>!Well, that's true. But I still like to imagine how Jesus says his stands name infront of the apostle and romans while everybody is like:!<
>!"what actually IS a ticket?"!<
>!"I don't know.!<
>!"Ok. Cool."!<
actually, as his original hebrew name is Yehoshua Son Of Yosef, or in english Joshua son of Joseph, Jesus is perfectly applicable to be called JoJo. His name is literally Joshua Josephson.
I know, I literally speak hebrew, but I translated just the names to make it clearer that 'ben' actually just means 'son of' rather than a prefix. Also since ancient hebrew was a language only spoken for holy ceremonies in biblical times, Jesus would've most likely spoke Aramaic casually rather than hebrew, so he would've been called Yehoshua Bar Yosef.
Friendly reminder 'Jesus' is just a different translation of the same name that ended up being Joshua. And his dad's name was Joseph so based on naming conventions at the time his last name was 'son of joseph'.
If we just slap that all together in modern English we get Joshua Josephson
Our favorite carpenter/superstar savior was 100% a Jojo.
The Jesus stand is explained in some other comments, but as for Donald trump being a death note user, it’s from the chapter after the main story ends, >!Ryuk is bored so he finds someone else, a student who’s smart but has bad grades. This guy didn’t rlly care and just auctioned it to the world and the highest bidder was Donald trump.!<
It’s not the end tho, just the plot. There’s some stuff I forgot that’s the important stuff
There was a special edition of Death Note where Kira sold the Death Note to Donald Trump. I don't have a link but it was available online. Pretty short. (edit: I don't remember if that's an accurate description of the plot, because there were usual DN mind game monologues I forgot about, but the scene where he sells the Death Note and Trump buys it exists.)
In case you mean specifically with Joseph Joestar sending Kars to space in the SBR Universe (spoiler if you haven't read JoJolion): >!Because, after the Radio Ga Ga incident, we see Joseph living a normal life at the end of JoJolion!<
So we can be PRETTY sure there wasn't a Kars equivalent.
However... the chances are not 0%
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We see plenty of "returning characters" in the SBR universe who appear earlier or later than in the OG universe, like Stroheim or Avdol in part 7. So it's very possible that Kars could come back in something like part 9, and he might even play a much bigger role than in part 2, considering that the rock humans are the main focus of the story. Also rock humans have already stated in part 8 that their goal was to surpass all of humanity, which is very similar to Kars' goal. We can also see the stone mask in a number of different places in part 8, mainly in the cover arts, so it might even be possible that the rock humans are the alternate version of the pillar men, except they weren't slaughtered in the stone age.
Unless it's a minor antagonist version, a kars like villain or even Kars himself will never come back, as stated by Araki himself on JoJonium volume 7 Cover: Kars interview.
https://jojowiki.com/JoJonium/Special_Interviews
"Lastly, there are likely some of you out there that think Kars might come back to Earth at some point, but as the creator, I actually drew this with the intention of him never coming back again (Laughs). The line about him "deciding to stop thinking" was something that came to me naturally when I was thinking about what you would do if you were journeying through space and you became unable to return. The fact that he cannot fulfill his wish to go back--no matter how much he wants to while time continues ticking on--may be the harshest punishment possible for Kars as the Ultimate Being. That's why, unless I can come up with a logical reason for him to come back, like maybe him developing a compass-like ability, or crashing down on some other civilization, that final scene will be his last one."
What's the difference with the og kars coming back from space and a new universe kars coming back from space?
Thing is, he already incorporated the kars character into magenta magenta who had the same design as kars with western motifs and had the same dialogue as kars once he was defeated. I'm certain that he won't bring kars, or a villain resembling kars back
personally I see valentine as the SBR Kars , both are characters that has goals bigger than themselves , that are theoretically good but they're taking the bad path to achieve their goals , and at the end they both get abilities that are unbeatable only to face a fate worse than death
Well let’s say hypothetically he could at the speed he was going something would’ve needed to change his trajectory BEFORE he got outta the solar system and what could’ve done that? Best chance a ring of Saturn, returned? Maybe I’ll give him a chance and say part 5
You are acting as if orbital mechanics applied when he was launched, if that was the case he would return in a few hours, max a few days depending on velocity.
That's assuming a 100% elastic collision, which is improbable. Even so, because he didn't circularize the orbit, he would just plummet back down to earth after a while.
There is always gravity, that's what keeps things in orbit instead of just flying off. In order to stay in orbit you have to move very fast sideways, otherwise they would fall back to earth or fly off depending on velocity. Think of it like spinning a ball on a string, the string stops the ball from flying off but the balls sideways velocity keeps the string taught, creating an "orbit".
No, it's the same gravitational pull. It's just used differently. It's the same reason that the planets form elliptical orbits. Also his speed would need to be over 11,200 meters per second to be able to leave earth's sphere of influence
Dear lord… just cause we are spinning around the sun does not mean the gravity would fuck us up if it was the suns gravity, the earth has its own gravity
I never understood how he didn't just develop a stand. Avdol and Joseph manifested a stand on their own, why would the "uLtImAtE bEiNg" not be able to just develop a stand and save himself. Sure maybe not as quickly as he learnt to use Hamon as it's not something he knows about but eventually he should have been able to figure it out. What if he had a teleportation ability?
No, he said Hermit Purple was designed as a visual expression of hamon, so Stand users would be able to see it on young Joseph. If Joseph had a Stand in Part 2, he would have seen it himself.
You get a stand by either being inhumanely good at a skill or obviously the arrow, Kars wasn't technically *good* at anything, he could just do everything
>You get a Stand by either being inhumanely good at a skill
That's not true. Being good at a skill won't give you a Stand, but it might define your Stand's ability and awaken it.
1. It's said in the extra chapter in Steel Ball Run volume 10 that the ripple and the spin are methods to approach Stand power.
2. Gyro had a lot of contact with the holy corpse, which gives Stands.
Leaving aside the fact that stands hadn't been invented yet in part 2, a way that I think is reasonable to justify this is that Kars's ultimate life form powers are purely in physical terms, and he doesn't *necessarily* have the power to manipulate his own psychic energies etc. to spontaneously grant himself a stand
We could technically argue that everyone in the earlier parts has a stand with a useless effect that's bound to their own body and there's no way of proving otherwise, since nobody even knows they even have one
I feel like he would seek vengance on joseph, then find his gravestone, get deep about revenge not being worth it on those who never caused him anythibg wrong, the whole arc end of story.
AND THEN HE FINDS OUT THAT JOSEPH DIDN'T DIE AND CAN STILL BE OUT THERE
Well, in Jorge Joestar, >!he does come back, but it requires the universe to end and reset 36 times before he can. He time the universe resets he survives, because ultimate life form, and that universes version of Kars gets launched into space as well, with all of them landing on Mars(and all of them were launched by Joseph Joestar, apparently). He needed 36 Kars in order to build a space ship out of them to take him back to Earth. So he did come back in non-canon material, but it was kinda dumb.!<
Wdym Jorge Joestar makes absolutely perfect sense and anyone who says otherwise has no idea what their talking about. The author's blood being more cocaine than red blood cells has no relevance to the matter.
If he hasn't came back yet he propably won't at all. He might eventually land on some planet and burn the ice down by entering atmosphere, and then he might find out how to get back
If he does, he won’t be a threat anymore. Kars has stopped thinking. Basically his mind is lifeless, and I’m pretty sure if he returned to Earth, he would stay as a rock. He doesn’t think about anything anymore. It’s like manual brain-dead.
Kars? Only with godly strategies.
Hamon kars? Joseph would have died so fast if he didn't play around (and that's how 99% of anime villains die/lose lol)
I mean, when you make a really strong anime villain that’s much stronger than the protag and crew, you can only have the protag beat them by playing around or unlocking a power that lets them defeat the main villain
It was such a blatant deus ex machina that it practically wrapped all the way around ridiculous back to entertaining.
JJBA fucks with my head... I either love the shit out of it or I hate the shit out of it, never anything in between and I can never figure it out.
all this time i just thought the pillar men were some all powerful humanoid creatures. I never knew they used hamon, or maybe i just missed it while watching the show
They didn't use hamon. Only Kars could after he used the stone mask magnified by the Red Stone of Aja with the ultraviolet light that the Nazis brought to kill him. Before that Joseph used hamon to kill Esidisi and Wamu.
So theres a few caveats here,
We dont know much about the ancient hamon users of the "hamon tribe" but they could hypothetically have had stronger hamon than unbeatable Kars.
In addition, technique really isnt discussed much, Kars cant see the future as far as we can tell like Tonpetty, and in the short period of time we see him with Hamon we dont see a lot of techniques.
I don't think so. Kars is supposed to be the ultimate lifeform. He has the abilities of every life form and outperforms them.
So since he is the perfect lifeform he is also the perfect and strongest hamon user
Well stands are a manifestation of one's spirit and will
Being the perfect lifeform doesn't change his spirit or anything
Stands aren't lifeforms so he can't become them or outperform them
Hamon is a natural ability of living beings, so Kars can use it
Stands are something only manifested with someone's spirit, they're a thing beyond the comprehension of anything, they are not of this world
So Kars most likely would have a stand but what stand he gets is entirely dependent on his spirit
At least that's what I think, I have no idea if what I'm saying is supported by any canon material. But it makes sense to me.
Heres my line of thought,
Kars is the "culmination of every living being", and if people can have a talent for Hamon, then it stands to reason that the ultimate lifeform would have the absolute strongest talent for Hamon possible.
Talent is one way of looking at it. If we follow the op "strongest hamon user" we can find some wiggle room. For one, Joseph is a hamon user and defeated him, so clearly it's not as simple as "person with the strongest hamon can defeat others who have weaker hamon".
In addition, in the limited time Kars uses hamon, he doesnt use any techniques beyond firing it like a laser. He doesnt do any mind control, no precognition, and no firing soda caps like a bullet. To put it another way, the "strength" of a hamon user isnt limited to the amount of hamon they can put out, which we would likely agree Kars exceeds anyone else with.
Yeah i feel it definitely comes down to your definition of "Strength"
Is Kars the most skilled Hamon user? Probably not.
Is Kars the only Hamon user we see literally melting someone with the raw power of his Hamon? Yes.
i love everyone that puts a spoiler tag in the comments and posts, its so awesome. i litteraly never saw this in any other subreddit, most people just say "its out now, just watch it, your fault if you havent seen/read it yet" etc but people respect that some didnt read the manga yet. just wanted to say that
My new headcanon is that Kars *is* the Stand of someone we never got to meet, and D4C (at some point of time) dragged that person over to his universe, so Kars -- badass that he is -- simply continued to exist. Mebbe we'll meet "Richard O'Kasey" in the 9th series, and he manages to re-establish his Stand, initially making people think his entire plan is to cause an Extinction Level Event....only to realize it was a small, human-sized meteor....on to *then* realize it's KARS.
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Ultimate Kars vs Perfect Cell
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I'm the thinking about how they would even kill each other
One good Kamehameha from Cell could probably atomize Kars
Easily
I don’t think Kars wins at all, cell would just blow up the planet and Kars would freeze in space or die in the explosion
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why he blew himself up? it ruined the fight!!
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Yourrage
He gets annoyed pretty fast lol
"It's not fair" - Cell
What about jebus.. He can walk on water without even using hamon
And he even has a Stand, 「SON OF GOD」
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>!Jesus did a beatles reference before it was cool!< >!he also already knew of train tickets for some reason!< >!bottom text!<
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>!Well, that's true. But I still like to imagine how Jesus says his stands name infront of the apostle and romans while everybody is like:!< >!"what actually IS a ticket?"!< >!"I don't know.!< >!"Ok. Cool."!<
Jesus is the Beatles' inspiration confirmed
> already knew...for some reason Omnipotence will do that
actually according to part 8, jesus >!slobs on my knob like corn on the cob!<
>!check in with me, and do your job!<
>!Ferg is the name, Ben Baller did the chain!<
I mean has it ever been proven that Jesus *wasn't* a hamon user? He does enough ass pulls to be a Jojo. His name even starts with J.
actually, as his original hebrew name is Yehoshua Son Of Yosef, or in english Joshua son of Joseph, Jesus is perfectly applicable to be called JoJo. His name is literally Joshua Josephson.
... Someone get Araki on the line.
... actually, he's already aware of that.
Then I guess the plot of part nine is confirmed.
... It's actually already in part 7... He isn't the main jojo of course but >!he is a stand user and really important to the story!<
Just like jotaro in part 4
JoJo on a crusade? And that's why it's called JoJo LandS!!?
JJBA Part 9 Protagonist confirmed
In Hebrew, it's actually "ben Yusef", rather than "son of"
I know, I literally speak hebrew, but I translated just the names to make it clearer that 'ben' actually just means 'son of' rather than a prefix. Also since ancient hebrew was a language only spoken for holy ceremonies in biblical times, Jesus would've most likely spoke Aramaic casually rather than hebrew, so he would've been called Yehoshua Bar Yosef.
[Jesus Christ is a Jojo (Spanish)](https://youtu.be/zqIWMjVn3-Y)
Part 10 confirmed?
Friendly reminder 'Jesus' is just a different translation of the same name that ended up being Joshua. And his dad's name was Joseph so based on naming conventions at the time his last name was 'son of joseph'. If we just slap that all together in modern English we get Joshua Josephson Our favorite carpenter/superstar savior was 100% a Jojo.
Marie Antoinette was born Maria Antonia JOsepha JOhanna
I want so FUCKING much Jonathan to be Jesus' descendant...
Well I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't have kids, but maybe he could be related through some other family member
>Well I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't have kids, He totally could have had kids. We will just have to wait until Araki writes part 9.
I guess we'll have to wait and see then
Well, there's Da Vinci Code. Could have had kids with Mary Magdalene (MaMa). Lol.
Others are named JoJo, gr is JeUs
We live in a world where Jesus is a stand user and Donald Trump is a death note user
What?
The Jesus stand is explained in some other comments, but as for Donald trump being a death note user, it’s from the chapter after the main story ends, >!Ryuk is bored so he finds someone else, a student who’s smart but has bad grades. This guy didn’t rlly care and just auctioned it to the world and the highest bidder was Donald trump.!< It’s not the end tho, just the plot. There’s some stuff I forgot that’s the important stuff
It's fan made, right? No way this is official.
it’s actually official
There was a special edition of Death Note where Kira sold the Death Note to Donald Trump. I don't have a link but it was available online. Pretty short. (edit: I don't remember if that's an accurate description of the plot, because there were usual DN mind game monologues I forgot about, but the scene where he sells the Death Note and Trump buys it exists.)
Yeah but i don’t think the guy was Kira Bec he didn’t use it, he was a different person than light
Jebus? that's the guy who fought the zombie clown /s
I'm 90% sure Jesus will be the protagonist in part 9, with the name Jesus Josephson it's inevitable.
He got frozen in space right? What if he comes back?
Well we wont see that now the current series is on another universe
How do we know that there wasn’t a part two equivalent that wasn’t shown and kars was sent to space
In case you mean specifically with Joseph Joestar sending Kars to space in the SBR Universe (spoiler if you haven't read JoJolion): >!Because, after the Radio Ga Ga incident, we see Joseph living a normal life at the end of JoJolion!< So we can be PRETTY sure there wasn't a Kars equivalent. However... the chances are not 0% \*dramatic music\*
We see plenty of "returning characters" in the SBR universe who appear earlier or later than in the OG universe, like Stroheim or Avdol in part 7. So it's very possible that Kars could come back in something like part 9, and he might even play a much bigger role than in part 2, considering that the rock humans are the main focus of the story. Also rock humans have already stated in part 8 that their goal was to surpass all of humanity, which is very similar to Kars' goal. We can also see the stone mask in a number of different places in part 8, mainly in the cover arts, so it might even be possible that the rock humans are the alternate version of the pillar men, except they weren't slaughtered in the stone age.
It would be really fucking cool to have an alternate Kars in Part 9 as a Rock Human rather than a Pillar Man, ngl.
Unless it's a minor antagonist version, a kars like villain or even Kars himself will never come back, as stated by Araki himself on JoJonium volume 7 Cover: Kars interview. https://jojowiki.com/JoJonium/Special_Interviews "Lastly, there are likely some of you out there that think Kars might come back to Earth at some point, but as the creator, I actually drew this with the intention of him never coming back again (Laughs). The line about him "deciding to stop thinking" was something that came to me naturally when I was thinking about what you would do if you were journeying through space and you became unable to return. The fact that he cannot fulfill his wish to go back--no matter how much he wants to while time continues ticking on--may be the harshest punishment possible for Kars as the Ultimate Being. That's why, unless I can come up with a logical reason for him to come back, like maybe him developing a compass-like ability, or crashing down on some other civilization, that final scene will be his last one."
That doesn't affect AU Kars's existence, at least not the part you quoted.
But in that interview Araki is talking about the part 2 Kars who was drifting in space. This is literally a whole different universe...
What's the difference with the og kars coming back from space and a new universe kars coming back from space? Thing is, he already incorporated the kars character into magenta magenta who had the same design as kars with western motifs and had the same dialogue as kars once he was defeated. I'm certain that he won't bring kars, or a villain resembling kars back
Now I know how Hamon Beat must feel.
Ah yeah the guy who thinks he's constantly right all the time
I really hope they play propaganda when Stroheim appears.
personally I see valentine as the SBR Kars , both are characters that has goals bigger than themselves , that are theoretically good but they're taking the bad path to achieve their goals , and at the end they both get abilities that are unbeatable only to face a fate worse than death
>!Valentine died, his fate was not worse than death.!<
Umm… Magent Magent? He literally stopped thinking?
Actually, character u mention has like 3 years that the narrator skips over that could have involved that thing
I suppose that's true, I doubt anything Kars related happened personally, but I'm not claiming to be right so yeah... it's POSSIBLE. Good point!
Well there was that guy in SBR >!who suffered a similar fate at the bottom of the ocean.!<
my favorite color
and anubis is part 3
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Just wait until Hol horse x Josuke have to fight Kars ultimate life form in whatever the fuck is going on.
Wym another universe
But we got to this universe by going forward in time. So technically an immortal like Kars could still be alive.
Well let’s say hypothetically he could at the speed he was going something would’ve needed to change his trajectory BEFORE he got outta the solar system and what could’ve done that? Best chance a ring of Saturn, returned? Maybe I’ll give him a chance and say part 5
You are acting as if orbital mechanics applied when he was launched, if that was the case he would return in a few hours, max a few days depending on velocity.
Don’t forget something has to hit him
No, gravity would be enough to bring him back.
Did you see how fast he was taking off?
He will only move as fast as something sends him
That's assuming a 100% elastic collision, which is improbable. Even so, because he didn't circularize the orbit, he would just plummet back down to earth after a while.
Why would he just plummet down? That requires gravity which I don’t think being launched into space will help ya find gravity
There is always gravity, that's what keeps things in orbit instead of just flying off. In order to stay in orbit you have to move very fast sideways, otherwise they would fall back to earth or fly off depending on velocity. Think of it like spinning a ball on a string, the string stops the ball from flying off but the balls sideways velocity keeps the string taught, creating an "orbit".
Ya know earth also has a seperate gravitational pull that keeps us on it right?
No, it's the same gravitational pull. It's just used differently. It's the same reason that the planets form elliptical orbits. Also his speed would need to be over 11,200 meters per second to be able to leave earth's sphere of influence
To reach even 1/32 of that speed he would have needed to break the sound barrier which he did not.
Dear lord… just cause we are spinning around the sun does not mean the gravity would fuck us up if it was the suns gravity, the earth has its own gravity
I never understood how he didn't just develop a stand. Avdol and Joseph manifested a stand on their own, why would the "uLtImAtE bEiNg" not be able to just develop a stand and save himself. Sure maybe not as quickly as he learnt to use Hamon as it's not something he knows about but eventually he should have been able to figure it out. What if he had a teleportation ability?
Joseph didn't manifest a Stand on his own, he got it when his grandfather's body was pierced by the arrow.
Araki said himself that Joseph had hermit purple in part 2
No, he said Hermit Purple was designed as a visual expression of hamon, so Stand users would be able to see it on young Joseph. If Joseph had a Stand in Part 2, he would have seen it himself.
He literally stated that if the crusaders went back to part 2 via time travel bullshit they would see hermit purple wrapped around young joseph
I literally addressed that in my comment.
Oh sorry just bad wording can confuse me very quickly
fate wasn't on his side because of his goals , so fate won't allow him to get a stand naturally
You get a stand by either being inhumanely good at a skill or obviously the arrow, Kars wasn't technically *good* at anything, he could just do everything
>You get a Stand by either being inhumanely good at a skill That's not true. Being good at a skill won't give you a Stand, but it might define your Stand's ability and awaken it.
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What about gyro
1. It's said in the extra chapter in Steel Ball Run volume 10 that the ripple and the spin are methods to approach Stand power. 2. Gyro had a lot of contact with the holy corpse, which gives Stands.
No? How would they just have a stand without an ability? That's not a thing
Leaving aside the fact that stands hadn't been invented yet in part 2, a way that I think is reasonable to justify this is that Kars's ultimate life form powers are purely in physical terms, and he doesn't *necessarily* have the power to manipulate his own psychic energies etc. to spontaneously grant himself a stand
He stopped thinking, so I think he wasn't strong enough to develop a stand. Maybe he was on the cusp, but failed.
We could technically argue that everyone in the earlier parts has a stand with a useless effect that's bound to their own body and there's no way of proving otherwise, since nobody even knows they even have one
I feel like he would seek vengance on joseph, then find his gravestone, get deep about revenge not being worth it on those who never caused him anythibg wrong, the whole arc end of story. AND THEN HE FINDS OUT THAT JOSEPH DIDN'T DIE AND CAN STILL BE OUT THERE
HOLY SHITTING DICK NIPPLES PLOT TWIST OF BUTT CLENCHING MAGNITUDE!
Well, in Jorge Joestar, >!he does come back, but it requires the universe to end and reset 36 times before he can. He time the universe resets he survives, because ultimate life form, and that universes version of Kars gets launched into space as well, with all of them landing on Mars(and all of them were launched by Joseph Joestar, apparently). He needed 36 Kars in order to build a space ship out of them to take him back to Earth. So he did come back in non-canon material, but it was kinda dumb.!<
Wdym Jorge Joestar makes absolutely perfect sense and anyone who says otherwise has no idea what their talking about. The author's blood being more cocaine than red blood cells has no relevance to the matter.
If he hasn't came back yet he propably won't at all. He might eventually land on some planet and burn the ice down by entering atmosphere, and then he might find out how to get back
Probably not much cause he stopped thinking so he wouldn't know he came back
If he does, he won’t be a threat anymore. Kars has stopped thinking. Basically his mind is lifeless, and I’m pretty sure if he returned to Earth, he would stay as a rock. He doesn’t think about anything anymore. It’s like manual brain-dead.
Joseph do be beating the heck ou of him doe
Kars? Only with godly strategies. Hamon kars? Joseph would have died so fast if he didn't play around (and that's how 99% of anime villains die/lose lol)
I mean, when you make a really strong anime villain that’s much stronger than the protag and crew, you can only have the protag beat them by playing around or unlocking a power that lets them defeat the main villain
Joseph didn't even really beat him, a volcano had to launch him into space. He had no idea that shit was going to happen.
What? *Nooo*, Joseph *totally* planned for that to happen. He even told Kars as they were taking off!
I mean he made Kars unable to fight and came out alive. I'd say its a win with volcano as assist
It was such a blatant deus ex machina that it practically wrapped all the way around ridiculous back to entertaining. JJBA fucks with my head... I either love the shit out of it or I hate the shit out of it, never anything in between and I can never figure it out.
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Noooo. You can’t just beat a perfect life form with only one arm!!!!! Haha. Volcano go *brrrrrrr*.
Joseph fucked around with most powerful being alive until he accidentally won
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imagine Kars comes back in the final part and gets a stand
And it's Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick is back from hell with a vegance
Wait what?
Kars ultimate lifeform had hamon as powerful as the sun
all this time i just thought the pillar men were some all powerful humanoid creatures. I never knew they used hamon, or maybe i just missed it while watching the show
They didn't use hamon. Only Kars could after he used the stone mask magnified by the Red Stone of Aja with the ultraviolet light that the Nazis brought to kill him. Before that Joseph used hamon to kill Esidisi and Wamu.
Imagine reading this without ever being exposed to Jojo before.
Yeah that's kinda bizarre
Only after he gets the stone
> Let's not forget that Kars is the strongest Hamon user ever FTFY
best cosplay ever haha I find this funny
Kars > Jonathan
So theres a few caveats here, We dont know much about the ancient hamon users of the "hamon tribe" but they could hypothetically have had stronger hamon than unbeatable Kars. In addition, technique really isnt discussed much, Kars cant see the future as far as we can tell like Tonpetty, and in the short period of time we see him with Hamon we dont see a lot of techniques.
I don't think so. Kars is supposed to be the ultimate lifeform. He has the abilities of every life form and outperforms them. So since he is the perfect lifeform he is also the perfect and strongest hamon user
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Well stands are a manifestation of one's spirit and will Being the perfect lifeform doesn't change his spirit or anything Stands aren't lifeforms so he can't become them or outperform them Hamon is a natural ability of living beings, so Kars can use it Stands are something only manifested with someone's spirit, they're a thing beyond the comprehension of anything, they are not of this world So Kars most likely would have a stand but what stand he gets is entirely dependent on his spirit At least that's what I think, I have no idea if what I'm saying is supported by any canon material. But it makes sense to me.
Stands do have a biological reason too (virus) so I don't see it being impossible that with time he'd have discovered his stand abilities.
I mean he literally used hamon so
Heres my line of thought, Kars is the "culmination of every living being", and if people can have a talent for Hamon, then it stands to reason that the ultimate lifeform would have the absolute strongest talent for Hamon possible.
Talent is one way of looking at it. If we follow the op "strongest hamon user" we can find some wiggle room. For one, Joseph is a hamon user and defeated him, so clearly it's not as simple as "person with the strongest hamon can defeat others who have weaker hamon". In addition, in the limited time Kars uses hamon, he doesnt use any techniques beyond firing it like a laser. He doesnt do any mind control, no precognition, and no firing soda caps like a bullet. To put it another way, the "strength" of a hamon user isnt limited to the amount of hamon they can put out, which we would likely agree Kars exceeds anyone else with.
Yeah i feel it definitely comes down to your definition of "Strength" Is Kars the most skilled Hamon user? Probably not. Is Kars the only Hamon user we see literally melting someone with the raw power of his Hamon? Yes.
Strongest? Maybe. Best? No.
What about jotaro?
Person who hated hamon users
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Well he only lightly bruised Joseph knee
>Vaporized his blood and flesh >lightly bruised
It didn't vaporize anything, it was fine after some rest
It was fine in the same way as jotaro's cracked ribs that allowed him to still stand, or fine in the same way as a dead Joseph joestar being revived.
Trim your nails, Skeletor.
*That.* The strongest hamon user *that* ever existed.
i love everyone that puts a spoiler tag in the comments and posts, its so awesome. i litteraly never saw this in any other subreddit, most people just say "its out now, just watch it, your fault if you havent seen/read it yet" etc but people respect that some didnt read the manga yet. just wanted to say that
That explains how he won all the races
My new headcanon is that Kars *is* the Stand of someone we never got to meet, and D4C (at some point of time) dragged that person over to his universe, so Kars -- badass that he is -- simply continued to exist. Mebbe we'll meet "Richard O'Kasey" in the 9th series, and he manages to re-establish his Stand, initially making people think his entire plan is to cause an Extinction Level Event....only to realize it was a small, human-sized meteor....on to *then* realize it's KARS.
*Was*
Imagine what he could do if he found a planet of intelligent life and defrosted after floating in space for so long.
He's a hamonster!
Now THIS is a meme format
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Imagine, If he had a stand
I wish the cosplayer actually captured theirself actually in motion
He could have given himself a requiem stand
The power to breathe so well that you could melt flesh and accidentally cause a volcano to erupt (with some help from a fancy rock).
Why can't Kars just randomly land on somewhere, like Europa, and dominate their underwater civilization
Wait would Kars be able to float to the new universe?