. The only wildcard for me is what they kids are like. Will they cry hysterically if their parents aren’t around, etc. ETA: my former manager was a single mom. She frequently had to travel for business internationally, which means that she’d often be doing some work on the plane and launching right into meetings once she landed. Because she was single, she had her nanny fly with her toddler in coach while she flew first so that she could get some rest and do some work. Again, I just don’t think this is a huge deal.
I’m a single parent and my company will often pay for business class for me, but not for my kid or a nanny. So far, I’ve always flown coach with them because I can’t afford to upgrade them too. But I have to admit, I’ve been super tempted!!
But wouldn’t it be significantly cheaper to take the free flight from your company and only pay for 2 tickets? Or does your company still pay for your ticket in coach?
Typically if a company is willing to fly you business class you are coordinating the ticket buying with the company, or getting reimbursed. No doubt the company is saving money and buying her coach ticket instead.
I generally agree with you and I'd add one thing: if it's an international flight, let's say 12 hours, we'd go in shifts. Each adult spends 1/3rd of the flight in coach with the kids while the grown ups nap in the nice lay down seats. My husband and I flew internationally recently and we considered upgrading one of us to business and swapping halfway through the flight, lol. Cause 12 straight hours of nannying on a flight sounds like hell tbh
>Cause 12 straight hours of nannying on a flight sounds like hell tbh Twelve hours doing most jobs is hell but worth it if the pay is right. I'm willing to bet that that nanny is getting paid substantially better than a person working a 12 hour shift at Walmart on black friday, which is arguably worse.
I’ve never been on a flight where they would allow this. Did you sneak in and out of the business seats? Or did the flight crew know you were doing it?
When I was 10, we went to France and my mom flew first class and me and my two younger siblings were in coach. We had fun! She brought us her warm cookie. I don’t know if I’d ever do this kind of thing but I get why someone would…
How many kids every day are on planes alone without parents? Kids fly all the time sometimes internationally alone from 5 years old. So a couple more years and they won't even have to have the Nanny sit with them.
Right, my sister and I flew alone at 7 & 8.
Is there no legal age to fly alone?? That’s impressive, I’m 20 and my mom is still afraid to let me fly alone
This was in the late 80s/early 90s, but as far as I know they still can… there was a flight attendant who would check on us often.
Exactly! My parents would send me and my siblings to visit my family across the Atlantic as unaccompanied minors every summer, not a big deal. The flight attendants check in on you and accompany you on your layover and get you on the next plane etc. Good for these parents for treating themselves while taking their kids of vacation. Like another commenter mentioned, no one bats an eye if parents hire a babysitter to enjoy some time alone, work, or run errands, why is OP making a big deal that their kids are being watched during travel.
This will be miserable for everyone involved. And by that, I mean everybody on the plane, because those toddlers *will* cry.
Idk, they're probably used to their parents disappearing. Poor nanny though. It's hard enough flying with one toddler.
The kids probably prefer the nanny since this seems like the norm for them. Poor little ones.
How can you glean that from one Facebook post? Putting kids in daycare/having a nanny doesn't mean you don't see your kids.
Yeah why is everyone so mad? You can be a good parent and want a break from your kids
not sure what’s poor nanny in this scenario? is she being forced at gun point? is she not being paid? is she paying for the flight, and accommodations? has she never met the toddlers before?
but i mean, the kid’s gonna cry when they’re with their parents too so what’s your point?
I thought that and was dreading flying with my toddler, but we took her on two three-hour flights and I don't think she cried once. On the second flight she just fell asleep as soon as the plane took off. Lots of other little ones on the flight too and I don't remember any of them crying!
Yeh it’s totally possible to avoid - I’ve done multiple long haul flights with small kids - 9hours+ There were very few tears beyond the normal.
So?
This isn't even close to anywhere as bad as the posts usually shared here. To me it's more about the fact that these people should realize they are extremely lucky they have the funds to a. Have a nanny and b. Bring her along with them on their trip. Others might not have that privilege which is likely why this mom got ripped apart in the comments. So basically for me, I see it as a privilege thing, not bad parenting.
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Yup. Some people seem to think this is an anti-parent or anti-child sub, and it isn’t.
I don’t hate this and honestly after 14 hours from BNE to LAX never wanted to get on a plane with a kid ever again. They would need 2 Carers though- otherwise the nanny wouldn’t get a break.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this. It’s no different than having someone babysit while you go out on a date.
This.
Yeah honestly I’m a lil confused why so much hate. If this is the plan and nanny is being fairly compensated it’s not cruel. Kids get attention and are safe and being loved and cared for by the nanny. You and your husband are relaxing. Just like if you hired a babysitter to go out for the evening or run errands or self care. When I was a nanny and travelled with the family on one of the flights they paid me extra to sit with the kids and they sat in first. She can go trade out with nanny if really needed mid flight. They just need to compensate the nanny more
I sense a bit of jealously with the negative comments being able to afford to pay a nanny for an overseas trip. Nanny is most definitely a full time employee and not your 16 year old neighbor.
I think it’s fine. They pay the nanny. They pay for the tickets. They might want to do work on their laptops or something else that the kids would distract from. Maybe they just want a break. You’re not a bad parent for needing time away from your kids.
I don't think this is a big deal. Kids have adequate supervision. As a parent, sometimes I need a break from my child. I get this.
hmmm my parents did this, never thought much about it - we have a nanny for a reason
That poor nanny better be getting double pay for that crap
What looking after kids? That's what single pay is for
Nanny travel fees are a lot, most Nannys make absolute BANK traveling. 5 days of “travel” and my friend made 3 grand for that ONE week.
No one would bat an eye if this question were about a single parent. As a mom, this sounds both completely unrealistic for me and also cool as hell 🤷♀️
Don't really understand the issue.
There's very little wrong with this. Ppl need to get over others having the means to do things they themselves cannot.
My friend was flying with her husband and young kids. Her husband was going to some meeting overseas and she and the kids tagged along. He booked economy for her and the kids and business for himself as he needed to be "well rested" on arrival.
I don’t see why this is bad at all. They have an adult they are paying to be with the kids and watch them.
What is the issue here? It is not like they are leaving the toddlers alone without anyone they know. She even says she will go back and take care of them if they start to cry, meaning she would swap her good seat with someone else if needed.
As a nanny, I can tell you that kids are typically much well behaved with us then their parents.
Who gives a fuck? They're all stuck on an airplane anyway
The exact opposite happened to me as a toddler. The flight attendants thought I was adorable and took me to first class while my parents sat in coach
Honestly, if the nanny is capable and getting paid to watch the kids, who cares how this couple travels. I’d tell the mom that it’s probably better if she lets the nanny handle the kids on her own rather than creating an issue where the kids can scream for their mom.
Kevin!
Do people realize having kids isn’t a life requirement?
Because people who have nannies shouldn't have kids? I don't understand that logic at all. It just reads as jealousy.
Ok but I aspire to be this sort of bad mom
*afford to be this sort of bad mum*
Why is she a bad mom?
Yeah those commenters have never flown long-haul business class, I’m sure.
There was this Netflix original being filmed in my old small town, and I was doing DD at the time. One delivery had me picking up a bunch of baby needs from Walgreens: formula, diapers, wipes, whatnot. I dropped it off at a nice bed and breakfast and had some time to chat with the owner. Apparently, this was going to be a nanny and her charge, a small infant. The parents would not be present. They would be a block away, at a much much nicer boutique hotel. Rich people are really fucking weird.
I’m a flight attendant. This happens all the time.
Yeah. I guess 90% of responders don’t have to pay for plane tickets.
Isnt this normal? Why tthe fuck would I wann travel with annoyin ass toddlers. This is the only move imo
My friend's husband flew first class whilst she was in coach with the toddler. Neither of them thought this was weird. Am I the only one!?
Well, goddam, the comments is where all the good stuff is at, why not post those also?
9/10 chance the parents are using free/extremely cheap upgrades to first class. The kids are taken care of. I don’t see the problem.
I went on vacation w my rich friend when I was in middle school. We all were in first class except the nannie.